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MetaPhysical:
The context of my complaint was understood by the OP. He kept the material but changed topic and deleted kids. In my response I modified my objection and thanked him.

You are the one in the wilderness on the issue.

You are yet to respond to my challenge to you anyway. Give me your moral response in the analogy I gave.

Lol the op responded and agreed with me. I'll let the OP answer who's right about motives.

There's no moral delima because there's nothing immoral about asking question in the title. The context shows different anyway. Its like saying an author is racist becsuse title says "Are blacks inferior because of lower IQ scores?". The moral position is made in the article that what people base the argument on.

MetaPhysical:
So why did OP correct the topic and took "kids" out? Its because he understood my point and the objection. It would not pass a "moral test", regardless of the semantics you want it to infer.

No it because you threaten to tell on him. OP confirm or deny if you please. The original authors title still in link maybe you should contact editor if online paper aswell. Before analyzing morals one must first understand what's said by reading. Thats why every else understood what's being said. Notice it's a question to the reader.

"NOW THAT  MARIJUANA IS GETTING ACCEPTED, DO WE ALLOW OUR KIDS TO SMOKE?"

MetaPhysical:
I gave definition of kid in its accepted usage to mean young child.

In many countries it is legal to have strip joints where adult female entertain and even include university students who use the income as means to finance education.

How would it sound if you see a topic calling for "kids" to be introduced to strip joints so they can help supplement their parents' income....or perharps begin early to save for college?

Give me your moral response.

You're taking the definition literally when you know the context shows it differently. If you want continue that you're choice.

Its depends on what's in the article thst determines when I feel about topic. The title can be click bait or deceptive.

AmuDimpka:
He is one of the people the people the writer spoke about...the religious and the conservative ones

So that's why I didn't bother responding to him

Yeah he just over reacted to headline. I do wonder if marijuana legalization has any broad support. I would like a polling agency like NOI polls to conduct a survey but they're more interested in dry topics nobody would care to repost anywhere.

MetaPhysical:
Mods please delete this thread immediately. This is not free speech, this is exploitation of minors.



This is not an exhaustive list...OPs post is illegal because his targets are "kids".

See below for definition of kid.

Dont get knickers in a twist. The context shows the authour is using kid to mean offspring or young person. You're your parents kid even though you're not a minor. The author is not advocating anyone break the law. The article is about changing marijuana laws. None of the countries mentioned have legal ages below 18.

grandstar:
The 10,000 deaths since 2013 is an blatant exaggeration. I doubt the number is up to 3,000 assuming 2 prisoners loose their lives daily which may be a very genrous figure. It is probably no more than 1 or 2 a week dying.

Allocations to prisoners need to be increased from ythe present pitiful sums. If there's no increase, there should be a means for the prisons to earn money from prison labour which can then be used to feed the prisoners. They need not die.

Most of these guys are awaiting trial inmates. If they simply released them on bail there would be more money to go around. The second option is giving most of these guys time served if they're found guilty. After both measures are taking them we look into other options like increasing the budget.

Its always better to cut waste before throwing cash at a problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhvwnTwMsv8

The Nigerian Army Theatre Command of Operation Lafiya Dole (OPLD) has urged Nigerians operating around the North East region of the country to carry valid identifications.

Thia was as it launched “Operation Positive Identification” against the fleeing Boko Haram and ISWAP terrorists in the North East.

The Deputy Director, Army Public Relation, OPLD, Col. Ado Isa, disclosed this in a statement on Sunday.

He added that the public should carry valid identification when moving or passing through Adamawa, Borno and Yobe states.

Isa said the operation was aimed at searching for and arresting all suspected terrorists that currently roam some parts of the North East.

This, according to him, has become necessary following credible information that some of the fleeing criminals are hibernating in some towns and villages of Borno and Yobe States in particular and North East in general.

Army spokesperson disclosed that the troops had been instructed to strictly check valid means of identification of person before allowing them passage.

He advised people to always carry National Identification Card, Voters Registration Card, Drivers’ License and International Passports, or other valid official identification.

“We therefore once again enjoin all to fully cooperate with troops and security agencies in carrying out this exercise.

“The Theatre Command also wish to state that anyone not positively identified will attract further scrutiny and comprehensive investigation to determine his or her activities with the insurgents or otherwise.

“The general public is please requested to bear with this measure as it is in their best interest and our national security, as well as efforts to end the madness called insurgency as perpetrated by the erstwhile Boko Haram/ISWAP fighters,” he added.

Source: https://leadership.ng/2019/09/22/carry-valid-identification-in-north-east-to-avoid-arrest-army-says/

Nigeria Minister of Labour and Productivity, Dr Chris Ngige, has warned that Nigeria will be consumed soon, if unemployment in the country is not addressed urgently,

What's the current unemployment rate and why did NBS stop tracking it right before the 2019 election? There hasn't had an update since Q3 2018. The rate steadily rising each quarter shows your economic policies are failing. You should also worry about enforcing minimum wage. Why you clowns pass laws you have no intention of enforcing is beyond me.

Bump

Lol what sort of father giving out their daughter to broke dudes. I know they're adults but you should always give your kid fair warning. It's interesting to see more emirs are agreeing with Sanusi.

“Civil servants on a salary of N15,000 a month marry more than one wife and end up raising families they cannot catter for.

If you're living on minimum wage you shouldn't be thinking about family. Minimum wage is for entry level people in workforce. The 18 year old man who just graduated highschool should even be looking for better pay.

That's pathetic, when will people start doing their jobs.

Do you guys feel the NBS will release the crime states or will they stop tracking it like they did unemployment stats?

You can see the situation in North-west, banditry has reduced tremendously. Kidnapping also has gone down and we have statistics to back it.

It's easy to skew stats assuming they exist. If you're chosing not to prosecute bandits for kidnapping or illegal gun charges why wouldn't the crime rate drop?

“We saw that there is a tremendous decrease in the kidnapping, banditry, armed robbery and even acts of cultism.”

Where are the stats that back up any of these claims. The author didnt stat cite one in the entire article. If you're going say crime went down you would naturally mention per capita numbers. Even when asked directly Adamu rambles instead of just citing stats and percentages.

The last crime stat was released was for 2017. In South Africa they release the crime rate every year. Why's Nigeria just saying take our word for it.

Violent crimes and security breaches recorded across Nigeria have “tremendously” reduced in the last quarter of the year, the Inspector-General of Police, Mohammed Adamu, has said.

He said this was as a result of “peace initiatives and the dialogues initiated through the federal government’s security summits”.

Mr Adamu said the reductions are evident when security mishaps recorded in previous quarters are compared with the current situation.

“We just finished a security meeting and we have noticed within this quarter that the security situation in the country is stable,” the police boss said. “We saw that there is a tremendous decrease in the kidnapping, banditry, armed robbery and even acts of cultism.”

The official spoke in an interview with State House correspondents on Thursday after meeting with President Muhammadu Buhari.

He said the government’s amnesty programme for bandits was helpful in stemming insecurity.

Peace initiatives

The Katsina State Government last week released nine bandits from the custody of security agencies in exchange for five persons abducted by the bandits.

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Though Mr Adamu said the force “has statistics to back its claim of reduced violent crimes across the country”, no fewer than 36 persons were killed and nine others kidnapped in reported violent crimes across Nigeria last week, a PREMIUM TIMES security analysis showed.

The IGP also detailed what the force is doing to stem the tide of insecurity across the country during the short interview with reporters.

Excerpts:

Q: What have you done differently in security in the last quarter?

Adamu: What we have done apart from the peace initiative and the dialogues is that we came up with organisation of security summit, if you remember we went to the Northwestern zone of this country, we sat down with the traditional rulers and all the governors and the leadership of Miyetti Allah and they identified some of the challenges that are fueling kidnapping and banditry.

Those challenges were looked into to the extent that the bandits and kidnappers have decided to release their captives and surrendered their arms, that has contributed and also those that have refused to accept the peace initiative.

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We have been able to identify their camps especially Abuja-Kaduna road and along Birnin Gwari Niger axis and we went to the camps of these kidnappers and we dislodged some of the camps.

In fact, in the security briefing we gave specific numbers of the camps that we have destroyed and the casualties the bandits recorded as a result of that. So that has also made them surrender and some of them relocated and we are following those that have relocated to know the new location and also engage them.

You can see the situation in North-west, banditry has reduced tremendously. Kidnapping also has gone down and we have statistics to back it. And having noticed that, we have been charged by Mr President to do more.

He wants to see a mere zero crime society in the whole of the country. So we have been charged to do more than what we are doing now in fact, in the whole of the country.

Recently, there have been a series of peace initiatives especially the Tiv/Jukun crisis, the federal government came up with initiatives by bringing the leadership of the two states and their traditional rulers and we have been asked to support that initiative and see to it that dialogue succeeds and that there is peace between the Jukun and Tivs.

We have also been charged to increase security along the pipelines to make sure that crude oil theft is stopped completely because the loss that the country is facing in that area is not tolerated. So we have been charged to increase our security activities in that direction to make sure that crude oil theft is stopped completely.

Q: What is the statistics of crime in first, second and third quarters?

Adamu: When we are talking about peace initiatives, there are a lot of things that we take into consideration, you give out something to get something. And this peace initiative did not start with the bandits in the Northwestern part of this country with the bandits. If you remember some years back, we were having issues in the Niger Delta and those issues could not be solved until amnesty and peace initiative came up and what we had in Niger Delta has gone.

So, I think part of the strategy to deal with challenges in terms of either security or war, there is peaceful negotiation too. So it is not that you are a bandit and on the course of the banditry, you committed crime. You must be punished when there is peace initiative going on. If you refused to accept the peace initiative, of course, you have to face the consequences.

Currently, we have about 20 different points we monitor on a daily basis through CCTV cameras within FCT and we are expanding it to cover the remaining areas. So one of the strategies to stop all this type of crime whether it is car theft or burglary or anything that has to do with theft in the city is the use of CCTV and constant patrol for prevention.

Q: Are you proposing the federal government’s amnesty programmes for the bandits?

Adamu: It is not like comparison per se but giving an example of how negotiation and dialogue can bring peace. Even in terms of war, you go into dialogue so as to achieve certain level of peace. So if dialogue can bring peace, why do you have to use force, that is what I am just trying to say.

Source: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/353390-violent-crimes-reduce-across-nigeria-igp-adamu.html

hysteriabox:
It beats me o bruh.
I insist that the HOR lost their clout sometime in 2013-2015. For some reason, no one takes them seriously. Their summons almost always ends up on deaf ears

Its not a mystery why they dont respect their request. They're all bark no bite. They just needto be in good graces of the president.

This has angered the speaker of the house, Femi Gbajabiamila, who condemned the action saying he will take the issue to President Muhammadu Buhari.

Lol does Buhari care? If you guys want them to show up pass a law. NASS should also consider passing aconstitutional amendment to impeach executive appointees. Just copy the united states and you'll have power to impeach anyone if you have 2/3 majority.

Sunofgod:
That's what the Western media tell ya!

What does you're African media have to say? IMB catalogs pirate attacks reports same thing. Most pirate attacks fall in catagories I mentioned. The economist did mention a few fishing related crimes but they're not the majority.

Sunofgod:
We get navy?

We no even get batter pirates like Somalia to deal with foreign vessels stealing from our waters!

Foreigners will steal our fish only to export if back to us to buy!

The pirates aren't after fish. They kidnap crew members, rob cargo ships and oil tankers. The navy mostly goes after smugglers going by news reports. I don't know what NIMASA does but give press statements.

Lol CBN said Nigeria imports 1.2 billion dollars worth of fish yearly. If the navy was doing their job the problem would be cut in half.

He said the apex bank’s current initiative was to engage the coastal state governors to develop the blue economy to address the deficit of 1.9metric tons as well as eradicate the huge import bill for fish.

You guys can literally cut the inport bill in half if you eliminate illegal fishing. If Nigerian bring the fish everyone wins. The next step is to figure out while fish farmers arent productive. I read its the feed quality among other things.

It never ceases to amaze me how people worry about ex politicians like Ambode who are financially secure. He could always find work in private sector or start a business. Seriously his pension benefits afford him the best luxuries.

I dont have information on it. Im assuming the case still being looked into. I dont remember anyone being charged to court. You can always call police command for comments.

Why are you crying? Just give away the items you do t need anyones permission. Get a venue hand them out.

I am a Fulani man from my maternal side, we will just have to take this as our own heritage, something that is African. So we cannot just close our borders and say the Fulani man is just a Nigerian.

“They are all Nigerians because their identity, their citizenship is Nigerian even though they have relatives from all over the world. So, presumably they are Nigerians because they move all over and have relations all over.

Dude stop your Fulani ideology doesn't supersede Nigerian law. If they're Nigeria they should prove it. Nigerian law states a Nigerian is someone who parents or grandparents are Nigerians. If they can prove that no problem.

Davash222:
My brother, I’ve been arrested by Nigeria Police for minding my business. They said, since I’m the chief spectator of the fight scene that I should follow them to the Station to give an exact account of what actually happened.
Long story short, I bailed myself with 10K.

Im sorry to hear that. I've bad experiences with Nigerians cops nothing that bad though.

Davash222:
Have you been to Nigeria before

Yes, Ive also never been arrested reporting crime and neither has anyone I know. Again if you're crippling fear you're under no obligation to act. Have you been arrested for reporting crime before?

Davash222:
Same police will arrest you as ‘eye witness’ to the case.

The police wont arrest you for witnessing a crime because thats stupid. All they do is take a statement assuming they arrive on scene in a reasonable amount of time. If you're scared you can hide in your room.