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Is it not the same imported fuel he has been using to run his business operations which started in 1978 ?

He starts refining fuel in 2024 and suddenly imported fuel becomes “substandard “ .🤦‍♂️

Does Dangote and his people even think some of these things through before pushing out to the media ? 🤷‍♂️

mushroomFarm:
That man with his monopolistic business tactics has been the problem of Nigeria for ages. Wind don dey blow now, e be like say his yansh go open.

Nigeria wey don dey import fuel since independence but na now this one dey talk about substandard product.

Leave him, let him keep dribbling himself and trying to manipulate people emotionally . Look at him talking about US and European countries protecting domestic market ; as if those domestic producers set out to milk their own people dry .

Now that he has revealed the price did he die ?

The way he was protecting the selling price of his PMS , one would’ve thought his whole life depended on it . 😏

Now he’s claiming NMDPRA does not have laboratory to detect substandard products imported into the country . If those ones come out to refute his claim tomorrow , he will issue another press release .

Can this man just allow those that want to import do so and let him that wants to produce locally do so ? Why must the importers die for him to live ? 🤷‍♂️.

You get crude in your back yard and don’t have to expend transport cost , yet u are benchmarking ur PMS against international price and selling at almost a thousand naira per liter . Yet u want FG to stop importers from bringing in products which they sell almost at the same price as urs .

This Alhaji never ready .

After drimbling like Messi + Maradona + Okocha regen, Dangote finally reveals his selling price .

He sells 960 per liter into vessels and N990 into trucks.

He’s also accusing an international trading company of hiring a depot close to his refinery with the aim of blending substandard products to compete with his own “ standard products “.

In summary of the latest press release , he’s asking for the FG to epp him with monopoly

Altern8tor:
Hope this will not be a goalless draw

From ur mouth to the ears of the gods

Bruno!

Penarity!

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Speech renovators don score own goal. Even the FG (AGF) admitted they are minors among them.

Na wetin Dey funny me pass be that . 😂

The person with power to drop the charges has admitted they are minors and will ensure those minors are left off the hook ( as it should be ) . I don’t know why they are still trying to renovate the speech .

Also, the defence counsel for all 119 defendants, Marshall Abubakar, in a telephone conversation with our correspondent, confirmed that steps were being taken to drop the charges against the children this week, especially since the AGF had requested transfer of the case file.

“The government has been calling; the AGF has called. I think, most likely, by next week (this week) we will get the charges thrown out,” Abubakar said.

He also confirmed that the minors among the 119 remanded protesters were in the custody of the SARS IRT, adding that they were kept in a large hall as the purported Borstal system for juvenile detention was non-existent.

“The children were taken to IRT SARS. There is a big hall there where they are kept because there is actually no Borstal Centre.”

Matter wey AGF take so serious , una Dey here do do whataboutism they talk about imaginary national ID cards 😂.


Maybe when the charges are dropped una go ask AGF to show una national ID card Abi voters card that confirm them to be minor .

Bulaba!

raumdeuter:
That will be your own interpretation, Govt will never claim they are minors when the same govt have identified them as adults

Nobody expects accountability from the government and their apologists before na . 🤷‍♂️

All that matters is they listened to voice of reason and folded when it matters most .

raumdeuter:
FG can drop charges for anything.
They cannot drop charges because they are minors since the govt document showed they are adults

FG claiming they are minors will be an own goal scored

They will rather claim they dropped charges because of health issues(we have already seen some fainting) and wrong allegations being filed against them

When they dropped Binance guy charges I'm sure they will tie it to health or something that wouldn't be an own goal on govt

All these mental gymnastics na for ur pocket o.

When the story will be written in the future , it will be said that the federal government docked minors with adults following the EndBadGovernance protests, the charges against the minors were dropped following public outcry and that’s that.

You may not like it that way , but it is what it is.

GloriousGbola:
It is whatever id on them that was used to classify them. Is that not how arrests work?

I take this to mean that u didn’t see any document that suggested they were adults ;but u concluded they were adults because u assumed they are almajiri whom Buhari and the likes have been using to rig in the north right ?

Good.

raumdeuter:
So you know instances of govt dropping charges against adults? This is what makes me sleep at night. The truth

This would’ve made sense except for the fact that FG will drop charges against the minors while they will proceed with prosecution of the adults .

Which will only lead us to the conclusion that government and its agencies goofed docking obvious minors with adults . They only had to save face following the public outrage . Simlple

Any other thing na megefegede

GloriousGbola:
The position of the law is also the issue. These are obvious kids, but they somehow have government ID saying they are adults. That is the point of government Id.an infallible document that identifies you.

The question is what happens next? Will their ids be revoked? Will the government embark on voter Id regularization?

I want to ask you a question ; Have u seen the IDs of those 37 minors docked ? The IDs you saw did it show you their ages above 18?

If the answer to these questions is yes, please share me link to those IDs

GloriousGbola:
This issue is going to be revisited multiple times going forward. Because this is the first time children have been arrested up north. Actually maybe not. I am fairly sure we will find the same has happened during multiple shitte clashes with security agencies.

If this embarrassment means that this is the last time children will be used as political pawns by all parties involved, great. But I think we both know that will not be the case.

I don tell u position of the law , u can decide that we with it or not.

In the long run , the FG will do what it believes is right before the law. Shebi na the same FG went on wild goose chase prosecuting finance executives wasting tax payers money only to drop charges recently .

No be today dem Dey fold when it’s glaring they have messed up .

raumdeuter:
The blind man who saw them voting and their leaders/parents claimed they are adults when many people think they look like minors

It seemed to us that they were minors during elections but their parents claimed they were adults with evidence of a proper original govt ID.

It's that same ID that is now being used to get their age regardless of what your eyes tell you.

Charges are dropped against adults all the time in court

Lmao 🤣

Whatever makes u sleep well at night

Olowunl01:
Oh wow same Almajiri kids APC used to kick out Goodluck Jonathan.
These are kids, it's a shame that it ever got to court, the prosecution should be ashamed of themselves.
So if I get government issued ID, I could lay claim to Dayo's multi billion naira assets in Nigeria, let me contacts my Oluwole cousins
That these kids have govt issued ID stating they are adults doesn't make them adult, if government doesn't want to open the can of worms of how they get those documents then they should just set them free.

The people making such arguments don’t even know how ridiculous it sounds .

I’m patiently waiting for the FG through the office of AGF to drop charges against those kids , I will now see next ridiculous line of argument/justification that will be dished out of the APC WhatsApp group

raumdeuter:
There are issues with keeping them for 90 plus days without trial and alleged starvation, and this has nothing to do with the age claims. The court filing and govt issued ID still recognize them as adults until it's proven to be a fake ID

Which age claim are u talking about here ? Even a blind man can see they are minors . Or are u saying they arrested them with valid ID cards on them claiming a different age ?

Because I’m not just understanding how u people just try to muddling things up over glaring issues .

Government recognized them as adult and AGF wants charges to be dropped against them ? 😂😂😂

GloriousGbola:
You realize that this parallels some of the issues we have discussed on this thread in Isreal /Palestine?

Where hamas/Hezbollah do not subscribe to rules of engagement but trots out these same rules to accuse isreal of genocide and human rights abuses? Where isreal is then called out for human rights abuses that their enemies do not actually believe in?

It is child abuse to prosecute children for adult crimes, but it is not child abuse to use children in electoral fraud? It is not child abuse to abandon children to beg on the streets? It is not child abuse to use illiterate children in demonstrations? So the red line is prosecuting children for treason but everything else up to that point has everyone looking the other way?

How do u always come up with these conclusions ? 🤦‍♂️

If minors are used for election fraud, it is the job of government and its agencies to fish out all adults involved in that fraud and prosecute them. Has the government done that ? No! Why ? Because the election fraud has favored the government . ( Ues it was in the wake of 2019 presidential elections we saw pictures of kids on voters register and that favored Buhari’s second term bid)

Now if a kid is alleged to have committed a crime , the law says u can only that kid within the child judicial system. There is no ifs and buts . The law does not say if the child is almajiri such child should be taken to an adult court to be tried or remanded in an adult prison . That is not the law .

Let’s not start bringing issues that are independent of each other just to win an argument . The reason why the AGF is stepping in at this point is because he has seen the obvious mess up from the government’s side. It’s as simple as that .

raumdeuter:
All what you said apply to children not "adults" and by the paper shown, the ages shown probably gotten from.their govt issued valid ID show they are adults.

We have been made to believe they are adults until it's time to face adults consequences that we are now doing a bait and switch that they are indeed children

Fortunately the AGF and the minister of women affairs are not obtuse enough to watch the video of those kids in court and be claiming they are adults because of any paper .

Maybe when the drop charges against them (like they should ) , u will start arguing with the sensibility of their decisions

Theflint1:
The idea is to create the impression that it's the North's system of child abuse, and not the kids that are the actual victims of that system on trial.

I just tire .

The child’s right act simply says you can’t try a child for a crime outside the child justice system . That is very self explanatory . Whether na almajari or non almajari once the person is a minor, u can only try that person under the child judicial system .

That is why bringing those kids to court is an obvious own goal scored by the government . The more reason why the AGF has stepped in, the minister of women affairs has done same . They will try to remedy the situation by ensuring charges are dropped against the kids while the charges against the adults amongst them will stay.

The child’s right act is Nigeria domesticating some of the international treaties applicable worldwide . So u should understand the kind of embarrassment the whole court scene must have created for the government .

GloriousGbola:
i have at no point said the children should be charged for treason



and this is where the northern conspiracy leads to a conundrum - there are likely hundreds of thousands of almajiri on the streets all with valid id cards identifying them as adults. these children likely voted in the last election and were not challenged when they came with id identifying them as adults. this may be why, as far as i can tell , prominent northern figures are silent on this matter, because any open protest on this if taken to a logical conclusion, will upset any future election numbers in the north.



yes they should - and i think this is a can of worms no one wants opened. because of just how many people are implicated in this conspiracy



this is why said previously that this has parallels with genz defense pf hamas. you are looking at this from the lens of the rights of children - but the fact of the matter is that the society where this took place has no problem with children living on the streets , no problem with children being used in riots, or intimidation. the almajiri are literally pawns. they are pawns right now





this is not an argument in favor of the government incarcerating minors - this is an argument about how we got here.

these children are a drop in the ocean of almajiri and if there is another demonstration tomorrow it is these same children that will be mobilized by political operators who do not give a damn about the child's rights act and who are pushing them forward with the hope that some of them are maimed and injured [for news] . there is a much bigger story here and that is the full spectrum of exploitation of almajiri - be it for elections, for civil unrest or outright mayhem. it is the elephant in the room that no one wanst to address because we will then hear that this is our culture - mind your business.

Prominent northers are not silent on the issue , most of them have spoken against the shameful video of the minors in court . As at the last time I checked Pantami, Kwankwanso , Shehu Sani and a host of others have spoken against the issue .

The reason I pointed Childs right to you is that it appears as tho there’s a conspiracy within the current government to explain away the national embarrassment witnessed in court on Friday . A child is a child whether almajiri or not .

There’s a reason the AGF had to step in and order the file be transferred to his office . Packing bunch of kids and trying them for a serious crime like treason in an adult court doesn’t look good on a country that has child rights act in operation. This is not the FG trying Sowore, Nnamdi Kanu etc for treason .

Dangote Refinery has dismissed the allegation of selling Premium Motor Spirit, PMS, also known as petrol at between N1, 015 and N1, 028/litre, as fake news.

Oil marketers, yesterday, said the price of petrol, produced by the Dangote Petroleum Refinery stood between N1, 015 and N1, 028/litre, adding that it would be reasonable to import the product from the international market as the landing cost stood at N978.01/litre as of October 31, 2024.

Reacting, the Chief Corporate Communications Officer of Dangote Group, Tony Chiejina, dismissed the allegation as ‘fake news’.

You claim something is fake news, Oya give us the genuine news by providing the real price you say no. Shey no be ment be that ?🤷‍♂️

GloriousGbola:
actually it goes far deeper than that because government officals saw gave obvious children adult id cards. this may be why as far as i can tell, most of the outrage is coming from the south. the northern politicians are mostly silent because they have been called out on their game. inec officials will be on the hook for this.



yes, if you have sex with a minor with fake id. but a voters card is legit, government issued ID, which you can present as an identifying document. then it is sex with minor with legal documentation saying this is an adult. so for ll intents and purposes, the person is an adult.



kids should not be tried for treason. but also, kids should not be used to prosecute riots. this is a variant of the same game hamas and co play, using the rules and norms of more civilised people against them.

the emaciated state of those kids is their normal state. are they not the same almajiri anyone who has been up north sees with begging bowls? these kids have no guardians or wards. they are almajiri, the designated foot soldiers anytime unknown soldier are needed to wreak havoc. these are the people who burn down houses during riots. the people who slaughtered corpers. an army of easily manipulated illiterates who will lynch you or me if the same person who told them to carry those flags tells them to kill me

the police are imho also playing a script. if the children have legal, government issued id that says they are adults, then who gave it to them?

i remember a story years back of how an frsc offical was set up. he organized a drivers license for a guy, only to find the person was a cripple. maybe teh guy was sacked, or jailed i dont know. but someone is definitely sweating right now

There is a whole lot wrong with your arguments but I think we need to first unpack the whole stuff by first getting the understanding of what treason is in Nigeria.

1. Charging those kids for treason simply means you are saying those kids are capable of and indeed levied a war against the government of federal republic of Nigeria by waving those flags during the protest .
And the federal government is seeking for death penalty for those kids if found guilty. Like they are in court arguing that those kids be sent to the executioner for waiving Russian flags during protests . I’ve not seen anywhere the government is trying to go after whoever had handed those flags to the kids ( which should’ve been the reasonable thing to do if they so believe waiving of those flags constituted an attempt to overthrow the government )

2. The argument that because the kids have government issued IDs that shows they are adults when in fact they are minors is an indictment on the society and the government . Having an adult IDs doesn’t necessarily make them adults . Haba! We all saw how baba Ijesha was sent to jail for having inappropriate sexxual relationship with a minor despite the fact that he claimed he believed she was an adult who was a willing participant.

3. If government wants to go after the people registering underage voters , issuing adult governs issued IDs to minors ; the government should do so. It is within their jurisdiction, but it’s not in this case the government will just decide to incarcerate kids because they assume then to be adults when they are minors in reality . The government should start by arresting the INEC officials who registered them and issued them adult voters card when they are obviously minors . At least the last time people pointed this anomaly out by sharing excerpts from the voters’ registers in the north; nothing was heard from the government about any action to be taken to address it.

4. There’s a reason why there’s child right act . It is to protect the right of the child and not subject them to the criminal justice system . Those kids have no business in an adult court room . They should have been tried under the child judicial system and processes ; that is what the child’s right act says. Irrespective of whether they are almajiri or children of elites the standard is the standard

5. The fact that the government authorities kept them in detention for almost 92 days before their first appearance in court is 4cked up mehn!

6. Anybody still trying to make argument in favor of the government seeing their glaring mess up at this point , I don’t have words for them.

nihilistjnr:
Kemo Lala!!!

This is huge for diasporan politics in the UK.

A Nigerian born woman head of the Tories!

Na Wetin I dey talk about be this.

Ur guy FFK Dey call her out onto how she Dey play politics the white man way

Theflint1:
They meant to punish the boys and try them for treason, this is them saying anyone can get it...they knew there'd be an outcry from the public, but by then the message would have been sent.

Goodluck to them sending everybody to jail o

''These boys that we brought to the court today are all adults. Most of them are married men, None of them is a minor.''

-Counsel to the Federal Government on the 67 arraigned minors

''These boys that we brought to the court today are all adults. Most of them are married men, None of them is a minor.''

-Counsel to the Federal Government on the 67 arraigned minors#ChannelsTV pic.twitter.com/iOVKNEBo8Z

— Channels Television (@channelstv) November 1, 2024

''Once you are more than 7 years old, you can be charged to court ... none of them is less than 7 ... the fact that you are 13 years old does not mean you can't be charged to court ''

-Force PRO, Muyiwa Ogunjobi


https://x.com/channelstv/status/1852462737093214383?s=46

Omo! They can’t even get their stories straight . Shame!

In 2012 there was anti-subsidy removal protest .The protests turned bloody in different parts of the country , Protesters(adults ) were arrested and despite the fact that the government planned to try them for treason , the protesters were released without charges .

12 years after , you have the government of the day parading underage and malnourished kids as criminals who intend to overthrow the government on some trumped up treasonable felony charge .

How times have changed ! 🤷‍♂️

Prosperity is close indeed .

Theflint1:
It's not stupidity, it's a deliberate show of force and brutality by a government struggling for legitimacy.

The NSA is aware of this situation, and he reports to the presidency... The kids are being tried for treason.

That’s why I believe both the executive and judiciary are complicit in this show of shame.

In what world will the police authority park malnourished kids who participated in a protest to an adult courtroom and claim they are prosecuting them for treason . It’s a shame that Lateef Fagbemi (SAN) the AGF allowed this to happen under his watch . I don’t think these people have good advisers at all.

The judge only showed she’s in cahoot with the executive with unreasonable bail condition set for the kids .

Itsrm:
I'm telling you. TVC had to pull down the video of those children. Even they felt very embarrassed.

Knowing how useless the police can be, I bet at least one of those children had nothing to do with flags. It can happen to our children tomorrow.

This rascality must be condemned by everyone

It’s embarrassing honestly .

How can the police force of a country pack dozens of kids and charge them to an adult court for trumped up charges of treason ?

What happened to charging them to juvenile court for public disturbance or something ? So they are saying these malnourished kids want to overthrow Tinubu ? 🤦‍♂️

I don’t even know how anybody can be okay with seeing those malnourished kids eating biscuit and water sitting on the floor of an adult court .

Itsrm:
Thats not what I said. Executive to make calls to the Police to withdraw the baseless and asinine charges.

If the police withdraws, the judiciary will have no other choice but to dismiss the case.

I don’t even understand why he feels the need to always play the devils advocate on anything that involves government’s mess .

Watching the whole court video is embarrassing as a Nigerian honestly . Whether you are pro or anti government , It’s embarrassing and repulsive . 🤮

raumdeuter:
So lets clarify it properly, Na judiciary wey set bail at 10m mess up, Not the police who arrested, The job of police is to arrest and charge to court. Its the work of judiciary to speed up trials and be reasonable with bail conditions

I am not sure it was police who told judges to put bail or homeless kids at 10m

How did u read my post and come to this conclusion ?

I literally said both arms of government and gave reasons why I believe so. It is still up there 👆 in my post na