₦airaland Forum

afrodoc2:
I don't think 1/3 of Nigerian adults voted. Maybe 10-15% of the adults i know personally voted.

We might not be 230m, but we are closer to 200m than that 120m you mentioned.

raumdeuter:
Look at this wiki link that puts out population at 230M and compared it side by side with our last census
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population

What brings growth are birth rate , migration , stability
It makes sense that some states grew in Population e.g Lagos FCT, Ogun etc because of these factors. Comparing 2006 census which we knew was also dagbo but at least we had a census to the estimates currently Lagos grew by 70%, Ogun 70% FCT by 240%, but we are having states like
But how can you tell me that Borno -60% Zamfara -70% Kebbi- 84%, Gombe 95%, Yobe -87% grew at the same rate or even higher than Lagos state despite the terrorism suffered in the last 15yrs in some of those places which affect the stability and migration factors

That is why we are getting the 230M we are claiming

raumdeuter:
You guys are arguing the wrong thing

Theflint1 said 10% of Nigerias population votes. You should know by now that the population being peddled around is fake. We are about half of it

There is no way the numbers we are claiming 200m 230m is real our population is about 100m is we are not lying to ourselves

Theflint1:
I'm not sure where Larride has got that idea that for opposition to win, they need massive voter turnout...so however much a party fails, the assumption is they'd always retain their voting base?

For an opposition party to win, they simply have to win voters from the other party their way, 2020 US elections had more people vote than this 2024 elections, which means Trump won by having people that voted blue last time, vote red this time around.

larride:
No election is perfect, not just in Nigeria but all over the world, every nation seeks to continue to reform and perfect their electoral process.

In the case of Adamawa, The rightful winner was declared winner irrespective of what the REC did. Same as in Abia. The means the system might not be perfect but it does get it right in a lot of ways.

Adeleke won in the Supreme Court the same way Oyetola won in the Supreme court. Infact it was the same context that Oyetola use to win in 2018 that Adeleke also used to win in 2023 at the Supreme Court.

INEC can't battle election violence, that's the job of the security operatives.

Finally, there's nowhere in my post that's defending APC or anything so i don't know where you think this argument is anything about APC.

The simple truth is that in any election, for opposition to win, it needs massive turnout of their base. that's the basis of my argument and post to theflint1.

Theflint1:


Unless you match the people you're fighting violence for violence, the extent to which you can fight candidates that are ready to rig elections depends on the extent to which they're ready to yield. It doesn't matter whether opposition candidates register under one party, if the party in charge means to rig a particular election by every means possible, they'd rig it.

And you can't convince regular citizens to go toe-to-toe with government backed thugs (agbero's, police and army), you'd need your own version of these guys to wage your violence, but after you use violence and all to win, what then happens to the violent thugs that saw you over the finishing line.

larride:
And abysmal voters turnout makes it easy for vote buying, rigging and violence. It's easy to buy out 50 people compared to say 400. its easy to inflate votes when turn out is low and it's easy for 2 or 3 thugs to chase 50 then to chase 400.

The higher the voters turnout, the harder it is to rig or to intimidate with violence.

larride:
Inspite of all these, Alex Otti won in Abia, Father Alia won in Benue, even Yusuf won Ganduje candidate in Kano. APC almost lost Kaduna Governorship election.

2023 election was largely peaceful. Violence only happened in Lagos and Rivers, the process went smoothly in most of the other states. Lagos and Rivers election were not the decider of the Presidential election, infact the opposition won 1 of those 2 states, give the opposition those 2 states and nothing will change in the final outcome. APC will still win.

If the opposition talking points is then now centered on what happened in Lagos and Rivers and using it to discourage their own base from coming out en masse to vote, its giving easy victory to the incumbent party.

Look back to Osun 2022 Governorship election, in 2018, Adeleke and PDP claimed they were rigged out. in 2022, their slogan was come out and vote and then defend your vote. You need people to come out and vote and then defend it.

Our democracy is not there yet and our electoral system still need more reforms and perfection but opposition still need more people to come out and vote. It's the same everywhere.

larride:
Everything you have said is true but we have seen INEC cancel polling unit results because of violence, we have seen then cancel LG result because of violence and like that.

Even last year election, opposition polled more votes than APC that won. almost double APC votes. the only reason why APC is still in power is because the opposition votes were divided.

The opposition apart from being divided need to always preach people coming out en masse to vote and holding the government responsible for safeguarding the voters. The higher the number of turnout of voters, the harder it is to rig.

Theflint1:
These are the issues, people saying they won't come out to vote is a response to the issues we have with elections.

Say person come out vote for Nigeria, knowing all of these issues, the person deserve thumbs up.

larride:
In any election, opposition need massive turnout to defeat incumbent party.

In Nigeria, opposition will be discouraging their own base with talk of election rigging and the likes that those who should turn the election in their favor will just sit at home thinking their vote won't kuku count.

Last year election, more people voted the opposition than the incumbent party. APC had 8m+ votes, the opposition (PDP, LP, NNPP) had over 14m+ votes. Those opposition were all in the same party months before splitting for the election.

larride:
He was sick with Cancer, the FG already knows his survival is very slim, thats why they appointed a new COAS since last week.

May his soul rest in peace.

May our lives not be cut short at the pinnacle of our career.

ddippset:
Lol

Dunno about you,, but me?

I don't consider a female equal to me physically and mentally.

raumdeuter:
The Algerian boxer at the last Olympics, I read that tests are now showing she is male

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1853411402280509446

raumdeuter:
Not love but a sexx tape of any regular person can be embarrassing, they created it not knowing it would leak and its not for public view. And can be really damaging for a regular person except you be celebrity

As I no like you reach , I still wont want your sextape on gist9ja

GloriousGbola:
He does not want confirmation that his ex had Ebang as a side prick

raumdeuter:
My guy who used to date one of Theodorin's cousins is wondering and hoping his ex gf is not one of those in the 400 clips

PRESS RELEASE
IGP RECEIVES REPORT ON CARE, WELFARE OF YOUNG DETAINEES; ASSURES OF FOLLOW THROUGH ON RECOMMENDATIONS

Following the recent remand and subsequent arraignment of some young individuals on Friday, 1st November, the Inspector-General of Police while in Algiers, Algeria for the African Union Mechanism for Police Cooperation committee meeting directed investigation into the conditions surrounding the care and welfare of these young persons while in Police detention facilities.

Upon receiving the investigative report today in Glasgow, where the IGP is currently participating in Interpol General Assembly, the IGP vowed to thoroughly examine it and take necessary actions to address any procedural lapses or concerns.
To further ensure professionalism in investigation with emphasis on child-friendly investigation and care, the IGP has summoned all DCs CID and Heads of Investigation Units to a conference and workshop on November 7, 2024, at the Police Resource Center, Jabi.

The Nigeria Police Force reaffirms its commitment to upholding legal frameworks, ensuring fairness, and accountability, especially for vulnerable groups.

ACP Olumuyiwa Adejobi, mnipr, mipra, fCAI,
Force Public Relations Officer,
Force Headquarters,
Abuja.

4th November 2024

TemporaryHansel:
https://www.nairaland.com/8258124/1.3-trillion-oil-derivation-fraud/1

If Okowa stole 1.3T that means wike stole up to 3T oh. This news is scary because if these guys can steal this much, just imagine how much Tinubu has stolen since 1999.

Unlimited22:
You edited the original post, but in no particular order, the most important men to City's success IMO are/have been:

Josep Guardiola
Txiki Begiristain
Juanma Lillo
Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al Nahyan

liveLongNprospa:
Now let's see if the Judiciary will take orders from the executive 😁

Theflint1:
I'm sure in his quiet moments even him would laugh at the defense unpaid online vuvuzelas make on his behalf.

Thank God common sense prevailed.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
E get some things wey person no suppose defend.
According to our laws, those kids are not even allowed to be detained for more than 48hrs without charging them to court.

Keeping them in the same police custody with adult is also illegal.
Bringing them for trial at a federal high court is also illegal.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I thought they have valid government ID that shows they're adult?
Abi dem no show BAT their voters card?

popizaino:
That is literally me when i see them too after my experience on travelling from ilorin to Sokoto in early 2020 just before Covid-19 lockdown. Some few kilometres into Niger state and we were completely away from civilization on a dusty unmarked road in some remote parts of the state for 2hrs plus. You cannot get anything that value has been added to,only farm produce not even pure water. As i like adventure reach, I swore i was going to fly back when am returning,only for lockdown to hinder my plans. There are just too many terrible roads in this country to ignore for a new road.

Following the outrage that trailed the arrest and arraignment of minors over the #EndBadGovernance protests held in several parts of the country in August, President Bola Tinubu has directed the immediate release of all the detainees.

Minister of Information and National Orientation, Mohammed Idris, disclosed this to State House correspondents on Monday after the President swore in seven newly appointed ministers cleared by the Senate.


The minister said the President ordered the immediate release of the minors without prejudice to whatever legal processes that are ongoing.
The President also directed the Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs and Poverty Reduction to immediately see to the welfare of those minors, and also take part to ensure their smooth reunion with their parents or guardians wherever they are in the country

akwesenana:
Good afternoon bosses. Please I'm curious about something. Between Rodri and Debruyne, who is more important to Man City's set up.

Note more important not better
Thanks for your time.

Cc afrodoc2 blueraydick raumdeteur unlimited22, et al.

iamoyindamola:
Naso Otem carry us too that year make we pray for benue
E pain me that day I won’t lie

iamoyindamola:
Prayer and stomach infrastructure
That's the only thing in their head

CrystalTiger:
APC

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

popizaino:
@raumdeuter

I say let me bring to you reality on ground in Nigeria since you are out of touch with it. This is the terrible conditions most of our major roads are in. Now should the FG neglect it and still go ahead with Lagos - Calabar highway?