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GloriousGbola:
it was terrible. and it is a lesson in stakeholder management. if you do not carry along your stakeholders - however well intentioned your project is - it is dead

even worse - it was conceived by a company based in an ordered - first world society. dubai. wetin consaign nigerians with sorting rubbish for recycling?

Nigerians no get chills at all. It was just like when Fashola was busy planting flowers everywhere; bar people living in places like Magodo, Ogudu, GRA Ikeja, Lekki/VI/Island axis, most people didn't really care about any yeye flower.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yeah.

I don't know whether it is still the same, but when Visionscope started there, it was doing all that.

Another place is Oshodi too...at Charity bus stop[/color]

Maybe if Ambode had avoided political problems, he would've been judged fairly. Back then the visionscape idea looked really bad and the implementation made his administration looked so poor.

Looking back now , he seem to have a very good initiative but messed up its implementation. That time they will just put one giant Visionscape dump in a central location and before day break the dump will be overflowing with refuse

All those LAWMA people he was trying to run down worked in conjunction with area boys to frustrate whatever good he had intentions of doing with that Visionscape . They delibrately dumped refuse on major roads and public places. If Visionscape packs the refuse this morning, before evening the whole area will be littered with another heap of refuse . That killed whatever goodwill he had with the people

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yeah

When he brought Visionscope during his tenure, they built that place.

After he lost, LAWMA took over the place[/color]

That place was built like a complete processing plant. I think they do recycling there(Tho I'm not so sure)

airmark:
This one is BLUERAY- PAIN to the land owners.

Lolz.

Do u know that there are lands in the Epe corridor that are strictly reserved to be for Agricultural usage? Those lands are expected to be used for farm settlement, anybody that acquires such land and develops a residential or commercial premises there will be running foul of the law.

What I'm suggesting is that such prohibition should be for lands close to the proposed refuse dump site. This is to prevent spread of diseases in the future . That way , nobody should buy land close to the dump site

swiz123:
I hope you are ready to start paying outrageous lawma fees once they incure such serious cost coz there is no free lunch anywhere

I dey pay LAWMA bill steady na. I believe the cost will be spread on all consumers and not me alone, so we will all pay the cost incured

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The dumpsite for Lagos Island is located at the end of Third Mainland....After Adeniji Adele.

It was Ambode that built it. Very standard[/color]

I think u are right, I just remember I usually see LAWMA truck around that side; as if u want to follow Adeniji go link that Oba palace side.

swiz123:
That means, the most populated area of Lagos State is the Ikeja division. The battalion at Alimosho alone can rival that of Ikorodu as a whole.

How stupid will Ogun state be to condemn the prospect of development in a particular area with reasonable proximity to Lagos just because they want to sell a piece of land to Lagos State government for waste disposal?

Ogun state has so many undeveloped green areas that may not even get developed in decades to come. If the money is right, they will take it and use the money for other developmental projects in the heart of Ogun state.

Nothing wey money no fit do na.

GloriousGbola:
see this one - you know nothing - lagos island is sorted - dump straight into the lagoon !

As funny as this sounds, they still do it till date especially when it's raining.

GloriousGbola:
it does and it means those aeas can be earmarked as garbage hubs

as an example - it was during ambodes time epe was developed. space in that region could have been used

there was a giant swath of undeveloped space by lagos badabry expressway that was an informal rubbish dump. i thnk they may be taking it over now to make into a proper rubbish dump, but i am not sure

green is undeveloped, red na informal rubbish dump

I support this! The only government need to do is just ensure it is gazetted that developing residential or commercial premises close to that site is forbidden. So, in the future no matter the amount of development that happens along that corridor, nobody should build residential premises there. That way, any future outbreak of airborne diseases has been avoided

Until we adopt a culture of naming & shaming government officials responsible for issuing the contracts and contractors responsible for abandoning the projects, nothing will change as far as abandoned project is concerned in this country.

I remember how a senior colleague used to lament about the road projects and flyovers abandoned by Amosun in Ogun state. Today Amosun is a senator representing the same state he left so many abandoned project in the senate.

In a sane country someone like Amosun should never be allowed near public office again.

swiz123:
Lagos has only commercial and residential areas. I doubt there are free spaces anywhere. Maybe at Epe, Badagry or Ibeju cos I haven't been to those places.

Which areas do you propose they site their dump sites? I know Lagos is so chocked up that people live on top of water.

Lagos has 5 divisions ; IBILE(Ikorodu , Badagry, Ikeja, Lagos Island and Epe). They can site dumps in all 5 divisions by choosing a location that is yet to be developed and then forbid development of residential properties in those choice locations.

At least I know this is achievable for Badagry, Epe and Ikorodu. There are places not yet developed in those areas.

As for Lagos Island, the whole division is not that big , they can use the same dump site as Epe division.

As for Ikeja Division which consists of Agege, Ifako-Ijaiye, Kosofe, Mushin, Alimosho, Oshodi-Isolo, Somolu and Ikeja LGA's , I honestly don't know of any non-residential area/undeveloped area they can site the dump sha

Maybe Lagos state government can buy acres of land from Ogun state and site the dump around all those Ota, Atan side sha

GloriousGbola:
you forgot to add their complete disregard for traffic etiquette and laws because they are all run/owned by ranking APC members

That one there's nothing u can do about it o. Which LASTMA official go arrest truck owned by a ranking party member ? When be say na party member help u get ur LASTMA job

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I know that place

It's worst when it rains. I wonder how no epidemic has broken out, because of that.

That place stinks, and people are residing there.[/color]

You really know the place. Flooding is another major issue on that axis when it rains, the drainages along that axis are blocked.

swiz123:
To be fair to Lawma, they are trying though. Lagos has mad population and large population equals large waste product. I doubt many states in Nigeria can manage waste like Lagos did given such high volume of waste produced daily.

For example, Obiano nearly turned Onitsha to a waste bin truck because he couldn't manage the waste produced in the city. Almost everywhere in Onitsha then was dirty because the city is very populated. Same can be said of Aba under PDP. The city was so dirty that is was termed " Aba dirty".

Lawma has potential to improve especially when you see how efficient and diligent they take the collection and storage of plastic bottles they hold to sell for recycling. This goes to show that they can be twice better in waste management if the state motivates them with better funding. No one deserves to be packing dirt for peanuts.

Need I add that they have been picking my waste free of charge

The LAWMA/PSP is a very good initiative and Lagos state government deserves kudos for it. They are not perfect but can be better.

I only have two issues with them:

1. The need for them to site their dumps in non-residential areas where people are not at risk of any air-borne or communicable diseases

2. The need for them to remove large dump containers in public places like markets during the day. I mean the dump containers can be evacuated in the night before day breaks and starts being an eyesore.

As for the free of charge waste disposal wey u dey enjoy ehn, by the time they bring bill for ur building u go know say there's no free lunch anywhere

iamoyindamola:
So niger people come out country to mutilate our currency 😂

The way EFCC epp them write the shalaye sef

swiz123:
For all the effort Lagos State government put in to combat traffic, I find it surprising how unhygienic they left some areas.

I see Lawma pass Ikeja underbridge, Kodesoh street and assume for my sanity sake that they have catarrh. Because can some explain what that horrible smell of refuse dump mixed with urine of a thousand homeless touts doing at the center of Lagos State??

My head even spins when I see two women selling food and puff puff respectively under the same bridge, 20 ft away from the horrible dump and piss.

Na this one u see?

Let me shock u. There's a place along Lasu-Isheri expressway called Lanre Bus stop. While we were much younger, there used to be an amusement park at that bus stop called Rosellas Amusement park where parents take their kids for swimming, relaxation and to see Father Christmas during December period.

Suddenly a refuse dump surfaced on the other side of the road in that same bus stop and over time the refuse dump was converted to a big dump site where LAWMA go to empty all refuse trucks from Alimosho LGA, Ejigbo, Isolo, Ojo & Environs.

This singular act killed the business of that amusement park within a very short period. Till date that place smells like hell. Funny thing is all the lands in that area has been developed into full residential buildings. In fact Alimosho General hopsital is very close that dump site. If u are driving along that road now, u will see LAWMA trucks parked along the road waiting for their turn to empty their trucks. I remember being in a bus around 2011 and one student dropped at the bus stop. Before the lady dropped, her friends trolled her Yoruba saying" So u live at Lanre bus stop? No wonder u are fat "

When people talk about "Lagos Master Plan" , I just laugh at their faces because it is funny as hell to me knowing what I know about some of these things. I mean in what master plan will there be a refuse dump in a fully residential area. In what master plan will there be a government owned general hospital located few meters away from a dump where the offensive odour can even affect the health of patients in the facility?

https://x.com/instablog9ja/status/1856101006678819278?s=46

EFCC went after Bobrisky and Cubana chief priest for spraying and abusing the Naira .

E reach influential northerners turn for them to go after and complete WAZOBIA , EFCC begin write epistle to the people of Thessalonians ✍️

This country na George Orwell’s animal farm in real life;All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.🤦‍♂️

Greatswimmer:
The Chinese have strucked again ooo
I don go download counterfeit version of snowfall.

I actually wanted to when I downloaded the first two episode but I nudge myself to continue due to fact that you spoke highly of it and given the antecedent that I felt the same in the first 3-4 episode of the spent queen which I latter enjoyed the rest.

I am in pain

Iamoyindamola can help u reactivate the download link for snowfall, it’s just that u must be online to download it within a certain time frame before the link expires

afrodoc2:
This is very wicked and uncalled for from those attacking her.

She looks very responsible and like someone that knows how to work very hard. I am also willing to invite her over and mentor her in the healthcare industry. I just don't know if she will be happy to work Down Under.

Na so! U will teach her human anatomy as a consultant and mentor that u are na

Ballzproblem2:
rivers state air is 100x better than Lagos air ,Lagos people too ey get cancer.

Naso

Itsrm:
The air is much better now. Bunkery is no longer as brazen as it used to be.

I know , I was still in PH recently .

I was only giving an example in my original post that people can complain about their state focusing on what thing they don’t like about it and it’s not really a big deal. An it’s not worth something one should lose job over .

Na ballzproblem know where he see agenda

Ballzproblem2:
una go find way include rivers state for agenda,nawao.

Which agenda is that ?

Do u even know how many times Rivers state made the news in past about how soot from Kpofire polluted the air few years back ?

https://www.nairaland.com/6927499/black-soot-situation-ph

https://www.nairaland.com/6938740/root-cause-soot-rivers-state

Click the links and see for urself .

Amigoss:
Low-key Dangote don add money for cement,between 9500-10800 depending on location,Heard coke is 550 now....E don dey bloody oooo!!!

Where is Fccpc and their Nairaland mouthpiece? Make dem lock NBC and Dangote factories na ABI na supermarket and traders their power reach

Just look at this person’s experience

On Saturday I supplied 50 cartons of Malta Guinness for N13,500.
My gain per carton was N500. Meaning I profited N25k.
Today I went for restock and they're telling me it's now N15k cost price per carton. Meaning I will add extra 75k to restock the 50cartons. Economic reforms una

https://x.com/masurge7/status/1855945944568578375?s=46


FCCPC kor , OGBC 2 ni 😂

Trader wey no Dey careful nowadays go sell at a a loss without knowing

GloriousGbola:
https://gwg.ng/2024/11/11/igbo-nurse-gets-japa-job-offer-after-being-threatened-with-sack-deportation-from-lagos/

this support go get k-leg sha

the babe na igala

everyone on the matter dey score own goal

to be fair - if you have lived up in an underdeveloped civil service state the air just smells different. almost sweet.

You see what I was saying . How will anybody look at this her tweet and suddenly assume she was saying this to denigrate Lagos ?

Anybody that lives in Lagos and has been to other states will agree with her if we are being truthful and not looking at things with any political lens.

How can a sane human being just start tagging Lagos state government and every tag able person to this tweet ?

iamoyindamola:
It's actually true, people smell and they are comfortable about it
Some even justify why they have to smell because naija is dealing with them because of that they can't afford deodorant
Some go use smell choke you

For humans , there’s little or nothing u can do about that o especially if it’s a public space or bus .

Deodorant being expensive even makes it easy for people to have excuse

GloriousGbola:
Depends. If 95% of the posters on this thread say lagos is smelly, they are simply stating their experience. However go to the politics thread or other threads and it is about an agenda.

We can talk about how messed up some things are in lagos. And we will be laughing with each other about it. Go to a different thread and they will be laughing at you about it.

Twitter is usually full of people with agenda so the response to almost any negative comment is likely to be defensive.

As in.... I'm shook

I was trying to even see if there's a context to it; maybe the lady was arguing tribal stuff with the other guy and then makes the "Lagos is smelly " post in response. I have however been able to see any post suggesting that.

I mean why did that guy just decide to put her on the spot and start tagging everybody to her post like she set out to denigrate Lagos state government or something ? Does that not qualify for cyberbullying ?

Nowadays I’m beginning to think maybe some people are paid to hate or to create narratives of hates around people on twitter just to distract others from even having time to hold government accountable? 🤦‍♂️

The level of bile people are willing to throw at other people over their personal opinion that doesn’t agree with theirs is just crazy mehn!

From what I’ve seen thus far, this lady made a very harmless post complaining about Lagos being smelly ( which is a fact for anybody who has breathed-in air in Lagos and other states ) , but someone is tagging Lagos state government(her employers ) and calling for her sack .

I mean I’ve been to Rivers state and I can decide to rant about how air in PH is heavy with soot and all. Should that suddenly be a reason for one to get sacked ? 🤷‍♂️

It’s only hate that will make you to start calling for the sack of someone over their personal opinion that is true . I mean if u go to Idumota between 5am to 7am, u will literally meet a dung hill of refuse by the foot of the bridge smelling very early in the morning . Is it now a sin to say things the way they are ? Now she's getting scary calls over an innocent opinion she shared on her page

Theflint1:
They're out of touch, yet feel the need to throw in partisan comments, maybe they feel say the people wey dey complain steady online na because dem no like APC.

Imagine getting expensive epileptic power, and the alternative is to fuel gen at over 1K per liter.

I always shake my head when I go on twitter see all those blue tick influencers (i.e those based abroad and the few based in Nigeria but political aides) gaslighting people in this hard times.

Some of them will even claim that hardship has always been in Nigeria and there willl always be hardship in the country . They feel the moment u point out how hard things are, u are doing it from the place of "hate" for their principal and not because things are hard for us all generally.

iamoyindamola:
Try this one
The resolution go small sha 480p
https://driveseed.org/file/avOym7lEtIu0JyFKieP1

Thanks

iamoyindamola:
Normal normal in a working system
They suppose dan fire adelabu since
It's only here government people fail and get second, third and multiple chance

That's naija for u now.

Even Tinubu his principal knows the truth, when he was listing his administration's so called achievement, nowhere did he mention anything about improved electricity supply cos he knows where he met things and where things are currently.

As in, Tinubu listed 29 key policies/achievements and nowhere did he mention improved power supply.

iamoyindamola:
Have you tried the honey bunny

That one no download at all; the link kept failing at the point of download

iamoyindamola:
The citadel Diana was more interesting than the first IMO
The first one was confusing me until the end

Maybe my bias against all those sci-fi made me lose interest in that Citadel Diana sha. All those shiiit about "earth of the future" just not my thing