₦airaland Forum

A001:
I don't read nonsense first thing in the morning, noisemaker and keyboard warrior. Keep ranting and rant from now till the next year, WS still remains one of the greatest African minds alive. That's a statement of fact, which is true whether he supports your candidate or not.

Smart and intelligent adults will tell u there was nowhere Wole Soyinka’s academic greatness was doubted in my post . But I don’t expect u to find anything that is beyond ur reasoning capability intelligible .

If u don’t want to read from me then u should stop mentioning me . That’s what wise people do, but then again I ask too much from teejay the pseudo-intellectual-cum-trado physicist .

A001:
Just intensify your effort calling for a 90-year-old man to continue leading campaigns for social justice and activism against the corrupt political class at old age, while you (a youth full of energy) hide behind your keyboard making funny posts.

Many people are hypocrites, and people that are "real" like WS are scarce, which is why he's highly respected by many home and abroad.

Many people that make posts and noises online about good causes don't mean or practice what they say offline, and they do the direct opposite in the real world offline.

Talk is cheap. Only few humans really practice what they preach online in the real world.

U asked what has Wole Soyinka become and I have tried to reply u as civil as I can ever be while overlooking ur attempts to make me attack the prof’s personae ( A bait I chose not to fall for )

I know u have Celebrity Obsession Disorder which makes u get hard-ons when u hear the name Wole Soyinka mentioned in whatever context . Nonetheless , I won’t let u control the narrative and misconstrue my posts that I’m asking an 89 year old man to lead a protest against any political class.

My post is very easy to understand for those who are open minded and not some pseudo-intellectual growing Afro forming a prof wannabe .

A001:
You're not making any kind of sense. It's easy to make tweets online and make Nairaland posts.

Offline is the real deal, and most people are just noisemakers, including people that type silly posts on Nairaland about Wole Soyinka.

I'd take your more seriously if you've ever done any form of activism or organized a program that fought for social justice, not mere online noises.

If you've ever done so, then you'd see the enormity of what WS has achieved in Nigeria's history.

You're just making online noises expecting a 90-year-old to continue organizing activism and social justice programs at old age. I don't even understand how many of you reason.

Like I said before, it's easy to make online noises and rants. Offline is where the real work is, and we know the real men and women with the courage to record key achievements in the country's history, one of which is WS.

Everyone can't support your candidate. That's a reality you need to come to terms with.

Okay . I have tried to reply to ur post as civil as I can ever be and as usual u have typed as irrational and out of point as u have always done.

That’s the best u can get from me .

sleekdot:
Many Nigerians do not participate in these online polls

If na by online polls Obi will be celebrating 1yr of governance not Tweeting and farming for Elon Musk dollars

I was obviously referring to the 1% of those who had access to the internet and actually participated in the polls .

Nowhere did I infer many or most Nigerians participated in the polls

A001:
What has Wole Soyinka become in his old age? Lols, regardless of online rants and noises like this, WS has written his name boldly on the sands of time as one of the greatest Africans of the 20th/21st century.

I just read some funny posts like this online and laugh. Wole Soyinka is currently one of the few greatest and most accomplished African writers alive. That's a fact, which is true regardless of whether he supports your candidate or not.

I will overlook the fact that ur paragraph was out of point and the second paragraph was almost same and I will just answer the question “ what has he become in his old age ? “

Wole Soyinka “ The activist” has become a man who now condones most of the ills he once stood against .

My post was about his activism and not about his academic/professional accomplishments . Every reasonable educated fellow knows he’s an accomplished writer who is reputed for his works all over the world .

But then there’s Wole Soyinka the activist , the man who formed Pyrates to fight for human rights and social justice . There was a Wole Soyinka who took a gun , headed to a government radio station , took over a live program and played a pre-recorded tape calling the incumbent premier of western region a thief . Why ? Because the premier of western region was generally believed to have rigged himself into power with the backing of federal might against the wishes of the people .


That was the Wole Soyinka I was talking about. That Wole Soyinka who would not agree with the official election result but took laws into his hands by committing a felony just to force his perceived winner down everybody’s throat irrespective of what the “official” figures says . That is the man who now gets offended by a group of youths disagreeing with INEC’s official figures put out.

So u see, I’m coming from a place of someone who read what Kongi the social justice fighter had done in his youthful days in the name of what he believes to be justice

Ellexy:
So far from what I've gleaned online tonight, Northern handles on Twitter are against the rumoured restructuring. They're saying the North will be at a disadvantage for example the Boko haram and Banditary issues will become regional issues instead of national and the states in the over there do not have the resources to tackle such. Then there are other issues like IGR, natural resources etc.

It's not surprising that Shettima or the average Northerner will be against restructuring. This rumour is a good distraction away from the massive failure of this administration so far. Give the people something to yap about.

U are right, some of these things are calculated attempt at distracting the people from
The real issues .

The Wole Soyinka outburst against Obi, the introduction of the national anthem and now this phantom restructuring story . All of these 3 came on the heels of Tinubu marking one year anniversary in office with nothing tangible to show for his one year residency at the seat of power .

Investors are leaving in droves , some existing investors are shunning the country to invest elsewhere and we have food inflation going above the roof. They don’t want u discussing all these , they just want u discussing whether the national anthem was composed by a foreigner in a contest that overlooked hundred of Nigerians or that Wole Soyinka who took over a radio station with a gun in his youthful days is in a position to call out youths who insulted him for what he’s become in old age.

These things don’t matter , but that’s want they want us discussing and they are actually succeeding at it

Unlimited22:
See nau

https://twitter.com/StatiSense/status/1796630747526131834?s=19


But ndị abroad say he's done a fantastic job

Lol

U see that 1% of South west that voted Tinubu excellent ? They are the ndi abroad, those in naija wey their children abroad Dey wire money to and few political sycophants . The problem wey Dey town no concern them.

I know some of them personally

[quote author=Ellexy post=130242813]Kashim Shettima on restructuring...

Restructuring my foot! To hell with restructuring! Kashim Shettima tells Nigerians. pic.twitter.com/eltLcQro1v

— Segun Ajayi (@DSegaj) May 31, 2024

]😂😂😂

Shettima na Nama .

He obviously didn’t know that if the country is restructured , governors won’t have anywhere to hide . All the respective governors who get allocation but have nothing to show for it will be held by the jugular by their citizens .

A state like bayelsa will no longer claim that FG is sharing money made from bayelsa oil to Borno. The bayelsa governor will have to show workings how he’s spent the money he received as allocation.

Even the northern governors that get billions upon billions as allocations that fail to transform the life of their citizens only to get angry when a southerner says “ the north is poor “…./ such governors will have nowhere to hide .

Alas all of this is lost on shetimma . He say restructure my foot .

If he was from Brazil dem supposed name am NAMAdinho

GloriousGbola:
Actually I think it is. We all have BVN. People who thought they took anchor loan or wetin call were shocked when money was withdrawn from their account. Once you have a BVN, I don't think you can get away like that. And the fg will probably add some sort of school fees clearance like NYSC certificate.

Imho, student loans will drastically reduce the number of people who have no business being in university. Free / subsidised education unfortunately has meant a school to cult pipeline where people with no actual academic ambition enter uni with sole aim of being in cult.

Of what use is the BVN of someone who was rusticated from school and maybe ended in prison? The debt will go bad na

larride:
Jim Ovia is the chairman of NELFUND

Then that's good.

sod09:
Na village people or madness be that
For last lap

I've actually seen someone who joined cult in his 400l. Even though he wasn't rusticated sha, but imagine if someone like that gets caught up in a cult clash where lives are lost and he somehow he gets arrested and expelled. Where FG wan take collect the money they paid on his head till date?

Itsrm:
I'm not sure they have a choice o. A lot of those loans will go bad. Except they are ready to write it off.

The bank my wife works had to stop their staff car loan because people were taking the loan and using it to fund japa. And once they japa, they don't service the loan.

These are the issues that actually need to be ironed out before they start disbursing. If these issues are not ironed out, the program will die a slow natural death despite how good it looks.

I hope the government actually consulted people in the financial services and didn't just leave everything to career civil servants, politicians, and political appointees. They need to run scenario analysis, do a lot of permutations and combinations.

sod09:
The best way is the loan application should start from 200 level by this the government will know serious and unserious one
As for cultists, malpractice, death etc na bad debt oo
Cc blueraydick, itsrm, larride

People dey join cult for first semester 400l and get rusticated second semester o

Itsrm:
Isn't there a way of insuring loans? I think I've heard something similar before

Loans are insurable actually. There's Credit insurance which will guarantee the lender that in the event a debtor is unable to pay the balance of a loan, the insurance company will pay the creditor back.

The problem with that is FG will be expending more cost if they do Credit insurance on behalf of students because we all know the students don't have money to pay for the insurance before accessing the loan. For normal bank loans, the bank will debit ur loan account for the insurance premium which means u the borrower would've even paid for the insurance before disbursement

sod09:
Nah I don't think state students should be given
No offence but they know what they are getting at picking state owned schools
The state government should bring out loans to their students
Don't kill tinubu for us
I don't really rate state own schools sha

A school is as good as the crop of lecturers teaching there and the funding available to the management. There's nothing special about federal schools, it is just the funding they have access to and the larger number of lecturers they have access to that makes the difference.

Nowadays sef, some private universities have better lecturers than Federal varsities. Some federal varsity lecturers have moved to private universities for better pay.

If state governments are intentional about spending on education, a lot of state schools will overtake federal varsities.

larride:
It seems NELFUND has began processing student loan applications for undergraduates in federal universities. If you know anyone in Fed Uni in need of student loan, you can ask them to apply.

https://www.nelf.gov.ng/

The student loan looks good on paper and may as well be one of the good legacies Tinubu can leave behind( If it is properly administered )

Sometimes last week I read in the papers that the pilot phase of the loan will be accessible to only students in Federal owned higher institutions (.i.e. FG owned Varsity, Polytechnic and College of Education). Maybe state owned schools will be added later or their respective governors will have to float something similar to complement FG's program in their respective states , only time will tell.

That being said, I have just one major concern which I didn't see addressed in the news article. According to plan the student's fees will be paid directly to the school's account and not handed over to the student .

My concern is let's say a student has been on the student loan from year one and after year three due to poor academic performance, exam malpractice or cultism he gets expelled/rusticated from school; how will the FG recoup the principal they have expended on such students from year 1 to 3? Remember a student is expected to start repayment 2 years post graduation. How will the FG recoup from students who don't graduate eventually ?

Also, for those who get 1 to 2 extra year, will FG keep paying their school fees for those extra years ?

TrebleChamp:
You get time.....

I don leave am o

mostob:
The whole issue was not based on the story Auba narrated here. I remember Arteta saying he has a Dozier of all Auba's shortcomings. Even from this story, there are still loopholes.

1. Why didn't Auba communicate his decision to arrive late with Arteta?

2. You said you want to go and pick your mother but we saw the pictures of you getting a new tattoo on the internet.

3. You couldn't do Covid test before joining up with the squad thereby exposing others to the virus.

Auba clearly doctored his version of the story to favor himself; as u rightly said his story doesn't add up.

TemporaryHansel:
Sisi Yemi, a renowned Yoruba chef/cook was stopped from voting in Lagos because the thugs thought she's igbo. Many other yorubas that don't have countless tribal marks experienced the same thing.

He knows these things, he's just looking for who to tire out with never ending merry-go-round argument

raumdeuter:
So if in 2040 a young person comes on the internet and said Ibos were prevented from voting in 2023 using your posts as reference, will that be a true state of affair?

Thats why we need to not promote falsehood for sake of posterity

The evidences abound everywhere. Different newspaper wrote about it, I didn't author those news articles.

U can go and take it up with those print media that wrote stories about it if u feel it is falsehood. I'm done with this.

Unlimited22:
There are some arguments that you should not bother engaging in.

Raumdeuter, airmark and Oasis007 will never not support APC, and they will never understand the present situation of the country because they don't live it every day.
Larride does, and even though he's a card-carrying APC member, his opinions are more balanced because e dey feel the heat day by day.


Just don't worry yourself my G. There's no point.

Normally I don't worry myself about these things, but sometimes u just can't help it. Especially when u think sometimes in the future some younger people may use some of these viewpoints(if left unchallenged ) as the true state of things when they are not.

raumdeuter:
It is fake news because Ibos were not stopped from voting

There were pockets of violence all over the country and no particular group was targetted

its the same modus everytime when Lagos will destroy properties of every ethnic group but the narrative will be that ibo properties are destroyed

We have a duty to correct fake news and falsehoods

Before you go I have more videos of violence by LP supporters targeting APC supporters in the SE which further dents sod09 claims that you came to defend

In all things lets learn to be fair

Lolz.

I see what u are trying to do, but it is well. I am not going to litter this place with several media publications on how ethnic-related violence marred the election. Even Yorubas were prevented from voting because their attackers assumed they were Igbo's.

It happened not just in one LGA but all over Lagos. U can try to deny it and gaslight as much u want but the evidences abound on the internet.

U are free to carry on with ur agenda sha. It is well

raumdeuter:
While still going through this, I will get you videos of how gunmen shot and KILLED Osita Iheme brother because he was riding in a car with APC flag on it. That happened in the SE

So bring your receipts

Egbon no use mention kill me . If u didnt claim sod’s statement of fact was fake news , u wouldn’t even have seen my mention .

I only took it upon myself to prove it is not fake news and that’s where it ends. Those that want to be measuring election violence for election violence will come along to continue the discussion with u.

raumdeuter:
I have more so when you have time watch these

Pls don't run away

Its the duty of responsible Nigerians to tackle fake news

One LIE that has lingered for too long since the elections, is that it was free and fair in the SE.

People who wanted to vote APC were threatened.

Those who were bold to go out were bullied and beaten by Obidients

They will tell you about Mc Oluomo and be hush about this pic.twitter.com/GXjz7qx5hA

— God's own (@t0sinadeda) April 12, 2024

I are not tackling anything . Somebody said people were prevented for election because they were Igbo , u called it fake news .

One would’ve thought u will agree with him and then point it to him that same happened elsewhere . Instead u kept calling it fake news till evidence .

Now u are ready to accept it is not fake news. My job is done .

I don’t condone any form of election violence and I believe those in Lagos and those in anambra that attacked people cos of electoral choices should not be defended .

Have u seen me defending anybody carrying out election violence ?

raumdeuter:
1. She is not Ibo she is Bayelsan.
2. Nothing was done to Ibos, Ibos voted whoever they wanted which was why Obi won every Ibo dominated state and region
3. There were people who were molested in the SE because they were not going to vote for Obi

So claiming something was done to Ibo's specifically in the last election is Fable and in the realm of Nigeria vs India

Well meaning Nigerians should not join to propagate these outrageous claims and not join some people in shouting wolf every time

That Bayelsa was actually a trap . I know u will try to turn Amala .😂

This is an Igbo guy who is actually an APC member but dem burst him head and his APC member could not give him immunity simply cos he was Igbo

These things happened, u can’t wish it away . Thank God these things were documented cos na so una go Dey deny for future

raumdeuter:
Exactly
We need to ensure that fake news does not thrive cos na so fable of Nigeria vs India take start.

Every Ibo person on this thread voted their choice. In Ibo states Obi the son of the soil got an average of 90% of votes cast

In Nigeria Asiwaju Tinubu won free and fair while Obi finished 3rd

Which Fable are u trying to kill off?

This is Jennifer Efidi(A Bayelsan), she was attacked at the polling unit in Surulere because the APC thugs thought she was Igbo and was not going to vote for Tinubu.

These things happened, this one no be Nigeria Vs India

raumdeuter:
Same with Berlin Olympics when PLO went to Berlin olympics village to kill Israeli athletes

Actually a 2 state solution one of the best deals ever was offered Arafat at Oslo accords, He said it was good but if he accepted this deal, he would be killed when he gets home

He knows that the 2 state solution is just Bullshittt, they know what they want, Israel know what they want. A section of the public are the ones burying their head in the sand thinking Hamas wants anything called 2 state

It is countries like Israel that fits these people . They match violence for violence , no time for falling for cheap propagandist blackmail .

nihilistjnr:
Let's not actually forget that the officially recognised Palestinian government were literally chased out of Gaza by Hamas who have no interest in any bloody 2-state solution.

It's pretty obvious to anybody who has a brain exactly what the problem is - we see the same issue pop up whenever a group of people decide they want Sharia government. There is no jewish government in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon, Borno State, Chibok, Sambissa Forest, Mali etc.

It is the Muslim Sharia governments that will end up picking a fight with whoever has a different interpretation of Sharia. Today Iran is fighting Saudi. In Gaza Hamas are fighting Fateh. In Sambissa Iswap are fighting Boko. In Afghanistan right now, Isis is fighting Taliban. In Syria, Isis were fighting Al Qaeda. In Iran that is literally ruled by a Mullah, Isis still went to suicide bomb a funeral and kill 100s of people this year. Suicide bombers bombing Suicide bombers to death on the regular.

2 state solution is not the cause of the problem. Anything Sharia, Anything Jihad - there can never be peace

I really don’t know what makes them think that if they couldn’t defeat a young Israel nation in 1948 with a coalition army of Arab states that they can do that in 2023 with ragtag Hamas .

They probably thought hiding behind innocent civilians would save them against the Israeli forces but they obviously didn’t know Netanyahu would not give them that victory of rejoicing over the October 7th carnage .

U slap person for face, u wan Dey control how the person go react to the slap. U wan make the person just poke u for ur nose and move on. E be things

raumdeuter:
Hamas does not want a 2 state solution, They know this. What they want is from River to the Sea total wipeout of Israel. Its in their own charter written. So when something is written in their charter how will they claim something else
Its when hand begin dey touch them that you will see people start screaming for 2 state solution

When they give them small space they forget 2 state solution and try to wipe out Israel

I was watching the news in 2005 when Ariel Sharon ordered all Israelis out of Gaza, Many Israelis did not forgive him for it

Now what have they done with the Gaza they conceded in 2005? First Hamas assasinated all the Fatah leaders in Gaza and started their own campaigns sending rockets, sending suicide bombers to Israel

Why are the 600k Gazans not taking up arms to fight the 40k Hamas if they do not agree with launching rockets and terrorizing Israelis?

You know Israel allows Gazans to come into Israel and work but some of these workers will strap themselves with bombs, knives, with the aim of killing Israelis

Hamas killed 1400 kidnapped over 200. with promises to continue doing that until it wipes out Israel

That’s why I find people making arguments for Palestinians as being intellectually dishonest . They quote a part of history they believe will evoke sympathetic emotions in their target audience .

I read “ 90 minutes at Entebee “ as a young boy . Palestine has been at this terrorism business for a long time . If I remember correctly they used to call themselves PFLP and PLO. They’ve been hijacking planes and doing all sorts as far back as then.

All of which hey are doing after their progenitors refused a 2-state solution that was offered on a platter . They chose the war path right from inception and now someone in Nigeria is asking for Israel to remove boot from their neck . Unto which levels ?

Modern day Palestinians and their sympathizers should be cussing their grandfathers in the grave . The 2 state solution they now cry for on a daily basis was on the table as far back as the 1940’s .

Instead the Arab Palestinians kicked against it and went to war in 1948; a war which Israel won while defeating the Arab coalition along with Palestine .

When one’s grandparents decided to be foolish , e Dey turn prince to slave .

airmark:
I thought you are a responsible being. Sorry, for my blunder.

A responsible adult will face whoever he’s having issues with and not drag an uninterested third party into their feud .

larride:
Bros not all land in Epe are reserved for farming activities now. It is govt duty to make sure that the information about designated and gazzete lands are made publicly available through the ministry if land, it is your own duty as a citizen to make sure you are not buying land that has already been gazzete for public use.

The govt has it's own responsibilities and the citizens has their own responsibilities also. The govt will not do the work of the citizens and vice versa.

There is a process to undertake when buying land to make sure you are buying a legit land which will involve land surveyor, a lawyer and the likes, these form part of what you will use to get a CofO of the land. You can't keep absolving the citizens of their own responsibilities and trying to pin it on the govt later. If you want to buy land anywhere you must go to the ministry of land, it's part of the process.

There's a reason why they say there's no ignorance in law.

I’m not absolving the citizens of their duty .

Look at it this way: The last time Tokunbo Wahab was lamenting the cost they expend in pulling those structures down and at a point he was suggesting maybe it will get to a point when people will be compelled to pay for their any buildings to be pulled down . That is to tell u that they expend significant cost on the demolishing exercise.

How much does a 2-minute radio jingle in Yoruba and English cost on radio Lagos ? Don’t u think it is more economical to run those radio jingles to warn the general public against development of land in such locations than spending multiples of that on demolishing exercise ?