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iamoyindamola:Don't mind them. |
raumdeuter:Once they release those guys, forget it the government is not going to hunt them down. My fear is for those terrorists that get released not to cause bigger havoc later in the society having regained their freedom through this exchange of hostages. I think after the dust settles on this issue; our government across various levels need to have some serious discussion and take some hard decisions. 1. They need to fast track and give priorities to terrorism cases in our law court. Let suspected terrorists be tried ASAP and let those found guilty be convicted within the shortest possible time. 2. Let's have a law that prescribes death sentence for convicted terrorists/bandits/kidnappers whether they killed their hostage or not. Make the crime a capital offence that attracts capital punishment 3. Let it be illegal for any state governor to refuse to sign the death warrants of convicted bandits/kidnappers/terrorists. Over time a lot of governors have refused to sign death warrants of prisoners in their state. I think the last governor that signed a prisoner's death warrant was Adams Oshiomole while he was governor. Anybody who would not sign the death warrant of a prisoner should be impeached as governor. It should be a very solid ground for impeachment, and the house of assembly should not hesitate to declare a governor' seat vacant if he doesn't sign a convict's death warrant within a week or two. I believe it's because these guys stay in prison for years, that's why their comrades will be emboldened to kidnap people and be using them as bargaining chip for their release like these yeye terrorists are doing with these Oyo victims. |
raumdeuter:I've never understood the logic behind it. I've always seen news of Governors demolishing houses of suspected criminals; I think Wike did something like that while he was governor, the Current Edo Governor demolished houses of Suspected Cultists, I think one or two governors in the east did something similar in the past.....I don't just get the whole idea sha. It's not like dmolishing the house will deter anybody from committing crime in the future. To me, it's just unnecessary waste of resources demolishing such properties. |
iamoyindamola:So they have uploaded yet another video with strong internet and our security agents have not been able to locate & rescue the victims by adding one or two together? Na wa o. |
raumdeuter:Exactly, you know the drill. There are more towns with mixture of religions in the southwest. The fact that there are other religions other than Islam that will always oppose the whole Sharia arrangements, it won't be as easy as it is in the north at all. For every Prof Ishaq Oloyede advocating Sharia , there is Prof Wande Abimbola and other renowned Professors practising Isese who would oppose it with intellect |
Amigoos1:The bold is not true! If you say Muslims are a majority in Ilorin, one can agree with you. Muslims are not majority in Osun and Oyo. There are Chirstians, Muslims and Traditional Worshippers in the Southwest. There is no state Muslims can claim to be Majority when there are adherents of the other two religions who are more than Muslims . Then other two religions (Christianity and African Traditional Religion ) will always resist full blown Islamization like u put it. Maybe you've not been seeing How Adherents of ATR (Onisese) have been everywhere on TikTok and Twitter battling things out with Some Extremist Muslims in recent times. Go to TikTok or Facebook and search "MSBaba" ; he's one of the ATR guys pushing back against planned Sharia introduction in the Southwest. |
raumdeuter:I support the idea of vigilantes and community organized security being armed to safeguard their communities against any external attacks. I also support communities working in conjuction with law enforcement to combat crime. I however do not buy the idea of individuals being allowed to own guns which we won't have control over in the long run. Look at what is happening in the US, teenagers will take their parents' guns to school and shoot their mates due to one teenage quarrel or another. I don't want to imagine guns being legalized for citizens ; imagine all those secondary school students fight they use knife and broken bottle to fight. Imagine students of Ikeja Grammar school and Oshodi community high school fighting with students weirding Their parents' automatic weapons. |
raumdeuter:This one passes Christian speaking with the mind of a western liberal. Hardly will u see any northern Christian making a case for Sharia not only in the north, but also advocating for southern Muslims to have Sharia introduced in the south. I mean a northern Christian who has seen the excesses of the Sharia system and the whole chaos it has caused over time in the north won't be online saying Sharia is good for the southerners too. Haba! He's saying Ishaq Oloyede, dem MURIC and co are clamoring for Sharia in the south and that they deserve to have it since it's part of their religion. |
raumdeuter:I watched the video and from my understanding what's he's talking about is community policing /having local vigilante as the first line of defence. He's not advocating for arming all citizens like you've been advocating all these while. His suggestion actually makes sense and some community in the south already have that. There are some areas in this Lagos that have armed guards. There are areas you can't get into once it's 10pm except u are a resident. Like where I stay currently, we have so many gates that are mounted by guards whom you will need to get past before u can access the residents. I remember the night I had to rush my wife to the hospital for the birth of our baby around 1am....We passed like 3 different gates manned by armed guards on the way driving out of our area to link main road. That was the day I saw the actual effect of the security bills we've been paying. |
iamoyindamola:Na mouth all of them get. Once they take the job of coaching, they understand managing a team is not as easy as it seems. Especially ex-players who at one or time or the other see their ex-coaches as not doing enough, not having the winners mentality, etc.....Na when dem start coaching themselves dem dey learn big lesson. That's when they understand those coaches were far better than they will ever be. |
Fkforyou:We conceded one earlier in the Champions league . I've forgotten the team we played, but I remember Ben White had his arm stretched out away from his body when a shot was played and the ref awarded a PK against us in that particular Champions league group stage match. That was the only PK we conceded prior to that PSG match. We really had a solid defense this season; not just good defenders but defenders who avoided serious fouls at all cost within the 18 yard area |
izzou:Exactly ! Even for Kebbi , the Christians from Zuru and other predominantly Christian parts of Kebbi cannot stand some of these things he was terming "respect".....Same with a friend I met in camp who is from Jaba tribe in Kaduna. If you see the way those guys talk about northern Muslims and their excesses/ domineering depravity of the non-Muslims' rights, you can conclude Monerozzi is either a northern Muslim or a Christian Northerner suffering from severe Stockholm syndrome. I want to beleive he's not more Christian than people like Bishop Kukah. As tolerant as Catholics are known to be amongst all Christian denomination, the man has had to voice out severally about the oppression the minority Christians suffer over there in the north. One person wan come dey gaslight us for here say dem supposed dey respect the majority Muslim. SMH |
izzou:That's what is making everything quite annoying. Where I used live before, we have a field where we play ball ; we call that field "Church and mosque field". That is because close to the field are two plots of land, one plot belongs to church which has its building on the land and the second plot has a community mosque on it. The two houses of worship coexist side by side. That can only happen down here in the south and can never ever be "allowed" in the north by northern Muslims. |
izzou:I also served in Kebbi, the village I served is close to Yauri. We always go from the village I served to Yauri market to buy things. There was a gist that the Winners Chapel in Yauri was being built close the main road that enters Yaruri if u are coming from Niger state into Kebbi state. The church was already built to lintel level before the Muslim community rose and asked for the construction to be put on hold. They kicked because they believe it is improper for a Church to be located close to the road at the enterance of the town. They can't stomach the idea that a church will be the first thing visitors will see when they enter the town. So had the winners church forfeit their building and decided to allocate another land to them which is off that road (Inside inside). As at 2014, the uncompleted church still stands there while the new church had since been competed at the new site. They later named that area Ungwa Church (Which means church area) and that was the only place they allowed churches to be built. If u go there u will see CAC, Winners, RCCG, MFM, C & S, and even Olumba Olumba . The downside of that decision is if there's a religious crisis on a sunday morning, they can literally wipe off the Christian community if they descend on that area with weapons unannounced. How can we know all these things and somebody will now be gaslighting us online? As much I hate everything about NYSC, I am actually grateful for the fact that it made one travel and see reality of things in some other parts of the country. The realities u will never believe if someone else was relaying it to you .....as in you will think they are embellishing the story. |
monerozi5590:The way u always lie shamelessly when it comes to defending these things dey always amaze me. Anybody who don't know better will say we are badgering you and being unfair in the way kept insisting you are being insincere on the whole "respect" thing. Yesterday you were saying there are places in Kano and Kaduna where u will drink beer to stupor... Blah... Blah.... Just don't buy or sell alcohol in Muslim area...blah... Blah. The attached screenshot is from 2022 when Hisbah police attempted to raid a Christian area to confiscate bottles of beer which nobody is forcing into their mouth o. If that's not the highest level of intolerance, I don't know what it is. But u want to lecture us on tolerance and respect.
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DeadPresidents:When u point out some of these things, they will say u are Islamophobia like that article shared the other day. Imagine make person dey boldly write say it's Islamophobic people that are calling terrorists Muslims when they are not. Imagine. |
chrisooblog:I also don't think it's a script, I think they were genuinely rescued. It's just that the rescue efforts efforts buttressed our point all along that it's lack of willpower that's made security forces not to rescue the various kidnap victims amongst the common man over time. If they can locate these kidnappers within days and rescue the victims unharmed, it only means they can do the same for the various victims across the country but they are somewhat not motivated to do so. All those excuses they've been giving all along don't hold water anymore |
GloriousGbola:Imagine.... As if anybody is forcing them to take alcohol. While I was in the university, I have two close friends who are Muslims and don't take alcohol. They go with us to social gatherings, tbey don't take alcohol and they don't impose their choice on others. Very tolerant and always minding their business. There's a mutual respect between us all..... Even the Muslims amongst us who take alcohol, they don't start calling them names or tell them they will burn in hell. |
raumdeuter:The drug issue has always puzzled me. They don't drink alcohol that will intoxicate u for hours and then wear off after some time.... But they abuse drugs that is capable of making them mad over time or lead to their death sef. If you go to any major market here in Lagos where northerners dominate, they will always have one unofficial drug market somewhere close where they get all sorts of hard drugs. Alaba rago for example, if u see the kind drugs on display those guys sell and abuse ehn.... I wonder why they would be against alcohol that is legal but embrace drugs that are illegal and not easily available OTC. As regards marrying off underage girls, I believe that's the kind of "privilege" some extremist southerners want to enjoy hence why they ate backing calls for Sharia in the south. They want to be able to marriage underage without being looked at with disdain by members of the society. |
@Raumdeuter hear wetin all these Ilorin Alfa dey talk. Imagine the punishment for drinking alcohol.... Person come say make we embrace Sharia in the south. 🤦♂️ /video/1?s=46 |
A40:As in..... His takes are just so annoying! He wants Sharia to be introduced in the south west because of marriage disputes. Who told him there are no customary courts hearing marital dispute cases down here in the south? If u sample opinion of Muslims on this thread, majority of them will kick against Sharia in the southwest bar a few extremists here and there. People just want to enjoy they life and practise their religion in peace while living at peace with their neighbor. Not that they will start compelling non Muslims to fast during ramadan |
monerozi5590:Good to know u have stepped down on Ur agenda for Sharia in the southwest because of south west Muslims. Most of the Muslims I know down here in the south west actually Do not want Sharia anywhere near the south at all. U people should keep it down there and enjoy it like u are claiming to be enjoying it. |
raumdeuter:Noted! Ur experience seems to corroborate Karl Toriola's assertion then. |
raumdeuter:Exactly! They will just keep doing their own criminal activities under the cover of everyone thinking it's Fulani herdsmen as usual |
monerozi5590:Yesterday u were here advocating for Sharia to be introduced to south west because there are Muslims in the south west who may need to apply Sharia law to their marriage disputes, inheritance matters, etc. We told u we don't want Sharia because we've seen the kind of excesses that comes with introduction of Sharia in the core north. You counter argued that Sharia in the north doesn't compel non Muslims to adhere to Sharia. This morning I brought evidence of an incident that happened in the core north where Muslims arebtrying to force Islamic tenets on a non Muslim who wasn't fasting during Ramadan. We are simply telling u introduction of Sharia will only empower religious extremists to disrupt the peace that has been enjoyed in the society up to this moment. Evidences abound in the north. Deborah was burnt to death in Sokoto for blasphemy. I know u will say that is also a crime and that the extremists who committed the crime to be brought to justice. Guess what? When tbey were arrested and arraigned, association of Muslim lawyers dispatched dozens of Muslim lawyers who stood for the criminals in court. They were left off the hook and Deborah's blood still cry for justice till date. You cannot gaslight some of us and claim it's because we southerners look are northerners with one kind eyes. We've met non Muslim northerners who are victims of the the Sharia system and they regret the introduction of Sharia in the north. In that vein, we southerners will resist every plan to introduce Sharia down here cos we are not ready to lose our freewill. |
monerozi5590:When everything fails RESORT TO GASLIGHTING! 🤦♂️ You are saying this is how southerners think about northerners. We are saying we've been to the north too and we see non Muslims complain about the same things we are complaining about. They do not have that freedom to live freely like the constitution guarantees them. Pray tell, is it southerners that attacked this non-muslim in the attached screenshot for eating during Ramadan in Kaduna in 2016? What part of the northern Muslim culture was he not "respecting"?
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Sportsweb:Exactly! Once some local Ogun State or Lagos state criminal sees how Fulani kidnappers/bandits run their kidnapping unchecked with families paying rasome for fear of their loved ones getting killed ; they too will just adopt the Fulani guys' method and even dress like them sef to get their own criminal enterprise running. That's why I say Buhari's government actually had a chance to have quashed these guys right from day one when tbey started way back, but he lacked that will power. He was busy saying Fulanis are herders and do not have any business carting out kidnap for ransome. It's just unfortunate things have escalated much beyond that point it can be easily dealt with |
Abeg people residing abroad ( Canada, US, UK, Germany, Australia, France, New Zealand, Russia, etc) who are on this thread, can you please fact check MTN Nigeria CEO on his claim in this video? He claims unlimited mobile data doesn't exist anywhere in the world except u are paying a fortune like $400 per month. Is this true?
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[quote author=Ellexy post=139639185]How embellished is it now? ones are obviously political kidnappers and not terrorists. Whoever sent them would be boarding a plane put of the country as we speak. Imagine kidnapping a minister's family member and u keep them in a house within the same region.....maybe these ones just want to use the kidnap rattle Adelabu a bit so as to make him back off his proposed plan to petition the whole outcome of the governorship primaries he lost. One thing is sure, these kidnappers their life down end already. |
afrodoc:That guy doesn't know what he's saying, he's just using words anyhow without understanding what those words mean. If some of us didn't leave the south at all, one would think he knows what he's saying and that it's the media that is blowing things out of proportion in the north. It's just so annoying seeing him make light some of these things that people have lost their lives over despite doing absolutely nothing to deserve such cruel fate |
monerozi5590:Guy stop this thing abeg! U keep saying Muslim northern dominated area as if the areas not dominated by Muslims are spared from Hisbah's high handed moral policing. We see pictures and videos of Hisbah police randomly picking young men off the streets cutting their hair because they believe the hair style they have on are not morally acceptable in the society. These guys are picked up whether they are Muslim or Christian or irreligious sef. The trucks of beer Hisbah destroys every fortnight, is Nigeria Breweries sending it to the Muslim dominated areas? Are they not alcohol meant for the non Muslim residents who desire to drink beer? You will go to some hotels in the north and they will tell u they don't sell alcohol even to a guest because of fear of Hisbah coming to burst their hotel. You will hang Ur hand around Ur fellow corper's neck as a show of affection in public and u will see how everyone looks at u in disgust. Do you even understand that a public space is where u can exercise Ur fundamental human rights like freedom of movement, freedom of association, etc all of which is entrenched in the constitution. Even the freedom of religion, these Sharia states infringe on it by dictating where you can build a church and where you can't. For your information, the constitution supercedes any state law be it Sharia or customary law sef. So some of those nonsense u termed as "respecting the northern Muslim culture" that clashes with the position of 1999 constitution of Nigeria, the state government are actually acting in contravention of the law. A person who is nit brainwashed would speak against these things and not celebrate them. |
afrodoc2:He has actually been brainwashed to the extent that he cowers to oppression and calls it "respecting the northern Muslims culture". When we mention some of the bizarre realities some of us lived through in the course of our one year mandatory NYSC service in the core north, he tries to make light of it. Like it's normal. I believe he's like that because he's been brainwashed even as a northern Christian he claims to be. Even the northern Christian and irreligious people some of us encountered and interacted with in our stay in the north, they complain about these things he termed "respecting the northern Muslim's culture". |
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