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jaybest90:
There's no overvoting anywhere, there are cases of bvas not reading voter's card and the voter will still proceed to vote, another case of replacing a malfunctioning bvas halfway.. Everything is caused by inec

Tenses:
Who's willing to bet. Obi is winning this mock up by 40% winning margin?

ochejoseph:
An Atiku Presidency will be very responsive to the yearnings of the people

List of Designated Polling Units for Nationwide Mock Accreditation, Scheduled for Saturday 4th February 2023.

Click the link below for details 👇
https://inecnigeria.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/PUs-For-Mock-Accreditation-4.pdf

Gabrielwilliams:
Good day Guys,

Help me clarify an issue. My friend was telling me about how he had sex at the back seat of his car and the following week, his engine knocked. Another bro said he had sex in his car and his brand new car started developing different faults.
Let me ask, is it true that sex in the car damages your car? Kindly share your story or opinions about this. I just bought a car.

Brendaniel:
That is what I am still saying, they will keep scheming as long as they see a loophole, why not just avoid all the scheming and let them know that all their efforts to scheme will be in vain and the real voters will still be counted, the law will make them to keep attacking opposition strongholds because there are too many loop holes to get the polling units cancelled...

the law should just be changed simple...

BluntCrazeMan:
You can always say that again.


It was Jonathan's wife.
This time, the so-called “President in the APC-packaging” wants to be the jester himself

Brendaniel:
That is still what I am telling you, why allow violence take place, must people die because election is taking place, if everybody is aware that at the end any over voting done will be removed, I will not be bothered if I am on the queue, do what you want I know at the end what you do will be a waste of time, only accredited voters will be counted by the INEC server, so must we go through the hard way to get things done....

Why don't we make voting easy, do you know the tension everyone will have at each polling unit that their votes can be cancelled also remember that anywhere there is electoral violence the polling unit can still be cancelled, also if you beat up the compromised INEC official.

Why not just avoid all these issues and make voters relaxed and reduce tension and violence..

Brendaniel:
This is not a deadly virus disease, this is an election, that is why I asked, do you know if the INEC official in your polling unit is already compromised, so is it the voters fault in the polling unit, why make people's efforts waste in things they have no control over....

Brendaniel:
Quarantine is different from deportation, deportation is total cancellation, quarantine is to hold, do proper treatment and then release, that is still he same thing I am saying, quarantine the entire polling units affected do the deductions(treatment and inspection) and release the valid ones( non infected) and then you can deport the ones that are infected, you will not just deport everybody.

Brendaniel:
You must tell me which party the 6 votes went for, because they voted for a party or parties first, that was how they were able to know there was over voting without the BVAS accreditation, so the question is wrong in itself...

Brendaniel:
The judgement is like saying that if a passenger from a particular plane was caught with an invalid passport then you should deport the entire passengers that came with him in the plane, that we are not sure about all the passengers, does it make any sense if you can simply remove the affected passenger and deport and allow the rest go in, if such happens to you in the airport and you were deported because of a particular passenger or a few passengers even if there is a law in that country for it, won't you see it as an erroneous law?, how would you feel, so you just wasted your time money and resources and did not still achieve your aim because of another person or people.

that is just the same thing here....

Brendaniel:
Oga what are you saying, how can you cancel the entire votes when you can simply remove the over votes that went for any of the party involved, that is what the tribunal is supposed to do since we can identify the over votes to any party involved, do you now what this judgement will do to other voters that took the stress to stand under the sun and did the right thing, the law makes them look like people who just wasted their time trying to do the right thing in the same polling unit that was affected.

The judgement is like saying that if a passenger from a particular plane was caught with an invalid passport then you should deport the entire passengers that came with him in the plane, that we are not sure about all the passengers, does it make any sense if you can simply remove the affected passenger and deport and allow the rest go in, if such happens to you in the airport and you were deported because of a particular passenger or a few passengers even if there is a law in that country for it, won't you see it as an erroneous law?, how would you feel, so you just wasted your time money and resources and did not still achieve your aim because of another person or people.

that is just the same thing here....

Brendaniel:
After finding out the method used for the judgement on the election tribunal that gave victory to Oyetola over Adeleke, I would say it is a recipe for disaster, the method applied was cancelling all the votes of a polling unit because of over voting in that particular polling unit.


The questions I ask are:

1. As it happened that there were over voting in various polling units in the Osun election, what if each opposition connives to perpetrate over voting in polling units in each opposition strong holds?

2. What then is the use for BVAS in over voting if after the BVAS is able to identify the number of over votes only to end up cancelling all votes(valid) and over votes(invalid) ? That is like throwing away a baby with the bath water.

3. If there is an election tribunal like this and a rerun takes place, what if the same over voting keeps occurring over and over, would they keep repeating the election tribunal process and back to rerun again?

In my opinion, the law is just an error or a purposeful scheme to rig an election using what I call reverse voting
Just simply tamper with your opposition strong holds and invalidate their votes, So we might be having a case where a carefully selected and protected minority will determine winners of an election instead of the majority carrying the votes.


Implications:

1. It will make elections become very dirty because politicians will be all about scheming to invalidate votes in opposition strong holds.

2. It will make the voters lose confidence in the electoral process, because a voter will not be sure if his vote will be invalidated or not by someone else scheming with a politician in his/her polling unit.

3. It will make voters wear out easily and may cause voter apathy when you have reruns after stressful elections, thereby reducing voters turn-up in reruns.

4. It may not reflect the true will of the people and also reduce the total number of voter participation, just like the Osun election tribunal, the total number of votes cast for both PDP and APC after the cancellation doesn't reflect the true will of the people to declare Oyetola the winner.

5. Elections will cost more because of Tribunal, reruns and time wasting.

6. It could lead to anarchy and total chaos, like in some volatile states in the north where they riot over political results, just imagine after election and INEC says they have cancelled over 20,000 polling units across the north which were all stronghold of a particular candidate, because of over voting of less than 2000 voters, imagine what will happen in the aftermath of such news.

Solution:

In situations of over voting, Why not just deduct the invalid votes(over votes) and count the rest, the BVAS already identifies the number of over votes(invalid votes), doing so, INEC will avoid a lot of election tribunals, scheming by politicians, reduce cost of doing reruns, make more accurate results, increase voters confidence, reduce time wasting, reflect the true will of the people and avoid anarchy.

Brendaniel:
Just remove the over voting, because if you claim that the over votes were added, there must be a party those over votes went for, remove it from the party that it went for, you can't tell me you were able to detect over votes and don't now the party the over votes went for because they voted for a party, remove the vote from the part they voted for, the thumbprint is there, that is what made it over votes in the first place that BVAS did not accredit....

Pwettylinda:
Thiefnubuu is a disgrace to humanity

DrAkpamudehe:
Unfortunately, most of his supporters are very idiotic in thinking. But fortunately, Obi will never win

Brendaniel:
The law will only cause more problems, you don't cancel a whole polling unit when BVAS can tell you the number of invalid votes, read this and see why
https://www.nairaland.com/7544115/implication-osun-election-tribunal-anarchy#120437236

LegendHero:
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5) APC applied for the BVAS report and Form EC8AS to file their petition days after the winner was declared.

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Copied: Musibau

Brendaniel:
What criteria was used to deduct the over voting?

UPDATE:
How would you cancel the entire votes in the polling unit because of a few wrong votes, if the BVAS still identified the number of over votes, why not just delete only the over votes and count the rest, Tinubu is trying to use the BVAS to rig election...

it is a wrong form of deduction, they should have deducted the over votes only...

garfield1:
You know experience is the best teacher.they will learn

garfield1:
There is nothing like "direct" win.dont add or subtract.
Subsection one says if a winner wasn't validly elected on any ground at all,there should be fresh elections within 90 days.take note of fresh elections
Subsection 2 says if if the winner wasn't qualified,the next runner up is declared winner.no rerun.
Subsection 3 says if the winner wasn't validly elected,that is he did not score a majority of lawful or valid votes as in the case of osun,the person who scored it will be declared winner.there is no provision for a rerun,supplementary.it is either a fresh elections or a winner emerges.since cancellations were partial,there cannot be any election. [i]the only authority with power to cancel results and order rerun based on overvoting is inec[/b]