₦airaland Forum

ondo_boi: indeed blood, its a small world .

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warrior101: It takes one to know one B-)

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ayobase: Left for me, its either one hates Obasanjo and one wants him crucufied or one wanna be a good judge about this!

I'm very sure we would have supported if ALUU was acted upon as supposed!

Culled from http://www.channelstv.com/home/2012/11/20/media-chat-you-are-wrong-about-odi-obasanjo-tells-jonathan/

“Five policemen and four soldiers were killed by a group of Niger Delta militants when they tried to enter the town of Odi in Bayelsa State in order to effect their arrest. This happened in 1999. After the brutal killing of these security personnel, President Olusegun Obasanjo asked the then Governor of Bayelsa State, Governor Alamieyeseigha, to identify, locate, apprehend and hand over the perpetrators of that crime.

“The Governor said that he was unable to do so and President Obasanjo, as the Commander-in-Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces, took the position that security personnel could not be killed with impunity under his watch without a strong and appropriate response from the Federal Government. Consequently he sent the military in, to uproot and kill the terrorists and to destroy their operational base which was the town of Odi. The operation was carried out with military precision and efficiency and it’s objectives were fully achieved. The terrorists were either killed and those that were not killed fled their operational base in Odi. They were uprooted, weakened, demoralised and completely dispersed. That was the purpose of the whole exercise and that purpose was achieved. The truth is that the killing of security agents and soldiers with impunity by the Niger Delta militants virtually stopped after the operation in Odi and remained at a bare minimum right up until the time that President Obasanjo left power eight years later in 2007. I advise those that doubt this to go and check the records.

“The same thing was done in Zaki-Biam in Benue State in the North-central zone of Nigeria in 2001 after 19 soldiers were murdered in cold blood and then brutally beheaded by some terrorists from that area. Again after the Federal Government’s strong military response in Zaki Biam, the killing of security personnel with impunity stopped. The objectives of the military operations in both Odi and Zaki-Biam were to stop such killings, to eliminate and deal a fatal blow to those that perpetrated them and to discourage those that may seek to carry out such barbarous butchery and mindless violence in the future.

“Those were the objectives and nothing more and clearly those objectives were achieved. There is no doubt that after Odi, there were still unrest, agitations, protests, kidnappings and the blowing up and sabotage of oil pipelines in the Niger Delta area but there were hardly any more attacks on or killing of soldiers and security personnel by the terrorists and militants because they knew that to do that would attract a swift and forceful reaction and terrible retribution from the Nigerian military.
Invasions objective achieved

“To stop and deter those attacks and killings was the objective of President Obasanjo and that objective was achieved. President Goodluck Jonathan was therefore in error when he said that Odi did not solve the problem of killings in the Niger Delta area by the Niger Delta militants. Not only did it stop the killings but it is also an eloquent testimony of how to deal with terrorists, how to handle those that kill our security personnel with impunity and how to deter militants from killing members of our civilian population and thinking that they can get away with it. If President Obasanjo had not taken that strong action at that time, many more of our civilian population and security personnel would have been killed by the Niger Delta militants between 1999 and 2007.

“By doing what he did at Odi and Zaki-Biam, President Obasanjo saved the lives of many and put a stop to the killings and terrorism that had taken root in the Niger Delta area prior to that time.”

The former Aviation minister also said Mr Obasanjo’s comments last week on how to solve the Boko Haram problem were misconstrued and misrepresented in certain quarters.

“He never said that the Odi treatment should be applied to Boko Haram or that such action is appropriate in these circumstances. What he said was that a solution ought to have been found or some sort of action ought to have been taken sooner rather than allow the problem to fester over time like a bad wound and get worse.

“There can be no doubt that he was right on this because, according to President Jonathan’s own Chief of Army Staff, no less than 3000 people have been killed by Boko Haram in the last two years alone. That figure represents approximately the same number of people that were killed by the IRA in Northern Ireland and the British mainland in the 100 years that the war between them and British lasted and before peace was achieved between the two sides.

“The same number of casualties that the IRA inflicted on the people of the United Kingdom in 100 years, is the same number of casualties that Boko Haram have managed to inflict on our people in just two. This is unacceptable and it is very disturbing. The Federal Government must cultivate the courage and the political will to stop the killings by Boko Haram and to find a permanent solution to the problem.”

. Most Reasonable, sane and apt! How can some pple decide a matter of national security with an action to curb and end terrorism , and evil incursion is to b considered an act of geniciede, even wen we hate, criticise or dislike certain pple or elements, objectivity shouldn't leave our reasoning.... Another attempt by CPC to stir up strife for political means.. National security issues should b treated as such. If our president had taken such steps with close planning to make sure civilians are innocents, such acts by boko would have been long gone. Democracy or no Democracy, national security issues are to b treated with War time reasonings/ actions, which would in the long run save the country as a whole. America the master and agitator of democracy know this... Such insurgents wouldn't c the light of day... Bless u once again the poster of the talk I qouted, and other fair minded and objective analysts.

hulkmarcopolo: Men!!!! Why are we fighting over unspilt milk dat we haven't seen. I know dat the patient dog was stupid for waiting for the bone while other dogs ate the flesh of the bone but in this NIMC case let us be patient. There are hundreds of jobs everyday so apply for them. U don't know which one might end up being ur dream job.NIMC no fit pay pass 60k - 70k, so why not apply for other jobs dan place our hopes only on NIMC job.

. NIMC pays abt 120k, that's as at wen it wasn't given much attention... Now, the FG is giving it special attention, its going higher than that... Just correcting u.. Thanks

Lmfao!! Aiye koor, Orun nii! Its so obvious dis guy is nofin nd lifted facts from diff sites abt these groups! Lmfao!

Well I heard d news nd watched it. Buh I was curious, buh more liht was shed wen my mum cooked meat nd I wanted to eat nd I laughed.... I saw sumfin, curiously, I asked ma mum wah it was nd she told me it was muscle on meat. C below..... Ulld only see wah u wana see!

Youhesh: You obviously watch too many movies. America is leaning towards self dependency when it comes to oil consumption. They are now taking from their reserves and in some years to come will be the number one oil producers in the world. They do not need your oil to serve the next generation. You really should stop watching those movies and stop having this neo-colonialist mentality been spread around. Develop yourself(Nigeria) and everyother person will follow.

I'm not talking as a movie watcher, buh rather, as an international relations studies student... Have u eva heard of the word psychological propaganda, that's wats being done wiv us. Not denying the presense of Boko haram tho, letting u knw the ideal situation, intrigues nd reactions as far as relation amongst nations is concerned

Here's wats happening nd wats gna happen.: The west, under wide nd secretive consultation are looking for an opportunity to burst Nigerias bubble, so they say, let's find a reason to get there, nd like they do wen it comes to other nations, they send a black ops team, for a clandestine operation, they kidnap their own pple, nd play under the pretext that it is boko haram, cos any reasonable man wld biliv that cos that's the most reasonable thing to biliv in the circumstance. Nd then they decide to work with the nigerian govt nd hereby deploy their troops, assert their stations, form a black site somewhere all for what? To monitor our govt, dictate through neo-colonialist means, nd also ensure a free flow of oil for the next American Generation., I said "American gen." because they are our First "friends"in times like that so theyld come up first nd welld welcome them wiv open hands... Ohhh, I love America... Asserting their power cos they are worthy of it..... I'm still waiting for that person who will come here to make a comment nd say I watch too many movies, nd illd laugh at such folly.....

I have gone through this thread nd I must say while its a welcome development,it pains me that we nigerians are full of problems nd complain about everything. No job, u complain, there's job, u complain about location and all! I can bet that many of those complaining of that did their registration late nd centers were all full. Oits ok sayin its far, buh blaming Nimc nd d govt again is so annoying. + the displacement from certain centers is cos they're tryna eliminate Godfathers that have made plans for certain centers for their pple nd they wana make sure this is fair for the common man nd u criticise them?..funny!

Now I biliv the only way we can stop regionalism nd regionalism in Nigeria is putting some things in place. Mite sound impossible, buh its possible. 1: scrap local government Or state of origin identification certificates so we know, wether u are in any part of the country, that region is rightfully urs. 2: any tribe cn contest in any state if u are loved by d pple, therefore, u don't have to be a Yoruba man to contest for oyo state govenorship, u don't havve to b an ibo to contest in Enugu. If Fashola made his bones in edo or abia, nd d pple like him, if he wants to contest for govenorship, by all means , giv him d way nd support him. Wen all these are put in place, welld knw we are all Nigerians and if any1 is in power, nobody shld complain of being sidelined, afterall who are u? Aren't u a Nigerian. Nofin like tribe. This is a possible solution to tribalism nd regionalism cries. Fanks!

@S3nnx2: pls any confirmation on the info?

Good friends, I'm still finking how possibble it is that any1 has been called tho I learnt they re almost thru buh are just stalling nd tryn to b careful wiv d results. Pls, let us knw if for certain sum1 was called so we cn make meaningful enquiries. Fanks. @kinnex, long time

bobbydbobo: Honestly, critical thinkers who annalyse the tweet et retweet wld knw that in fact, it was portrayin that in as much as Jesus Christ is upright, some pple wld still blindly throw their support for Jonathan nd Spoil Jesus's name cos they want to support Jonathan. The underlynin analysis there is he agrees that Jesus is upright nd was neva married,but dos pple wld find a way to mar his name.,Nd now I wonder y this is too much to see nd pple just chant War, Quarell and anyfin wen it comes to religion nd other things. I am a christian, so pls don't fink its an "unbiliver". But like Carl Max said, Religion is the Opium of the Masses. Religion has Marred nd affected our reasoning negatively in this part of the world. Tho I have an unshaken faith in whom I serve, I must say I'm beginig to get dissapointed in Religion as a whole, Faith stands tho. Religion has so blocked our ability to stand togeda nd seek a common goal to achieve. 90percent of those on Nairalands are youths nd above, imagine a voice of above 1million of us agreeing on things and stand against a corrupt society, with voices trancending or tribes and religion. Check out 90percent of forums here, its always a religious or tribal war. Before u insult me for being blunt, remember: The Will to absorb a man's reason, understand and digest it, without necessarily accepting it, is being the master of Wisdom.

on this, I stand still.

xtayle: Catholic and Islam are the same. Apart from the Charismatic movement in Catholic, its just like Islam. Catholicm is fetish and it was handed down by the then Emperor (Constatine) of Rome whose government could not stand the rapid growth of the Church in the Roman Empire. So he started killing Xtians but d more he killed them d more the become. He then designed his acceptable mode of Xtianity patterned after the Roman Goddess - the queen of heaven (AKA holy mary) and called it catholic. Then a law went out compelling all subject of Rome can only practice Xtianity d catholic way else you are dead.

Catholic faithfuls use rosary and their islamic counterparts use tesbiu. Its a dogmatic and satanic doctrine without biblical support. Their probable grouse for leaving CAN cannot be too far from the current leadership of d association who is a radical penticostalist. They cannot stand the spiritual flow of penticost.

. Insulting u would be way too stupid of any1, ild rather laff cos this is getting me so ............lmfao! Where did u get this form of history? Y do pple just wake up these days nd form their own form of history, distorting things that should be preserved for posterity's sake. Instead of telling u d whole long story, ild rather let u fish for urself. 1: find out who Constantine was, how important he is in christianity, find out howmany centuries after christianity Islam emerged, and then go and seek historical knowledge of the two, nd change ur post from being 100percent wrong, to watever uve learnt after reading up.

Nd ma guys have kept ma question unanswered... Looools. Is Ministry of foreign affairs Pay so hidden that all efforts to knw wasup with the place have been to no avail. I'm here cos of that Ooo! Adequate info required Ooo

Honestly, critical thinkers who annalyse the tweet et retweet wld knw that in fact, it was portrayin that in as much as Jesus Christ is upright, some pple wld still blindly throw their support for Jonathan nd Spoil Jesus's name cos they want to support Jonathan. The underlynin analysis there is he agrees that Jesus is upright nd was neva married,but dos pple wld find a way to mar his name.,Nd now I wonder y this is too much to see nd pple just chant War, Quarell and anyfin wen it comes to religion nd other things. I am a christian, so pls don't fink its an "unbiliver". But like Carl Max said, Religion is the Opium of the Masses. Religion has Marred nd affected our reasoning negatively in this part of the world. Tho I have an unshaken faith in whom I serve, I must say I'm beginig to get dissapointed in Religion as a whole, Faith stands tho. Religion has so blocked our ability to stand togeda nd seek a common goal to achieve. 90percent of those on Nairalands are youths nd above, imagine a voice of above 1million of us agreeing on things and stand against a corrupt society, with voices trancending or tribes and religion. Check out 90percent of forums here, its always a religious or tribal war. Before u insult me for being blunt, remember: The Will to absorb a man's reason, understand and digest it, without necessarily accepting it, is being the master of Wisdom.

bobbydbobo: Pls wah about ministry of Foreign affairs.. Does it also make all d sense?? Any 1 who knws abt it shld pls shed gd lite on it... +++ Aviation authority too is a very sweet place to work

wld sum1 pls talk to me

Pls wah about ministry of Foreign affairs.. Does it also make all d sense?? Any 1 who knws abt it shld pls shed gd lite on it... +++ Aviation authority too is a very sweet place to work

Pls does any1 have an idea of how much the nigerian ministry of foreign Affairs pays fresh intakes

Nd pls does any1 have an idea of how much the Nigerian ministry of foreign affairs pays fresh graduates/ income.

[b][/b]We are nt sayin Nigeria doesn't have problems, ranging frm bad leadership, to corruption, poverty etc, buh u saying Nigeria is inconsequential to US is funny. Look my bro, u can't make negotiations and nt be at d receiving end in Nigeria cos all the parameters to b put in place are faulty, its in Nigeria that about 7billion dollars worth of oil is unaccounted for every year. If the US is gaining from this mala inse, do u xpect them not to support such a government even @ the detriment of ur citezens, they would, cos in international relations, in real world politics, aggradizement of such never cease. Luk @ d history of japan.. They faced these things numerous years ago, the kinda stage we are in now, wen the US used gunboat tactics to force Japan open her ports in the 1850's, @ the face of European incursion, what did the Japanese do? Hotta masayoshi wrote a memorandum that changed Japans foreign policy for years to come he said " I am therefore convinced that our policy should be to conclude friendly alliances ,to send ships to foreign countries everywhere to conduct trade,to copy the foreigners where they are at their best and so repair our short comings, to foster our national strength and complete our armaments and so gradually subject the foreigners to our influence until in the end all the countries of the world knw the blessings of perfect tranquility and our hegemony is acknowledged thruout the globe". In a period of 10yrs, the unequal treaties the imperialists were using to deal with Japan was changed to equal treaties. Nigeria wld neva use such dealings to their advantage. Let's not miss the point, the point is,America cn plan for FIFTY yrs, jst to sow discord and plant ill feelings among u till u hate urself, kill urself, nd they benefit frm it, cos its wats best for their country. Dnt let's b decieved by all we watch on cnn, that's d first tool, Propaganda. By sayin fifty yrs u probably wld feel, hw cn u say such when the plotters wld have died long before then, let me remind u its not like PDP being in power for 4 yrs and ACN coming after four years to destroy all pdp did during their time, NO, wen regimes change there,its not a radical discontinuity, buh rather, an act of revolutionary continuity.

X-factoria:
Without watching any video, this is nonsensical!!! Utter rubbish!!!!

Nigeria is inconsequential to the United States. They have more oil than we do and by analysts projections, the US oil reserve would be the largest by 2017. Already, they have started drilling their oil. If anything, very soon, Nigeria will be at the mercy of the United States when they start go fully self-sufficient on oil and crash the world price of crude oil. They are our biggest oil customer and they have been reducing their oil importation from Nigeria on an annual basis since 2010.

Rather than look inward to solve our problems, people like this OP are busy spreading propaganda. This kind of stuff just get me irate. I'm in a top business school in the United States, Nigeria hardly gets mentioned when talking of emerging economies with prospect for investors and the reasons are Boko Haram's posed insecurity problem and our corruption scorecard.

Did the US help you elect e-diots

this I tell u, Is " ignorance per excellence". Nigeria inconsequential to united states further confirms how uninformed u are. Look, Nigeria is a threat to the west because of our strategic gifts and might in africa. Nigeria is seen as a country that if United, can rally round nations in africa, make them strong and then do away with the strong economic reliance on the west which is where they"the west" gain. Never joke with america, their long time visions and projections are far more comprehensive than what u think. Another funny side is that America neva produces a movie without reeling out an underlynin message. For some time, we've seen movies talkin about Nigeria breaking up by 2015, u I trust will b one of the many pple who wld say what does a movie have to do with politics, what if I tell u Occupy Nigeria was the first test on what form the breakup cn take, study the flaws and set things beta. Ure one of the very many pple who biliv the revolutions in places like Libya was without support, look at iraq too under sadamme. We are a threat to their Neo colonalist tact. I love america cos all they do is for the good of the country, even if doing certain horrible things to preserve d good of the country, that's what international politics is, live with it, the great thing about them is their putting of their national interest b4 personal interest. US wld neva send troops wthout looking @ d economic importance for their country, in Nigeria, we form big brothers, "d boy is good". I don't have to watch the video, its a pssibility. + mr buisness schol, its obvious ure one of the many who are greatful for being given a life over there, though a substandard life but stil cringe at their feet I don't blame u. Get 1 thing right, US is the master of Propaganda, paint all nations black and paint US white both internally nd externally....

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Mine is on the 17th(monday)... Pls for those who have done theirrs, pls share wiv us. Plsssss. Remember we are from diff states so we can't eat into ur uota, who ever would b picked dbecnt derpls share wiv us frnds.

Pls for dos daat went 4 d intv 2day, pls share wah u were asked with us, afterall, we cnt eat into d quota of ur state . So pls let's knw wasup nd b atleast a bit prepared. Nd for dos who wish to check their names, send ur names I hav d paper here, friday punch , pg 55. So u cn knw ur intv date asap....

Pls for dos daat went 4 d intv 2day, pls share wah u were asked with us, afterall, we cnt eat into d quota of ur state . So pls let's knw wasup nd b atleast a bit prepared.

Pls  LG recommendation letter..... Do U̶̲̥̅̊ mean d letter identifying that ure from that local govt?

I'm S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ Happy cos I was chosen. Buh pls wah things are to b brought along to  intv.... Congrats to all those chosen, nd those who were not, God wld do sumfin greater...........

blunderass01: Both Bobby and Maple. Have you been studying the act of war or what? For you to have known all this histories. It baffles me. Do you read some sort of war magazines or what? You can share your secret with me.

.........LWKMD!!!!!!!!! I studied History nd International Relations,,,, don't xpect anyfin less..... Lmfao