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Uyi Iredia: Similar. Interesting. So what is your view on religions in general.

well my views about religion, are somehow different, but I don't religions as institutions are all bad, there are a few good ones, and there are some that are more spiritually aware dan most, like most religions in the eastern part of the world are more spiritually aware than most religions in the west.

Like most religions are concerned about the soul and the afterlife (reincarnation) thus they tend not to focus on this world much, like the monks in tibet and the Buddhists in china, like wise the hindus in india. And I believe that these religions understand the concept of God better than christians and other western religions.

I do not think that these religions are all fraudulent as we used to think as atheists, cos remember that there are billions of people practicing these religions, and one way or the other, they must have experienced the divine, hence their continued belief in their various religions, I believe the essence of religion is to make one more aware about the divine, to enlighten people on what they think would please the divine, but most religions fail to understand that God doesn't conform to any set rules or doctrines he/she/it does things because he wants to do dem, and it knows betta dan any human,

But all in all, as long as the religion doesn't seek to control people it's not bad to practice such a religion.

Uyi Iredia: Thanks. I will also detail some thoughts on God and ask more questions. I wouldn't mind you asking me too.



My concept of God is personal. I say this because consciousness comes along with personality. But I don't think God personal in the manner religions usually state, I think it's possible but don't believe it. For one, God doesn't have a sense of self attached to a material body. Man does. God hasn't erected mental barriers to certain thoughts, we are free in thought and within natural laws, free in what we can physically do.



True.



Okay.



This is where I am much deist. I don't think she would care as such. Think about it, if you are omniscient, what would surprise you. My answer would be nothing. That said, is it safe to say, given what you say here, that you don't believe in certain aspects of how Christians understand God ?




It think she wills us to do what we will, within the constraints of natural laws.



She doesn't even care if you are a a dreaded, beheading-loving terrorist, serial killer or child r@pist. This concept I know would be disturbing for some but the inference is reasonable to the extent God allows such people. She created each and everyone of them and cannot be emotionally stirred by acts of good or evil: for one she is the source of consciousness in all beings, by which one can have any morality, and then she's omniscient.


Finally, I use he/she for God to counter the idea of sexuality we ascribe to God. In the first place those features we think make God a He also apply to women, despite differences. Furthermore, I think it mistaken to apply gender to God who transcends it and created both, I can allow the term to be used since it is popular but I would prefer to use it for God. Not abusively or to say it is unconscious, but because genders in all beings draw from it, not to mention that God hasn't, save in the minds of men, killed humans over a bunch of symbols or sounds depicting name or gender.

I'm happy we share similar ideas about God.

aManFromMars: Basically your God is a reflection of your thoughts...

yes boss, my God is a reflection of my thoughts, and I believe the reason for this is that he/she/it is revealing it's self to me gradually, and thus this new perspective of how God is.

Bélla3: I smell lies!!

what kinda lies? if I may ask,

Mr Troll: This is quite funny. OP does subscribe to the christian god but he's happy to have the christians pray for him. Hehehehehehehe.
Abeg make una leave oga B alone oooo!

lol, bros, prayer na prayer, lol

Uyi Iredia: @ bolaino: Is your concept of God a personal one, or an impersonal one ?

excellent question sire, and I want to give a very honest and sincere answer. My concept of God is a personal one, I think God has an interest in each and every human walking on this earth.

I know u'll ask me about those good people that evil happen to, or those evil people that good things happen to, but the truth remains, there is a God that takes an interest in every human, but I do not believe he cares about who u have sex with or what u do in your spare time, I believe he just wants us to be good and helpful to each other. He doesn't care if u're gay or if you're straight, what he cares about is your state of mind/heart.

wiegraf: Op, you and the likes of folykaze never were atheists per say. I don't even recall you calling yourself atheist, it was usually agnostic/freethinker

Good for you and whatever paths you choose, as long as you don't become sheeple and separate church/state. Kudos

thanks sire, I will not become sheeple, lol.

Ishilove: I most definitely will. You have been chosen, so fear not

thank you sister, may the good lord bless you.

Chibuebem: One more thing bolaino;

I hope fear didn't play a part in your change of ways??

no, fear didn't play any role in my conversion.

Ishilove: It's unbelievable how someone's newly renewed faith has been turned to a subject of debate by total strangers who haven't walked in his shoes.

Lord, in Your boundless mercy, forgive them and open their eyes to experience You.

Amen ooo, and pls sister put me in your prayers.

obadiah777: bolaino be like say God dey your side sha.

ermmm america has just bombed russian embassy in syria. these nukes finna start flying soon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-4JYRWhWhg

lol, yes sire, I claim it. The lord is on my side oooo, I don leave atheism now ooo, body dey sweet u shebi, lol.

Chibuebem: @bolaino: although this is a nice decision, acknowledging God. Just acknowledging him won't do you much good in this dispensation. The devil(I suppose you acknowledge him too) also acknowledges God. To truly be free from sin and fear, that terrible curse. You MUST know God you see. Prayer changes things. I'll keep praying for you

God bless

thanks sire, I really wish to have a personal relationship with God, but the christian God still doesn't appeal to me. But I would appreciate u puTting me in your prayers. Thanks a lot.

sylve11: Ok bolaino. I used to respect ur views back then even though u r an atheist. I hope i respect ur views better now that u r a theist? Best of luck!

thanks mann, and I hope u still find my views enjoyable in the unforeseen future.

ifeness: Funny thing is the word "God" was created by humans.

yes it was created by Man to explain a phenomenon, in the same way atheism was created to express an ideology.

italo: He is talking on the premise that we all know and agree on the definition of good and evil. A false premise.

So to prove that, I ask: what is the definition of good and evil?

well from my point of view, Good and evil is a universal concept, in nearly all cultures there are similarities between their idea of Good and evil, but as cultures and traditions are subject to change with time, the concepts of Good and evil has been misinterpreted whether deliberately or otherwise, but it still doesn't change what the natural and spiritual worlds think of Good and evil. These are universal concepts.

I want to appreciate everybody that has been encouraging in one way or the other, to all my atheist brethren who think that being an atheist/agnostic makes u superior than others u are wrong, atheism is a just a path that leads to better enlightenment both spiritually and physically.

@ooman, lol, I wonder why u feel angry, any which way, I've left atheism and agnosticism for good, u guys should make the best of it. And I wish u all the best.

@plaethon, boss, if I tell u that I can really explain what led to this change I would be lying, I don't know why God allows evil to happen to Good people, and why even good happening to evil people, I am not God. And I am not a spirit. But what I know is that the ways of God are not our ways, we are humans and we would definitely see things from a human perspective. God is a spirit. And I feel he/she/it knows better,

I'm not saying that u guys should just take everything that happens as the will of God, No, rather ask questions, God in his infinite wisdom will surely give you answers, I emplore my atheist brethren to be steadfast in their quest for enlightenment. But you should also be more tolerant of other people's views and religions, whether u thinks it's true or not.

NAMASTE!!!

beejaay: Op Doesn't acknowledge any god,he simply realise the Absoluteness of the One.he simply realize that nothing rili exist outside the One whether muslim,xtian,atheist,theist,agnoist,hindus we are existing within the. Context of the One that is why he won't feelthreatened again by the uttrances of anyone believe because henow realize that notin real can be treathened(with this realization he can accomodate all views and yet not belong to any, the joy accompanied with this state of mind cannot be xplained and dts wat religions called paradise)
@op welcome onboard

thanks mann, u just explained exactly how I feel mann, thanks mann,

ninja4life: Dont know wat to say,can u please explain how u know dat wat u are experiencing is d hand of God and wat makes u think so.and also can u pls give us a hint of how dis God u still dont know much about blessed u.hav u developed any relationship with dis God.i will also lik to know after u urself experiencing God wat can u say about him/her/it.i will be glad if u can answer my questions cos i'm really curious

I've seen the hand of God in my life, and it's very visible that I can not deny it.

Logicboy03: NAMASTE? Are you hindu or buddhist?

Anyhoo, its okay as long as you remain tolerant.

What kind of God do you believe in? Deist, personal, spiritial?

lol, hinduism appeals more to me. It's all about a way of life and a relationship with the supreme, anywhich way u want to go about that relationship is between u and your God. I'm spiritual,

Beretta92: Whatever gives you satisfaction...

yes sire,

Emusan: Now you've renounced atheism, ask God to reveal Himself to you as a real evidence of His existence with a pure heart and in faith which I believe He will surely do so.

Heaven rejoices over a soul that repented.


Shalom!

thanks sire, although I am not saying I am now a christian ooo, but I respect everybody and every's religion,

texanomaly: Hope you are happy. That is all I would want for you.

yes dear, I'm very happy, thanks a lot.

Reyginus: Good for you. I guess you were looking inward.

yes sire, I guess I was

aManFromMars: Lol, u don turn Buddhist?

Disappointed? Why would anyone be?

Enjoy life man. Hopefully, we go hook up for Warri someday.

lol, definitely mann, we would definitely hook up.

My journey towards self actualization has taken me to different paths, in my quest for a better understanding of the problems of mankind, I have read lots of books and practiced one or two religions, but after a while I later believed all religions were the same, and that really there was no concrete evidence for the existence of a supreme being God,

And being in the health care sector, and seeing all sorts of innocent people suffering and dying from different diseases, I believed that there was no God, cos if there was a God, he would help the innocent people, this and other reasons, pushed me into atheism/agnosticism, And to make matters worse the christian community were giving me more reasons not to believe in their God, cos after careful study and research of the bible, I discovered like many atheists that the bible is a book filled with contradictions and errors, and at such should not be taken seriously.

But to cut the long story short, for the past few months I have seen the hand of God in my life, (I'm sorry muskeetoo, logicboy and all my good atheist friends on here) the lord has shown me his mercies in ways I could never imagine, he has favored and blessed me unimaginably, even when he/she/it (I don't know what gender God is) knows about my atheistic views and how I have mocked the Gods in the bible and quran, but still the lord has been faithful,

As from this moment, I rededicate my life to God, I renounce atheism and agnosticism, I embrace God, and I welcome him into my life,

Atheism is not bad, cos I believe that God created us to be inquisitive, and atheism is as a result of Man's inquisitive nature, and I urge my atheist brothers everywhere, to continue being critics of religion and God, one day he/she/it, will reveal himself/herself/itself to you, I am not saying I belong to any religion right now, I still think christianity sucks, but I now believe in God, I believe God shapes our destinies and makes things happen to fit his reasons, and God knows best, I will no longer write or make statements to insult any God of any religion, be it obadiah's armageddon God or logicboy's flying spaghetti monster, lol. I am now a new man,

I hope my atheist brothers do not find this disappointing, but this is a personal decision that I have come to after careful reasoning, I love you guys, muskeetooo, logicboy, plaethon, ooman, wiegraf, folykaze, ifeness, pagan9ja, etc, u guys are wonderful people, keep the atheism flag flying and I pray that your quest for knowledge would lead you to the realization of the existence of God.

NAMASTE!!!

Ray McBlue: Irrelevant. We are not talking about Christians, we are talking about gays. Don't derail the topic.

lol, ok sire, so from the bottom of your heart what do you think about homosexuals?

Ray McBlue: I depise them.

why do you despise christians, if I may ask?

masonkz: At least you can admit that you're afraid you may turn gay...maybe I'm afraid I may turn straight

masonkz: At least you can admit that you're afraid you may turn gay...maybe I'm afraid I may turn straight

masonkz: At least you can admit that you're afraid you may turn gay...maybe I'm afraid I may turn straight

how did u know u were gay? Were u influenced or were u born this way?

9ja_Hottest_Gay: @bolaino, Hmmm, Im sorry to say bt, Im sure ur confused abt yr sexuality. No offence meant in all sincerity.
Ok, I might be of help, why not look up d word GAY in d dico and see if d definition applies to u. Once again, im sorry if I offend u.

well honestly, I think I'm scared of turning gay, if at all there is ever a possibility. But honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I love women so much, I love the VAG and boobs too much, I can't give dat up for anything, that's just d plain truth, I'm not confused about my sexuality, not at all, I'm not offended bro, pls the reason I'm following u is cos I want to get to the root cause of homophobia, as per, what is it that really makes straight men homophobic.

god_of_music: Download Pheel ft Vector-Popular

And

Drake ft 2chains and Big sean-All me

I love that song, all me.

I hope u know that rap music is homophobic? But if u really want to listen to rap, u could listen to more conscious rap, like that of common, lupe fiasco, kendrick lemar, mos def.

texanomaly: Me too I guess...can't sleep. To much on my mind. I decided to write in my NL diary. A monster came out. Could be why I can't sleep. After reading what came out of my head, I think I scare myself a little. Anyway, good morning.

this reminds me of something, have u ever had a dream where u were so scared that even in real life u've never been that scared, have u had such an experience?