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Jokerman:
Lol..
We are defeating Reading by 4 goals to Nil.

What time is our match today?

Does any one know why la Liga still allows Athletic Bilbao racist and Xenophobic recruitment policy up till now?

patrickmuf:
Bruno will bench Eriksen in this our setup? Think again...

As for Isak, what have you seen of his game that makes you think he'd do better than Martial? His goal return is poor for a CF and he has barely been fit...Is it a case of any other player than ours?

Bruno will definitely bench Eriksen who is lightweight and lazy to play as a CM. Bruno offers everything Eriksen does in that central midfield role and more. Debatable but Isak is a better striker than Martial. If Martial was good enough we won't be in the market for a new top striker.

maik99:
Is it just me or Saka didn't really go past Shaw in that game? Yes Saka was on his neck throughout but Shaw did not really tackle him, Shaw jus retreated into the box more than 95% of the time

You are actually spot on. I think Shaw was scared to engage him or following tactical instructions.

patrickmuf:
Who are the quality players they have bought?

Trippier, Isak, Botman and Bruno Guimares are not exactly world beaters...Bar Trippier, none of them will start for United though Isak has an outside chance...

I think they have raised their level thanks to their mentality that they're are now a top team.

Isak, Bruno and trippier will definitely start for United. Bruno is a perfect player to pair with Casemiro.

Havertz10:
LGBTQ desires aren’t human rights, if we want to argue fundamentals here, it’s counterproductive to human life but since white men also do it, it’s a good thing and it should be legal everywhere

Counterproductive to human life ? I will love to hear your explanation on that. I have warned you before to do your research gee. Just go and read up on homosexuality in Africa before the coming of the white men. This myth of homosexuality being a colonial or white man invention is freaking hilarious when it was the white men who came to Africa with their religion and told you something you were practicing for generations is a sin. I always burst out laughing when I hear Africans say it's a white man creation.

Havertz10:
nobody is gay from birth, that’s a very big lie

You discover your sexual preferences, the same way you discover the kind of women that you find attractive, through experience and awareness

In fact, most of the features you have today, have been genetically prioritized because society places significant value on them, from being tall to having big breast but that’s another topic


Exposure creates awareness, its very crucial because it’s what defines you, the more you know of the possibility of something the more desensitized you are to it. Doesn’t matter if it’s bad or good

Most people that got to know about porn early, had sex at an earlier age than their peers, same thing happens when you expose a teenager to LGBTQ instead of allowing them to mature first, before choosing to make that discovery for themselves

LGBTQ desires aren’t human rights, if we want to argue fundamentals here, it’s counterproductive to human life but since white men also do it, it’s a good thing and it should be legal everywhere

There are more significant issues that should be getting greater attention instead of this subject, slavery still exist in the world today, we haven’t fixed that, it’s giving people that claim to be women but still keep their joysticks, rights that you want to prioritize.

You are still typing from a place of ignorance gee. I will advise you do more research on this topic before wasting my time repeating things over and over again. Sexuality is gotten from by birth and not a choice affected by environmental factors. Once again at what age did you choose heterosexuality? Let me guess you don't know and was just attracted to the opposite gender since birth. Same way they are people from birth that are attracted to the same gender. I said this in my previous post nothing can turn an heterosexual man to an homosexual and vice versa. You keep equating sexual intercourse to mean sexuality which is a big problem you are having. That's why am not surprised you actually think watching of porn turn people into homosexual or heterosexual lol. That's why I know you are talking from a place of ignorance.


The argument you are making is quite shallow and even far from the premise of the earlier discussion. When I talk about Lgtv Rights being basic human rights it simple means irrespective of people's sexuality ( Lgtv), Sex( Male or female, Religion ( Christians/ Muslims), race etc People should be treated and given the same equal rights cause we all humans or you think Lgtv should be jailed, discriminated against and stoned to death for their sexuality?

andrewbaba44:
Akuko

Maybe if the are playing Poland at their next game hope fit Dey

Mexico will smoke this team

On another day, Argentina would have won this game comfortably. Martinez had a goal ruled offside because his shoulder was offside by an inch. Messi had a goal ruled offside because he was like half a foot offside. And Martinez also had another one ruled offside due to being a foot offside. As I said, on another day, Saudi Arabia get that line wrong, and if Messi and Martinez time those runs better, they score 2 or 3 goals from that. Their goalkeeper also made a few good saves. They had a few knocked off the line. Also, on another day, those 2 goals don't go in; one went right through Romero's legs, and the other one.... took a deflection, which Martinez would normally save.

Not saying Saudi Arabia didn't work hard or put effort but on another day, they get hammered badly. Things went for them today.
I honestly expect Argentina will beat Poland and Mexico quite comfortably.

Havertz10:
I have explained it repeatedly

Nobody is born with any inclination, you are a product of your environment, meaning that what you are exposed to, plays a big role in determining who you are

If your dad was a Muslim, you would be a Muslim today

Someone can find men more attractive than women, I don’t have a problem with that, I have a problem with saying that such desires are a right and should be enforced

Lastly, The reason i’m against enforced adoption is because of how people are, they tend to move with whatever is trending particularly young people

This chart that I shared is a good example of how impressionable people are

It has been doubling because more people are exposed to the concept

Exposure is a very powerful social tool

LGBTQ community should be patient, if the world will accept it, it will, you don’t need to force it down everybody throat as some pseudo right

You are still typing from the perspective of Sexuality being a choice that people chooses which already renders your entire post null and void. You even equate it to religion which people can choose and drop at anytime they feel like. You are still showing your ignorance on this topic gee. You are even telling a discriminated group not to fight for their right to live and should embrace being oppressed. How exactly is a group of being that have been discriminated against and even have laws enacted that can imprison them or even stone them to death in parts of the world forcing anything down your throat because they are fighting for those laws to be removed? They are so many things wrong in your post it's hilarious.

1) Sexuality is not a choice. People don't choose their sexuality,it's something they are born with. I have asked you before how old you were when you decided to choose heterosexuality but you haven't answered.

2) Fighting for the removal of laws and creating awareness of those laws that causes discrimination plus bigotry is not shoving things down people's throat. The fact you think so it's shocking.

3) It's doubling because people there are no longer hiding who they are because they are protected by law and not discriminated against. It has nothing to do with exposure or Media. If you are born heterosexual, nothing is going to make you attracted to the same gender likewise for homosexual.

Havertz10:
I don’t have a problem with LGBTQ, i’m simply saying that it’s not a right, same way you don’t need a right to have sex with a woman any where in the world or to openly declare yourself heterosexual

It’s a social habit, overtime society will naturally accept it or reject it, it’s not a fundamental right that needs enforcement, as for the discrimination against it, well that is to be expected, laws wouldn’t stop it’s discrimination, bundling it into a right and asking for its enforcement will only annoy more people

LGBTQ isn’t a group that needs protection, you chose to express certain tendencies, a significant proportion of the world isn’t open to such social habits, saying that it’s your right to shove your habits down the throats of others is unacceptable especially given how easily impressionable a significant proportion of the world is

Everybody is a blank page at birth, you are a product of your environment, studies have shown that LGBTQ has been on the rise not because more people are realizing that they are like that but because more people are exposed to it through movies and MSM propaganda, some even use it as a means to gain favor


There are also it’s extremes like nonbinary and the likes, there is a feminine part in all men and a masculine part in all women, you can choose to tap into that part of yourself or not, it’s your choice at the end of the day but don’t demand special privileges over your habits

The fact you keep saying it's a choice, social habit and equating it to sexual intercourse already tells me you have no idea what you are saying or talking about so am just wasting my time. In your mindset Homosexuality equals Anal sex which is hilarious. I have asked you repeatedly is heterosexuality a choice and at what age did you choose to be attracted to the opposite gender yet you haven't provided any answer. Gee they are basically laws in numerous countries where they can be jailed for certain number of years and even be stoned to death in Muslim countries so how are they not one of the most discriminated group of people in need of protection? Those Lgtv people are basically saying allow us live our lives and not discriminates and make laws that can imprison and even get them killed. If they are laws that can imprison you for just the color of your skin how would you react to it.

Havertz10:
Sexual orientation isn’t a right, American society may have presented it like that but it’s not a right, it’s social habit, societies can choose to either accept or reject it, particularly if they don’t want their people to be exposed to it, using human rights as an angle to push that agenda is Bullshit.

You are still typing out of point gee. Each and every human have the basics rights to be treated with respect and avoid being discriminated against despite skin color, race, sex or Sexuality, Yes or no. Since when is discrimination and bigotry against a group of people for something they are born with not against basic human rights and principles. Sexuality is not an American invention so I don't know what you are talking about in this paragraph. How can society accept or reject something we are born with and can't be changed? can society reject heterosexuality, Can society reject the various skin color, can society reject using the eyes for seeing or using legs for walking so why should society reject homosexuality? You are sounding really confused. You didn't answer my question on what age you choose to become an heterosexual.

Havertz10:
Universal human rights There is nothing like rights oga, you are simply afforded certain privileges based on what your government considers to appropriate and have the power to enforce

All that UN chatter talk is simply bullshit, your rights are privileges that can be given and taken at any moment, Julian assuage did no wrong but Americans tried to kill him, those same people are talking about universal rights

Sexual orientation isn’t a human right, there is a big difference between saying it’s wrong to kill someone and saying that someone should avoid certain sexual habits in certain environments, besides sexual orientation is broad, people can fall in love with weird things, at what point do we say ok enough is enough with this madness? Got nothing against LGBTQ but the idea that they should be allowed to polute the mindset of others with their choices is unacceptable, don’t force it down the throats of others, if it’s going to become an acceptable social norm, it will happen naturally, all these pushes as if LGBTQ discrimination is equivalent to slavery is baffling ,even going as far as calling it a right

You are typing out of point. The reason I brought up UN universal human rights is to show the poster it's not something invented by America or the west from thin Air so should not be called western values. How is asking for the respect of everyone and avoidance of discrimination inspite of race, sex, religion and sexuality a western value? Those are universal freaking values.

Your second paragraph is insane gee. Each and every human has the basic human rights to love whatever gender they want and should not be discriminated or oppressed for it. Immediately you said their choices I just knew you have zero idea or knowledge of the issue you are talking about. At what age did you choice to be heterosexual?

Joezinho:
The west is not the spokespersons for humanity..

What kind of value is it to deny people basic human rights. If my religion or culture denies you of your rights, would you respect and accept it? Since when has Universal human rights been re-labelled as western values.


The Universal Declaration of Human Rights was drawn up by the UN and all member countries took part and agreed to it including Qatar. It's not something that was created from thin air by America.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

Ibime:
That tells you everything wrong with Africa

You no fit even represent country wey your Papa be President

He was born, raised and have lived almost his entire life in the States. Why should he represent another country he has no connection with just because his father is the president?

tng:
This is false equivalence in my opinion. wearing head covering is a religious injunction. being LGBTQ or wanting to drink beer is not. So if a muslim girl is deprived of wearing her head covering at USA 26 then yes! it is discrimination. She therefore has the choice of going through with the rules and attending the tournament or staying home.
Like many have stated here, all this is perfomative. If the West were so concerned they should have staged a boycott. That makes a louder statement than any armbands or statements.

Its a perfect equivalent . What are you talking about? It's actually the opposite. Belonging to a religion is a choice that can changed at anytime whereas Heterosexuality and homosexuality is not. That's how people are born and it's something they cant change. It's a bigger discrimination than a Muslim girl deprived of covering her hair. A statement is a statement big or small. A performative statement is still a statement. It's like you criticizing me for giving an homeless man $1000 instead of building him a house.

andrewbaba44:
Naaa ,not sounding ignorant here .

You literally are my gee.

andrewbaba44:
What’s stopping them from practicing it openly ?

God this nigga. You are basically seeing western media creating awareness on the laws discriminating against Lgtv people in Qatar preventing them from living their Iives openly.

andrewbaba44:
They should catch one of them first ,or what’s stopping them from hiding from who they are ?

Now you are just sounding ignorant. Go and do your research.

andrewbaba44:
Can you show me where they do practice LGBTXYZ openly in Qatar ?

You are sounding even more confused. Are you telling me they are no Lgtv people living and working in Qatar?

andrewbaba44:
Respect Qatar

Gay and lesbianism shouldn’t be brought there

Is that too hard to comprehend ?

Mr man they are people born, raised and working in Qatar that are Lgtv? Western media is calling out those laws oppressing them in the country. You are sounding confused.

andrewbaba44:
Where is blasphemy on Nigeria law as LGBT is in Qatar law ?

those people that killed Deborah should easily be in jail if naija is a working country

Do your LGBT in peace and don’t take it openly to another man land ,is thah too much to ask oga ?

Sokoto is a Muslim state and blasphemy is Haram. Same way Lgtv is Haram in Qatar. If you support them arresting Lgtv people because it's Haram to their religion then you also support the actions taking against Deborah In sokoto who also committed Haram. You cannot even hear yourself supporting discrimination. That's the hilarious part of this discussion .

andrewbaba44:
They said they don’t want such in Qatar ,so why can’t you obey the law over there ?

Since when is discrimination laws accepted? Go to America and tell black people you don't want them in your shops and see if you don't get arrested?

andrewbaba44:
They said they don’t want such in Qatar ,so why can’t you obey the law over there ?

Be turning amala by saying I supporting the killing of Deborah ,you will tell me what connected the killing of Deborah to obeying the laws in Qatar

The killing of Deborah is a crime as she did nothing wrong ,so what is connecting that to LGBT ?

You basically said it's Haram to be Lgtv in Qatar and they should be arrested. Blasphemy against Prophet Muhammad is also Haram in sokoto which is why they punished Deborah by killing her. How can't you see the connection to both Haram situations?

andrewbaba44:
It’s haram ,they should be arrested

Practice your lgbt in your country ,enjoy the fun of the World Cup and don’t bring nonsense to Qatar

Ibime:
Change and pressure should come from Qataris themselves, footballers are just going to represent their country for few days

These footballers are trapped between offending their hosts and offending the LGBT community if they say anything. It's literally a no-win situation. The journalists should not set traps for them and force them into activism. There are many practices we abhor in our home villages, it does not mean we go causing kwatar (pun intended) everytime we travel home.

Only few men in this world are activists. Most men just want a peaceful life, go home to their families and retire without drama. Let the activists activate, and let those who want no drama go about their business. If Aramco call you up to Saudi to work for them, you go carry placard go protest on the first day of your job? There's a prayer that says "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference"

Changes cannot come from the Qataris alone. Religion gives no one the right discriminates against another person. I see no reason why anyone here should be angry that the western media is using the world cup coverage to call out Qatar discriminative laws against people. You don't need be an activist to believe each and every one should be treated the same way and enjoys the same benefits every human should be given.

andrewbaba44:
It’s haram ,they should be arrested

Practice your lgbt in your country ,enjoy the fun of the World Cup and don’t bring nonsense to Qatar

It's hilarious how you can't hear yourself supporting the discriminantion and oppression of a group of people due to their sexual orientation. Let me guess you also supported the killing of Deborah for blasphemy against prophet Muhammad which is Haram.

andrewbaba44:
Na make dem no catch you .

It’s haram over there .

And you are ok with them being discriminated against and arrested? You have a problem with the western media fighting for a discriminated group of people in Qatar?

andrewbaba44:
They should not go and practice such in Qatar ,it’s simple .

You realize they are Lgtv people born, working and living in Qatar right?

andrewbaba44:
They are so fvcking greedy and entitled for more

We go hear am for next World Cup wey go take place for Mexico USA ans Canada

They should do their lgbtq in peace and leave we straight people alone

I love the fact that Qatar as a country doesn’t accept nonsense

Greedy and entitled for asking Qatar to change their laws that discriminates against them. So you believe the Lgtv people should be discriminated against because of their sexual orientation? You know it's in the law of Qatar for them to be arrested and even put to death which is why they are protesting and creating awareness.

arukwe123:
is that why he has 1 league goal all season?

How is this comment related to my post? Please do your banters far away from my mentions.

Santos07:
when he was scoring goal last season and playing champions league he didn't notice the gym and other things.

I can bring up various reports and sources talking about Ronaldo not being satisfied with the facilities at Old Trafford from last season if you are interested . Infact everything he said in his latest interview was already reported during the previous season. Here are links to various articles on Ronaldo concerning the facilities.



https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/cristiano-ronaldo-man-utd-training-27089194

https://www.marca.com/en/football/manchester-united/2022/05/30/6294bd8d268e3e635d8b45b2.html

https://talksport.com/football/1183473/cristiano-ronaldo-man-utd-old-trafford-concerns-glazer-family/

kokaneprodigy:
You want someone out of his personal property?
You are naive.

Friend you have been typing out of point since the beginning of this conversation. Going any further will be a waste of my time.

TrebleChamp:
Even Gary Neville urged him to speak out against the rot at the club, but some people want to rubbish this because they are Messi fans...

It's hilarious.


United fans: The top of old Trafford is leaking and should be renovated.

A united player bold enough comes out and said during an interview that the top of Old Trafford is leaking and should be renovated


Same United fans: What a disrespect, how dare you say the things we have been saying and even protesting about. You are no longer a legend and have disgraced the club for saying the things we have been saying.


This is exactly what's going on here.