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patrickmuf:
Make we talk about UEL or our game at Palace on Sunday...This debate no go get end.

I don't see much changes for the tomorrow match. Maybe Ronaldo and Casemiro coming in then dubvraka for De gea.

Come on Dinamo have had so many well known players who played for them. Modric, Kovacic, Brozovic, Lovren, Vrsaljko, Olmo, Mandzukic, Pjaca, etc

raumdeuter:
I can mention 5 players that played for Shaktar in the last 20yrs

Can you mention 5 players that played for the team who flogged Chelsea tonight in the past 50yrs

Cyberrex:
100 percent

Even if he is found not guilty the chance of playing for united again is very very slim. What a wasted career.

Expert17:
I can't waste my time writing an epistle to convince someone who thinks Maguire is a good CB

So we would have won Liverpool if Maguire had played

Every week with different jokes, last week was Ter stegen and Neuer VS Ederson.

ok

Cyberrex:
the fact that players place in first xi were not under threat even with the disasterclass they serve week in week out, is the argument,

If that's you argument then no objection from me. I was talking about your earlier post concerning the Leicester match.

Expert17:
So we would have won those games with Magwaya?

You realized we were on a 14games unbeaten run in the league which included victories against Manchester city and Tottenham until the moment he got injured against Villa. We lost the next 2 league matches 2:1 to Leicester and 4:2 to Liverpool. Next time read my post and come up with something tangible instead of writing 2 to 3 sentences with zero substance.

Cyberrex:
if I have power to kill and resurrect the second day, I'd kill olè, that man played an unfit maguire for that Leicester clash over a fit baily, which later cost us the 3 points, that loss is solely on Ole, and I'll be forever bitter about that game

Do you remember the last time Maguire was injured against Villa during the 2020/2021 season and Bailly was drafted into the starting eleven? We lost back to back matches 2:1 against Leicester and Liverpool 4:2. Its obvious Ole doesn't trust Bailey using past performances that he prefers an half fit Maguire to him. Even Ragnick came in and gave Dalot and Telles game time yet Bailly was ignored. No manager trust him cause he isn't good enough.

BlackAIIDay:
Omo, let me not lie. All Manchester United fans are missing Mason Greenwood in this team.

I definitely am but he has himself to blame.

melodyogonna:
I no sabi that one, you'd have to ask Ralf as I don't think Maguire was any better than any defender last season.

Even when Maguire was Benched last season we still conceded 4:0 to Brighton. The entire team and defense was just shambolic last season.

melodyogonna:
Guy couldn't stay fit to save his life but looking for who to blame. Fit go back to injury on his first training with this new team.

Don't mind Bailly.

MRTA7:
We're saying different things.

I'm saying when Maguire was half fit he was still played ahead of Bailly who was fully fit at the time. And let's not forget Maguire was playing poorly. So despite being unfit or out of form, he was playing ahead of Bailly. Varane was injured quite a bit so Lindelof was playing quite a lot of matches but Bailly wasnt. That's the only point I'm making. Bailly didnt get an opportunity, I dont necessarily think its due to Maguire being English but he has a right to be salty about that.

You made sense but that race card was just nonsense. When Varane was fit he started immediately yet he is French. When Varane was not still not fit he couldn't get game time over Lindelof a Swedish. If he had come out and said I wasn't given a chance to prove my self last season that would have made more sense. Saying English players were favoured over him when he couldn't get game time over Varane and Lindelof non English players renders his statement null and void.

Expert17:
Ronaldo can't get quality game time, playing as 2nd/3rd choice CF. Team selection depends on manager preference not necessarily your talent/ability.

And Baily is far better than 80M waste and Swedish lesbian.




Even Jones who can't train for a week has spent 10 years at Old Trafford.

What relevance does Phil Jones or Ronaldo has to do with Bailly recent comment? Bailly saying English players were favoured ahead of him makes zero sense when he couldn't get game time over a swedish player(Lindelof) and a French player (Varane). He couldn't use the race card then decided to use nationality.

ovoP:
playing with halaand means less control, but it doesn't mean dey won't win games..

I don't think City will have less control with Haaland. Haaland adds another dimension to their style of play.

MRTA7:
He's obviously talking about the times a half fit Maguire was played over him.

I dont think he has a future at the club though and I think he knows that.

When all Our center backs were fit last season he was 4th choice behind an English, French and Swedish player. He couldn't even get game time ahead of Lindelof. Bailly should not be talking when he couldn't play 3 matches consecutively without getting injured.

Unlimited22:
..

Opinions on Liz Truss??

Don't see her lasting very long. I can't see the Tories risking having her as leader at a General election.

Expert17:
Why is De Gea at the bottom?

Why is Neuer, Ederson, Stegen and Handernovic at the top?


Pep the master of ball possession picked Ederson, nothing else matters right now.

I just need an explanation on the data which you posted and how it is to be interpreted since you claimed to understand it. Then bring out Ederson passing stats at Benfica where you also claimed to watch him as well.

Expert17 please explain this data and how it helps your argument.

Android22:
Also, 2017:

2017: one of the most intelligent. As clear as day.


https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Android22:
Which of your links adds that he ENJOYED (past tense) coaching him? lol

Check the link for your self. Go and read them


2013: He boldly stated most intelligent


https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained


2017: It became One of the most intelligent I have coached

https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
I don't know how to read the data? Lol
I watched Ederson @ Benfica, I'm not even using his EPL heroics to judge him.

Ok kindly bring out Ederson passing stats at Benfica.

Android22:
I attached your screenshot and mine so that people can see if both quotes are the same.

In one he adds I enjoyed coaching him which implies he no longer coaches him. Yet he made the same statement that you cannot deny.

Pic 1 is from your link. Pic 2 is from mine. Both are different times. One in 2013, the other after Pep has left Bayern.

Try again.

I have dropped the two links to each statement Pep made in 2013 and 2017. Go and read them


2013: Most intelligent

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained


2017: One of the most intelligent

https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
Do you know his definition of intelligence?

It might be ability to understands his tactics once or anything else....

Your argument is base on probability and what if. I don't debate what if. The only fact we have here is Pep statement changed immediately he wasn't coaching lahm any longer. It went from the most intelligent to one of the most intelligent.

Expert17:
Sweeping = Neuer, thanks to Bayern high line and farmers league.

Passes/distribution = Ederson.

I can mention up to 10 errors Neuer has committed while trying to play from the back in the farmers league.

Do you even understand how to read this data you just posted and how does it help your argument with only one season sample size? Ederson cannot even touch Ter stegen talkless of Neuer when it comes to passing and distribution. Let's leave it at that.

Android22:
Even your caption has shown you that you were wrong. Just admit it so I can then show you Neuer's blooper reel.

I have dropped the two links to each statement.

2013: Most intelligent

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained

2017: One of the most intelligent



https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
It's a simple stuff, he met players as intelligent as Lahm when he joined Man City.

So you mean Manchester city had more intelligent players than the Barca he coached before going to Bayern? This explanation doesn't have foundation to stand on.

Android22:
Is this not clear enough? The screenshot is after he left Bayern. Hit redial.

2013: Most intelligent

2017: One of the most intelligent

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/pep-guardiola-philipp-lahm-is-the-most-intelligent-player-i-have-ever-trained


https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Expert17:
His opinion on Messi and Busquets hasn't changed.

Do you know what it means for a GK to beat Man City midfielders in passing drills? Neuer makes a lot of mistakes with his feet and his passing range is not up to Ederson's level despite playing in farmers league. I guess you are confusing sweeping with ball playing/distribution.

What opinion on Messi and Busquet are you referring to and how Is that relevant here? Ball playing under pressure, Sweeping and ability to pick passes from the 18yard box to anywhere Neuer is better than Ederson.

Android22:
So you won't pretend you did not see it. This is not 2013 as you can tell that Pep had left Bayern and he still called Lahm the most intelligent.

Pep statement in 2013 and 2017 are very clear. In 2013 he said most intelligent and in 2017 changed to "one of the most" intelligent player I have coached.


https://www.goal.com/en/news/guardiola-lavishes-praise-on-lahm-he-is-a-special-person-in/e8mpon5jdkq41h1192spgtkxx

Android22:
lol I COACHED him at Bayern. Did you skip that part?

How Is that relevant to the statement of "Most intelligent I have ever coached" in 2013 and "one of the most intelligent I have coached" in 2017?

Android22:
He said one of the best I ever coached in 2017. And still maintained he was the most intelligent.

That screenshot is from 2013. The one he said in 2017 was one of the most intelligent I have coached and not the most intelligent I have coached like in 2013. Two different statement.

Expert17:
What if he has seen another intelligent player like lahm? so the statement is right.

Remember Pep didn't retire in 2013.

An argument with what if has no substance. The point here is pep has always been known to praise his current players which means nothing in the long run and shouldn't be taken as fact. Pep saying good things about Ederson is normal. He said Neuer was the best goalkeeper he has ever coached as well and Lewandowski was the most professional player he has coached in his career while at Bayern or how he said he would love 1000 Dantes in his team only to discard him later on.

Android22:
He said one of the best. He still said most intelligent. Remember you first claimed he only made that statement in 2013?

2013: He said most intelligent I have coached

2017: He said one of the most intelligent I have coached.

2 Different statement.