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donjazet:
Wow!! Not too smart up there are you?

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Jodera:
Just watched the Man u documentary "the united way" today on dstv. A very interesting watch I must say.

But e get something wey I wan ask..
Man u fans for here wey watch cantona during his playing days, I beg I wan ask..

Between Cantona and Ibrahimovic, who stubborn or would I say arrogant pass? I know say the guy arrogant o, but watching that documentary made me saw a new level of arrogance from what I read from him.

So I just wanna know abeg

Was a bit of a meh documentary for me. It’s an Eric Cantona money making piece masquerading as a United documentary mostly. A lot more has happened in United’s history than Eric Cantona. I thought a documentary called The United Way may be a little bit more about that and less of a self serving ego trip for one player.

Amoto94:
Low-budget 'Wole Soyinka' can't make his point without calling religious people unintelligent ( in context).

Religious people are actually the smartest on earth. Atheist are amongst the dullest.

Android17:
[s] I was trying to be patient with you but I guess you are offended because I have exposed your argument for its lack of merit and your only response is to throw tantrums? I just gave you the stats for said players just before they left to the present clubs and now that is not pre enough? Lol [/s]

If you had common sense, you would have known it meant their entire stay at the club. Only a fool will hear Pre Madrid Ronaldo and go and bring out his last season at United. Now I can certify you are really dumb.

Android17:
[s] In Riyad's last season before Joining City he had 12 goals in 36 appearances. Salah had 15 in 31 before he joined Liverpool. Is that Pre enough? Fabinho had 7 in 34 and Rodri had 3 in 34? [/s]

I don't know if you are acting dumb on purpose,It's getting irritating.

The correct phrase should be Liverpool has a better manager that brings out and develop individual quality than City manager.

popizaino:
No I didn't write trash maybe, you are the one comprehending trash. The only reason why you think they are also better is because they play under pep guardiola. Let Greenwood switch side to the opposite side of Manchester United and we will here how he has always been better than salah.

Like I said pre City/pre Guardiola. All City players where better than their Liverpool counterpart. The only reason why Salah is currently better than Mahrez by a long distance is because of klopp. Nobody will pick Roma Salah over Leicester Mahrez. Just because klopp is better at improving individual players should be to his credit.

Android17:
I don't know how to do all these emotional arguments. At what point in anyone's history is Pre the club, Pre the Club? For e.g, when was Pre Mahrez? When he was in Le Havre and Salah was already in Chelsea? Fabinho of league winning Monaco/SFinalist UCL to Rodri that nobody accepted as good till this season? QPR Walker or Trent "Wonder Kid" Alexander?

Common sense will tell you Pre means before immediately moving to City/Liverpool or breaking into the first team.

Leicester Mahrez vs Roma Salah

Academy Trent vs Tottenham Walker

Monaco Fabinho vs Atletico Rodri etc

popizaino:
Salah >>>>>>>>> mahrez + foden

Van Djik >>>>>>>> Ruben Diaz

Matip >>>>>>>>>>> John stones

Mane >>>>>>>>>>> sterling

Fabinho >>>>>>>>>>> Rodri

TAA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Walker

Djota >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus.

That's more than half of the first team .

You are typing trash. Before going to Liverpool and City which of those players would you pick? The only reason those players have suddenly developed and become better than their counterpart is due to klopp.

Android17:
what does Pre City have to do with anything?

It has to do with everything. Before going to their current clubs who was better? Just because klopp is better at developing individual players better than Pep should be to his own credit.

Android17:
Allison, TAA, VVD, Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Jota.

Pre city Walker vs Academy Taa......Walker

Pre City Mahrez vs pre Liverpool Salah...... Mahrez

Pre City Rodri vs pre Liverpool Fabinho......Rodri

Pre City Grealish vs pre Liverpool Jota....... Grealish

Android17:
I did. Let your knowledge of venn diagrams or set theory come into play.

Once again you didn't.

Android17:
I just did. Someone else can explain it better to you.

You didn't.

Android17:
Allison, TAA, MATIP, VVD, Robertson, Fabinho, Alcantara, Henderson, Mane, Salah, Jota that is their best 11 - LFC. Ederson, Walker, Diaz, Laporte, Cancelo, Rodri, Bernardo Silva, KDB, Grealish, Riyadh Mahrez, Foden. Keeper - LFC, Defense- Most people will take only Diaz from City and maybe Cancelo (tie), Midfield - City (most might take only Fabinho from LFC). Attack - LFC. I have used "consensus" to come up with this. Personal preference may differ.

Guy just list the Liverpool players that are of greater qualities than City.

popizaino:
Klopp got better players with greater individual qualities than man city

Android17:
I think Liverpool's starting 11 is better than Manchester City's but City have the better squad.

Don't think. Just list those players and let's look at their quality before going to City and Liverpool.

popizaino:
Don't you guys get tired of repeating this same thing that has been proved to be a lie on numerous occasions before your own very eyes? Haba!

There is nothing spectacular about this man city squad, Klopp got better players with greater individual qualities than man city
but pep guardiola is the one making man city tick so pls don't try to play down what pep guardiola is doing at city. No manager will achieve in this world and not even Fergie would achieve better than what pep is doing with man city with the same squad.

Can you list those players?

Mrviktor:
Azin ehhh.. Why I go bench ronaldo.
Someone that gives u a goal every 2 games.

Without ronaldo who go dey score for us since. This one we all of dem dey get mood swings

When you compare both stages of last season and this current season you will find out we are actually doing worst in terms of goal scored. Last season after 16epl matches we had 33goals compared to the 26goals we have now. Has buying Ronaldo really made us better in terms of goal scoring?

hensben:
Its true, mason Mount is better than him. He was living in penalty tax and stat padding. For him to be 25 before being noticed by football world says a lot about his talent.

How old was Drogba when he went to Chelsea? You type like an incel sometimes. I am sure if we go through you previous posts we will find you drooling over Bruno.

MRTA7:
Then you werent listening. We were never a possession based team under Ole because the team he assembled were not capable of it.

The criticism here has always been how Ole is not using the squad to their full potential. If you knew United could not play possession football with Fred and Mctominay then why was ole lambasted for playing counter attacking football? Now you already said we can't play possession football with Mctominay and Fred meaning it's the same counter attacking style of play we are going to see and should expect from Ralf. Yes or No?

MRTA7:
Bruno and McFred is not a lineup that can play a possession game against a decent team

Hold up! We didn't hear this under Ole.

One full week of rest and training to prepare for Norwich. Fitness and fatigue should not be an excuse for the tragic performance yesterday.

ChristineC:
we have to be careful about changing too much too soon. if players start falling like flies to injuries, the season will end worse than it started. it was obvious to every discerning eye how tired the whole team played, even from the start of the game.
those trying to lay blames on individuals should understand that fitness levels are conditioned at preseason. trying to recondition in season must be a gradual thing, and the use of the whole squad has to be proportionate to avoid large scale injuries.

These are nonsense excuses. They had one whole week of rest and training to prepare for Norwich. From what I saw yesterday they didn't train the whole week. Fatigue is a flimsy excuse to come up with.

But Phelan was there too under Ferguson for years. Ferguson kept him around for a reason.

If he was that good in rebuilding several big clubs would have gone for him. It's easier when you are in a small club and could bring in Young talents to develop and then sell for Profits, no pressure and scrutiny. It won't be the same at United. He is not proven at the top level in that aspect.

KingAlabi:
What if ralf outperforms this season?

Do we sign him longterm abi na Eric Ten Haag we go sign?

Then give him a one year contract extension and see what happens.

Chelsea have just 2 wins in their last 5 league games, 1 clean sheet in the last 4 league games and could potentially slip to 3rd depending on other results.

Looks like their results are starting to match how they've been performing.

patrickmuf:
If we look at some of the years others won it ahead of Messi, I am certain we will find a year or two where Messi was statistically the best player but then, it's all about agenda...

You mentioned Ronaldo 2013 and try to downplay it . That's all am concerned about. I didn't talk about Messi so I don't understand why you are typing Messi this and that. Ronaldo was the best player in the whole of 2013. Don't even try to reduce Ronaldo in 2013 to only his performance against Sweden.

makjo900:
Don't be stupid everyday of your life, if 2013 can be mentioned in a 2021 discussion based on the award given to the G.O.A.T then 2010 should be mentioned.

Then mention it far away from my post. Dont quote me with nonsense.

makjo900:
[s] But Wesley Sneijder deserved the 2010 award instead of Messi. You guys are complete jokers [/s]

Where did I mention Sneidjer or Messi ? Please keep your stupidity far away from my mentions.

patrickmuf:
Let's get one thing clear, the best player award is not based on goal scored alone. The overall contribution of a player is evaluated.

If we dig deep, they're a couple of seasons where Messi scored more but didn't win the best player award.

In 2013, Ronaldo was awarded the best player award courtesy of his performance in the play off against Sweden which earned Portugal a place in the world cup but you guys will never talk about it. That season, Bayern won the treble with Ribery and Robben at the peak of their power, was it fair that Ronaldo won the award?

Bernardo Silva is probably City's best player at the moment but the stats won tell you that. Messi away from his goals and assist is awesome...No player in world football is given as much attention as Messi on the pitch yet he still manages to do so much. Put 2-3 players on Ronaldo, Mbappe, Neymar and co and see if they'll be up to any good.

Do people actually think Ribery deserved it over Ronaldo that year? I know the criteria for this award basically means nothing as it always changes but if it is indeed an individual award, Ronaldo deserved it that year.

2013 was one of Ronaldo's best Calendar year production wise 69 goals and 17 assists in 59 matches. He was the best player through out 2013.

Havertz10:
there is nothing to be disappointed there, everything can be explained and understood, even social constructs and their concepts. before you get all picky with me, show a woman my piece and listen to her take on my assertions, funny that its men that are being dismissive of the logic because they dont want to realize that relationships requires work particularly on the part of men

we are talking about a society with a growing number of women that are educated, financially independent, self aware and very opinionated, as a man, if you think you can still rest on the basis that our fathers used of just marrying her, providing basics and forming boss to keep her at home then you are not ready for whats coming

Alaye women still cheat on perfect men who Simp all over them providing everything. You theory holds no water.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I don't think Arsenal was/is the problem.

German products have one way or the other struggled to dominate here.

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In this case Arsenal was definitely the problem.