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The same players had no problem last season watching and learning from Cavani. It makes no sense.

GloryIsaac:
Your post talked about comebacks and fighting spirit.

My reply wants to know where the comebacks and fighting spirit were when Villarreal and Sevilla beat us.

My reply wants to know why the comebacks and fighting spirit don’t show up when it matters most.

Why does it always seem that at the point of success, they fall short?

Of what use is comebacks and fighting spirit if it can’t win us a trophy?

These are the questions that need answers.

Your question and entire post makes zero sense cause it's not related to my post in anyway. I still don't understand the point you are trying to pass through.

GloryIsaac:
Like they fought back against Villarreal in Europa League final.

Like they fought back against Sevilla when Fernandes lost his mind out of anger and raised his voice at Lindelof right on the pitch.

United is turning into an ‘almost made it’ team like Tottenham and we’re giving excuses for them. Ok

How is this related to my post?

GloryIsaac:
It’s a result of persons refusing to take responsibility. Something both teams share.

Juve signed Ronaldo for UCL glory, they got knocked out by Ajax in a tie Ronaldo scored home and away.
The next season, Juve got knocked out by Porto in a tie Chiesa scored 3 goals across both legs.

In both seasons, Bonucci and his fellow defenders couldn’t hold the lead despite their attackers doing their jobs.

Bonucci mentioned that the players subconsciously relaxed because they felt Ronaldo’s presence alone would win them games. How is that Ronaldo’s fault?

No matter how reliable a player is, his teammates must step up too, else the burden becomes too much to bear.

Won’t even talk about United at all. The Europa League final against Villarreal speaks volumes.

It has nothing to do with taking responsibilities. It's all about game play and how Ronaldo presence affects team tactics and set up negatively. Juventus fans complained about Ronaldo all through last season and United fans are doing the same. Ronaldo is a problem.

Mrviktor:
Stop saying trash.

If you don't know how to read then that's your business not mine.

I still don't understand this talk about mentality all of a sudden. This is another overused cliche going around. We saw it last season how the boys always fight back countless time when falling behind and ended up winning numerous matches. You don't do that without a fighting spirit or being lazy. You don't need a cheerleader for that.

olabode89:
lol!

This Ronaldo matter suppose don tire everybody. I hope he leaves at the end of the season. He is a top 3 best player of all time but his acquisition messed up the team's attacking chemistry.

Three major things,

1. His build up play is shiit, same with Cavani

2. He tends to make pressure inducing passes to the midfield or sometimes fullback that messes up attacking plays

3. He took away the freedom giving to Greenwood to shoot whenever he is free. Ronaldo can be seen getting mad whenever Greenwood does not pass to him when he is on goal. The crazy thing is that he does the same thing that he complains about.

The most selfish and laziest player complaining about other players being lazy, selfish and not working hard enough. The irony is staggering. Apparently complaining and throwing your hands in the air makes one a winner.

weedtaker:
I have and I don’t understand what you mean by Ronaldo’s gameplay.

Is it that he’s a poor finisher or a lazy striker or a selfish player?

All of the above and more.

nitrogen:


Lool. You can’t even back up your assertions. Some of you will just come here and make unreasonable and shitty conclusions. At least try to think deeply about something before you type it here.

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Leyqute:
This is an example of what I was talking about.

Herd mentality.

There’s this mental laziness on this thread where people outsource their thinking to the herd.

Like most of the herd, this one that quoted me see everything in black and white.

I complain about an aspect of Ronaldo’s game = I think Ronaldo is uber useless and I am his enemy. Nothing else. No grey areas.

How about complaining about Ronaldo’s game = complaining about Ronaldo’s game?

And how about attacking the issue and not the poster?

No wonder the discus here has become boring and predictive. No nuances, just black and white views.

The double standard is shocking.

Rashford was scoring goals last season despite playing with injuries yet he was still criticized and heavily scrutinized cause his overall gameplay was not up to par.

Bruno was assisting and scoring last season yet he wasn't exempted from scrutiny as well. He was told to improve his general play and ball retention.

It seems Ronaldo is exempted from scrutiny on this forum.

nitrogen:
Answer the question na! Also, what’s Ronaldo’s position and task on the pitch? Is he the one affecting our defenders’ and midfielders’ games?

Continue whatever discussion you are having with others away from my mentions.

Mrviktor:
which new signing has made a bigger impact in the epl than ronaldo


set awon ronaldo is d problem..

without ronaldo we would be 11th now and out of the championsleague

What impact exactly has he had in the league?

He's had the 2nd most shots in the league, the 3rd highest npxG90, yet he sits in shared 10th in non penalty
goals in the league. Behind players like Dennis, Son, ESR, Bernardo Silva, Antonio, Vardy and on par with players
like Cornet, Gallagher, Saka, Mount and Maupey. How have we improved with him?

weedtaker:
What is Ronaldo’s game play, can you elaborate please.

Have you not been watching our matches.?

Juventus fans complained about Ronaldo game play last season, United fans are also complaining about Ronaldo. Two separate fan base complaining about the same thing is not a coincidence.

Amoto94:
Jesus was neither killed nor crucified and Abraham didn't sacrifice his son it was a test which he passed ( ram was used when he was about to slit throat), instead of you to stick to performing experiments in the lab or writing research papers to further your academic career you rather engage in telling lies about religion of people to sound smart. Teejay who do you like this?

I beg your pardon.

donjazet:
My friend shut that shithole you call a mouth.
You literally live in a country that treats pedophiles better than transgenders.
Are you blind to the fact that under Islamic law, I can literally marry two 12 year old girls as my wives? While I will be stoned to death if I was a transgender there.

I've told you to equip yourself better mentally before engaging in discourse like these.

I don't live in your country. Once again you are still typing more nonsense equating two things that are not related together. What's the relation between a person changing his gender and an adult who is sexually attracted to young children? You sound senseless to me no offense.

donjazet:
Comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

Both of those things are considered criminal many places which is why I am demanding for elucidation.
In many countries today, pedophiles and transgenders are grouped together and stoned to death.

So when I see people who claim to "live and let live", I see it as a weak stance. I want them to be more objective in their stance.

My question was basically boiling down to the "rights" of transgenders. Do you think they should be accorded equal basic human rights?
If you are, are you able to speak out for them?
I'm ashamed of you for your lack of comprehension. Do better next time.

There's nothing like comprehension issues regarding your post. It was simply disgusting, irritating and stupid. Nobody groups transgenders and pedophiles together except maybe in your head. There's no relation between both whatsoever. How does someone choice of gender deprive them from having equal basic human rights? That's a silly question to ask.

donjazet:
Just letting people do what makes them happy isn't good enough to form an opinion about something.
What if having sex with children made me happy? Will you apply this stance of whatever makes people happy.

I want people to objectively state their opinion on this issue, especially those outside the country who might have had close encounters with some of these people.

You are basically comparing a man deciding he wants to wear skirt or gown to having sex with children? Can you even hear yourself. You sound sick.

donjazet:
This sounds like an indifference towards them. Does this mean you don't necessarily support them?

You don't have to support it. Live and let live means "Let people do what makes them happy, and you do what makes you happy. Don't interfere in others lives.

Havertz10:
NBA finals is every year, super bowl is every year, they still get viewership and fanfare is still high

I don't understand football fans and their hate for change, everything should remain the same with no innovation.

This is such a lazy argument. All those examples you have given already happens in football with the Champions league. Changing a competition to two years is no innovation.

Ibime:
This year will not pass before you call someone illiterate for not speaking English properly.

They even call someone here hens brain just because English is not his first language.

Lukaku might be intelligent but using the fact he is Bilingual doesn't prove it. Equating being Bilingual to mean someone is intelligent makes no sense.

Ibime:
That nigga Italian after only 2 years of living there was flawless. Nigga get brain jor

How does learning language equate to intelligence?

The beginning of the end has started for Tuchel if you ask me. The drop in form the last couple of months and now I can't imagine Abramovich will be happy with Lukaku being dropped. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't last much longer with how trigger happy Chelsea board are.

Jodera:
Many players at mainstay in top team yet they still have limitations e.g Fred, jorginho, xhaka. No be same Fred wey guardiola court yet presently most man u fans won't fret if he's sold?

They're so many top talents that's heralded as next big team yet when they move to big clubs nobody will hear about them again. They abound well and there are examples.

My point is guardiola did well by turning them from good players to even better players. Heck, partey was more rated in athletico than this same Rodri if I'm not mistaken

You have changed the conversation. You have digressed from trying to paint those players as nobodies to accepting they where quality players before going to City. That's the bare minimum for each and every coach. Create a system that improves and fine-tunes your players abilities to make them better. I am sure Moyes, Arteta, and even Potter at Brighton have done that at their various teams. It's easier to do with 50million plus talented players tho.

Jodera:
I never liked Rodri at athletico to be honest. Maybe it was just me but he never really impressed me.

Jesus was rated quite alright but I'm not sure any top team in Europe would have draft him straight into the first team like the way pep did when he was ousting aguero. Even till now, I wouldn't want him as my striker. I don't know about you sha

Those are your opinions. That fact is Rodri was a mainstay at a top club and had many suitors including Barcelona. He was not a nobody that Pep turned to into something else. Gabriel Jesus was Brazil next big thing at that time as well and had many suitors in Europe gunning for his signature. The picture you are trying to paint won't fly.

Android17:
You know most of you don't research stuff before typing. No, it is not a joke.

Nigga I was mocking your thickness. City and Chelsea are not self sufficient in any way or form. When their owners leave with their injection of revenue, inflected sponsorships deals and finance both teams will crumble badly. Don't even compare City and Chelsea owners to United and Liverpool owners.

Jodera:
True. I remember cancelo at juventus, most people wouldn't have wanted him. In fact, I wasn't impressed with his time at juve and wouldn't want him in my team. Now eh, he's one kinda beast!.

Rodri?, Jesus?, zinchenko?,
I'm not sure most people would want the trio before Man city and I'm pretty sure most would have flopped sef

Rodri was wanted by Barca and was a mainstay at a top team. The entire Europe was after Gabriel Brazil next best thing. Guardiola didn't sign nobodies and turn them into Kaka.

Android17:
They have to spend what they generate and they have been doing so. The owners reinvested their revenue . That is why I said why is it City's fault if their owners care about their club rather than FSG or the Glazers who only care about profiteering?

This is a joke, right?

Android17:
LOL. Who told you City have not been self-sufficient for the last 5 years at the very least? You do know there is FFP that everyone has to comply with or will you just keep making unsubstantiated arguments?

How does complying with FFP make City self sufficient?

Android17:
I was giving an estimate of the billionaires within FSG that total close to that. Meanwhile, City have not spent any money that United, Chelsea and co have not proven they cannot spend. You cannot lampoon the City owners for running their club very well.

Am just trying to correct you. Liverpool and United are spending the money they make. Their owners are not injecting their personal cash into those clubs unlike Chelsea and City. Liverpool and United are self sufficient and run on their club generated profits unlike City and Chelsea that will crumble without their sugar daddies.

Android17:
FSG with owners worth totalling 100 billion dollars. Glazers with their billionaires. Chelsea with their billionaire but Manchester City have owners with a bottomless pocket (worth 30 billion dollars).

Fsg and glazers are not spending or injecting their personal money into their clubs unlike Chelsea and City owners. By the way Fsg is not worth 100billion.

A001:

I really hope your life is not boring and Sad.