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adisaaowala:
This needs to be addressed once and for all - we can't continue like this season after season.

It's really frustrating

I was expecting to see more people talking about this. There is never post match analysis here. It's only argument and agenda driving posts. Pogba was not effective at all and was very frustrated.

BARAJ92:
Which has be working really well, Currently they are the top favourites for the league.

Man City and Liverpool are top favorites.

Joezinho:
English refereeing needs an inquiry. They couldn't look at the monitor on any of the three Ronaldo penalty calls but called one on Shaw for something they said they wouldn't this year. He's a yard away and stretching for the ball, should he just not have hands?

Ronaldo went down too easily today at times. I think that influenced the ref decision not to give him anything.

slimghost:
My dear brother. I honestly do not know what to respond to this your post.

K

BARAJ92:
Chelsea using Eight defensive Players yet still attacking, abeg Tuchel na better coach.

They are defensive and result to counterattacks.

MRTA7:
I think Fred's problem might be his short legs.

Fred gets a lot of stick and rightly so but it wasn't just him today. Bruno gave the ball away a lot today AND his legs went around the 70 minutes

Pogba was poor. Spent most of the match roaming around the pitch looking for his best position. AWB was lost too.

slimghost:
Yes, this Chelsea. Why?

They are defensive minded, nothing spectacular or impressive like Man City or Liverpool.

Hope it's not this Chelsea people are hyping up here. They will result to defending now and looking for counterattacks and some will hail them here as being tactical.

patrickmuf:
You read but you don't understand...With Chelsea, you see a team that has a style of play and are complete in every area of the pitch and most importantly have a very good coach.

If we get a red card at Anfield, I am sure you guys will jump on that excuse for whatever the outcome of the game is but we saw Chelsea with a man down still threatening Liverpool something that Ole's Manchester United can never do...

But we didn't see Chelsea 1:0 up at home against West Brom with a red card and still get flogged silly conceding 5 goals with the same manager. They had a good day against a toothless Liverpool.

ChristineC:
the team he started would have won the game, no doubt about that. however, I'm of the opinion that you play your finest 11 and rest players after qualification (or the result) must have been sealed.
for that particular game, Dalot for Sancho (or Ronaldo) is still ok and the team saw out the first half. no complains.
based on the game dynamics, there was absolutely no reason for a back five switch. it's absurd because that leaves three midfielders to shield the back.
Pogba was giving the ball away constantly, the sensible thing is to take him out and not VDB who was just about the best player in the first half.
Pogba out for Matic, and retain a 4-4-1 diamond like shape. Fred and Bruno has the engine, the four in midfield can retain possession and Fernandes can easily support the lone man upfront when we break.
defensively we force them to attack from wide and their cross quality was subpar anyways.
Greenwood can come in for the lone guy upfront later in the game.
when you go a man down, you leave or introduce that player that the opposition know will take his opportunity if they sleep. that way you give them something to think about and not just pour forward to bombard you constantly.

Wrong in my opinion. You cannot take out Pogba who is the best long passer in the team especially when you are going to be sitting deeper. He is the only one who can create from deep . Ole always keeps his best players cause they can produce a moment of magic at any time which is understandable. Going to a back 5 was not the problem.

ChristineC:
the only sub he got right was Dalot. everything else was an invitation for pressure and plainly inexplicable.

So answer the question on how you would have lined up on Tuesday after that red card and what changes or what personal Ole got wrong with. Bring your alternative. To you he made wrong changes ok. Now bring your own correct changes.

melodyogonna:
My point is that taking out anyone wasn't necessary since there was no way of knowing which way the game would go just then.

You make proactive changes with ten Men not wait till anything happens before making changes.

melodyogonna:
Why should we move to back three? We got a red card 10 minutes before halftime, wetin we don play wey go warrant going more defensive?

Because Ole wanted a back 3 in anticipation of Young boys putting on another striker and to push Shaw and Dalot forward to act as wingbacks. You didn't answer my question. Out of Pogba, Bruno, Fred and Vdb, who would you take out when moving to a back 3?

melodyogonna:
He already made a sensible sub in the first half replacing Sancho with Dalot, there was no reason to take out VDB , that sub effectively gifted Young Boys the game

Clearly he wanted to move to a back three to allow Shaw and Dalot push forward more when we attack . Out of Pogba, Bruno, Fred and Vdb, who would you take out when moving to a back 3?

BARAJ92:
Football is not pure Mathematics. This is not the first time an underdog will be beaten a top team but the manner it was done is appaling. Why setup the team so defensive just because of a goal down. Major upset like this is not new, it doesn't mean the team can't go on to reach the later stage of champions league.
Some major upset in group stage that later went on to Perform strong in the competition. Bate Borisov 3 Bayern Munich 1 (Oct 2 2012)
Barcelona 1Rubin Kazan 2 (20 Oct 2010)
NB: Ole is solely to be blame for this our loss as he made the wrong substitution thinking he was making the best substitution he could have made.

So out of curiosity what substitution would you have made in that situation or which personal would you have brought in and who would you have removed? Could you elaborate on how you would have lined up yesterday after that red.

melodyogonna:
Plus international break. It's not really that early

It is. Nobody rotates or talks about fatigue 5games into a season.

melodyogonna:
Fernades is going to get fatigued if this coach doesn't rest him. Pogba, Van De Beek, Lingard, and Sancho can all play his position, not to mention we can always switch things up to accommodate for some absence. Ole is not showing the tactical flexibility you would like

It's too early to start talking about fatigue and resting players just 5games into the season.

eph12:
My question wasn't related to anything that happened yesterday

So what was your question related to?

eph12:
LMAO Sancho was supposed to come rescue that right wing. How is that going my people?

How is Sancho related to anything that happened yesterday?

KingAlabi:
We pressed well yesterday though, making the newcastle players play more of long balls, it is our defending setup against counter attack I am worried about.

Our own defensive play is shaky due to having no decent DMF, so when teams do attack us (like Newcastle courageously did yesterday, to their credit) we can be shaky. Hopefully with most teams we will score enough to overcome our defensive problems, but it will be interesting to see how that will work out against the top teams.

GloryIsaac:
I know we’re a very good counter-attacking team, but the loophole in defense, specifically defensive midfield, is worrisome.

Btw, was really impressed with Lingard yesterday, apart from his goal, he seemed to understand what Ronaldo wanted in his style of play.

Lingard genuinely looked like a new signing. Sharp and energetic when he came on and he could give us a real option this year.

elampiro:
He didn't play DM for us . Only on very few occasions. Our DMs since Ferguson has been Blind, Carrick, Schweisteiger, Sneiderlin, Matic, Fred/McTominay.

Herrera and Fellaini were occasionally used when there was no DM due to injuries

Every sensible person knows that. When there was no Dm available , we actually played with a fluid Midfield 3 with no specific Dm. Only a moro.n and an eplipetic patient would say Herrera was a Dm for United.

Trevor012:
There's absolutely nothing Herrera offers that would improve the current Man Utd squad. Passion merchant

He is a constant bench warmer for Psg and only two caps for Spain. He is and remains an average player at best.

patrickmuf:
Lukaku has improved his game, that's one thing you can't deny...

He is still the same donkey he was at United.

Expert17:
You're wrong Sir!!

He played DM in some games.

He was box to box midfielder for united. The occasional once on a blue moon Dm role is not what I am referring to.

nitrogen:
This was after the PSG offer. Stop chatting shit abeg.

I keep giving you links to buttress my stands. Now bring out those links to the nonsense you have been spouting.

nitrogen:
Lol. Herrera wanted 200k, man utd refused, was when PSG came knocking that Utd offered him 200k, but it was late.

He rejected the new deal cos they ridiculed him.

You are typing nonsense. All reports indicated united wanted to keep him and give him a 4yr contract but he refused.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsjoe.ie/amp/football/ander-herrera-turned-offer-manchester-united-almost-double-wages-198468

Expert17:
He can play anywhere in that midfield.

He never played Dm for United. Simple

nitrogen:
This your link get as e be. He wanted 200k abeg.

Various links reported the same thing. 350k
www.goal.com/en-us/amp/news/herreras-350000-wage-demands-led-to-man-utd-exit/s8e9vntd5ayg171nkfczic8hc


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsjoe.ie/amp/football/ander-herrera-turned-offer-manchester-united-almost-double-wages-198468

Lana1:
He wanted £200k.

350k

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.goal.com/en-us/amp/news/herreras-350000-wage-demands-led-to-man-utd-exit/s8e9vntd5ayg171nkfczic8hc&ved=2ahUKEwi05bvptvfyAhVyxoUKHVlXBLkQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0xFKJCPQMbZIj7KYYlImRd&ampcf=1

Herrera was never a Dm for united. He was always box to box and was normal, nothing spectacular or splendid. This is typical nonsense talk

Same Herrera who demanded for 350k or which one?