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FreeIgboho:
The context that changes it is that Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God, which is impossible because there is no mother. So "Son" here basically means "offshoot" of God, which of course is also God - which was also the decision unanimosly reached by some 300 bishops debating in Nicea for a month!

Read the OP for other reasons why he has to be God.

Here are some other reasons:

John 1:1,: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

AND
John 14:9 “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

AND
Mathew 16
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

AND
John 20:28
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

AND
John 8
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him... (for obviously claiming to be God)

AND
John 10:33,: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God,"

AND
Mark 14,: Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”
62 “I am,” said Jesus...
63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?”
(Here again Jesus uses the divine "I am"}

If you honestly study the whole Bible with an open heart, it will gradually dawn on you as it dawned on those 300 bishops and on the apostles themselves: This is God!

All you have written here are off point. I have no business with 50 million bishops doing the work of the antichrist. Indirectly you are saying that what Jesus said is useless because of the context you manufactured. You don't even understand the few scriptures you posted and you are talking about reading the whole bible.


Show me the context that shows that what Jesus said is useless. Focus on the key points

1. The Father is the ONLY TRUE God. John 17:3

2. The Father IS HIS God. Rev 3:12

Show us scriptures that nullify his words.

Whatever you are showing should be able to tell us that the Father is NOT the only true God. That the Father is NOT his God. Any other thing outside this will be off point and off context.

I cannot ask you to me something about TRUTH and you start telling me about TROUSER.

Ohyoudidnt:
😄 Allah is God and there is no god other than Allah.

Allah, the one, supreme worthy of all worship. The sole worthy of worship

Good, that what I want them to see.

They soon will come and add him to their trinity because of the capital G. Even idol worshiper use God for their own. We are looking at who is who not capital letter God.

Jehovah God is the only true God.

This slays everything to pieces.

Boomark:
You agreed to answer my question. And I have answered you in the links below. I won't answer any other thing until you answer my own question you have been dodging.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136158289

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136159092

I defeated you in your own question. Try and defeat me here let's see. You are free to run away or say irrelevant things as usual.

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.


Ken4Christ
StillDtruth
MightySparrow
Steep
And all trinitarian should answer this question if you are not scared of me. Yes I know. Answer my question if you think otherwise.

I am Boomark of God. The great slayer of those who have rejected Christ.

To all those who are hiding and have refused to answer this question. Hear what our Lord Jesus said:

John 12:47-50 NIV
[47] “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. [48] There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. [49] For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. [50] I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

Continue looking for the context you can use to reject his words. Satan and the antichrist are happy and smiling at their handiwork.

I didn't come to argue with anyone but to slay and go on slaying. So no one will say kpim against the truth. The original post is beautifully standing unopposed. No room for any false contexts.

My job is to slay while you flee.

I am Boomark of God

Ohyoudidnt:
the use of the term is solely for mutually understood comprehension.

I may not understand you well though

Like

Allah is God or Allah is god.

Gabrielshow24:
You must show us how this in any disproves Jesus' divine nature and substance? 🤨

It's like saying because Messi called Maradona the goat that it negates the 🐐-like characteristics of Messi! 🤨

Make it make sense!
This is what happens to people that fail to take context into view!

There is no context that will change the fact that the Father is the only true God. There no context that will change the fact that Christ is the holy servant of God. There is no context that will change the fact that our God is his God. He said all these by himself.

The work of your context is to twist what he said.


Let those who think they are capable answer the question. They will just see how they oppose the words of Jesus Christ. They don't belong to him all those who reject his sayings.


John 12:47-50 NIV
[47] “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. [48] There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. [49] For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. [50] I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

Continue looking for context to reject his words. Satan and the antichrist are happy.

Ohyoudidnt:
Simply because the majesty of Allah is far beyond that and there's nothing likened or comparable unto him. He is above everything. Creates and sustains all other things.

When you write God or god for Allah?

Ohyoudidnt:
Infinite D, 3-D, 5-D may not be necessary when you want to explain simply. Using these make you seem like another group that claim an odd awareness or frequency spiritism. The ones I know are atheists

You are figuring him out. When you are through you will see the fullness of antichrist in him. Christians don't use 3-D to describe anything. We read and accept things that are written in simple english. Just like the question I asked all of them, you saw how reject what Jesus said in plain english and twisted it.

You saw how he reduced the quality of the fullness of God in Ephesians 3:19 by himself. Like one in Colossians 2:9 is full while the other one not full. Making mockery of the fullness of God. Mockery of what was inspired by the Holy spirit. When fullness is no longer fullness as it is written. When they call intelligent people you will see such people coming out.

The antichrist at work. You should understand.

Ruke1990:
We concluded that Jesus is God. The Jehovah's witnesses here on nairaland were unable to disprove it or argue further because the evidences were too many with plenty sophisticated verses from the scripture. Here is the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/8420353/jesus-god-why-did-he

Towards the end, the JW team fled. They stopped responding because they were rendered speechless

Go and read and become speechless. If you you feel you can say anything just answer the question below or return to speechless mode.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.


And all trinitarian should answer this question if you are not scared of me. Yes I know. Answer my question if you think otherwise.

I am Boomark of God. The great slayer of those who have rejected Christ.

Gabrielshow24:
You didn't, the response you gave failed to reconcile the seeing of God by prophet of old and your remark "he that has seen me talking like my mother has seen my mother" —personalized for emphasis! Falls short.

English is your hurdle, you can't seem to understand. Likewise, I have answered your question and I repeat it once more for clarity!
The Son glorified the Father and the Father in return has glorified the Son with a name above every other name and has subjected everything and everyone under him!

As you all can see, I never asked him if Jesus is singing, praying or glorifying the Father. I never asked him if the Father is glorifying the son. Non of these are in what Jesus said in those scriptures.

So he has been slayed to pieces for rejecting what Christ said about the Father.

To all those who still believe in trinity, this is how you all are. Satan has used tricks to turn you to antichrist.

If you see yourself trying so hard to accept what Christ said from the option I gave or you decide to twist what Jesus Christ said in those scriptures, know that you are of the devil, simple.

Your trinity doctrine is of the devil. A subtle way to make people stand against Christ and Jehovah the only true God.

Boomark is a true Christian and Boomark is a true Christian church. I love this act of providence. Greetings to his colleagues in Antioch.

Boomark of God. The slayer of those who refused to accept what Christ said about his God in plain english

Gabrielshow24:
Boomark, kindly explain to us the implication of this statement. Since according to you "Jesus is not the Fullness of God" 😅!

Remember your previous response "Jesus is a God but not God almighty" and how it ended🤣. The same response prompted my question: "What's the difference between God and God almighty?" 👀 A question you haven't provided an answer to😅.

Janosky kindly help your brother! For we know English is hard for you both but it shouldn't be this hard🤔!

You agreed to answer my question. And I have answered you in the links below. I won't answer any other thing until you answer my own question you have been dodging.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136158289

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136159092

I defeated you in your own question. Try and defeat me here let's see. You are free to run away or say irrelevant things as usual.

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.


Ken4Christ
StillDtruth
MightySparrow
Steep
And all trinitarian should answer this question if you are not scared of me. Yes I know. Answer my question if you think otherwise.

I am Boomark of God. The great slayer of those who have rejected Christ.

Janosky:
Nah so Dem dey change the holy Bible to suit what they want.

Nah him friend put "IS" @John 1:1.

Bot has been dealing with me.

That's why they are all confused. They don't know who Jehovah God the Father is. They think of trinity anywhere they see God in the bible. This is the reason they feel embarrassed when they see what they don't understand and they use lies to cover up.

MightySparrow:
Simple explanation you can give, you are just typing nonsense here.

See how I replied you from the bottom of my heart in the picture. I need to be sure you are okay.

Brenbentondiaz:
I've stopped bothering about these people that use all sorts of mental gymnastics and gross scriptural misinterpretation to push this their trinity doctrine. Christ clearly said He has a God, someone says Christ didn't know what he was saying. That Christ is that same God. Those that'll be lost will be list.

When you continue reading you will see how they dodge questions, tell l.i.e.s and and pretend they don't understand simple english in questions.

Satan will be rejoicing at his handiwork.

Chibuezem:
lol what words of Jesus Christ did I reject?

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.

MightySparrow:
You have not logically explained the conception of Jesus by a single parent. You mentioned possibility among lower animals but not humans

Logically explain. Then you took my post halfway and gave warped explanation.

Explain what I pointed out logically.

Are you sure I am the one you are discussing with or you are doing this to paint me as a Dodger?

Please where did I explain any birth thing to you before?

Wonders shall never end. I am in shock already.

The delusion is real.

Gabrielshow24:
do you know what you are saying? Colossians 2:9 "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. " This verse speaks against you.

Or don't you understand the implications of this verse? 👀 If the conclusion of this verse were asked in that special waec centre of yours. What will be your answer?

What you posted said, "IN Christ LIVES all the fullness of God..' I didn't see, Jesus IS the fullness of God.

So where did it say that Jesus is the fullness of God? Or you are an antichrist twisting the word of God?

Gabrielshow24:
I have told you, the son glorifies the Father and the Father as well glorified the son by giving him a name above every other name!

What aspect of this don't you understand? In Authority the Son honors the Father and the Father likewise has made all honor the Son as they honor Him!

Your false dichotomy falls short!

I didn't ask you to teach me anything.

Do you BELIEVE what Jesus said in those scriptures?

1. From the scriptures above, do you believe that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ?

Gabrielshow24:
By their fruits we shall know them😂. Person wey dodge question about difference between "God" and "God almighty" 😂. The same person Wey dodge question about reconciliation of scripture about "seeing" God(Ancient of days). Person wey l.ie say I accuse am falsely😂. Person wey avoid question about "seeing infinite-Dimensioned God" ? Person wey dey confused about scripture; this moment "Jesus is the fullness of God", the next moment "Jesus is the fullness of God, can only be found in the book of the Antichrist 😂". As un.-stable as water!

Talk is cheap, you must back it up with substance 😂! Should I continue? I don't need long talk, everyone can see you goofed big time🤣.

Oya continue by answering this my question you have been dodging.

I said do you BELIEVE what Christ said in those scriptures?

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.



1. From the scriptures above, do you believe that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ?

I don't need you to tell me stories. Do you believe or you don't believe?

Gabrielshow24:
so is Jesus not the fullness of God? 😅

Show us scripture where it is written that Jesus is the fullness of God.

I want to show people how you twist the word of God. I have screenshot of it also.

Chibuezem:
There's nothing you can do about bookman other than to pray for him to understand. I personally knew it would be a waste of time trying to convince him. It's the reason why I didn't delve deep into scripture. I wasn't led to talk trinity with him, I simply wanted to see his facts and understand how he reasons. And I must say it was fun 😂😂😂

Was is it funny that you are dodging my question and giving me irrelevant answers?

You have already seen that I cannot be fooled with all those scriptures I have. My friend gohf is even caring and trying to teach you. But I don't want peace With just one question I have now in my head I will scatter everything you think you know. The truth cannot be scattered by a simple question.

MightySparrow:
That does not mean you are not confused yourself in spite of the revelation.

What is the logic behind the things about Jesus I mentioned? I see you dodged that.

I am not confused about anything. Your confusing is because of the false doctrine you are believing in.

The 1st time you are chatting me here and you are already saying I dodged what you asked or told another person. Please no l,_ies, I have seen a lot of it from trinity people.

Ask me your question

You can see I increased the volume. That's the confidence you get from belonging to the truth. Use your sense, see how Gabrielshow24 dodged the question I asked him about what Christ said and you will know those who are of satan and has rejected Christ.

I learnt a lot on nairaland by watching those who dodge questions and those who answer. What they dodge are likely to be true. I read more about it and pack to my knowledge.

Make every effort to be for Christ and not for any pastor or church. They will not save you on that day when everyone will come before the presence of Jehovah God and Christ who they have rejected.

So go ahead and ask.

Ken4Christ:
You didn't ask any question. You just made a post.

Rephrase your questions. Stop posting Screenshots.

God the Father is God
Jesus, his Son is God
The Holy Spirit is God.

But they are not three Gods but one God in three persons.

If you believe that the Holy Spirit is God, why can't you believe that Jesus is God?

John 1:1 say so. Do you want to rewrite the Bible?

God is a Spirit. You can’t see him in physical form. If you want to see God in physical form, look at Jesus.

Jesus is the express image of God in physical form.

When you are sleeping, you see yourself elsewhere in the dream. Are you two persons? You are one human being but manifest yourself in different form in different realms. If humans nature can be this complicated, why do you think God can't manifest himself in three persons?

I think you are trying to figure it out. You can’t figure out spiritual things. You must have the Spirit of God to understand spiritual things. It doesn't make sense to the carnal mind.

This one don't even know meaning of question mark "?" as seen in the question I asked him and he is here teaching trinity. On page 3 at 3:39 pm , in the last statement I made, I didn't use picture to ask him that question.

The screenshot below is just evidence that they all have a big problem. They are all in the business of l,_ying and deceiving people.

Please I don't know what I will be discussing with someone who doesn't understand english nor ordinary question mark. It is very possible that everything you think you know now is falsehood.

Chibuezem:
You are doing well dealing blows keep up the good work but I tell you the greatest work you can do is to propagate the Gospel of our lord Jesus Christ and show love to your neighbor outside of this you are chasing shadows.

My brother if you reject the words of Jesus Christ and embraced the doctrines of antichrist, you are just wasting your time preaching the gospel for him.

Go and asked the men who did same Matthew 7:21-23. Christ has no business with those who disregard his Father and the commands that came from the Father through him.

Gabrielshow24:
Jesus in glorifying his Father said so himself, that his Father is his God. How does this negate the "God" nature in Jesus?

This is not what I asked you.

I said do you BELIEVE what Christ said in those scriptures?

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.



1. From the scriptures above, do you believe that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ?

I don't need you to tell me stories. Do you believe or you don't believe?

Gabrielshow24:
God's nature, Christ, can be in every man. You are not wise, I can see that clearly. How have you rendered it useless, if I may ask?

Your ignorance won't let you see that all indications points to us being like Jesus who by the way is the fullness of God 😂.

Rendered use.less... Indeed😅

So Jesus is now the fullness of God according to the bible of the antichrist?

It like you came here to mock the word of God and make fun of Christians by lying anyhow you want?