Celebrities › Re: Omogoriola Hassan Is King Of Uba Land by Born2Breed(f): 11:38am On Jan 08, 2021 |
Ifa wey dey chop bribe |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Woman Shot Dead Inside US National Assembly (Video) by Born2Breed(f): 5:16am On Jan 07, 2021 |
Golan007: Where is DJ SWITCH when you need her? Still 50yrs behind us. You will be alright. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump During BLM Protest VS When His Supporters Invaded The US Capitol by Born2Breed(f): 5:14am On Jan 07, 2021 |
Same applies in Nigeria.
When Fulani herdsmen are in rampage the govt will give soothing words but if it's endsars then you hear threat of all sorts. |
Crime › Re: Female POS Operator Disarms Two Armed Robbers In Edo by Born2Breed(f): 9:50am On Dec 30, 2020 |
Shoot them at sight. We don't want these criminals. |
Events › Re: The Party That Made LASG Seal And Revoke License Of Queen's Park(video/pictures) by Born2Breed(f): 10:25am On Dec 28, 2020 |
What about Koko Zaria hotel opening?
The crowd there was also massive. |
Family › Re: I Have Not Travelled Home For 10 Years? Help by Born2Breed(f): 12:50am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Sebastine1994: When half of my neighbors have travelled, I am now left alone in the compound. every year it is only me who remains back, I am ashamed. I can't go home. I offended my family so much.
I was deported from South Africa for drug trafficking, my father spent all his life saving to send me abroad, I went there to do drugs,
Now I have my freedom, but my heart remains in chain, seeing my family struggling financially because of me and the failed investment on me. I am depressed because of this.
I can't call them, I don't know what to do. I may take my life if the emotional torture becomes much. Pray as if hard work is not needed and work hard as if prayer is not needed. Believe in yourself and you will.make your folks very proud soon. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Clueless As Criminals Overrun Nigeria - Punch by Born2Breed(f): 2:17pm On Dec 23, 2020 |
 Lol They called Jonathan clueless, devil decided to give Nigeria a clueless president so they know the true meaning of cluelessness. |
Celebrities › Re: Rarara, 'APC Musician', Accused Of Eloping With A Married Woman by Born2Breed(f): 2:12pm On Dec 23, 2020 |
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Phones › Re: NIN: Network Operators To Be Enrolment Agents For NIMC, Says ALTON by Born2Breed(f): 10:56am On Dec 23, 2020 |
Hackers will have a field day our information. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Says Only God Can "Effectively Police" Nigeria, Niger Border by Born2Breed(f): 10:45am On Dec 23, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Amotekun Combs Oyo Forest, Goes After Female Quarry Worker’s Abductors by Born2Breed(f): 10:33am On Dec 23, 2020 |
Go after them, rescue the captives and exterminate every kidnapper and their offspring. |
Celebrities › Re: Seun Kuti Arrested Over Shooting Incidence On His Street And Released by Born2Breed(f): 10:29am On Dec 23, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: President Buhari Commissions Nigeria's Largest Onshore LPG Plant In Edo State by Born2Breed(f): 10:01am On Dec 23, 2020 |
Ologbo for Oredo  Well, I'm not "shocked" like Buhari cos he didn't initiate the project so he wouldn't know the exact location. As for the bunch of idiots including the mannerless dead dog seller, singing the praises of the demented Daura cow lover, may your life be ruined the way Buhari is running Nigeria affair and the downstream sector in particular. |
Culture › Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom by Born2Breed(f): 4:30pm On Dec 22, 2020 |
 oyalunasamuel: 1). Their story of kingship began with an Edo prince called Izoduwa as recorded by unimpeachable historical records and corroborated by Benin recorded History.
(2). Ayayi Crowder,a recaptured Yoruba Slave who later became a bishop said, little were know about yoruba existence, clearly meaning they were not originally part of the Nigeria of today and neither were they settlers within its geographical boundaries but were in small settlements close to Dahomey. Most Yorubas today are either Muslims or Christians and those with African traditions copied or got them from Benin civilization. It doubtful if they are not immigrants from dahomy mixed with Benins or other fulani-hausa from Niger . Bishop Samuel Adjayi Crowther (c. 1809 – 31 December 1891) Was the first African Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Born in Osogun (in today's Iseyin Local Government, Oyo State, Nigeria). His grandson was Herbert Macaulay
(3). Yoruba have dublicity of kingships with the process highly polarized than being traditional.A system they tried to copy from Benin but have not been able to get right like the Benin Kingdom. Edo Obaship is one of the most revered institutions in the world because of the way it has sustained its awesome prestige with strict and meticulous attention to ancient traditions of valour, discipline and integrity. Edo chieftaincy titles cannot be bought or conferred on non-indigenes or frivolously. Every Edo chief performs a peculiarly sacred duty and responsibility to the people of Edo. It does not make sense, therefore, to think that a people who would not and have never conferred their chieftaincy titles on non-indigenes, would voluntarily invite, accept, or surrender to non-indigenes as their kings. Note that due to celestial and customary taboos,the Edo monarch cannot eat out and cannot be diverted from full time palace duties to hustle things that have no beneficial value to his domain.
(4). Most traditional religions being practiced by the Yorubas today are of Benin Origins.Olokun, Ogun, Iha oguega(ifa), oronmila, Esago(shango), Ayelala etc.Benin traditions,mystic and spirituality are stillfully documented and yorubanized by Yorubas in positions of affluence. Edo people today are predominantly Christians with some denying their traditional religious origins. But,it has not been possible to exterminate our traditional practice because it is embedded firmly in our ways of life. Although the Great Edo (Benin) Kingdom was not major participant in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, because the Obas (Kings) believed that their subjects were too valuable to sell away, and their noblemen had need of war captives on their own farms, the influence of Edo religion and medicine have still been substantial on the people of the Americas. According to Mason (1996), it has been widely accepted that Olokun (god of the sea) worship originated with the Edos and spread to the Yoruba (p.2). In fact, the most prominent part of Edo cultural traditions that has made its mark in the New World is Olokun worship. Olokun (god of the Waters, known as Osiris in Egypt) worship originated from Urhonigbe and then became prominent at Ughoton,around the Ethiope (Olokun) River. The priesthood and rituals were firmly established at the time. Some of the possible points of contact happened early. During the Ogiso Period, trade with the Yoruba and Igbos was quite extensive. Olokun worship may have spread to those areas through traders. Prior to the Oba Period,Ekaladerhan Izoduwa was initiated into Olokun as a chief Priest while he stayed at Ughoton, before his moving westward with his followers to establish Ilefe (Ero,1999,p.108-109). Once he arrived, Ekaladerhan Izoduwa brought Edo traditions to those areas and was a King of his new community called Ilefe, which could be what yoruba call IFE. . From Ekaladerhan Izoduwa’s loins, the Yoruba dynasties may have began. However, it is certain that Olokun is an Edo divinity whose worship spread to the outlying Yoruba areas. During the trans- Atlantic slave trade, slave raids were launched upon Yoruba and Ibo territories. Europeans were able to obtain some of the greatest amounts of West Africans from both Yoruba and Ibo land (Crosby,1992, p.136). In the 18th century in Iboland at Isseke, slave raiders took a famous Edo subject named Olaudah Equiano, who later wrote about the encounter. Olaudah traveled to the New World and then to England, learned to read and write English, and shared his religious and cultural experiences. Many Edo traditions were directly and indirectly incorporated into the New World through its far reaching colonies. The Edo Kingdom extended from the boundary with Oyo in the north (Otun) to the Atlantic in the south, beyond Asaba to River Niger, and up to Eko (Lagos) in the west. Both Edo religion and medicine have already been taken to those domains, following traditional practices originating in Edo land.
(5). Benin ruled over what today known as Yorubaland, IFE, EKITI, LAGOS, OGUN, OWO, ONDO ETC
(6). Benin through Oba Orhogbuan founded lagos and ruled Lagos through royal viceroys whose descendants are today the traditional rulers of Lagos.The rights of who owns Lagos is not disputable.Lagos was a Benin town with a Benin Duke who paid tribute to the Oba of Benin indeed his chiefs were the descendants of noble Benin families. The Benin empire ran Lagos for over 400 years before the colonial powers took over. Though there were some migrant yorubas from togo during british presence in lagos, but they formed not the rulers of the town but the subjects of the Oba just like we find in the United Kingdom today where people are subjects of the queen of England and not citizens. We will explain citizenship rights to you later in another treatise.
(7). Benin first to meet Europeans ( . "Oba" is a word adopted from Benin and not Yoruba as many made us to believe. There is no king of Yoruba's people. and if there is, what was his title?;how many Yoruba prominent traditional leaders/rulers carried the title Oba? since when?.if Yoruba calls their king Oba,it doesn't mean we derived our king's name (N'Oba) from them. Everyone has a name for king in the their native language/tongue. The Oba of Lagos is Eleko of Eko not Oba, the British change it to Oba. the Origin of word "oba" is Benin
(9). They never conquered any territory but rather struggle with their neighbours before and after the first encounter with Europeans slave hunters.
(10). "Edo" have no linguistic relationship with Yoruba. Words like Eko,Idu Ganran,Yaba,Oshodi,Osa,Eti-Osa,idu-magbo,Idu- mota have no Yoruba origin but Edo's.
(11). Note history is subject to scientific diagnosis and many historic writtings in the past about Benin-yoruba have been proved by archaeologies and scientist as erroneous and false.
(12). Many Yoruba being those in the forefront of Nigeria history writers wrote history textbooks used in Nigeria institutions and thus had the benefit of making their yoruba look like leading culture with the richest history for nigerians.
(13). Yorubas exploiting their privilege of imbibing the whiteman's education first have been peddling falsehood in Nigeria,British and other western universities misleading Africans with grammar and academic titles. They confuse other external scholars about the true realities of African history, implanting those false history into African -America books without the knowledge of the Edo King.
(14). Yorubas engaged the highest in slave raiding in their togo-oyo region which stretched to lagos during slave trade. see http://ihuanedo.ning.com/ …/to…/ yoruba-enslavement-of-african
(15) Yoruba never colonized Benin but Benin colonized many Yoruba settlements.
(16) Yoruba is not in anyway related to Igbo ancestral history
(17) Yoruba was not in anyway related to itsekiri history. There could be later migrants during the European exploration and commerce but not related to the itsekiri ancestral lineage. Never mind all the title of "Olu" in the region,it is a title contrived to replace the original which is "Ode" of Itsekiris.
(18) Bishop Ajayi crowder and Obafemi Awolowo made Yoruba known today as an ethnic group in Nigeria
(19) How can an Empire be inside an Empire? Many so called yoruba territories of today never existed in the past but were invented and stillfully documented into dubious historical records.
(20) Most of their books and publications are mere opinions of the writers concocted inside their rooms without scientific researches or facts-finding visits to Ancient Benin for archaeological veracity. Covered up with self hate, jealousy and envy of the Great Benin, bias and leftish in many of their so called Nigerian history,they tried to re-invent a history that diminishes our political greatness.
(22) Many Yorubas in Lagos today came as migrant workers for British companies and their construction projects.That is why you have a lot of their photographs with whites. Britain also used them as colonial officers.
(23) Before Britain or before the punitive expedition of 1897, Yorubas have no mega state to be found as the recognized major ethnic group in lagos were Edos.
(24) Where is Yoruba ancient flag or before 1897? ( Quote) ( Report ) (Like ) (Share )
Re: 50 Reasons Why Yoruba Never Had An Empire But Civilized By Benin by thekingisback : 10:30pm On Feb 09 (25) Their loyalty to slave masters, British merchant gave them the huge presence in lagos, Americas and England
(26) The word Yoruba has it's roots in Yoruba.The fulani used to call the Oyo people Yoruba.There was no really united Yoruba nation till awolowo came with a cooked up Oduduwa myth with the intention of uniting them under them with advent of Egbe omo Oduduwa clearly for political mileage.The ones that came to the Americas were identified as lucumi which is corrupted from olukumi.
(27) The Ooni of Ife,the Alake of Abeokuta ( Egba), the Olubadan of Ibadan,the Oba of Oshogbo, the Deji of Akure,the Oba of Lagos,the Ugbo of Ugboland,the Owu of Owo etc have no historical records that they were ever ruled by an empire with such name. Rather,the Oba of Lagos,the Deji of Akure and all the traditional rulers in present day ondo and Ekiti states have indubitable records that they were once part of the old Benin empire.
(28) The capital of the fathom Oyo empire is alleged to be Oyo-Ile. This is a community that is not as big as Uromi township. It is smaller than many headquarters of south western city states currently existing. It is not as big as Eyaen in Benin city. How come the capital of such great empire ( sic!) is so small and a far cry from any that is known in history? The false historians failed woefully to cover this jigsaw puzzle.
(29) The Kingdom of Nupe was an acephalous community but in the 17th century,it sacked Oyo . Evicted it from Borgu and made it to relocate its capital to OYO Igoho, another hamlet community that can never qualify as capital of a dukedom let alone an empire. Now, most of the communities of Nupe were tribute payers to the Benin empire and never Benin conquerors.
(30) It is on incontrovertible record that,the colonialist never met an empire called Oyo when they came to Nigeria but they did meet the Benin Empire in all her glory having Suzerainty over many Yoruba speaking city states like Lagos,Akure,Ado,Idoani,Ondo,Igbokoda,Owo,Ifon,Ekiti, etc. infact, it is the admission of the fact by many of these coastal states that their overlord is the Oba of Benin that led to the European interest to visit the Oba and settle supremacy once and for all. Oba Ovoramwen Nogbaisi was the one they eventually clashed with. Recall that as early as the 14th century, the Oba of Benin has had positive and co-equals interactions with the Portuguese Empire.
(31) Look closely at the map in pix one hereto. That is the colonial Map of Benin. It is less than half of what it was before the whiteman came. Still at that, it shows the whole of the current Midwest,nearly the whole western states including the whole Lagos, some eastern states and north central communities as part of the empire of Benin they met. Now, tell me, where is the geo-political delineation of the mythical oyo empire created by Ola Biola,Olatun Bonsun et al?
(32) How come Oyo-Ile the capital of the contrived OYO is today not the most important city in Yorubaland as Benin city is in Edo. Many old cities that survive still remain the seats of governments. Sokoto,Benin city etc. but the alleged Capital of old oyo hardly ranks as a local government headquarters. This is not consistent with the Yoruba nature which accords much respect to traditional authority and culture. The explanation is simple. There never was such an empire with such a small community as capital city. The proud Yoruba man can never accept such scandal. The capital of their city states like Ibadan,Abeokuta etc is enough to take care of their territorial pride,not the scandalous hamlet of OYO- Ile.
(33) Do you know that there is hardly a Yoruba community except the much mentioned Oyo-Ile,that has no exclusive language of its own that is not Yoruba. These various Yoruba languages are mutually unintelligible to each other. The current general Yoruba evolved from markets that was then mainly that of slave trading.
(34) Now, unlike the Benins and most indigenous Nigerian kingdoms,the Yorubas have the most exported slaves in diaspora. They are very many in the Caribbeans and in Brazil. Do you know why? This is because,it is easy to sell people who are not from the same stork with you.except for criminals,Benin and other kingdoms do not sell their citizens. This again clearly show that a monolithic oyo empire was a lie. The Yorubas had warring and hostile city states and were never united under one pre-colonial power. Chief Awolowo was once rejected by them at the polls as Ijebu( fake) Yoruba. Ironically, it was the same man that came out with the concept and in fact united them as one common political people. That is why they worship him second only to Oduduwa.
(35) Do you know that even their historians admitted the truth in their text books that Oramiyan after leaving Benin founded OYO empire. It is very obvious that Benin is older by far than the fathom Oyo Empire. What is however curious is that, if Ajaka,Shango,Ogun all later children of Oramiyan were deified to be worshipped by the Yorubas, how come Oramiyan's eldest son ( Eweka) who established the most powerful dynasty on earth was not included in their list of deities. This further lend weight to the argument that the history of the Yoruba empire was all about tribal glorification. Anyway, Oduduwa their alleged founder was actually Prince Izoduwa ( Ekhalederan) the only son of the last Ogiso of the first Benin dynasty-Owodo who was banished so that his father could have other children. This is a story for another day.
(36) It still beat me why other Africa historical states only have Benin on their record not OYO empire. Dahomey the alleged neighbour of old OYO recognized Benin as not only its cradle but its main powerful neighbour. Find this extract from Wikipedia interesting..
(37) According to the Wikipedia article on the People’s Republic of Benin, the new name was chosen to reflect the Benin Empire “that had once flourished in neighboring Nigeria.” Most sources, however, maintain that the new name referenced not the Empire but the Bight of Benin, the adjacent stretch of the Atlantic Ocean. The country’s new leaders rejected the name “Dahomey” because they considered it too ethnically exclusive, since the old kingdom of that name had been closely identified with the Fon people of the coastal zone. The new name, based on physical geography, seemed less divisive—even though the term “Benin” ultimate derives from the former Benin Kingdom of the Edo people in what is now Nigeria. The capital of that state, Ubinu, gave rise to the term “Benin City,” which was generalized to cover the entire kingdom, and was subsequently applied to the adjacent sea. We have never doubted our relationship with the Yorubas. Everything natural points to the fact that they are our cousin. What We however disapprove is their attempt to use their privileged premier schooling by the whiteman to re-write history by distorting the true one and concocting a fake one that undermines the superiority of the old Benin empire over their city states.
(38) Here is a beautiful example of Rigobert Bonne's 1770 decorative map of West Africa. Covers from the Gold Coast (modern day Ghana), south around the Bight of Benin to Gabon, Congo and Angola. Includes the modern day countries of Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Congo and Angola. As with most maps of Africa, this map shows excellent detail along the coast and only speculation in the interior. Give evidence of significant Belgian mapping activities throughout the Congo. Names numerous African Kingdoms including Anzico, Mujaco, Bembe, Lubolo, Pemba, Dembi, Calbongo, Bake-Bake, Benin and others. Attempts to map the Niger River as to flows into the Desert de Seth or Saghara, but most of this cartography is speculative at best. Drawn by R. Bonne in 1770 for issue as plate no. B 30 in Jean Lattre's 1776 issue of the Atlas Moderne ." here there was no mention of any empire or people called yoruba or oyo empire Source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/ …/ File:1770_Bonne_Map_of_West_… |
Politics › Re: COVID-19 Measures Not To Deny Churches Of Offerings, Tithes - Lauretta Onochie by Born2Breed(f): 1:06pm On Dec 22, 2020 |
Palmwine talking |
Politics › Re: Repentant Bandits Helped To Secure Kankara Schoolboys Release — Garba Shehu by Born2Breed(f): 1:05pm On Dec 22, 2020 |
Nigeria is on auto pilot. |
Romance › Re: She Just Can't Stop Calling by Born2Breed(f): 1:02pm On Dec 22, 2020 |
Another teenager |
Politics › Re: Governor Zulum: Nigerian Army Has Failed Borno Residents by Born2Breed(f): 10:55am On Dec 22, 2020 |
This idiot is here lying again. Borno is very secure and the soldiers are doing everything to protect the citizens. |
Culture › Re: Olu Of Warri, Ikenwoli Godfrey Has Died Of COVID-19 Disease - Sahara Reporters by Born2Breed(f): 9:00am On Dec 22, 2020 |
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Education › Re: VIDEO:Woman Cries For Help, Son Was Sexually Molested At Deeper Life High School by Born2Breed(f): 5:44am On Dec 22, 2020 |
So painful |
Politics › Re: Ishaq Bello, Nigeria Nominee To ICC, Rejected After Securing 5 Out Of 110 Votes by Born2Breed(f): 8:10am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Locally you can hide incompetence under the Nigeria quota system but it's obvious Internationally. |
Politics › Re: Governor Umahi's Massive Convoy At UNN (Video) by Born2Breed(f): 8:49am On Dec 19, 2020 |
No other like Peter Obi |
Politics › Re: Northern Governors Refuse To Hold meeting About GSSS Kankara- Reno Omokri by Born2Breed(f): 3:55am On Dec 18, 2020 |
The North is secure but the Northern leaders are insecure.
A divided Nigeria is their end, they know it and are scared of it. |
Politics › Re: Photos Of Kidnapped Kankara Students After Their Release by Born2Breed(f): 3:50am On Dec 18, 2020 |
Action film |
Politics › Re: Goodluck Jonathan: If Not For God, I Would Have Been Buried Politically by Born2Breed(f): 9:03am On Dec 16, 2020 |
Correct man. |
Politics › Re: [video] Eastern Security Network Seen Patrolling Biafrans Farmlands {video} by Born2Breed(f): 7:54am On Dec 16, 2020 |
Everyone should protect their region by any means necessary. |
Politics › Re: Give Priority To Agriculture, Minister Advises Nigerians by Born2Breed(f): 5:51am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Farming in Nigeria is now suicidal. If it's not Boko Haram slaughtering farmers then it's herdmen exterminating them. |
Travel › Re: Should I Invest In Nigeria Or Wait Until I Get A Permanent Stay In Abroad? by Born2Breed(f): 2:33pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Basalt: Goodmorning Ladies and Gentlemen. I am Basalt by name and I came to Germany last year(2019) October for my MSc studies with a little amount of Money and a partially borrowed block account from my inlaw (his money and my money). On arrival in Germany, I took only a few courses and got a job outside my city and also got a mini-job. I did all my monthly expenses from my Mini job and used my main job to completely pay back my debt within a few months of arrival.
Now, that's not the discussion at hand. I need advice especially from people who have lived abroad or have many years of experience in life. My visa still counts till 2022 and I can even extend it if I don't finish my studies by then. According to German policy, once you graduate from the University, you will be given 18 months to get a professional job or return back to your country. Returning back to Nigeria is totally out of my plan at least for now because I came from a very poor family without any job connection and I am really enjoying Europe. I plan to buy land or start building a house (I saved millions of naira and will even save more as time goes) but my friend who is also a student here discouraged me against that saying that my root is not yet fixed abroad that I should wait and continue investing in myself and undergoing professional training until I get permanent residency before investing. That I should always keep saving because it is not certain that I will get a professional job after graduation since my course is not in Information Technology which is currently booming in Germany. That even if I don't get a job, I can use the money to migrate to Canada or any other country of my choice. He asked What if you invest the money now and don't get a job after graduation, what will you do after the 18 months of post graduation visa since you don't have any backup from home who will help you out financially.
What do you guys think. I need opinions Your friend name na Solomon? See sense. You not need any advice here, your friend has said it all. |
Properties › Re: Residents And Traders Count Their Losses As 23 Road Festac Market Is Demolished by Born2Breed(f): 2:06pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I'm still wondering the rationale behind these demolition.
These are lock up shops and those traders selling by the road side can be sent parking not demolishing buildings that were set aside by FHA for businesses. |
Family › Re: My Ex-Girlfriend Keeps Disturbing My Relationship by Born2Breed(f): 1:53pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
If na Uyi be ur real name then otemwen tu wa loose guard.
Mugu for Benin na lawyer for lagos oh, why dem come dey use ur thumb touch ink like dis?
Bros leave both of them, if you want peace of mind. |
Romance › Re: Couple Who Have Dated Since 1999 Release Pre-wedding Photos by Born2Breed(f): 1:45pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Them go understand each other die.
Relationship wey don see 5 9ja Presidents (Abdulsalami, OBJ, Yardua, Goodluck and Buhari)..kai una not go ever need 3rd party. |
Education › Re: Rector Of Ede Poly Installs King-size Bed In Office, Suspended.. by Born2Breed(f): 1:39pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Things dey happen for this country oh.  |