BP's Posts

Nairaland Forum › BP's Profile › BP's Posts

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (of 8 pages)

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Vs Tottenham Hotspur (1 - 0 ) On 1st September 2013 by BP(m): 7:07pm On Sep 01, 2013

BP: Since the dawn of this sporting engagement btw the Tweedledum Tweedledee of Arsenal & Spurs, it is as clearly luminous as the biblical mene mene tekel upharsin that the dispensing of legal tender does not ensure the vanquishing and subjugation of a Philistinic antagonistic adversary homologous in ability like Arsenal

However I'd like to admonish Arsenal fans not to be corybantically intoxicated with the fugacious celebration of their skimpy 1:0 victory over Spurs. they must brood over the fact that they do not have enough combatants to contend for " Veni Vidi Vici" in the different competitive terra incognita (in the last 8 years) of the EPL, FA Cup, Capital 1 Cup and the ardously exacting Champions League.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Vs Tottenham Hotspur (1 - 0 ) On 1st September 2013 by BP(m): 6:21pm On Sep 01, 2013

Since the dawn of this sporting engagement btw the Tweedledum Tweedledee of Arsenal & Spurs, it is as clearly luminous as the biblical mene mene tekel upharsin that the dispensing of legal tender does not ensure the vanquishing and subjugation of a Philistinic antagonistic adversary homologous in ability like Arsenal

Politics › Where Was Wole Soyinka.....? by BP(op): 9:28pm On Jul 17, 2013

Where was Wole Soyinka....
(1) When forces loyal to Tinubu and Fashola apparently unleashed touts on innocent Lagosians who were protesting the imposition of tolls on the Lekki expressway?

(2) When ACN has consistently manipulated LG elections in Lagos state?

(3) When Gani took Bola Tinubu's alleged certificate forgery to court? (It's on record that Prof tried to get Gani to soft pedal).

Prof should please be consistent across board in his criticism and his silence. It is becoming clearer by the day that Prof is gradually showing up as an ACN member cum apologist.

4 Likes

Politics › Re: My Fears For Nigeria by BP(op): 7:25pm On Oct 11, 2012

JNdupu: To the OP, I reached the conclusion that life deserves better than the ugliness displayed here. If you care to look at my posting history, it might show I hadly post here anymore and have been on a long posting hiatus. I mainly lurk here and ignore the bile-filled threads. Life is good.
quote]

You are right. It's a shame that NL has become a polluted by vile and foul posters. It used to be a site for robust discussions and exchange of ideas.

[quote author=JNdupu]Now, the good news ... I have actually never experienced these level of animosity and division in my daily interactions in Nigeria and with Nigerians. There is an unspoken commonality with my people in real life so I do not recognize a lot of the hate displayed here. Sure, life is tough, we all have issues to deal with but ethincity or rampant tribalism has never been high on the list of things confronting me in my daily struggles.

I do not totally agree with you here. I think the hate revealed on this site is a reflection of the state of mind of the posters and many Nigerians. We may not be acting it out yet because the opportunity to express the hate has not yet revealed itself. Like the example I gave in my original post, how does explain how nice neighbours became murderous savages in Rwanda?

JNdupu: When you enter a room in real life, you wipe your feet but you never leave the values your parents taught you by the doorway. Same here when you login.

This is vintage wisdom from you. Very true words. Beautiful analogy; beautiful truth

Politics › Re: My Fears For Nigeria by BP(op): 6:58pm On Oct 11, 2012

chosen04: Any sensible person who still has hope in a cursed and hopeless entity like niGERia needs his/her examined.

My 50 cents.

Just went through some of your recent posts and I see most of them are about Nigeria.

You sure spend a lot of time posting about and discussing a country you have no hope in.

Politics › Re: My Fears For Nigeria by BP(op): 6:21pm On Oct 11, 2012

Callotti: We all have our tears to shed. . .for our fears.
Nigeria is NOT one of mine.
OP. . . Pele o!

I guess I can safely assume you have given up hope on NIgeria. Is that perhaps a reason why many of us make the kind of comments we make on NL? Is it a reflection of our hopelessness?

Politics › My Fears For Nigeria by BP(op): 12:27pm On Oct 10, 2012

These days, whenever I visit Nairaland, I become more convinced that there is no hope for NIgeria. My fear is not because of what our leaders have done to us. My fear grows because of the vile and bitter evil that young Nigerians do and say about themselves.

I see young(I believe) intelligent people like Eko-Ile (male or female, I know not) who write brilliant evil about Igbo people and anything anti-ACN. For them nothing is too sacred to be left unwritten. They write any and everything. They write hate-inspired words that can only fuel rage and bitterness in any sane soul.

And then there are the others like ak47mann who write that the yoruba people are the source of all the problems in the world. They have signed up their conscience and strength to defend any and everything Igbo and Ojukwu even when it flies against common sense.

My biggest fear however is the wholesale labelling of other ethnic groups. Most cases of ethnic cleansing and wholesale murderous campaigns of other ethnic groups in the past have often started with labelling people of other groups. It makes it easier to kill other people when you say all Igbos are criminals, all Yorubas are traitors who will betray you and all Northerners are almajiris and potential bombers. There may be snippets of seeming evidence to support these jaundiced views but when we use these views as the basis of hate sermons online, we are doing evil to ourselves.

Why are we like this? Why should we allow "ancient wars" fought by previous generations to make us hate ourselves so much? History is important, yes. But when the quest to resolve history or to tell a better story from the past makes us blind to the opportunities that can bind us together, we are in trouble.

Ojukwu said. No he didn't. Awolowo said. No he didn't. Sardauna said. No he didn't. We are still debating this years after these guys have long gone.

When will we come together as young people and tell new stories instead of rehashing the same old lines from our founding fathers who have played their parts and left?

We sigh and cry bitterly about the killings of the Aluu 4. But before we sound too self-righteous, perhaps someone like Eko-Ile would have given some petrol to burn them if this happened in his/her village and if s/he learnt that the people who were caught were some petty thieves who were "omo Igbo" by tribe. And I am sure an ak47mann would have provided some match sticks if s/he heard the people caught were some "Yoruba Yoruba" petty thieves.

Our eloquent hatred for each other is currently channeled through anonymous online vitriols at people from other tribes. Tomorrow, we may be better armed with guns and cudgels instead of our current internet access and evil grammar. And then we will see a re-making of Rwanda; normal people transformed overnight into murderous neighbours. It starts from hatred until it becomes insane murder.

My fear increases however when I see that even more intelligent people are now forced to take sides. Suspension of conscience and common sense seems to have set in. So the likes of the Gbawe's, Katsumoto's, and other such great minds who ordinarily give me hope that Nigeria may yet be good, once in a while join the fray of us against them.

I'm afraid for a Nigeria whose young people refuse to write their own scripts but instead focus on acting out the scripts of a previous generation who ironically wrote their own scripts when they were young men.

We are in trouble.

2 Likes

Politics › Gbawe And Other Nairalanders, Please Forgive Me. by BP(op): 9:28am On Jan 21, 2012

Gbawe,
Many months ago I opened a thread about my favorite nairalanders in the politics section.

I did you and others the dishonor of putting your name and those of others along side that of a certain "humanimal" called Beaf.

At the time, I admired Beaf's ability to press his points home even if I didn't always agree with them.

Most recently, Beaf has become a loose canon firing folly and madness in a blind support for GEJ.

For ever mentioning your name in the same sentence with a low lifer like Beaf, i'm forever sorry.

Politics › Re: Gov Aregbesola Snubs Sambo In Osogbo by BP(m): 9:40am On Oct 28, 2011

Aregbesola should decide if he wants to be a governor or a Students Union activist who usually spoils a good message with a crude style.

As a governor of a state, this is very very childish. This is almost like a little child telling his mother, "I will not play with you again" because she didn't give him ice-cream.

Come on Governor, grow up and stop shaming yourself.

Business › Re: Discussing Fuel Subsidy Removal (please Let's Keep The Discussion Civil) by BP(op): 8:15am On Oct 28, 2011

jp philips:
The truth is that jonathan thought he can play around corruption to make Nigeria great!!! What a misconception

the biggest problem bedevilling us is CORRUPTION and jonathan is not the Man to fight it

Bros, these are quotable quotes. I love these.

Gbawe:
(3) Under what circumstances should subsidy be removed?

Let us remember that subsidy, or subvention, was first suggested as a solution to how ,'apparently', we could not refine enough petrol to meet the demand of the nation. Well, the ambitious Nigerian, with an eye on nation building, would posit that we must also consider export ASAP as well because of the badly needed income that can be derived from it. We saw Dubai gain world class infrastructure through its oil wealth.

Thanks Gbawe. I was making a mental note of googling up the meaning of OMM and DBM but I see that you have even gone the extra mile of explaining these concepts. I only knew about BOT before now.

Something you said struck me. And it's the fact that we started "doing subsidy" when we couldn't get our refineries to produce to meet local demand. So like you said, the obvious solution would be to focus on refining enough to meet local consumption and even export refined products and we would have solved this issue and even create jobs and forex from exporting refined products. I think this is really straightforward (if I'm making all the right assumptions) except that there's no political will on the part of our leaders to fight entrenched interests.

I really think OBJ would have been the person with the required kind of courage to have fought this except that he used his own courage to fight his political enemies instead of enemies of Nigeria's economic destiny.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right To Pray For God To Be With You? by BP(m): 8:09pm On Oct 27, 2011

I'm not sure I have made a comment on the NL Religion section before but I think I am constrained to do this because of this post.

Ordinarily, I do not subscribe to the frequesnt pastor bashing that goes on here by other Christians even to the point using very crude language. However, I believe that this question posed by Joagbaje goes to show the kind of focus of near meaningless themes preached in Christ Embassy.

Sometimes I listen to Pastor Chris and I am like "this man has a good heart for the things of God" but [b]most times I just wonder if it isn't better for Pastor Chris not to preach on a particular Sunday if he has nothing concrete to preach about.[/b]To the subject at hand, what kind of spiritually meaningless and arguement-provoking question is "Is it right to pray for God to be with you?"

Someone else has rightly shown when Paul prayed this prayer even for Timothy. But JOagbaje tells us that it doesn't count because Paul didn't pray it for himself. Which kind of indoctrination makes a supposed mature man abandon his independent ability to think and support everything his pastor says?

It is this blind support and belief that Pastor Chris can NEVER be wrong because he is all-knowing that makes it hard for me to relate well with CEC fanatics.

Business › Re: Discussing Fuel Subsidy Removal (please Let's Keep The Discussion Civil) by BP(op): 6:11pm On Oct 27, 2011

HRT 2010:
There has been so much clamoring from the government and her agents that the removal of fuel subsidy is long overdue. I would like us to review their reasons and see the wisdom or folly therein; below are their justifications:
1. A cartel profits from it: If the federal government knows of the existence of a cartel that is milking away the subsidy and cannot take measures to stop them or put controls in place to mitigate such leakages, then the federal government has failed. Many allude to the fact that the cabal is very powerful; but there is only one Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria! The president should wield this power given to him by the constitution; Obasanjo, in all his errors, was a C-in-C indeed. Why punish the generality of Nigerians to stop a small cartel?
2. Nigeria is subsidizing almost the whole of West Africa Fuel: They say that since our fuel is always being smuggled out of Nigeria, we are wasting our subsidy on other nations. This is laughable because fuel is not being smuggled out of Nigeria, it is being “SHIPPED” out of Nigeria! I worked at Maiduguri for a while and I know that people use tankers to ship fuel out of Nigeria; that is not smuggling but shipping. But here is the question: whose duty is it to stop this smuggling, sorry shipping? Why should the govt use the excuse of its failure as justification to remove subsidy.
3. Fuel is comparably too cheap in Nigeria: Well, this depends on which country we are comparing Nigeria with (we must also compare the minimum wage in those countries and their per capital income with Nigeria). If we are to compare Nigeria with any country, it should be an OPEC or some other major oil producing nation. Is there any OPEC nation that imports refined fuel? Is there any OPEC nation whose refineries are comatose? How much do these OPEC nations sell fuel to their citizens?
4. It will free up money for infrastructural development: What has happened to all the monies budgeted for infrastructural development in the past? What about the monies that had been freed up in the past when subsidy was reduced? The Lagos-Ore-Benin road has been in a sorry state for more than a decade and there have been budgets year after year for road maintenance and construction. By the way, since Diezalen Allison Madueke wept on that road and said “The Fed Govt owes Nigerians an apology”, it has been almost 5 years now and the road has even grown worse.
5. The subsidy removed will be used to provide cushioning measures to the masses so that the effect will not be felt: Question (maybe to Lagosians): Is there any way you will beautify a road that will make the bus driver not to increase his fare if fuel is increased from 65 naira to 142 naira? After such increase in transport cost, what do you think the food stuff sellers and landlords will do? I do not think any cushioning measure exists that will prevent the bus driver that plies Ikotun to CMS not to increase his fare from 500 naira to 1000 naira id fuel is increased from 65 naira to 142 naira.
My conclusion is that the govt must never punish its citizenry to make up for its inefficiencies; if our leaders need to go take a refresher course from Venezuela or some other similar OPEC countries, then so be it.
Suggestions
• Fix our refineries and build new ones, preferably in partnership with the private sector on a BOT scheme. Added to the above, a better alternative in building refineries will be a PPP (private - public partnership); this will definitely reduce the start up costs for the investors and will go a long way in keeping down the prices of the finished products.
• Effectively police our borders to curtail the shipping of our refined products to neighbouring countries. The fed govt could even enter into agreement with those countries such that we supply them fuel officially at an agreed price (Gaius Obaseki started something like that).
• Cut the wings of all such cartels, if at all they exist.

Bros, I feel you on these points you raised. I find them very enlightening.

I'm just wondering why writers like Simon Kolawole can come to a conclusion that subsidy removal is the solution to resolving the issues in the oil and gas sector when he clearly points out that corruption is the cause.

Can't we use the FOI bill to force the FG to reveal the names of those milking the economy in the name of fuel subsidy?

Business › Re: Discussing Fuel Subsidy Removal (please Let's Keep The Discussion Civil) by BP(op): 11:43am On Oct 27, 2011

Thanks Gbawe. While I await your response to the other questions, what would then be a viable alternative since the key issue here is that if we have working refineries, we won't even be talking of importation. How long does it take to build a refinery? I really think we shouldn't even involve govt in the ownership and running of refineries. Between now and when either new refineries are built or existing refineries are sold to investors, what are our options?

Beaf, if you are reading this thread, why did GEJ not mention fuel subsidy removal as part of his pre-election campaign plans for Nigeria? Did he just think this up (meaning that he didn't have any concrete agenda while campaigning) or did he intentionally hide this policy proposal from us when asking Nigerians for their votes?

Politics › Re: Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by BP(op): 6:30pm On Oct 26, 2011

@Gbawe: A great guy you are; no doubt about it. On another note, I'd like to know your thoughts on the FG's plan to remove fuel subsidy. What are the good and bad sides of this proposal?

Business › Re: Discussing Fuel Subsidy Removal (please Let's Keep The Discussion Civil) by BP(op): 3:42pm On Oct 26, 2011

@KJ_hova: Great insights you have shared here. So in other words, even if we remove subsidy, without dealing with corruption, the people who are benefitting from subsidy will still exploit the system post-subsidy.

I'd like to ask you though, "will the removal of subsidy not reduce the corruption in the process? If there's no subsidy, I guess ther'll be no need for the PPPRA. What are your thoughts?

Business › Discussing Fuel Subsidy Removal (please Let's Keep The Discussion Civil) by BP(op): 9:28am On Oct 26, 2011

Good morning. I have read many views on this issue of fuel subsidy removal and right now I am not sure which will work better for Nigeria as there are many convincing arguements on both sides.

I see however that there are also a lot of emotions on both sides of the divide. So I'd love those Nairalanders that understand the economic and political issues involved at play here to please offer their views. I'd especially like to read the views of Gbawe, Katsumoto, Texazzpete, Beaf, ekt_bear and the many other NLers who have a key understanding of the issues at play.

My key questions are (1) Is there really a fuel subsidy? (2) Should Nigerians not enjoy subsidy since we are an oil-producing country (3) Under what circumstances should subsidy be removed? (4) What will be the short and long term benefits or woes of removing the subsidy? (5) Can we trust that Jonathan means well for us with his fuel subsidy removal proposal or is this a proposal to serve the interests of a few people within and outside Nigeria?

Politics › Re: Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by BP(op): 6:10pm On Oct 25, 2011

Beaf:
Exactly. There have been many times I have wanted to post profound threads on the inner workings of Nigeria, but you just look at the terrain and give up. I really wonder where the country is going with an older generation that mainly a class of thieves and a younger one that is mainly a pack of ignorant folk that hates knowledge.

Beaf, you are a "soldier" so I believe you can handle opposition very well. You shouldn't allow the terrain (as you put it) discourage you from sharing knowledge and thought-provoking ideas you have that may be beneficial to others. God bless you sir.

Politics › Re: Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by BP(op): 2:50pm On Oct 25, 2011

@Eko Ile. You are totally right. I shouldn't have responded to you afterall my post was to posters who were on the right track but allowed themselves to be derailed. You are not in that category. I am not sure I have read anything civil from you.

The post I made(which you have quoted) was made in an appeal to ekt bear to desist from behaviour like yours. I still insist that you represent the class of nairalanders that have polluted this forum. But you can change.

Show me one place where I have disrespected the opinions of others on NL. I'll be glad to correct myself if you can show me this example. Telling someone not to follow your bad example is not an insult or a sign of disrespect. It's just a piece of advice. God bless us all.

Politics › Re: Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by BP(op): 1:57pm On Oct 25, 2011

Gbawe:
Well, I guess I can grudgingly accept that you have a point. In my defense , I have to say it is not easy dealing with uncouth agent provocateurs hellbent on taking civility for weakness. Nonetheless, you have a point and this reminder is timely. Ultimately, I need to start avoiding distractive elements to focus substantively on educative and stimulating discussions. Thanks.

Always the gentleman, Gbawe. Thanks for this. Like I said, I know it's hard to keep one's head level with the many provocative posters that are on NL but I know you can. Thanks again sir.

Eko Ile:
What else is new? The Ideal situation for you losers is for us let you lie unchallenged, distort history unchallenged and spew endless garbage unchallenged. You might want to get over it and deal with the fact that those days are gone.

The fact is, your silly thread lacks the same objectivity you are crying about simply because this is a public forum where opinions and views are certainly different, I don't need you to always agree with me and you don't need me to always agree with you. Objectivity and respect for other people's opinions cuts both ways.

You do have a thing or two to learn about objectivity, I don't have to betray my own thoughts and beliefs just to cater to you or sound objective to you, if you don't like my posts, ignore me and move to the next post, it's not by force and I don't put a gun to people's head and force them to read my posts.

This thread clearly indicates that you do not respect the opinions of the people you named in your disingenuous post, what ever they debate or argue is a reflection of their passion and understanding, it's def' nothing for you to discount just to suit your own fantasy of objectivity.

You don't see the people you named starting threads all over the place to accuse the people they debate of lack of objectivity. People debate with skills, references and passion and for you to discredit their contribution as lack of objectivity sounds pretty mindless, thoughtless and dismissive.

Get over yourself with your mindless and self serving intolerant rubbish, NL is more than big enough for 1 billion different views and opinions.

I'm not on NL to dance for you, cater to you or beg for your respect, I only own myself my own core convictions and beliefs.

Dear Eko Ile, I only mentioned your name in passing on how not to behave. I do not have issues with who you choose to support or not support. I only think that you can pass your message with decorum. I honestly think that you are one of the people who have corrupted nairaland with your rancorous and uncouth style. It has nothing to do with whether I agree with your views or not. For instance, I do not always agree with the things Gbawe says but one cannot deny the fact that he writes with so much intelligence and analytical reasoning.

By all means, hold whatever views you'd like to hold. We can't all see things the same way. I however think that it is not too much to expect you to be civil when passing your ideas across. No one is beyond hope and I still believe that you can still somehow reach into the depths of your being to find the ability to post on NL with some decency. God bless us all.

Politics › Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by BP(op): 12:03pm On Oct 25, 2011

Guys, I used to come to the Politics section to read posts and comments from some very decent guys. Even though nairaland has more than its own fair share of cranks and bigots, there were a few guys who stood above that rot in their analysis and arguements.

In recent times however, these guys have "fallen my hand" (and I'm sure others will agree too) by joining the fray of insulting and tribalist posters, and blind supporters of certain politicians. They have lost their objectivity and now see everything right and nothing wrong with the politicians they support. In addition, they now use loads of gutter language in their posts and comments.

This is really an appeal to them to rise above the rot and do the right thing in spite of the increasing numbers of cranks and bigots we now have on this forum. Gentlemen, find your names below:

(1) Gbawe: Gbawe, in his objective days, was an analyst par excellence. He had the ability to make you see things you did not consider before. Not anymore. I almost do not see a difference between Gbawe and Eko-Ile and Ileke-Idi( Eko Ile and Ileke Idi are the epitomes of how not to behave on a public forum). Gbawe seems to have lost his objectivity. He is now a blind supporter of ACN, Tinubu and the likes. They can do no wrong in his eyes. Sir, please we need you to regain your objectivity and gentlemanliness you were known for. You are not Eko Ile. You are better than that. Stop the insults and crude words and let's have you back at your best.

(2)Katsumoto: Katz actually prompted me to open this thread. I used to read his comments on economic issues with so much respect . I remember one time when he opened a thread on Sanusi and his policies. In spite of the provocative comments by some other posters, Katz kept his cool and my respect for him went up by many notches. It was with great shock then that I read the rather uncouth and crude words he used on another poster (arsenefc). He used many unprintable and near x-rated words. Come on bro, this ain't the you I used to read with so much delight.

(3) Beaf: Beaf, you had the ability to make your points in such a funny way, I could laugh with tears in my eyes. Even though you were comical in your approach, you were not childish. The way you kept soldiering on during the election period when you were almost a one-man army supporting GEJ showed remarkable bravery. But now, you've become something else. You were never really objective but now you seem to have thrown caution to the winds. Your blind support for any and everything GEJ is just crazy sometimes. Nobody can be perfect and you need to be willing to accept that for a fact where GEJ is concerned. And then, I think you can pass your views about Aregbesola across without resorting to childish name-calling and posting really crazy pictures. Beaf, nobody is saying you shouldn't support GEJ, but I still believe you can be gentlemanly about it and certainly stop being so odious. Don't lose your funniness but please don't be childish.

(4) Jakumo: Bros, you sabi write. And u sabi write sense in a very funny way. What I don't enjoy is how you constantly villify Buhari. You see absolutely nothing good in the man. It's almost like he is the devil and then you call him all sorts of names. I do not like Buhari myself. I believe you can make your feelings about Buhari known without the insults and all.

Thanks guys. Just thought to give you feedback. I know that pressure to give fire for fire can be immense with so many crazy posters here these days. But somehow I believe you can do your own things without going down to the gutters. Enjoy your day.

1 Like

Properties › Do You Have Used Household Items(like Tv, Ac's, Fridges, Gen Set) Etc For Sale? by BP(op): 1:59pm On Sep 08, 2011

Do you or anyone you know have used but clean household items (TV, Fridge, Airconditioners, Generators etc etc) for sale probably because of relocation?

Please call 08099762321. We'll love to purchase these items.

Food › Re: Funny/Strange Combinations Of Food You Have Eaten Or Seen People Eat? by BP(m): 9:24am On Aug 03, 2011

Bread and Banana. I actually don't see anything wrong with this but when I told someone I ate this, he laughed and laughed and laughed till I felt nearly foolish

Politics › Re: Muslims Can’t Go To War Over Islamic Banking – NSCIA by BP(m): 5:41pm On Jul 27, 2011

I am a Christian but I think that we (both Christians and Muslims) should exercise restraint wheile debating this issue of Islamic banking.

It is most unfair to say that all Muslims are terrorists. This is a terrible thing to say.

In my own view, I still reiterate that Islamic Banking in Nigeria became a heated issue because of the immaturity and unskilfulness of our rather childish and inexperienced CBN governor.

The major issue dividing Nigeria is not religion; it is ethnicity and the superiority complex of the Northern elite. They only use religion (in this case Islam) to further their wicked plans.

We have muslims in the South West and parts of Edo State and even in some other countries in Africa and they are very tolerant of other religions. It's therefore unfair to say all Muslims are evil or terrorists.

Business › Re: Buhari Urges Return To Gold-Backed Currencies To End Inflation by BP(m): 1:39pm On Jul 27, 2011

Is the OP a little ashamed to say that Buhari was saying this at an Islamic Banking-related conference? It's nothing to be ashamed about. I don't see why you intentionally cut off the part where it talked about where he said this.

This is what that story actually says:

"Buhari, who was the Presidential Candidate for the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) in the last elections, was speaking at the 2nd World Conference on Riba (interest) holding in Malaysia. He stressed that linking money to gold would ensure “price stability” in the long run.

Politics › Re: Islamic Banking: Sanusi Is Breaking The Law! by BP(m): 9:09am On Jul 20, 2011

Politics › Re: Islamic Banking: Sanusi Is Breaking The Law! by BP(m): 9:02am On Jul 20, 2011

Texazzpete, Let me try and respond the points you raised in your post.

Oritsejafor is President of CAN and by extension spokesman of Christians in Nigeria(whether he is doing this well is another issue). Sanusi however is not the spokesman of muslims in Nigeria. He's Nigeria's chief banking regulator and so he should speak in that capacity.

I see nothing wrong in Islamic Banking (either the concept or the name). I believe Nigerian Muslims have a right to bank in accordance with their conscience and religion so long as it does not infringe on rights of other citizens.

However, it is a fact that Nigeria is polarized. This knowledge is not new. I expect a skilful manager to make and communicate decisions taking into considerations the peculiarities of his operating environment. It's either Sanusi did not foresee the kind of heat this would generate or he did but decided it didn't matter. Either way, it show poor managerial skills.

Let me give you an example. If you are CEO of a company without Unions, you would make and communicate decisions affecting your employees in a very different way from if you were CEO of a company with strong unions. The same decision but different styles because of the operating environment.

You can imagine the kind of crisis you'd face as CEO, if the best response you can come up with when Union opposes a decision you took is "you have a right to go to court". Do they have a right to go to court? Yes. Is that the kind of attitude that will resolve the issue? No.

So what we have is Sanusi is about to kill a good idea because he is a poor manager.

Knowing that Nigeria is very polarized, is it possible for Sanusi to have given sonmeone else in CBN the role of "the face and voice of Islamic banking"?

Clearly, Sanusi is more interested in taking glory for being the Muslim who was able to bring Islamic banking to reality in Nigeria than in seeing the idea come to reality itself.

T

Politics › Re: Islamic Banking: Sanusi Is Breaking The Law! by BP(m): 8:06am On Jul 20, 2011

xterra2:
I agree with Texazzpete

IN Nigeria we have plenty islamic schools and christians schools, No body is forcing you to send your child there
why is an issue ?

Sir, your analogy is not totally correct. While I totally agree that nobody will force a Christian to bank with an Islamic bank, the school and bank analogy is not exactly the same.

For example, if a christian or Muslim school gets broke, we are sure that government will not bail it out with public funds. However, what happens if an Islamic bank is threatening to go under, will the CBN bail it out with public funds? These are questions that Sanusi has to answer.

xterra2:
In the west, we have hundreds of islamic banks, with non christians using it like in the ink that texazzpete shared,
we have it in many countries
not an issue really

why is an issue ?

Sir, Nigeria is not the West. We have different issues from the West. The West does not have a strong Chrsitian/Muslim population like Nigeria. The West does not have a history of mistrust that we have. This is why Sanusi should have been a lot more matured in handling this.

Let me very very clear on something. I see nothing wrong with Islamic Banking in Nigeria. But I see immaturity in how Sanusi has played this. His managerial skills are clearly poor.

Politics › Re: Islamic Banking: Sanusi Is Breaking The Law! by BP(m): 6:59pm On Jul 19, 2011

Texazzpete, please see my comments below as honest feedback from someone who respects your intelligence.

I respect your ability to take contrarian views a great deal. However, I often see a lot of aggression, written violence and sometimes outright insults in your posts. You do not have to be this aggressive to make your fine points known.

Even if others are insulting, you shouldn't join them.

Also, I notice that you make very definitive and final statements without considering the fact that you could actually be wrong.

On this Islamic Banking issue, I have said elsewhere that there is nothing wrong with it except for the fact that there is already serious mistrust among Nigerians based on religion and ethnicity. I still believe that if someone like Fola Adeola (a Muslim) was CBN governor, he would have maturedly introduced Islamic Banking without any of the drama Sanusi is bringing to this subject.

Your position on HSBC is not totally correct. HSBC is a bank and not a regulator. If it willingly subjects itself to Shariah scrutiny, it does so on its own. It will be different if you show me this same information on say the bank of England's website.

I'm not even against a Sharia council providing advice and some sort of regulation for the Islamic Banking sub-sector of Non-Interest banking. But what I am saying is that this HSBC example you gave is not a proper case of comparing like with like.

Business › Re: N150,000 Withdrawal Limit: Court Can’t Stop Me, Says Sanusi by BP(m): 10:08am On Jul 13, 2011

faithin9ja:
I am still no wiser with the hatred of this proposed policy, which I understand is starting with Lagos as a pilot. Please somebody help me answer the following simple questions;
1. anyone who has over N150k a day turnover, ie between N500k and N1million a week, do they not use banks now? That is the point exactly. They already use the banks and so they will be the ones to suffer if Sanusi rushes this his policy
2. fulani cow herders who sell N80k cows, Aba traders, etc farmers do they not use banks with all the hundreds of thousands they currently use?Some do and some don't. If Sanusi rushes his policy without proper education and infrastructure in place, those who currently do will soon join those who don't
3. don't banks already charge COT for all transactions most especially cash transactions - are these COT charges going to be increased because of Lamido?My dear, there's a huge difference between COT and Sanusi's crazy penalties. Generally, COT is charged on Current Accounts. Sanusi's crazy penalties will affect both Savings and Current Accounts. Also the penalties are crazy when compared to COT. For C.O.T., you are paying something like 5 naira for every 1,000 naira you withdraw. For Sanusi's penalties, you are paying 100 naira for every 1,000 naira above 150k. So let's say you withdraw 5 million, COT will be 25k but Sanusi's penalty will be 485k. Can you see the difference?
4. with our big cash economy is there no fraud currently? paid with fake currency, bundles of N100 wrapped in N1000 bills, removing a few notes from each bundle, etc
5. does the policy not allow for businesses to have a much higher daily cash withdrawal limit? N1million a day I think? (What is 1 million a day? Go to Alaba market and see how much traders make in a day)
6. does this policy put pressure on banks to improve the over the counter immediate transfer, ie I should be able to go into Access bank and ask a cashier to transfer money from my account to my customer account at Union Banks. the technology is already there an can be further developed.
7. Nigerian banks already have technology that so-called more developed countries do not use, for instance the use of text alert is not widespread in UK or Europe but is well developed in Nigeria (I don't know about US or other countries - but I am not aware of it being used in US either) (What is sms alert when we do not have legislation in place that makes banks responsible for frauds on customers accounts? If you lose money either thru atm or internet banking fraud owing to the bank's lax systems, you will get nothing in Nigeria. There is crazy atm fraud currently. Imagine the high rate of e-banking fraud when Sanusi's forced policy comes on stream without the necessary legislation?)a few answers please, no need for insults, just well thought out answers

Islam › Re: Sanusi Warns Muslims Against Joining Issues With Christians by BP(m): 5:46pm On Jul 05, 2011

I've read many views on this issue of Islamic Banking in Nigeria. I can see many fears, perceptions and views and I'd like to add a few lines of my own.

Let me state the following upfront (1) I am a Christian (2) I think Sanusi is a lousy and terrible CBN Governor. I will however do my best to ensure that none of these views unnecessarily color the opinions I want to state.

(1) I do not see anything wrong with the CBN promoting Islamic Banking. Nigeria has a huge muslim population and if the way banking is done is a very important thing to Muslims, then I think we should find a framework that accomodates their concerns and makes them happy as long as it doesn't affect the rights of other citizens.

(2)I believe that since Islamic Banking is just one form of non-interest banking, the CBN should have a committee that regulates the the non-interest banking business. This committee should be made up of both Christians and non-Christians. For the islamic banking component however, the regulation should be done by Muslims with knowledge of both Islamic principles and financial/economic principles drawn from both the North and South of Nigeria.

(3)I believe that most of the dust being raised on this issue is not because of Islamic Banking per say but because of the person of Sanusi. Sanusi is an extremist and comes across as someone who doesn't care about other points of view.
Again the issue here is more about ethnicity than it is about religion. I am most certain that if Sanusi was a Southern Muslim, there wouldn't be this much noise. The fact remains that most Christians perceive Northern Muslims to be extremists and expansionists. Christians have lived in peace with Muslims in the South. Southern Muslims come to church when we have burial ceremonies and they are welcome. I am sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that I can go with a Muslim friend to a mosque in the South here just to experience the Muslim way of worship and go back home alive and with all my limbs intact.

On the other hand if I decide to visit a Mosque in the North, that may very well be the end of my life.

(4) Sanusi is doing this (like everything he does) the wrong way. It is clear he doesn't think more than one step at a time. If I were CBN governor, I'd have seen that this issue of Islamic Banking will generate furore especially around this time when we've had loads of Christian / Muslim clashes in the North and with the Boko-Harm issue that paints Muslims (unfairly) in bad light. Based on that, I'd ensure that all communication on this Islamic Banking issue is done by another CBN executive that does not have the perception baggage that Sanusi has.

The truth is that Christians have seen the undue politicization of Sharia in the North and so have a lot of trust issues believing someone like Sanusi on something that has Islamic undertone. While I do not see any reasons why Christians should be afraid or deny Muslims their "rights" to Islamic Banking, I think Sanusi needs to act with maturity. By saying, nothing can ever change this or that, you create unnecessary tension. And by so doing, he has made a good idea look bad.

Sanusi should rise above himself and reach out to the groups who feels afraid or aggrieved and ASSURE them. If he has to postpone implementation by a few months, so be it.

Eventually, the problem is not islamic Banking per se, but the poor management skills of Sanusi and the mistrust that many Nigerians have, not for Muslims, but for Northern Muslims.

Christian leaders on the other hand should stop being paranoid about everything Islam.

Crime › Re: Horror: Nigerian Man Stabs Wife To Death, Cuts Her Into Pieces by BP(m): 4:08pm On Jun 30, 2011

coogar:
you mean you actually know this guy? this is interesting. . . .

what kind of a guy is he? where did he school? which envvironment and when did he become so frustrated that it graduated to him being a psychopath? has he been apprehended and is he showing any signs of sanity?

He was a great guy as a teenager. He was on fire for God and a leader in our teens fellowship. I know he went to Unilag.

The truth is that I cannot relate the picture I have of him with this murder story. It's shocking.

Crime › Re: Horror: Nigerian Man Stabs Wife To Death, Cuts Her Into Pieces by BP(m): 3:49pm On Jun 30, 2011

I'm just seeing this story now and the picture and I am in serious shock because I KNOW THIS GUY.

We grew up in the same denomination as teenagers and he was a very committed christian.

We didn't see for a long time until October 2008 at the wedding of one of a friend we both grew up with as teens. We saw again in 2009 at the wedding of another member of our teens fellowship back then.

And this morning, a member of our teens fellowship from back then called me and told me about this story.

I don't even understand how he could do any of these things from beating his wife to eventually killing her.

This is so so sad and just teaches that if we don't deal with "small" issues we have (anger, lust, etc) they can graduate to murder, and many other things and take us places we never thought we could go.

God save us all

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (of 8 pages)