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No the Catholic Church had proven to the world what faith they believe, and the time is ticking at are fast rate, soon everyone will see Lucifer's glory raise above the Vatican.
Turn from your evil ways-and come follow after Christ-fully.

dmandy:
lolx

I am sure I am wasting my time with them as they have made up their mind not to see anything good in Catholic Church, but I am sure people are reading. An Igbo adage says the fowl does not scream because he expects his captures to leave him but that they may hear his voice who care to..

Firstly" This isn't the gospel I would be preaching to anybody-I wouldn't allow myself to show the paganism the Church follows.
Secondly" No' I don't make any images of myself nor do I make any images to represent Christ in my home. Christ lives in me, as I live in Him. My mind, my soul, and my everyday living, I live for Christ.
And how does one understand the evidence of Christ living in us all-by the word of God that's preached throughout the nations.

It seems you are having trouble understanding between these two, first>kissing a statue made of clay-isn't the same of kissing your wife-Jesus said love your wife's, wife's love your husbands.
Your quote shows, your love for the image is equal to a human being. Without any thought you had compared them both alike. Interesting.
First God is Love, God's image isn't clay, we are made in His image, "LOVE is warm, love is kind, love is God.

Having your sisters picture or the rest of the families pictures-isn't idolizing-idolizing Mary either inside the Church-kissing her feet-bowing down and praying to her in worship, is idolizing.
Looking at photo's of family members, has nothing to do with bowing down, praying, or worship.
Plus only a pervert would Idolize their sisters picture? Ask this question to the Vatican about their hidden secrets.

You are asking me to visit the Catholic Church,well I have, I had also made away to visit the Vatican on the net, and this is what I had found the Vatican worships after Lucifer. And we all know who Lucifer is-the morning star, the angel of light.
GOD-GOD COME OUT WHERE EVER YOU ARE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M

dmandy:
Okay, I believe you stand a better chance than even God himself to know what the catholic church approves and disapproves. Well, here is catechism of the Catholic Church


Try vising a catholic church or go to http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm to know what the catholic church teaches.


Image: a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art. Have you ever made an image of yourself? Are u in the earth? If you so, are you disobeying God? Be sincere.
Okay kissing an image is idol worship? Tell me more. What of kissing your wife? If you admire your sisters picture, are you classically worshipping idol?

Okay, its better to worship your Saturn Day. Think about 'Follow peace with all men'
You do.

Firstly the Catholic Church-don't teach against it-matter of fact with evidence, the Church have broken 2 of the 10 commandments.
Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make yourself an image in the form of anything in Heaven above, or on the Earth-nor beneath, nor in the waters below.
Mary is a good example, you have images of her and Jesus in every church. When asked-many Catholic's claim these statues are only there to remind them who they are. Many kiss the feet of Mary that's made out of clay, that's is classed as idol worship.
I love listening to you, especially the ones who are willing to lie denying the truth.
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Sabbath Saturday is a day to remember-but of course the church had chanced that too, mixing the pagans beliefs, with Christians, so everyone can live happily ever after, together with joy we all now worship their Sun Day.
Other then that, who really cares.

dmandy:
Thanks for that acknowledgement.

No, I am not guilty, I don't idolize the rosary... I have showed you where it is in the bible. I don't worship anything outside the 10 commandments. Anyone who does is in error. The Catholic church teaches against it.
How? I believe someone first told you about Jesus if you actually know Him.
Good, by spreading the gospel and not hatred... you are leading people to Jesus. You are an intercessor, I pray God gives you the grace and strength to push forward.

Of course, if its not Jesus its not the gospel. Jesus is the Gospel. That is the central message of the holy Rosary even (Birth, Life, passion, death and resurrection of Jesus) period. This little pamphlet will teach you how to start praying the rosary (crown of roses) from today... www.newadvent.org/images/rosary.pdf

I have given you scriptures after scriptures, but as always, you are to blind to see them.
Someone like you couldn't understand the bible anyway.
You don't understand the truth about Christ,-as I said until you decide to give yourself entirely hole hearted over to Christ alone-instead of Mary, you will never understand the scriptures as they are written.
You are just a sounding symbol that makes a lot of noise without any tunes.

italo:
You haven't answered. Even your Protestant bible's NT was compiled by the Catholic Church in 382AD.

So who were the Catholic's serving when the compiled and canonized the Bible you're carrying about...when they instituted Christmas and Easter that most Protestants celebrate...when they changed the day of worship to Sunday that most Protestants adhere to?

God, Saints or Mary?



You still haven't shown me where God said that when he speaks, he confirms it with scripture...

...and that Mark and Luke should write anything.

Even the entire books of Mark and Luke don't say that the authors were Mark and Luke.

So how do you know who wrote the books.

You should think before you write, you really make up words as you go on.

italo:
But Jesus never said that "when God speaks, he will confirm it with scripture."

And he never said it was Luke that wrote "Luke," and Mark that wrote "Mark."

Well done you wrote some scriptures-I will give you a pat on the back.
I am not guilty, but you are-guilty to idolize the rosary, and everything you worship out side the 10 commandments.

Quote>But how can you go to Jesus unless someone leads you to Him.
Open your eye's, everyday the gospel is being preached through out the world-God is sending His people to the four corners on this planet, time and time again-the message these days is spreading at a faster rate, all you can do is just do your bit, like myself I am spreading the word slowly but surely. It takes one person at a time.
But always remember if it's not Jesus you are preaching about, then its best not to preach at all.

dmandy:
We are not dragging anything Mr. I actually read where you called her names.

Which scriptures, Sir did you ask me to produce? I will gladly oblige.

Okay here is what I do when I say the holy rosary:

1. In the name of the father, the son and the Holy Spirit. Amen (matt 28:19)
2. I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth and in Jesus Christ our Lord, His only begotten Son …..(Jn 14:1)
3. Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come …….(Matt 6:9)
4. Hail Mary full of Grace, the lord is with you…..(luk 1:28)
5. Glory be to the Father, to the Son and to the Holy spirit …..(phil 4:20)


How does your being guilty translate to shame on me. Nna nawa o. If you are guilty, then no shame at all, eat your words and embrace the truth.
It's clear to me how you read. I did say this



No other way at all. Jesus is the answer. But how can you go to Jesus unless someone leads you to him...Rom 10:14 (How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?) or is that a one-off event solely for Romans?

If you don't understand anything, ask.

The blind will lead the blind.
You cant see that? Yes I have got to remember, you spend less time praying to the Lord-then you do with Mary.
And of course, you wouldn't be able to see-how the word is spelt out in front of you.

It is clear-Jesus pointed it out, in word and in truth, His people will see dreams and visions, which backs up His word.
The bible is clear-only for those who are seeking, but every time I have given you scripture, you don't seem to receive it to well.
You always come back with a smart remark-really you are fooling yourself, you don't know the scriptures-and you won't know them, until you accept Jesus fully into your heart and receive the Holy Spirit-one must be born again.
Listen if you want people to believe you-with your story telling, then at least share the story soundly.
Expect rejections from other Christians-don't argue, just prove your point. You really need to tell your story to those who would believe you, say the Catholic's.
Us Christians worship Jesus and He alone-we don't need idols to keep us informed, who Jesus is.

italo:
The verse says nothing about God speaking and backing it up with Scripture.

Neither does the verse tell us that the writers of Mark and Luke were Mark and Luke.

The gospel narratives were not written at the time the events happened, like some kind of daily journal entry.
Rather, they were put together later, like most historical narratives, based on the memory research, and compilation. Matthew and John were both eyewitnesses to most of the events in their narratives.
Mark and Luke had access to the eyewitnesses. In fact Luke mentions that he carefully investigated everything from the beginning before writing the gospel.
Luke 1:1-4 "In as much as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which most surely believe among us.
Just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us.
It seemed good to me also, having prefect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus. That you may know the certainly of those things in which you were instructed.

Very probably Mark gleaned information for his gospel from the apostle Peter.
1 Peter 5:11-13 "With the help of Silus, whom I have regarded as a faithful brother, I have written to you briefly encouraging you and testifying that this is the true grace of God. Stand fast in it.
She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings and so does my son Mark. Greet one another with a kiss of love. The other benefit he writers had-and this is a big one-is that they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:16 "All scriptures are breathed out by God, and is profitable for teaching,for reproof for correction, and for the training of righteousness.
In fact Jesus had promised them that the Spirit would bring to their remembrance "everything" I had said. 1 John 14:16. Now you come up the evidence who told you, you can pray the rosary's?

italo:
You still haven't shown me where God said that when he speaks, he confirms it with scripture...

...and that Mark and Luke should write anything.

Did you actually read where I said I hated Mary-or is this your way of dealing with scriptures you can't produce.
So automatically-I am guilty. Very poor ling, shame on you...
You say you love Jesus and of course Mary-so does this mean you don't love your brother in Christ?
And Jesus is the only way- if His word says you must be born again-then believe it, theirs no other way.
Jesus said so.

dmandy:
No, it rather shows that I have given not just my heart completely to Jesus but also my entire life. I also shows that I love Jesus and the entire body of Christ Including Mother Mary.

There is only ONE way to heaven and that is thorough Jesus but there is not just one way to Jesus. Anyone who has truly found Jesus can lead you to Him.

O yes, no one can enter heaven except he be born again. But contrary to what you were fed with being born again is not equal to hating Mary. Rather it is accepting Jesus and all his gifts including the gift of a wonderful Mother.

Acts 2:17 "In the last day's, God says I will pour out My Spirit on all fresh, Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and you old men will dream dreams.
And sure enough as the word said-these things have come to past.
Men and women all over the world, have received visions dreams, and prophesy-backing it up with scripture.

Like the Catholic's said, Jesus didn't tell anyone to write the scriptures.
But your wrong.

italo:
You still haven't shown me where God said that when he speaks, he confirms it with scripture...

...and that Mark and Luke should write anything.

Acts 2:17 "In the last day's, God says I will pour out My Spirit on all fresh, Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams.
And sure enough as the word said-these things have come to past.
Men and women all over the world, have received these dreams and visions, prophesying-backing it up with scripture.
Like the Catholic's said, Jesus didn't tell anyone to write the scriptures.

italo:
You still haven't shown me where God said that when he speaks, he confirms it with scripture...

...and that Mark and Luke should write anything.

You both love writing my name, brocab, does this mean I am famous?

adsonstone:
For once, THINK!

Those statements were comparisons to you wild assumptions and words, to show you they're grossly irrelevant.

Brocab's 'senselessness' is YOUR own claim, what have I to do with it?!

You mentioned that 'Brocab was senseless,' I replied by asking why you were still talking with him, you said to expose him further...I simply answered that 'keep exposing him!'

Do you have any problem with that?!


For the other one, you said you have the right to condemn whatever you do not like, I answered you by comparing your belief to what the Boko Haram believe; that they have a right to condemn and destroy whatever they do not like!

Is that too much for you to deal with?

Again, I say; I have no obligation to provide any proof for anything, I did not claim anything which requires any proof.

If anyone is to prove anything, it is who should prove that; God confirmed the rosary to you..because you claimed that.


Where are the questions I dodged?
Do you mean providing proofs for your own assumptions and claims I did not make?


See, if you cannot be honest and straightforward, it is not compulsory to talk, you have a right not to!

Now you are acting silly-no-one hates anybody-you just need to settle down.
It shows clearly you haven't given your hole heart completely over to Jesus, Jesus said theirs only one way into Heaven and that's through Him. You must become a born again Christian, before you can enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
His word and their is no lie found in His truth,

dmandy:
I honestly wish I understood what u wrote up there.

The scriptures don't match? How?

O yes I do have a heart for Christ and I back it up by meditating on his life and mysteries when I say the rosary and I can teach you to do likewise only if you can let go of bitterness. Jesus loves you. Mother Mary loves you and she means well.

Stop assuming that the more you hate Mary and bring her down the more you prove your love for Jesus. Asi Asi.

Of course we hear the claims made by Catholic's that Jesus never told any of His disciples to write anything down, and clearly He never wrote any of the scriptures Himself for example.
It is not strange that if Christianity were to be learned from the bible only, that Christ Himself never wrote a line, nor commanded His apostles to write. Only 5 of the 12 did write, for their divine commission was not to write, but to teach and preach the gospel {Matt 19, Mark 15, Luke 16, Acts 8} They wrote merely to confirm their teaching, and never given the slightest intimation that Christianity was to rest solely on a bible foundation.
Of course the Catholic's will say this is a significant omission in the bible, which in their view severely undermines the validity of the protestant principle. Turn the attention of those who are making such claims, of the book of Revelation.

These verses are quoted from the King James.
Revelation 1:11,19-2:1,8,12,18-3:1,7,14-14:1, 19:9, 21:5. So 12 times to seven different Church communities, John is directed by Jesus to write what became scripture.
Well did Jesus ever write anything down Himself-in His own hand-Yes He certainly did.
Exodus 31:12-18 "Written by the finger of God, He wrote the 10 commandments.

John 21:24-25 "This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down.
We know that the testimony is true. Jesus did many other things as well. If everyone of them were written down, I suppose that even the hole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

italo:
Wow! I didn't know the bold. Please tell me where God told you the bold...and tell me where God told you that he told Mark and Luke to write books.

None what so ever has anything you have written, make any sense, even the scriptures you have produced-don't match up.
If you really have a heart for Christ-then at least back it up.

dmandy:
ALL the wordings of the Holy Rosary are based on the scriptures. There is no part of the Holy Rosary where Mary is given all authority. It has always been her role to intercede for us to Jesus. (Mary does not replace Jesus any more than your pastors/priests/prophets/senior apostles and the likes does by praying for you)
The scripture that is inspired by the Holy spirit. 2Tim 3:16
the Rosary is not man-made, All the prayers of the Rosary are in the Bible (Word of God) only that to you the Bible is a one-off event.
So like Mary, you are advised to be faithful to the word of God and call her blessed.
Yes, I do. And the Catholic church wants you and I to emulate that virtue.
Praise the lord!!!

I think you are the best position than God himself to tell me who I worship and who I don't. It's well.

the catholic church didn't make Mary queen, God Himself did when He chose her to be the Mother of a King above all Kings and mighty God. Is 9:6

No wonder the people of Isreal did not understand why Jesus called himself 'Son of God'. If you don't understand, there are two socially acceptable options keep quite or ask questions. Don't fight what you don't understand. Remember Matt 11:18/19.
Is it a sin again to praise someone? Na God go heal all the hypocrisy of una.

You said it again-the Catholic Church gave you the bible and the rosary's, and I am again confirming it to you, when the Lord speaks He confirms His words with scripture.
So again I ask-where about's in the scriptures, God had given you such info-so the world can believe.

italo:
Where did I change my mind?

I know you have a mental deficiency but I still stand by my words that the Catholic Church gave us the Bible and the Rosary and God confirmed to me that both were from him.

You are asking the wrong questions, don't you read the bible-or do you have another?
Not only Africa, but all over the world, darkness had come.
John 8:12 "Jesus said "I am the light of the world, whoever walks with me will not walk in darkness.
It seems the darkness has overshadowed your life, you claim to be a Christian, but you are denying its power of the word of God. You seem to have trouble believing His word-I assure you-some of the scriptures that don't make sense now-will make sense shortly-only if you are willing to believe.
1 John 2:21 "I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because "NO" lie is of the truth.
Your Quote>was anybody on earth was impacted with eternal life before the death of Jesus.
Your answer was "NO"
2 Kings 2:11 "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up two heaven in a whirlwind.
So the answer is "YES" Elijah was impacted with eternal life before the death of Jesus.

And you have the bible in front of you-these are not my words, these are the words of the Lord, and if you have chosen to dis-believe, what more can I write to you-since you are protesting against the bible.
Heaven and Earth will pass away-But the Lord said: His word will always stay.

paxonel:
no
it is time for we african Pentecostals to take the truth the way Scriptures put it , rather than misunderstanding Bible the way you are doing it now.
Right now, Pentecostals of developed nations like Us, the Uk, etc have come to know the truth and avoid using the term born again a long time ago.
Africa is still in darkness.
They are yet to understand the contradiction that is associated with born again doctrine.
let me ask you
you say being born again is when eternal life has been impacted to a person
was anybody on earth impacted with eternal life before the death and resurrection of Jesus?
if the answer is no, which it is , why would Jesus tell Nicodemus you must have eternal life (you must be born again ) when he has not even been crucified ( talkless of resurrection ) at the time he had the encounter with Nicodemus in john 3?
i don't know if you understand the question.
incase you don't, think and look at the question again.
i need your sincere straight forward answer

italo, you had already stated that the bible and the rosary's were given to you by the Catholic Church.
What made you change your mind, And denying the truth?

italo:
Bros, I know you've always been dishonest and dubious, but haba! Read this post below and claim the above again...and also claim that he wasn't implying that 'if Jesus mentioned/approved it, it would be in the bible.



Is it wrong and hypocritical for me to say 'Jesus never mentioned Bible too' to someone who said the above and also said Jesus didn't approve the Rosary?





My point isn't debunked.

Jesus never told John to write his other books, or the other apostles to write any books. He never told anyone to compile any book and call it Bible. He never told Kumuyi to start Deeper Life...in the Bible.

Here's my point: You Protestants believe that the fact that the Bible doesn't record something explicitly doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't approve it. So to claim that 'the Rosary isn't approved because it wasn't mentioned in the bible' is hypocritical. Do you agree?






Anyone, including I, have the right to condemn anything I like. I have never claimed that "God didn't command it," so I don't have to prove what I didn't claim.

I really think it's fine if you stubbornly believe that God commanded your pastor to feed you petrol. I won't pester you to prove it unless you start to condemn my own practices...under the guise of having a logical discussion. I'd rather leave you to relish your obstinate stupidity in peace.






Why should I show you where Jesus approved the Rosary? Did I come to you asking you to pray the Rosary or did your fellow Protestants come on this public thread, condemning the Rosary?

Did you ever ask for proof of where Jesus approved the compilation of the bible before reading it?

Yet you claim am being hypocritical. Is it not hypocrisy to ask me to show where Jesus approved the rosary when you dont do same for the bible and the foundation of Deeper Life?

*begging for answer.






I asked if it passes for a lie. You skipped.







Only, you suddenly go blind when the untrue things are said about Catholicism. E.g when Emilo2stay said on this same thread that the Catholic Church admitted that the Rosary was adopted from paganism...and made no attempt to prove it. That's your idea of being "Christian." I think it's hatred and envy.






To further expose his senselessness.



I see you're no longer claiming to be correcting my 'lies and hypocrisy.'

It is clear that you're the one being hypocritical...asking me to provide proof of Jesus approval when you never asked/provided proof of Jesus' approval of bible or founding of Deeper Life.

Jesus is lord.

Asabeq:
Wow I am so impressed! Catholics please keep this thread alive! I love you all even my protestant brothers who hate us,I love them all.

Glory to Jesus! Honour to Mary!
Meanwhl my name is Asabe from wurkun tribe in Taraba state
Please welcome me

Why am I condemning the rosary's hmmmm lets see, Hail Mary Mother of God-because its not scriptural. And everyone knows when God speaks He talks scripture.
Be honest you heard from Uben.

italo:
Jesus never mentioned "bible."

He never told anyone to write anything.

The NT/Bible came after Jesus.

God confirmed to me that the Rosary is from him.

Jesus never condemned the Rosary, so why are you condemning it?

I believe you the rosary's were given to you by the Catholic Church, not God; finely you have found room in your heart to come up with the truth. Praise the Lord.
The word belongs to God, not the Catholic Church, over the centuries many have translated the Holy scriptures into a book called the bible, sending the word of God out to the open' so all man kind could understand the hidden secrets about Christ.
In their long journeys of hardship, hundreds risking their lives were murdered by the Catholic Church.
This same Church you swear by.

italo:
The Bible and Rosary are not mentioned in the Bible.

They were both given to us by the Catholic Church.

God confirmed to me that they're both from him.

Mary the Mother of Jesus, "also" had other children no-one seems to recognize.
Luke 8:20-21 "Someone had told Him your Mother and your brothers are standing outside waiting to see you, "But He answered and said to them, "My Mother and My Brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.
Why did Jesus say this? Mary walked with God didn't she? With this remark Jesus knew His Mother had obeyed God-knowing she obeyed the old Mosaic doctrines, He also knew she wasn't familiar with His new teachings that He preached, and later it was re-written, from the Old to the New, even thou she walked with Jesus on occasions, she had started learning about the new testament, Jesus said to John behold this is your Mother-Mother this is your son, John was so loved by Jesus, He wanted John to teach His new Mother the New doctrines of Christ.
In scripture Mary's name no-longer existed after Acts 1 the last time her name was mention was on the day of pentecost, when she was in the room with the disciples.
Johns family looked after her, until she died.
So can you Catholic's tell me, what happen to Mary after Jesus had died, did she look after her sons and daughters with John, or did she continual her journey to Rome.
As Jesus said: Bless is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

Jesus mentioned the word of God, which we now have it written in the bible.
Jesus never condemned the rosary's because the rosary's came after Jesus.
His word had condemned your idols.

italo:
Jesus never mentioned Bible.

Jesus never condemned Rosary.

God of heaven told me the Rosary is from him.

It is your worldly god that told you the Rosary is not from God.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of their womb Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray fro sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

The Roman Catholic Church claims that praying the rosary property venerates Mary since they claim.
Mary has by grace been exalted above all Angels and by Men, to a place second to her Son, as the most holy Mother of God, who was involved in the mystery's of Christ; she is rightly honoured by a special cult in the church.
From the earliest times, the Blessed Virgin is honoured under the title of the Mother of God, whose protection the faithful take refuge together in prayer in all their perils and needs.
Mary is also considered by Catholic's as a co-mediator and a co-redeemer.
The Roman Catholic Church states that the rosary's encompasses the gospel. Praying the rosary is also said to provide special graces and protection against various evils, including false teachings, praying the rosary's is said to provide partial removal of the punishment that we deserve for our sins, while we are here on earth.
The Roman Catholic Church also teaches that a person can also earn a complete "relief" from all stored up punishment at the time they pray the rosary, receiving the sacraments of confession, receiving the Eucharist, and offering prayers to the Pope.

So what does scriptures say?
It is important for us to ask the key question, "Does the bible ever refer to the rosary?" If it did then the rosary might be important. If it does not, then how important is the rosary?
The answer to these question are, the bible does not mention it. In fact Mary doesn't even appear after Acts 1.
The rosary is not mention in scripture because its a human invention. It's not of God, it does not provide forgiveness of our sins, relief from punishment, or certain graces, nor does it give us victory over hell.

IN FACT GOD HAS GIVEN US DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

italo:
You keep saying I'm disobeying God when God never said "don't pray the Rosary."

I already told you that God himself has confirmed to me that the Rosary is from him.

So the God of heaven cannot speak to me abi?

He can only speak to you?

He is in your custody? You own him?

You're God's lawmaker?

You say the Rosary's are based on scriptures-given Mary all the authority to become your mediator and redeemer.
What kind of scriptures are they?
The tradition the disciples were talking about was the word of God, not man made rosary traditions.
Mary was blessed having the Child-this scripture shows us we can only receive our blessings by seeking after the word of God' and reacting on it.
Mary reacted on it-so she was blessed-and more to the fact, she bore God's child.
Mary is human like us. God had chosen Her-because she was found faithful towards Him-she isn't any different to us, we are born sinners, Jesus was the one born without sin.
God needed a Virgin, He needed someone who was innocent-when He had chosen Mary, she had given all her time over to God-it was her faith towards God that made God use her to be the right candidate, this is why she was chosen.
Did you understand that?
God had given Mary the opportunity-it was her faith' she had with God, she prayed to God, she worshipped God, she honoured God-everything she done was for God.

The Catholic's had twisted everything around-you don't Worship God-you Worship Mary, you have proven evidence in every Catholic Church that stands, Mary's name sits above every other name that is written in Heaven, you Worship her, you pray to her, you pray the Rosary's to her, you call her your Mediator and Redeemer, your Mother, she is your Queen of Heaven, Mother of God-she stands before you between Heaven and Hell, you have named her to be the second in charge {God didn't give her that authority to be second in charge-the Catholic Church did} you have named her to be the Queen of "all" the Angels and the Saints.

What doctrine is this? No-wonder us Christians can't understand why Catholic's call themselves Christians?
With proven facts you bow down to your priest, confessing to them about your sinful natures expecting they will forgive you, you believe in the power of men, before you would believe in the power of God,
Everyday the evidence just keeps on coming-massive crowds floods around the Vatican praising the Pope.

dmandy:
The Rosary is a collection of prayers that are based on the scriptures. It is not about traditions, ALL the wordings of the Rosary are based on the holy scriptures.



Mary was just the carrier? Yes. The Carrier of _____? So, you see St. Elizabeth was glad that the just carrier carried her Lord to her household. Will I be wrong to ask God for this kind of favour? That the one who is just a carrier just carries the lord to my household?



She did receive credit Sir,

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. Jesus is giving you and I the opportunity to be blessed like Mary who heard the word of God and KEPT it. Jesus gave her that credit and you Mr, cannot take it away from her. And Mary said, "Behold, the handmaid of the Lord; may it be done to me according to your word." This is the apex of obedience and TOTAL abandonment to the word of God.

Matthew 11:19 "But wisdom is proved right by her deeds. This scripture has nothing to do with Mary.
John 2:5 "This story is about the wedding-yes I agree His mother did tell the servants working at the wedding that night to listen to Jesus. It was a one off, there is no other recorded scriptures written in the bible where she gave any other orders to anybody.

John 19:27 "Then He said to the disciple John {not all of the disciples} only John standing at the foot of the cross-behold this is your mother, mother this is your son.

Matthew 7:7 "Ask and it will be given seek and you will find, knock and it will be open to you.
seek the kingdom and all things shall be added to you.

Am I reading this right-have the Catholic's changed their tune? Did you say Jesus is the head of your church your mediator between Him and God? Does this mean Mary is "not" your mediator and redeemer?
If this is the case-get rid of your idols and the rosary's, and come and join us in prayer directly to God.
Amen.

dmandy:
people fight what they don't understand. It's normal.

Mtt 11:18 "For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon!' 19"The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds."

Yes, you want to know why? Follow me to John 2:5 where she tells you and I "Do whatever He tells you." Will you listen to her or not? If it pleased God to choose your isis-Mary and old pagan Mary to be the mother of His only begotten son, what can you do about it? Nothing.
Have you ever heard them preach Jesus at all.

Follow catholics to john 19:27 Then He said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" Don't blame them. The same way they trope in mass to visit the city wherein he dwelt.
It Jesus can so get nourishment from her, why can't you. Only Ask. (Matt 7:7).
No jealousy, you too can receive the crown only if like Mary, you can hear the word and keep it. On the contrary they recognize the scriptures very very well. All Authority has been given to Jesus, and together all the saints (You and I in the company of Mary and all the angels and saints) shall approach the throne of his grace aiding one another.
The head of the Church, our lord and mediator with God.

No, you should not. Rather follow me and pray 'our mother' lead us to your Son Jesus.

2 Thess 2:15 "Talks about the traditions of the word of God-that was taught by the disciples, not your old pagan traditions.
And their is no part in scripture, where Jesus talks about the rosary's.
Your worldly God gave you permission to pray the rosary's. Not the heavenly God.

Luke 1:42-44 "Mary receiving the Holy Spirit, later she had visited Elisabeth also with child, said she felt her child leaping up for joy inside her womb, Elisabeth couldn't believe her eye's that the mother of my lord should come to me.
So this scripture isn't about Mary, its all about Jesus-Mary was just the carrier. Look what happened when Jesus was born, 3 wise men and the shepherds, were sent by God to see Jesus.

Lets look further into Luke 11:27-28 "As Jesus was saying these things a woman in the crown, called out saying blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.
Lets look what Jesus said: bless are those who hear the word of God and observe it.
Mary didn't receive any credit here, not even a blessing-Jesus made a point of saying blessed are those who hear the word of God and does it.

italo:
What does it matter that you're confused with the idea of the Rosary?

Hundreds of millions of people are confused about your own anti-Rosary idea...and they consider it scriptural.

Luke1:28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Luke1:42 And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Matt6:9 Pray then like this:

“Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
10 Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
    on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread,
12 and forgive us our debts,
    as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,
    but deliver us from evil.

Etc.

And the Bible also said we should hold fast to both Scripture and Church Tradition. 2Thess2:15.

And no part of scripture says "The Rosary is bad."

And billions of people also believe you don't know God.

And God has confirmed to me that the Rosary is from him.

Do what Jesus would do?
You know you are disobeying the word of God. You know it wasn't God of heaven speaking to you-but the God of this world.
And If you were to obey God's commandments-you would follow after His words true and true.
The only reason you refuse to obey God's commandments is because you would be disqualified from the Catholic Church. .

italo:
Even when he confirmed to me that the Rosary is from him?

And he never commanded me not to pray the Rosary...so I'm not disobeying.

I am sure you can think for yourself-and if you knew God as you say you do-then you wouldn't go out of your way and disobey Him by praying the rosary's when you know, it isn't scriptural.

italo:
What I meant was: since God himself has confirmed to me that The Rosary is from him, can I go ahead and pray it?

Or should I still listen to you and not pray it?

"No" I am surprised that God even spoke to you about the rosary's that's not even scriptural. When God speaks, He backs it up with the word of God.
This is how we know it's God. If God spoke to you, as you say, then at least show us where in scripture, God told you' to pray the rosary's?
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 "Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the spirit who is from God, so we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining with spiritual thought with spiritual words.
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to Him, and He cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
This is why we are confused-I honestly believe you weren't speaking to God in heaven, but rather you were speaking with the God of this world.

italo:
Why all the harsh comments?

Simply because I talked to God and he confirmed to me that the Rosary is from him?

Are you angry that God speaks to me?

You believe that God is in your custody and can only speak to who you want him to speak to?

Why do Catholic's bow down to Mary? Answer>they can't find God.
The Catholic's had devoted their life's fully to obey only the Queen of Heaven, Mother of God' "Isis-Mary" an old pagan practice that can never be broken inside the minds of the Catholic Church.
Little do they preach about Jesus-we find through history-the un-biblical-stories' are not even close to the biblical truth about Christ.

The Catholic's recognize Mary as Mother, They believe, to be like Jesus, they must sit in the lab that He rested in, and they must try to please the Mother, He pleased.
They believe they must depend on Mary for spiritual nourishments, just as Jesus depended on her for 9 months while He was formed in Mary's womb.
They believe Mary received the promise "the un-fading crown of glory, because her life was perfectly resembled that of her Sons and because she shared in all His sufferings.
1 Peter 5:4 "Speaks of the crown of glory that will never fade away-they believe Mary was crowned by God Himself given her full dominion over all the Angels and the saints.
The crown of glory will never fade away-which faithful elders retrieve. However it is clear from the rest of what Peter wrote in 1 Peter 1:7-4:13-14-5:10. that this is nothing less than any other Christian who receives.

So it shows the Catholic Church haven't recognised the scriptures, where Jesus receives God's full authority-but as it seems Mary retrieved His authority. Mary is known to the Catholic's' as the head of all the Saint's and of course the Angels?
So I ask-what role does Jesus play?
Pray-Our "Mother" who is in heaven hollowed be your name, your kingdom come, that will be done, on earth as it is in heaven?

Correction>I have talked with Uben and he confirmed that the Rosary's is from Him.

italo:
I have talked to God and he confirmed that the Rosary is from him.

So what should I do?