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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Have I upset you again?
Ubenedictus:
WHO TALK TO U?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Go back to Fatima and ask the children.
italo:
I have talked to God and he confirmed that the Rosary is from him.

So what should I do?
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe in Being Born Again? by brocab: 3:43pm On Dec 13, 2015
I can mention one person who aren't sinning, His Name is Jesus. I actually dealt if you are a Pentecostal, pentecostal's don't deny the word of God. As you have below.

John 3:3 "Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.
The phase born again literally means "born from above" "Nicodemus had a real need, he needed a change of his heart, a spiritual transformation, New birth, being born again, is an act of God whereby eternal life has been imparted to the person who believes,

Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if he is in Christ he is a new creation, the old has past away behold the new has come.
1 Peter 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has caused us to be Born again to the living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
1 John 2:29 "If you know that He is righteous you maybe sure, that everyone who practises righteousness has been born of Him.
Titus 3:5-1 John 3:9-4:7-5:1-18-John 1:12-13 indicates that being "Born again" also carries the idea of becoming children of God.

Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Sinners are spiritually dead, when they receive spiritual life through faith in Christ, the bible likens to a rebirth. Only those who are born again have their sins forgiven, and have a relationship with God.

I could go on forever with this, but I think its time for you to reconsider changing your verdict, If you have chosen to abandon the term born again, like the Catholic's had, then its best for you to pray the rosary's asking Mary to save your soul.
paxonel:
Catholics abandoning the term born again are very correct about it.
we pentecostals are the ones confusing ourselves.
There is nothing like born again in Christianity.
It is either you believe in Christ (being in the Christian religion ) or you do not believe (being outside the Christian religion belonging to other religions )
i don't know why we christians are fighting ourselves by calling some christians born again and other christians who are sinful non born again?
who on earth is not commiting sin?
mention one person
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Most people didn't see Mary in Fatima, only the children as they say?
Mostly all the by-standers had given other descriptions, what they had seen each month wasn't the virgin Mary.
Hundreds described it like this, they saw a dis't shaped object with coloured spinning lights-others could only see a bright shining light-this description, sounds more like a UFO.
Think about this in the earlier Christian paintings their were usually UFO's painted behind the seine's. So what makes this story any different?
Francisco Marto claims he saw all, but he wasn't allowed to speak to the Virgin Mary, but he was told by the girls to pray the rosary's.
Jacinta Marto claims she seen and heard the Virgin Mary, but she had trouble speaking, Her mission was to pray to free the souls from hell.
Cousin Lucy Dos Santos, claims she had seen and heard the Virgin Mary, and as she grew she became a devoted nun.

This story is totally Catholic.
FrancisTony:
oMG. Mary gave children of Fatima the rosary. And about the Hail Mary full of grace, u seriously need to read all your new testament to know the origin. It's obvious u avnt been doing so
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 11:13am On Dec 13, 2015
Not only does he disagrees with most of your comments-we do too.
Ubenedictus:
wow i like ya points! Can u pls tell me abt some of my comment u disagree with?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab:
Quote>Jesus said: His true disciples will be prosecuted and Hated.
Jesus said go out unto the world and preach His gospel-not the Watchtowers gospel.
Everybody who doesn't belong to the JW's are hated.
You don't believe in holiday's, holy day's nor do you celebrate birthday's, or Christmas etc,, then ask yourselves this?
With biblical knowledge Jesus's first birthday was celebrated, by 3 wise men, and the shepherds who came in and worshipped Him giving Him gifts.
That's a celebration.
Galaxyroyp:
Haba Nigerian critics lying since 110B.C.E! @ the bolded part of your post.

Question for thoughts.
1. Are we not witnessing Jesus?[It's a Yes or No answer? You've got to tell me!]
You wonna proof say na you wey sabi witness Jesus?? Okay, when Jesus say go all ye nation and preach, whick kind christain religion dey preach like Jws?
Meaning others na ....

If na that Beautiful "Jehovah witness" they make una Jealous, kindly rename your church to Jesus witness church.
Wait sef, when Jesus say you gonna be my witness, why can't you name your church Jesus witness. (BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WONNA CRITIZE FROM THE "JW " POINT.)

Amoung the christain doctrine, ALL THE BIBLE ACCOUNT ARE BEING FULFILED BY JWS. Which kind?? You wanna know? Okay.

**JESUS SAID HIS TRUE DISCIPLE WILL BE PROCECUTED AND HATED* * See how government they procecute us, Infact you will know that Jws are the most most hated christain religion! (why?? Bible don talk am). Even my bro, See adolf Hitler! ADOLF, HITLER! He talk say him go wipe out Jw for Germany, See how he ended up his Life #oma se o.



***JESUS SAID: "YOU Gonna IDENTIFY MY TRUE DISCIPLES WITH LOVE "***
no matter our tribe we love ourselfs.

Conclusion:
I'm a type that doesn't like typing, but I was compelled to do so seeing how you are critizing.

Jehovah's witness are human beings not angel, we strive to uphold the bible principles.

The first centurians also strive to do so, paul even lamented.



#I_REP_A_JW #I'M_NOT_AN_EXTREMIS.

I URGE AND IMPLORE YOU TO WIDENING YOUR RESEARCHING PARAMATERS ON DOCTRINES LIKE: HELL FIRE, CHRISTMAS e.t.c IT'S NOT BIBLICAL

http://nairaland.com/samtrust covered and compiled a facet of the whlole ish.


P.S.S: to my fellow Jws. DON'T ARGUE WITH THEM, REMEMBER WHAT OUR WATCH TOWER STUDY EDITION SAYS!


To the person I quoted:
No insult intended. I respect you more than you think of.

One love.

(If no be for Jw's, the name Jehovah will have been eradicated.)


#I will not reply any quote that evolved as as a result of this.
If you wonna know the truth, the P.m button of nairaland is there. I will surely reply you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
As I said test the Spirits, and could you show me where in the bible does it say, we pray the rosary's?
Try talking to God without the rosary's-you may find Him a lot easier.
italo:
I tested the Spirit of the Rosary...and found that it is of God.

What should I do?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:36am On Dec 13, 2015
This is a common case within.
1 Timothy 6:5 "Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth, who think that godliness is the means of financial Gain,
From such withdraw yourselves.
These are false prophets. Test the Spirits behind these men, don't forget Its the word of God that saves us.
Vixo:
You are right...but what happens when they hide their fruits under pretence?

Amazing female bassist Xmas carol video on my signature....click to watch
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Jesus said by their fruit' you will know them.
1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see weather they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
This is how we know-who's right and who's wrong.
italo:
How do you know your pastor is performing "signs and wonders" by Christ's power, and not Satan's power. Are there not pastors who we hear use evil powers? Like T.B Joshua and Rev. King, some might say. How do I know that your pastor even performs any signs and wonders?



How do you know he is preaching the solid gospel with the Holy Spirit's backing? Can you prove it? Are you saying your pastor cannot preach or teach something that is wrong?



In that case I'm anointed too because I do that with God's power and sometimes, through the intercession of Mary and the Saints. In Yoruba movies, I see where babalawos do that by appeasing deities responsible for people's problems to free them. Are these anointed too?
Could your pastor not be doing same?

You haven't given me concrete evidence or reason as to how you know your pastor is anointed.



Jesus said so in John 11:26:"and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

The Church he built also says so.

By communing with Mary and the Saints all my life I have realized that they are actually in heaven as Jesus and the Church say. I have had countless revelations to show that the Saints are just as Jesus and the Church say they are: ALIVE in HEAVEN!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:15am On Dec 13, 2015
Luke 11:27-28 "And it happened as He spoke these things, a certain woman standing in the crowd, raised her voice and said to Him, Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breast that nursed you. But He said, "more then that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it.
So you can see, not even Jesus, gave Mary His mother any credit.
Luke 8:20-21 "And it was reported to Him, your Mother and your brothers are standing outside, wishing to see you, but He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.
Still no credit.
Psalm 118:26 "Bless is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessings can only come from the Word of God.

Quote>Do we worship Mary? NO.
Of course you don't, you just stand in front of her statue, bowing your heads, kissing her feet before you walk into Church.
This isn't a sign of worship? NO.
Welder:
Ok. I am a Catholic.

I have to say while i dont agree with some comments from UBenedcitus and Italo, I have to hail them for standing by their faith. May we all win this earthly race.

To the OPs' question.

We pray with the Rosary because it is in our tradition, the church believes in the intercessory prayers of Mary and the angels and saints of God.

Do we worship Mary? NO, we dont; rather we honour her because of all humans she was singled out to bear Jesus Christ. You have to agree that since Jesus was pure and found without sin, the woman that bore him has to take some credit. I did rather go the route of seeking the intercessions of this extraordinary woman -medium rather than elsewhere. What do you think?

Bowing to her statue is not enshrined in the tradition of the church, its a persnal thingy. Some catholics dont, but i will rather revere every memory of this extraordinary woman since i can do same to the special people in my life.

I hope this is clear enough.

Shalom!
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe in Being Born Again? by brocab:
Only for those who claim they are Christian-the differences between a born again Christian, and a non born again Christian, is as simple as this.

A non born again Christian, are those who live according to the flesh, people who have set their minds on what the flesh desires.
Non born again Christians talks only of their Church, fellowships with their Church, and lives for their Church.

Born again Christians are spirit filled, who live accordance with the Spirit, having their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
A born again Christian talks about Christ, fellowships with Christ, and lives for Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by brocab: 9:58pm On Dec 12, 2015
Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and Earth will one day fade away-but the word of God will always stay.
lawani:
Children of God change their beliefs in the face of superior argument or more evidence. If you can't do that, it will be a sign of demon possession.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab:
Quote>Are you really making sense?
I suppose it would be difficult, for someone who isn't spiritually filled, of course nothing would make sense.
What do you do when you pray>you go into your secret place and pray to Jehovah, Jesus communicated the same way in prayer to His Father God.
All Christians do-but it makes it easier when one is Spirit filled.
John 17:20-21 "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word, that they may all be one, even as you, Father, are in Me, and I in you, that they also maybe in Us, so the world may believe that you sent Me.
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another comforter, that He may abide with you forever.
The evidence to these two scriptures have been proven 100 fold, men and women are risking their lives everyday, carrying the gospel all through the centuries, Spirit filled Christians are spreading the word of God, globally.
ableguy:
Are you really making sense?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab:
{1} Quote>The bible said Christ is the first born of all creation.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth-and the SPIRIT of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
Genesis 1:26-27 "Then God said: Let US make man in our own image. Did you read that? Who's image is God preferring to here, He said Us?
So if God created man in His own image. Than I ask, what does a Spirit image look like, without the man?
God is Spirit-as we all know it>So who was the other image, whom God had made?

{2} Quote>The verse said He was with God, can someone be with someone else, and at the same time be the person.
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word {Jesus} and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Come on, think brother>every man has a spirit, and of course we are connected to that spirit, without the spirit we are dead-with the spirit we are that same person. God's Spirit lived inside Jesus.

{3} Quote>Remember no man see's God and live again
We must all remember that Jesus carried His Father in Spirit and in truth, the Spirit of God lived in His Son Jesus, they are the one' and only true seed that ever lived.
ableguy:
Jehovah's witnesses never told you Jesus isn't God, the Bible rather teaches that Jehovah is the only Almighty God. Nobody ever said he Jesus isn't a God however they don't uphold the Trinity doctrine it's unscriptural.
Get 3 things right here: (1) The Bible verse said in the beginning. Does Almighty God Jehovah have a beginning? No, so here was referring to the beginning of creation. The Bible said Christ is the firstborn of all creation. (2) The verse siad he was with God, can someone be with someone else and at the same time be the person? (3) And last the word later dwell with men, was it Almighty God Jehovah? Remember no man sees God and live again Christ died Almighty God doesn't besides he resurrected Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by brocab: 10:16pm On Dec 11, 2015
Lets all change our belief's so we can confuse the world.
lawani:
The true spiritual practices are the traditional ones that are indigenous to all cultures, then Buddhism and other practices that do not have airs or a demonic know it all attitude. Abrahamic religions are not from God. Confusion is not from God. However JWs should be commended for having the courage to change their beliefs from time to time. That is moral courage. Jesus and Mohammed can't do that.
Christianity EtcRe: Should Catholic Tradition Have Equal Or Greater Authority Than The Bible? by brocab: 4:34pm On Dec 11, 2015
1529
Ubenedictus:
WHEN DID PROTESTANTISM BEGIN?
Christianity EtcRe: Should Catholic Tradition Have Equal Or Greater Authority Than The Bible? by brocab:
There's a lot of questions to ask about your religion, this is not rubbish-but I never asked you to respond with an insult. Since you have replied to my post, can you give me the answers to my question, why did the Church change the two commandments, when they knew, its against God?
I really can't expect you to answer this, but of course it seems you Catholic's think you have all the answers.
Also can you explain why the Church believe Peter is the head, the Rock, the foundation of your Church-and yet none of you seem to recognize the truth about Christ.

After you murdered Peter, {and Paul of course} you have claimed he is buried under the Vatican-If this is true-then I suppose you can claim the Vatican is built on Peter's resting place.
Matthew 16:18 "And I tell you' that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My Church.
This scripture must be very confusing for you to understand, it has nothing to do with Peter, matter of fact-Jesus was preferring to building His Church on solid foundation, which means, the Rock is the word of God.
1 Corinthians 3:11 "For no-one can lay any foundation, other then the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

What happen to Peter's wife-where was she buried, and where did you bury Paul?

Jolliano:
Brocab, you sent thw first two messages and I refused to answer you because you don't have an argument but you just want to talk all the rubbish about the Church that you can.

But it seems I will have to respond to you, not because I expect you to take correction but for the others who are reading this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: "Stop Giving Offerings In Redeemed Churches If....." - Pastor Adeboye by brocab:
It's funny when we hear of the many twisted scriptures being turned around-for cash.
The Lord said: who's description do you find on this coin, the people said Caesar, Jesus then said: give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God' what belongs to God.
Nothing has changed since-we are no-longer under the authority of Caesar. Since then the world has printed their own monies, with different description's on each.
And since then, nothing has changed, our money always returns back to our governments, as Jesus had pointed it out, like in the day's of Caesar.
Caesar was governor in that year.
We can see in this day and age many people seemed to be confused, and of course this gives the wolves a chance to twist a few scriptures around to confuse the idea who God really is?
God created everything as we know it-but really their has to be a fine line between what God wants, and what you want?
God isn't after your finances, He isn't after your homes, your cars, or Jets, all He is asking is for you to seek after Him, pray to Him-and study the word of God.
No cash involved, how hard does this sound-Jesus said' give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar {Money} and give to God what belongs to God {First seek His kingdom and all things shall be added to you-Study His word}
Christianity EtcRe: Should Catholic Tradition Have Equal Or Greater Authority Than The Bible? by brocab:
After the Catholic's had corrupted them-it was the Catholic Church who had changed history against 2 of Gods 10 commandments.
And besides theirs no proven evidence-that the Catholic Church is the head of all Churches, it's only he's say, your say.
It's an insult, the Catholic's are claiming it was Peter one of Jesus's disciples who led your Church.

It seems no-one had read between the lines, Peter was murdered because he refused to mix Christianity with pagan religion..
Peter didn't have enough room in his heart to store away such rubbish. Mixing the two religions together-hoping no-one would notice-and those who stood their grounds were murdered.
None what the Catholic Church has claimed it to be' does not make sense, you say Peter's your head-and yet Jesus is Peter's head-and Peter never wanted to disappoint Jesus, he obeyed the word of God, even God's 10 commandments-but yet you have denied Peter and Christ-you have changed 2 of God's 10 commandments.
Exodus 20:4 "You shall have on other God's before Me, you shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness for what is in Heaven, above or what is on the Earth beneath, or in the water under the Earth, you shall not worship them or serve them.
Exodus 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy. Six days you shall labour and do all your work.
Which isn't the Sunday.
Deuteronomy 17:3 "And hath gone and served other Gods, and worshipped them, either the Sun or Moon or any of the host in heaven, which I have not commanded.
Its the Sunday worship that gives the protestants away-it's unfortunate the protestants had even followed after your crazy idea, to worship the Sun on Sunday.
Ubenedictus:
WHEN DID PROTESTANTISM BEGIN?
Christianity EtcRe: Five Sins That Will Take Many Christians To Hell Fire by brocab:
It's funny listening to you tithers trying to twist the scriptures around, pushing for the cash, rather then the truth.
What you are doing is wrong' and its not biblical.
You are pushing the innocent by-standers to hand over their hard earned weekly wage.

When we read Malcahi it sure spells it out pretty clear-the right way how tithing was to be treated-bring all your tithes {Foods} into the store house so My people will be FED.
Simple enough to understand? but as usual, you have twisted the word of God, the more you give in cash, the more blessings you receive.
It's a pact of lies, and you know it. God don't give to retrieve it back from you-once He gives it's yours. Say when God gives you life-He doesn't take it back-its your choice to live for God-or live alone.
Jesus was BORN while the full obedience to the Mosaic law was required of Jews, Jesus LIVED while the full obedience to the Mosaic law was required, Jesus was KILLED while the Mosaic law was required for the Jews! The time context of Matthew 23:23 is law, but not the New Covenant of the Grace of the Church.
Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay TITHE of MINT ANISE and CUMMIN and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: Justice mercy and faith, these you ought had done without leaving the others undone.
Luke 11:41-42 "But rather give aims {Charity-to the poor} of such things as you have, and behold, all things are clean to you.
But woe to you, Pharisees! for you TITHE MINT and RUE and all manner of HERBS and pass over judgement and the love of God; these you ought have done without leaving the others undone.
It don't matter what scripture we open up in the bible-the tithing systems is all the same, tithing is about a food substance.
Not Money.
Just think if the Churches obeyed the tithing system how God wanted them to tithe-the Churches will no longer have a need in GREED AND SELFISHNESS.
Just think if this world wasn't about selfishness and greed-and they tithed the way God wanted them to tithe, then the world will be a better place to live, NO-ONE WOULD STARVE.
enochraf:
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell
your possessions and give to the poor, and you will
have treasure in heaven...Mathew 19 vs 21.
Jesus also talk about it wen he was criticizing d pharisees mathew 23 vs 23....also read..Luke 18 vs 12
both old testament and new testament are dey written tru d inspiration of holy spirit?? or if u are reading Bible, did u read only new testament
tithe might not be compulsory for you
but GOD commanded it.....whatever God said changeth not......
besides..... God dont really need our money.... u giving it is showing dat u realized he is d one DAT provide for u
and he will bless you more
Christianity EtcRe: Five Sins That Will Take Many Christians To Hell Fire by brocab:
Number 3>Malachi 3:8 "Said bring all your tithes into the storehouse-so My people maybe fed, {Shocks,Crops, food}God wanted certain people to pay tithes bringing foods to the Levite priesthood back then-every year at least 23% of these foods were given, paying tithes wasn't for everybody-Not even Jesus paid tithes, and Jesus went to heaven.
Number 4>Everybody who have committed themselves to tithe, then you must tithe the way God had commanded you to tithe, bring all your foods into the storehouse-obeying these commandments would surely change the Church, their wouldn't be any room left for selfishness and Greed.
Tithing wasn't put in place' so one could become rich.
Matthew 6:24 "No-one can serve two masters-Either he will hate the one and love the other. You can not serve God and Mammon at the same time. Selfishness and greed.
Number 5>1 Corinthians 9:16 "Neglecting to preach salvation to the sinners huh
Lordgel:
These are some of the sins that will take many christians to hell fire.

1. Lust (Matthew 5:28, 1 John 2:15-16)

2. Fornication (1 Corinthians 6:18)

3. Refusing to pay tithes and offerings (Malachi 3:8

4. Selfishness and greed (2 Timothy 3:2) and

5. Negleting to preach salvation to sinners (1 Corinthians 9:16).

cc: lalasticlala
Christianity EtcRe: Five Sins That Will Take Many Christians To Hell Fire by brocab:
So your not sure If you are a Christian or not? STRANGE.
urahara:
6 sin of reasoning
Christianity EtcRe: Five Sins That Will Take Many Christians To Hell Fire by brocab: 2:22am On Dec 08, 2015
Are you a Christian huh
Lordgel:
These are some of the sins that will take many christians to hell fire.

1. Lust (Matthew 5:28, 1 John 2:15-16)

2. Fornication (1 Corinthians 6:18)

3. Refusing to pay tithes and offerings (Malachi 3:8

4. Selfishness and greed (2 Timothy 3:2) and

5. Negleting to preach salvation to sinners (1 Corinthians 9:16).

cc: lalasticlala
Christianity EtcRe: Five Sins That Will Take Many Christians To Hell Fire by brocab: 2:19am On Dec 08, 2015
Neither can a thief who robs from the poor in tithes and offerings.
Lordgel:
Wouldnt it be better to start paying your tithes before it is too late? a robber cannot make heaven (Malachi 3:8
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Be Making A Mistake By Becoming A Jehovah's Witness? by brocab: 3:52pm On Dec 07, 2015
Well I have news for you-once you become a Jehovah witnesses and baptised, they own you-they own everything you have, no-more freedom, your new families are JW's, you can't associate with the outside world, your family and friends you once knew, no-longer exist.
Your finances, homes, lands, and businesses, all belongs to the watchtower organization.

Without asking the church has full access to your bank accounts, plus the volunteers of donations they retrieve from each of you.
Who's buying the private jets and the fancy mega homes now, without asking.
Re: Will I Be Making A Mistake By Becoming A Jehovah's Witness?

How is that a mistake? Religious judgement. @least they don't scam member's ask for money donation like most of other churches in Nigeria/Africa. Don't ask the church memeber to provide Hummer and private jets for em. Plus they are frendly

I love them and Mormon. Oh Anglican + Catholic
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Be Making A Mistake By Becoming A Jehovah's Witness? by brocab: 3:28pm On Dec 07, 2015
Russell was a 33 Rd degree Freemason, before and after he had started the Jehovah witnesses.
Jesus said you can not serve two masters you will either hate the one and love the other, Russell served as masons are trained to serve..
Josh090:
Yes, I am a jw and I don't expect you be become wiser frm wot I'm abt to say but I hope u will.
1. How does C.T Russell's disagreements with status quo make him anti-Christ? Is it because he is against mainstream Christianity? Note: Matt 7;13.
2. You said witnesses are generally good! Now does a bad tree produce fine fruits? Note: Matt 7;20
P.s the fact dt we refine our beliefs shows dt we are ready to be corrected by Jehovah, unlike many religions today dt still hold onto their false beliefs (e.g rulership of this present world belongs to God) under the face of abundant evidence proving otherwise.
You have nothing of disrepute to say abt my religion that I have not heard b4, so you can keep ur ancient history to urself.
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Be Making A Mistake By Becoming A Jehovah's Witness? by brocab: 3:19pm On Dec 07, 2015
Look up in the JW's bible Acts 8:37?
Josh090:
Wow, ozichim, your reply was long but made little sense, you didn't make any noteworthy point against jw's.
You said to find out abt Russell, have you looked into founders of all these churches u highlighted? Hypocrite!
Where does the jw's teaching say Jesus is not a son of God?
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Be Making A Mistake By Becoming A Jehovah's Witness? by brocab:
Quote? The JW's also believe the Father the Son and the Holy ghost are 3 different people-just the way you were taught?
Firstly> As counted, Jesus came into this world as one man.
Secondly>God's Spirit is love, He is light, He is the glory that shines in the darkness, He is the light of this world, and yet no-one had seen God at any time? Jesus said: if you have seen Me you have seen the Father.
Jesus still stands as one man.
Thirdly>Jesus also said after He leaves He will send us another comforter. And had you notice-it's the Holy Spirit who utters to our spirits in each of us' in Spirit and in truth, that Jesus Christ is Lord.
The Hebrew word of Spirit is often translated as wind or breath, and God formed man out of dust from the ground, and breathed unto him the breath of life' the man then became a living soul. Jesus also claims he is the bread of life, the light of the world.
So if the Spirit is the breath of life-then the Spirit is Christ, both are one the same, all in all.

Luke 1:34-35 "And Mary said to the angel, How will this be since I am a virgin, And the angel answered her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the most high will over shadow you, therefore the child to be born, will be called Holy the Son of God.

2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is the Spirit-and where is the Spirit of the Lord is' there is liberty.
So if the comforter is Jesus in Spirit as the bible says>then it proves their was only one man, Not 3 different people.
robert1954:
I am not a jw but I have been checking out their beliefs and things and I have talked to a few of them and my bible and their bible says all the same things but just worded different and they do believe that the father the son and the holy ghost are 3 different people just like I was taught from a kid to now and I am Nazarene and I don't see where they are that much different other than they don't celebrate many holidays but they have very good explanations as why they don't.They are close family and god loving people and they do teach the word from the bible unlike a lot of churches I have been too....
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witness Dies After Rejecting Blood Transfusion by brocab:
The sad thing about this story is once you become a Jehovah witness your body belongs the them-you actually sign a contract-once you become baptised you belong to the watchtower, meaning everything you have, finances. homes, lands, businesses, everything now belongs to the church.
But it seems-YOUR FLESH AND BLOOD IS WORTHLESS? The Watchtower don't seem to care-ABOUT THE LIFE OF THEIR OWN.
The Watchtower have used Acts 15 as a glide line to manipulate, all believers belonging to their kingdom.
This is what Acts says> Act 15:20 "Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.
It is clear' the scripture has nothing to do with blood transfusion. Blood transfusions weren't even possible in bible times.
Back in those day's it was pagan religious practices that involved eating and drinking blood, strangling animals to keep more of its blood in the meat. This is what the bible is speaking against. NOT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
Its a Christian's duty to help those in need, given all what we have to retrieve our goals, even if it does mean a blood transfusion.
Remember we may have that same blood group, people need most.

Wrong teaching's can and will destroy life's. Instead of helping save a life, the church destroyed one.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Jehovah Witness & Watchtower Magazine Teach That Is Wrong ? BEWARE by brocab:
We need to understand people' the JW's bible isn't the same as the bible we read. Mainly because of some bright spark Charles Russell a 33 Rd Freemason discovered a new way to rewrite the bible. Russell started up a church calling himself a Jehovah witness, which he believed was the true church of Christ-this is what he is telling his followers anyway.
Russell wanted to change history, he couldn't accept the truth about Jesus, so he continualed to misquote scriptures from the bible, the Freemasons plans are to change the world, as we know it.
Russell and his colleges coursed confusion across the globe-and of course the spirit of Freemasonry led many of his new followers to believe.
Russell couldn't settle with only one master.
Matthew 6:24 "No-one can serve two masters, he will either hate the one or love the other.
SOMEONE TOLD ME IF YOU KNOW HOW TO SPEAK A GOOD YARN, PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IT.
And sure enough millions did.
There are many scriptures taken out of context Acts 8:37 "I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. When thinking about this issue, why did they? When we all know Jesus Christ is Lord.
The JW's believe Jesus is the Arc angel Michael, who had become a man and later returned to God as a angel, the angel now sits in heaven on the right side of God, as Jesus.
There are to many scriptures the JW's have taking out from the bible, which of course' problems have risen with other believers, this is why, between us all, we find so many confused miss quotes.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only True Follower Of Christ:::**see Proof**:: by brocab:
I always find it funny when I hear certain religious groups claiming they are the one true Church-while the rest are just wasting time and effort...
As we can see-some one is confused, preaching the gospel that Jesus Himself is preferring too, isn't the same as preaching from the watchtowers magazines, two different gospels. And of course you believe Jesus is the Arc Angel Michael. Again two different gospels.
Really do you honestly believe-Jesus told you to preach His gospel, that not even you, believe?

You may not celebrate holidays-nor celebrate birthdays, as others do.
You have separated your children away from other children, lack of communications without choice-etc.

What your not understanding is, fellowship brings people together from all walks of life-learning times, mealtimes-social times, playtimes, work times, God times, prayer times, bad times, good times. We are made in God's image-we need God-God uses us, like People need people.
Christ gave us a commandment to love one another-seeing a child, a wife or even a husband giving or receiving, a gift, a hug, maybe a few words to say I love you.
You may even receive it from a friend, a unsaved neighbour, Or maybe" you still received mail from a long lost friend, you once knew..

Where their is Love, the present of God works all in all.

Its must be hard for you, to see your love ones missing out on these special events.
It must be hard for you to see your child looking through a window watching other children play.
It must be hard for you to lock your children away from family-friends they once knew.
It must be hard for you to hear your children crying every night before they sleep.
It must be hard for you to see your children frightened and lonely.
It must be hard for you to see your child being bullied at school.
It must be hard for you to see your child not celebrating birthdays-nor receiving gifts from you.
It must be hard for you to turn your back' when your child, wife, husband needs you most.
It must be hard for you-to read Colossians 2:16 "Let no-man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or inspect of a Holyday or of a new moon or of a Sabbath day.
It must be hard for you to accept When Jesus Himself was born, shepherds arrived, later at the house wise men gave free gifts to Jesus and His family
WHILE YOUR OWN CHILD RECEIVES NONE.
Is this the gospel you want people to discover, separating yourselves from your own nesting's, away from your children, families and friends, you once knew?
1. Jesus instructed his followers to preach the gospel--> Unlike other churches who oly broadcast on TV or have their member go in packs on the streets distributing church invites, jehovahs witnesses are the only group of christians who still patiently o from house to house teaching people

2. Celebration of pagan holidays- christs' date of birth is not recorded in the bible, and he never instructed that we help him celebrate it, amongst many other pagan holidays.. And jehovahs witnesses are he only people who dont celebrate these pagan holidays.

3. Non-request or tithe- jehovahs witnesses dont ask their members for tithe, instead they donate undisclosed amount out of freewill.

non-segregation of members- unlike most churches where the big men sit on comfy chairs while ordinary members sit on plastic chairs or where titles such as most. reverend, senior pastor, his holiness, and many others.. jehovahs witnesses either adress each other by name or add the prefix brother or sister.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by brocab: 11:33pm On Dec 03, 2015
And what's your point?
PrinceVictorE:
I believe in God The eternal father
I believe in His son Jesus Christ
And I believe in the Holy Ghost

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