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Have I upset you again? Ubenedictus: |
Go back to Fatima and ask the children. italo: |
I can mention one person who aren't sinning, His Name is Jesus. I actually dealt if you are a Pentecostal, pentecostal's don't deny the word of God. As you have below. John 3:3 "Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God. The phase born again literally means "born from above" "Nicodemus had a real need, he needed a change of his heart, a spiritual transformation, New birth, being born again, is an act of God whereby eternal life has been imparted to the person who believes, Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if he is in Christ he is a new creation, the old has past away behold the new has come. 1 Peter 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has caused us to be Born again to the living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. 1 John 2:29 "If you know that He is righteous you maybe sure, that everyone who practises righteousness has been born of Him. Titus 3:5-1 John 3:9-4:7-5:1-18-John 1:12-13 indicates that being "Born again" also carries the idea of becoming children of God. Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Sinners are spiritually dead, when they receive spiritual life through faith in Christ, the bible likens to a rebirth. Only those who are born again have their sins forgiven, and have a relationship with God. I could go on forever with this, but I think its time for you to reconsider changing your verdict, If you have chosen to abandon the term born again, like the Catholic's had, then its best for you to pray the rosary's asking Mary to save your soul. paxonel: |
Most people didn't see Mary in Fatima, only the children as they say? Mostly all the by-standers had given other descriptions, what they had seen each month wasn't the virgin Mary. Hundreds described it like this, they saw a dis't shaped object with coloured spinning lights-others could only see a bright shining light-this description, sounds more like a UFO. Think about this in the earlier Christian paintings their were usually UFO's painted behind the seine's. So what makes this story any different? Francisco Marto claims he saw all, but he wasn't allowed to speak to the Virgin Mary, but he was told by the girls to pray the rosary's. Jacinta Marto claims she seen and heard the Virgin Mary, but she had trouble speaking, Her mission was to pray to free the souls from hell. Cousin Lucy Dos Santos, claims she had seen and heard the Virgin Mary, and as she grew she became a devoted nun. This story is totally Catholic. FrancisTony: |
Not only does he disagrees with most of your comments-we do too. Ubenedictus: |
Quote>Jesus said: His true disciples will be prosecuted and Hated. Jesus said go out unto the world and preach His gospel-not the Watchtowers gospel. Everybody who doesn't belong to the JW's are hated. You don't believe in holiday's, holy day's nor do you celebrate birthday's, or Christmas etc,, then ask yourselves this? With biblical knowledge Jesus's first birthday was celebrated, by 3 wise men, and the shepherds who came in and worshipped Him giving Him gifts. That's a celebration. Galaxyroyp: |
As I said test the Spirits, and could you show me where in the bible does it say, we pray the rosary's? Try talking to God without the rosary's-you may find Him a lot easier. italo: |
This is a common case within. 1 Timothy 6:5 "Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth, who think that godliness is the means of financial Gain, From such withdraw yourselves. These are false prophets. Test the Spirits behind these men, don't forget Its the word of God that saves us. Vixo: |
Jesus said by their fruit' you will know them. 1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see weather they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how we know-who's right and who's wrong. italo: |
Luke 11:27-28 "And it happened as He spoke these things, a certain woman standing in the crowd, raised her voice and said to Him, Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breast that nursed you. But He said, "more then that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it. So you can see, not even Jesus, gave Mary His mother any credit. Luke 8:20-21 "And it was reported to Him, your Mother and your brothers are standing outside, wishing to see you, but He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it. Still no credit. Psalm 118:26 "Bless is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessings can only come from the Word of God. Quote>Do we worship Mary? NO. Of course you don't, you just stand in front of her statue, bowing your heads, kissing her feet before you walk into Church. This isn't a sign of worship? NO. Welder: |
Only for those who claim they are Christian-the differences between a born again Christian, and a non born again Christian, is as simple as this. A non born again Christian, are those who live according to the flesh, people who have set their minds on what the flesh desires. Non born again Christians talks only of their Church, fellowships with their Church, and lives for their Church. Born again Christians are spirit filled, who live accordance with the Spirit, having their minds set on what the Spirit desires. A born again Christian talks about Christ, fellowships with Christ, and lives for Christ. |
Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and Earth will one day fade away-but the word of God will always stay. lawani: |
Quote>Are you really making sense? I suppose it would be difficult, for someone who isn't spiritually filled, of course nothing would make sense. What do you do when you pray>you go into your secret place and pray to Jehovah, Jesus communicated the same way in prayer to His Father God. All Christians do-but it makes it easier when one is Spirit filled. John 17:20-21 "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word, that they may all be one, even as you, Father, are in Me, and I in you, that they also maybe in Us, so the world may believe that you sent Me. John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another comforter, that He may abide with you forever. The evidence to these two scriptures have been proven 100 fold, men and women are risking their lives everyday, carrying the gospel all through the centuries, Spirit filled Christians are spreading the word of God, globally. ableguy: |
{1} Quote>The bible said Christ is the first born of all creation. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth-and the SPIRIT of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Genesis 1:26-27 "Then God said: Let US make man in our own image. Did you read that? Who's image is God preferring to here, He said Us? So if God created man in His own image. Than I ask, what does a Spirit image look like, without the man? God is Spirit-as we all know it>So who was the other image, whom God had made? {2} Quote>The verse said He was with God, can someone be with someone else, and at the same time be the person. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word {Jesus} and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Come on, think brother>every man has a spirit, and of course we are connected to that spirit, without the spirit we are dead-with the spirit we are that same person. God's Spirit lived inside Jesus. {3} Quote>Remember no man see's God and live again We must all remember that Jesus carried His Father in Spirit and in truth, the Spirit of God lived in His Son Jesus, they are the one' and only true seed that ever lived. ableguy: |
Lets all change our belief's so we can confuse the world. lawani: |
1529 Ubenedictus: |
There's a lot of questions to ask about your religion, this is not rubbish-but I never asked you to respond with an insult. Since you have replied to my post, can you give me the answers to my question, why did the Church change the two commandments, when they knew, its against God? I really can't expect you to answer this, but of course it seems you Catholic's think you have all the answers. Also can you explain why the Church believe Peter is the head, the Rock, the foundation of your Church-and yet none of you seem to recognize the truth about Christ. After you murdered Peter, {and Paul of course} you have claimed he is buried under the Vatican-If this is true-then I suppose you can claim the Vatican is built on Peter's resting place. Matthew 16:18 "And I tell you' that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My Church. This scripture must be very confusing for you to understand, it has nothing to do with Peter, matter of fact-Jesus was preferring to building His Church on solid foundation, which means, the Rock is the word of God. 1 Corinthians 3:11 "For no-one can lay any foundation, other then the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. What happen to Peter's wife-where was she buried, and where did you bury Paul? Jolliano: |
It's funny when we hear of the many twisted scriptures being turned around-for cash. The Lord said: who's description do you find on this coin, the people said Caesar, Jesus then said: give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God' what belongs to God. Nothing has changed since-we are no-longer under the authority of Caesar. Since then the world has printed their own monies, with different description's on each. And since then, nothing has changed, our money always returns back to our governments, as Jesus had pointed it out, like in the day's of Caesar. Caesar was governor in that year. We can see in this day and age many people seemed to be confused, and of course this gives the wolves a chance to twist a few scriptures around to confuse the idea who God really is? God created everything as we know it-but really their has to be a fine line between what God wants, and what you want? God isn't after your finances, He isn't after your homes, your cars, or Jets, all He is asking is for you to seek after Him, pray to Him-and study the word of God. No cash involved, how hard does this sound-Jesus said' give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar {Money} and give to God what belongs to God {First seek His kingdom and all things shall be added to you-Study His word} |
After the Catholic's had corrupted them-it was the Catholic Church who had changed history against 2 of Gods 10 commandments. And besides theirs no proven evidence-that the Catholic Church is the head of all Churches, it's only he's say, your say. It's an insult, the Catholic's are claiming it was Peter one of Jesus's disciples who led your Church. It seems no-one had read between the lines, Peter was murdered because he refused to mix Christianity with pagan religion.. Peter didn't have enough room in his heart to store away such rubbish. Mixing the two religions together-hoping no-one would notice-and those who stood their grounds were murdered. None what the Catholic Church has claimed it to be' does not make sense, you say Peter's your head-and yet Jesus is Peter's head-and Peter never wanted to disappoint Jesus, he obeyed the word of God, even God's 10 commandments-but yet you have denied Peter and Christ-you have changed 2 of God's 10 commandments. Exodus 20:4 "You shall have on other God's before Me, you shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness for what is in Heaven, above or what is on the Earth beneath, or in the water under the Earth, you shall not worship them or serve them. Exodus 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy. Six days you shall labour and do all your work. Which isn't the Sunday. Deuteronomy 17:3 "And hath gone and served other Gods, and worshipped them, either the Sun or Moon or any of the host in heaven, which I have not commanded. Its the Sunday worship that gives the protestants away-it's unfortunate the protestants had even followed after your crazy idea, to worship the Sun on Sunday. Ubenedictus: |
It's funny listening to you tithers trying to twist the scriptures around, pushing for the cash, rather then the truth. What you are doing is wrong' and its not biblical. You are pushing the innocent by-standers to hand over their hard earned weekly wage. When we read Malcahi it sure spells it out pretty clear-the right way how tithing was to be treated-bring all your tithes {Foods} into the store house so My people will be FED. Simple enough to understand? but as usual, you have twisted the word of God, the more you give in cash, the more blessings you receive. It's a pact of lies, and you know it. God don't give to retrieve it back from you-once He gives it's yours. Say when God gives you life-He doesn't take it back-its your choice to live for God-or live alone. Jesus was BORN while the full obedience to the Mosaic law was required of Jews, Jesus LIVED while the full obedience to the Mosaic law was required, Jesus was KILLED while the Mosaic law was required for the Jews! The time context of Matthew 23:23 is law, but not the New Covenant of the Grace of the Church. Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay TITHE of MINT ANISE and CUMMIN and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: Justice mercy and faith, these you ought had done without leaving the others undone. Luke 11:41-42 "But rather give aims {Charity-to the poor} of such things as you have, and behold, all things are clean to you. But woe to you, Pharisees! for you TITHE MINT and RUE and all manner of HERBS and pass over judgement and the love of God; these you ought have done without leaving the others undone. It don't matter what scripture we open up in the bible-the tithing systems is all the same, tithing is about a food substance. Not Money. Just think if the Churches obeyed the tithing system how God wanted them to tithe-the Churches will no longer have a need in GREED AND SELFISHNESS. Just think if this world wasn't about selfishness and greed-and they tithed the way God wanted them to tithe, then the world will be a better place to live, NO-ONE WOULD STARVE. enochraf: |
Number 3>Malachi 3:8 "Said bring all your tithes into the storehouse-so My people maybe fed, {Shocks,Crops, food}God wanted certain people to pay tithes bringing foods to the Levite priesthood back then-every year at least 23% of these foods were given, paying tithes wasn't for everybody-Not even Jesus paid tithes, and Jesus went to heaven. Number 4>Everybody who have committed themselves to tithe, then you must tithe the way God had commanded you to tithe, bring all your foods into the storehouse-obeying these commandments would surely change the Church, their wouldn't be any room left for selfishness and Greed. Tithing wasn't put in place' so one could become rich. Matthew 6:24 "No-one can serve two masters-Either he will hate the one and love the other. You can not serve God and Mammon at the same time. Selfishness and greed. Number 5>1 Corinthians 9:16 "Neglecting to preach salvation to the sinners ![]() Lordgel: |
So your not sure If you are a Christian or not? STRANGE. urahara: |
Are you a Christian ![]() Lordgel: |
Neither can a thief who robs from the poor in tithes and offerings. Lordgel: |
Well I have news for you-once you become a Jehovah witnesses and baptised, they own you-they own everything you have, no-more freedom, your new families are JW's, you can't associate with the outside world, your family and friends you once knew, no-longer exist. Your finances, homes, lands, and businesses, all belongs to the watchtower organization. Without asking the church has full access to your bank accounts, plus the volunteers of donations they retrieve from each of you. Who's buying the private jets and the fancy mega homes now, without asking. Re: Will I Be Making A Mistake By Becoming A Jehovah's Witness? |
Russell was a 33 Rd degree Freemason, before and after he had started the Jehovah witnesses. Jesus said you can not serve two masters you will either hate the one and love the other, Russell served as masons are trained to serve.. Josh090: |
Look up in the JW's bible Acts 8:37? Josh090: |
Quote? The JW's also believe the Father the Son and the Holy ghost are 3 different people-just the way you were taught? Firstly> As counted, Jesus came into this world as one man. Secondly>God's Spirit is love, He is light, He is the glory that shines in the darkness, He is the light of this world, and yet no-one had seen God at any time? Jesus said: if you have seen Me you have seen the Father. Jesus still stands as one man. Thirdly>Jesus also said after He leaves He will send us another comforter. And had you notice-it's the Holy Spirit who utters to our spirits in each of us' in Spirit and in truth, that Jesus Christ is Lord. The Hebrew word of Spirit is often translated as wind or breath, and God formed man out of dust from the ground, and breathed unto him the breath of life' the man then became a living soul. Jesus also claims he is the bread of life, the light of the world. So if the Spirit is the breath of life-then the Spirit is Christ, both are one the same, all in all. Luke 1:34-35 "And Mary said to the angel, How will this be since I am a virgin, And the angel answered her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the most high will over shadow you, therefore the child to be born, will be called Holy the Son of God. 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is the Spirit-and where is the Spirit of the Lord is' there is liberty. So if the comforter is Jesus in Spirit as the bible says>then it proves their was only one man, Not 3 different people. robert1954: |
The sad thing about this story is once you become a Jehovah witness your body belongs the them-you actually sign a contract-once you become baptised you belong to the watchtower, meaning everything you have, finances. homes, lands, businesses, everything now belongs to the church. But it seems-YOUR FLESH AND BLOOD IS WORTHLESS? The Watchtower don't seem to care-ABOUT THE LIFE OF THEIR OWN. The Watchtower have used Acts 15 as a glide line to manipulate, all believers belonging to their kingdom. This is what Acts says> Act 15:20 "Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood. It is clear' the scripture has nothing to do with blood transfusion. Blood transfusions weren't even possible in bible times. Back in those day's it was pagan religious practices that involved eating and drinking blood, strangling animals to keep more of its blood in the meat. This is what the bible is speaking against. NOT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS. Its a Christian's duty to help those in need, given all what we have to retrieve our goals, even if it does mean a blood transfusion. Remember we may have that same blood group, people need most. Wrong teaching's can and will destroy life's. Instead of helping save a life, the church destroyed one. |
We need to understand people' the JW's bible isn't the same as the bible we read. Mainly because of some bright spark Charles Russell a 33 Rd Freemason discovered a new way to rewrite the bible. Russell started up a church calling himself a Jehovah witness, which he believed was the true church of Christ-this is what he is telling his followers anyway. Russell wanted to change history, he couldn't accept the truth about Jesus, so he continualed to misquote scriptures from the bible, the Freemasons plans are to change the world, as we know it. Russell and his colleges coursed confusion across the globe-and of course the spirit of Freemasonry led many of his new followers to believe. Russell couldn't settle with only one master. Matthew 6:24 "No-one can serve two masters, he will either hate the one or love the other. SOMEONE TOLD ME IF YOU KNOW HOW TO SPEAK A GOOD YARN, PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IT. And sure enough millions did. There are many scriptures taken out of context Acts 8:37 "I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. When thinking about this issue, why did they? When we all know Jesus Christ is Lord. The JW's believe Jesus is the Arc angel Michael, who had become a man and later returned to God as a angel, the angel now sits in heaven on the right side of God, as Jesus. There are to many scriptures the JW's have taking out from the bible, which of course' problems have risen with other believers, this is why, between us all, we find so many confused miss quotes. |
I always find it funny when I hear certain religious groups claiming they are the one true Church-while the rest are just wasting time and effort... As we can see-some one is confused, preaching the gospel that Jesus Himself is preferring too, isn't the same as preaching from the watchtowers magazines, two different gospels. And of course you believe Jesus is the Arc Angel Michael. Again two different gospels. Really do you honestly believe-Jesus told you to preach His gospel, that not even you, believe? You may not celebrate holidays-nor celebrate birthdays, as others do. You have separated your children away from other children, lack of communications without choice-etc. What your not understanding is, fellowship brings people together from all walks of life-learning times, mealtimes-social times, playtimes, work times, God times, prayer times, bad times, good times. We are made in God's image-we need God-God uses us, like People need people. Christ gave us a commandment to love one another-seeing a child, a wife or even a husband giving or receiving, a gift, a hug, maybe a few words to say I love you. You may even receive it from a friend, a unsaved neighbour, Or maybe" you still received mail from a long lost friend, you once knew.. Where their is Love, the present of God works all in all. Its must be hard for you, to see your love ones missing out on these special events. It must be hard for you to see your child looking through a window watching other children play. It must be hard for you to lock your children away from family-friends they once knew. It must be hard for you to hear your children crying every night before they sleep. It must be hard for you to see your children frightened and lonely. It must be hard for you to see your child being bullied at school. It must be hard for you to see your child not celebrating birthdays-nor receiving gifts from you. It must be hard for you to turn your back' when your child, wife, husband needs you most. It must be hard for you-to read Colossians 2:16 "Let no-man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or inspect of a Holyday or of a new moon or of a Sabbath day. It must be hard for you to accept When Jesus Himself was born, shepherds arrived, later at the house wise men gave free gifts to Jesus and His family WHILE YOUR OWN CHILD RECEIVES NONE. Is this the gospel you want people to discover, separating yourselves from your own nesting's, away from your children, families and friends, you once knew? 1. Jesus instructed his followers to preach the gospel--> Unlike other churches who oly broadcast on TV or have their member go in packs on the streets distributing church invites, jehovahs witnesses are the only group of christians who still patiently o from house to house teaching people |
And what's your point? PrinceVictorE: |
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