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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:48am On Dec 29, 2015
Your Church doctrines has little back bone-but the truth of Christ still stands.
dmandy:
Fair enough,

You cannot teach what you know but you want to teach church doctrines that you know nothing about.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
How can anyone think-the way you think-the Catholic Church has very little to do with Christ, nor Peter in this matter. As counted we do have two different Peter's.
As the scriptures tell us in word Matthew 8:14 "When Jesus came into Peter's house, He saw Peter's mother in law lying in bed with a fever. So the disciple Peter we know" had a wife. Was she' even mentioned, in your doctrines? I suppose not. And she would have played a big part in Peter's life, back then.
Listen I am not Catholic, plus I couldn't preach your doctrine if I were, deep down, not only would I be lying to myself, but I will be lying to the world. Christ is not mocked.
The Catholic Church started of paganism, and still' on this day-you are still bowing down to these same idols, on the video the Church sings to Lucifer, as their god
dmandy has already informed me with this Quote>She/he worships the Mary that's written in the bible, she/he is' one of yours, and with him/her kind heart either way spoke the truth. Is he/she right.
You have laid your foundations down under the banner of {brick and mortar} the Catholic Church, Not the people Church the disciples had led for Christ. You are baptised under that same banner of the Catholic Church.
Mark 16:15 "Go into the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Meaning go out and preach the truth about Christ. It doesn't say we must preach another doctrine, the doctrine of Mary-and the rosary's.
Did you watch your video, or did you ignore it? Still trying to convince the world-that this isn't happening within the Catholic Church.
Matthew 28:19 "This scripture say's baptise them with the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.
But you are baptising babies who have no understanding what this verse is about.
Phil 1:12 "Laying down your life for Christ is one thing-but laying down your lives for Mary is another.
Acts 5:12 "And through the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. And they all with one accord in Soloman's porch. Meaning they all believed God is real.
It shows your not listening-you didn't watch the video-of course-you don't believe the churches have shifted slightly backwards, falling into the darkest moments of this age.
Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood-but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the power of the dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

Syncan:
I keep asking you to think, but obviously you're not gonna do that. Protestantism started in the 16th Century, around 1507 actually. By then, Christianity has been on earth for about one thousand five hundred years. Spread by Catholics throughout the earth, at a time, Catholics who honored Mary,worked hard and compiled a bible to help the Catholic Church teach one faith, one Lord and one baptism. From the time the Catholic church canonized (authenticated as scripture) these set of books (out of the many being used in various places) to the time of the Protestant revolt, was about one thousand two hundred years. Through out these years, the Catholic Church nurtured by her mother, the ever blessed virgin Mary, preached the gospel to all nations Mk.16:15, baptized peoples Matt.28:19,laid their lives down for Christ Phill.1:21, and God showing his presence, wrought numerous miracles through them Acts.5:12. For one thousand five hundred years the Catholic Church withstood the gates of hell, till it was "end time" when the Protestantism dragon appeared, to cast a third of the "stars" down Rev.12:4.. Now Cast down stars are telling the rest up the skies that earth is better. Think brocab, think. God bless you as you do.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Of course you would go to your defence of claiming, I think I am better then any other born again Christians, I am a believer, like any other.
Like always you Catholic's have lined me up' what other born again's say and do.
You seem to believe when one protestant is out of line-the rest follow. We could say that about the Catholic Church, "couldn't we.

Why don't you open up your own eye's, and start seeing for yourself, the changers that's happening inside all churches, men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth-who suppose the godliness is a source to financial gain.
The net's covered with stories-pick and choose Yes I have found fault even in the pentecostal Churches. Preachers preaching against the word of God-worshipping the cash-more then God. The bible say's you can't worship Mammon and God at the same time, you will either hate the one and love the other. By their fruits you will know them. From such withdraw yourselves.
But of course I have listened to the Catholic's, this sort of behaviour doesn't happen inside your Church-as you believe your Church is the perfect Church, you seem to only find the faults with other protestants, but you can't seem to find fault within.
Hypocrite, first pull the plank out of your own eye, before you pull the plank out of your brothers eye.
As you say, your teaching are the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, Does this make you a superhero-teaching others another doctrine which is against the word of God. You already know the truth, and you know its wrong to teach. not the truth, you are ignoring the facts about Christ Himself, As we all know the net' around the world, are showing facts about the hidden truths, the in's and out's of other religions and why? Lets watch this video live and see the other doctrine that's preached within the Catholic Church, and lets experience together who they truly worship, instead of the God we all know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M
Is it right for you to worship another? No" theirs only One God-One Lord and One Holy Spirit. No Mary.
Syncan:
Our Jesus and His Mother Mary are not in any competition. There's nothing like "people like you", My teachings are the teachings of the one Holy Catholic Church. The same one whose princes and theologians Compiled and Canonized the Bible, the one whose glorious sons and daughters shed their blood through out the persecution of the early heathens of Roman Empire and the Bavarian (you may google catacombs). The one voice that continues to defend morality in our modern times. The one whose adherence to Christ words of "love thy neighbor" makes her the greatest charitable organisation the world has ever witnessed. The one Church whose teachings and indeed acts are not based on one man's dreams, another's lascivious desires nor someone's greed. The greatest spreader of the good news to the world through out history, conquering heathen territories, converting nations, and winning souls for Christ. The church that has withstood the gates of hell for about two thousand (2000) years and still stands as promised in Matt.16:18. The Church that is proud of and exalts her Children who are saints , yet is not afraid to acknowledge, instruct, love and pray for her children who are sinners. That's the church we're talking about, the Church, the pillar and foundation of truth. 1Tim.3:15. Praise God!


Now you condemn other "born again" as following the words of man, while you are the one with enough experience to follow God's word, yet you called all of you "born again" earlier. Confusion! What makes you more born again than them? Why do you think the "born again" who observes Sabbath day as Saturday is following the words of man as against the one who observes Sunday, one says masturbation is not sin and another says it's sin, yet they are both "born again" led by the "spirit". One says women should not preach in churches, the other says women should preach, yet it all comes from the "spirit". Think brocab, think. One fold, One shepherd, One faith, One baptism, one one one! That's the way of our God, not this Chaos in Protestantism.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by brocab: 3:30pm On Dec 28, 2015
Quote>What do angels look like?
Of course you may-not be interested what I have to say but hey-you won't believe it-I actually seen a angel in my dream-he stood 15-20 foot high at least, huge. He had a book in his hands-writing something down, I did speak to him-but bro-it was like he was standing in front of me in person.
Angels can come in all sizes-the one I seen was huge-and he looked like a man, but in a larger form without flesh.
lepasharon:
What do angels look like?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
And Paul is right by their fruits we do know them.
And I do know what I am talking about, Mary can't help you-only Jesus can-Mary can't take you into heaven-only Jesus can-Mary can't lay her hands on anybody for healing-only Jesus can, she can't rise the dead-only Jesus can, she isn't your co-mediator, Jesus is your mediator, she isn't your co-redeemer, Jesus is your redeemer. In the name of Jesus be healed. Amen.
Are you asking-or are you demanding?
Why don't you answer your questions? but this time tell it, as the bible had written it.
People like yourself, can only find mean less arguments, you talk about us Christians knocking your Church-and yet you go on a large mocking spree against us.
If you were a born again Christian, you wouldn't mix your doctrine together with the lords doctrine, this is how I know you aren't a born again Christian.
I have a question for you? why do you preach two different doctrines?
Don't you like the word of God, that you have to mix His words with yours?
I can only say-if people are listening, to preachers who are telling people to wear aprons or eating grass-what ever, then all I can say is, with the experiences I have with the lord, I know these people are not listening to God-but rather they have chosen to listen to man.
Like you when you produce two different doctrines.
You should look at your own Church, and find the many faults your Church believe in, lets start of, with the sexual abuse against children.
Was the Catholic Church listening to God-or were they listening to man?
Syncan:
brocab, long time. I am not going to go into back and forth journey with you, we've had our own fair share on this topic. However, Just from your post alone kindly contemplate the following:

If we are "Catholics" and you "born agains", what were the Christians that laid down their lives during the martyrdom of Rome, what were the Christians who compiled and cannonised the books of the bible, what were the Christians who spread the word of God to all parts of the earth, baptizing them and bringing them to Christ until the 16th Century of the protestants?

If you "born agains" are taught by the Holy Spirit, why are there so many teachings on same issues, why are there so much contradictory interpretations, which can only come from the author of confusion, why does one "born again" demand the wearing of apron and the other "born again"ask people to eat grass?

I agree with scripture when it says to enter the kingdom of God, one must be "born again". But how you became the judge of who is born again is what baffles me.

You say Mary can't do all those, and I say you don't know what you're talking about.

St. Paul's writing is clear, by their fruits we shall know them. Matt.7:16.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:25pm On Dec 28, 2015
You call yourself a Christian, and you are asking me how to teach?
Once you work out which doctrine you truly believe in-then you will know how to preach which doctrine clearly.

Revelation 3:15 "I know your deeds; you are neither cold or hot, how I wish you were one or the other.
You have showing us the evidence, time and time out, the Catholic Church is lukewarm-it is the Church who follows after another doctrine, mixing your doctrine with the doctrine of Christ.
dmandy:
You did not point out where I insulted you and rejected the word of God.

So how did the lord ask you to teach? Use an example of the trinity dogma, at least I know you believe that one.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 11:54am On Dec 28, 2015
Teaching the word is one thing, but teaching it the way the Lord had told us to teach it, is another, you either give our viewers the true meanings of each scripture-Or we could get ourselves confused and listen to the Catholic's tell their story how they think, the bible was supposed to sound.
1 John 2:21 "I do not write to you, because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because No lie comes from the truth.
dmandy:
You are sure I have abused you? Sorry if I have, but I still can't recall. I have not rejected anything you have told me about Christ. What was that exactly? No, that's being petty, the problem is that you still think we are arguing or quarrelling over something. I can't push any scripture away but what I am likely to push way is human interpretation of it.

I am not sure you read through our discussions, can you point out the bible verse he gave me which I rejected? Please you can do without the argument perception and rather see it as we teaching ourselves and others who are reading.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 11:34am On Dec 28, 2015
But you don't learn of us-you are more of the abuser type, you have rejected everything we have told you about Christ-we have pointed out the scriptures but you manage to push them away.
The fact is-you believe more about Mary, then you do about Christ.
So yes, it is an argument between you and vooks. He is given you bible verses, and you are rejecting them, just as quick.
dmandy:
That is the issue, you see it as argument. Arguments are meant to be won and lost whereas discussions are made that we may learn from one another. Don't shy away to lend your voice to the truth because it is not your argument.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 11:26am On Dec 28, 2015
No-worries
vooks:
I found you dealing with these Satanists and I thought to include you so you don't repeat the same things over. Bye
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
The problem is, you Catholic's and we born again's, see the bible differently, so what you see-doesn't mean we will see what you have seen, either way.
You may not accept what I am about to say-but the truth is, as a born again, not only do we learn about the scriptures-but we are taught the scriptures by the Holy Spirit, every time we are seeking His word.
So I don't know about you bro, until you become a born again-you won't see the kingdom of God-Jesus told Nicodemus one must be born again before he can enter in to the kingdom of God. And theirs no lie FOUND in the Lord.
Mary can't save you, Mary can't pray for you neither, Mary can't take you to heaven.
Mary can't deliver new souls to Christ. Her Spirit is with the Lord. Her flesh is in the ground.

St Paul is like us-he wasn't talking about his kind, he was talking about your kind refusing to believe.
Syncan:
Pay no heed to his rants, I have taught people far worse than him. He's been learning without appreciation and that's a problem ""It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs." Matt.15:26. When he is ready to purge himself of his perverse disposition, I will be here to teach him in a very explicit way. I'm sure all my brothers he's mentioned can enlighten him as well. However for now, Just note what St. Paul says about his kind.

1Tim.6:4 "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself".
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 10:51am On Dec 28, 2015
If you have an argument with dmandy why write my name on the bottom of the page, believe me brother, I am not Catholic.
I would be the one to back you in the word of God, not go against you. so leave my name out of from the Catholic list.
vooks:
This is not about who is more religious
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 10:46am On Dec 28, 2015
It's not my argument..
dmandy:
You are now confusing me @brocab. You don't agree with the vooks?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 10:40am On Dec 28, 2015
Leave me out of your argument vooks-I am no more religious then you are.
vooks:
Lolx grin cheesy
You are funny.
Questions for you;
1. How many inner gates does the temple have
2. How many outer gates does the temple have
3. Which gate was to remain shut as per Ezekiel 44:2-3
4. Which gate does Ezekiel 46:1-3 have in mind?
5. How does one tell the 'two eastern gates' apart?
6. Where/How does a gate become a sanctuary/court?

Cc brocab,KingEbukasblog,italo,ichiato,Syncan,Ayoku777,DiademSh07
Christianity EtcRe: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by brocab: 2:42am On Dec 28, 2015
The school buildings are not funded by the Church-every "Church" is funded by the government.
Having a Church-means its tax free, and if they were to build schools, then they would have to pay taxes, but because it's Government funded-its tax free. Same with everything the Church supplies-books, papers, uniforms, everything is tax free, it's only the supportive families who buy and pay taxes. Every Church is Government funded-don't forget the Church is supposed to be a house of prayer, not a house full of riches.

KingGBsky:
Preach the word of God among all nations, that is if we are called by God to do HIS work, but if not be good and cheerful and through you others will change. This is the main purpose Christ came to die for our sins in other to bring change to mankind so we can live in eternity in the kingdom of God. We can finance the Gospel of God as in the early church were people were tasked to bring belongings in other to propagate the work of God. Pasteors will task you for eventually everything, in tithing, they will task you, if they want to do anything in the church, they will task the members, if they want to open branches they will task the members, what pains me most is that they will even task the members to help them build schools the members children cannot attend. They treat the poor like rags and glorify the rich. Church today especially in Nigeria is a business organisation and not the gatthering of Gods people to propagate the things of the kingdom. This is one reason I like the Jehovah witnesses.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Quote>In infant baptism in the bible "No I can't see it, the way you see it.
It say's all who were the the household were baptised-Maid servants, men servants etc..nothing about infants. But if their were infants-Its seems the youngsters were at the age to decide for themselves, everyone in the house heard the word and believed.
I don't know how you believe otherwise, someone is playing the guessing game here.
We live by choice-baby infants don't have that choice-this is why Jesus said: to Nicodemus one must be born again, before he could enter into the kingdom of God-he said this, because Nicodemus was old enough to make up his own choices.
Jesus picked out 12 disciples {Men} who could make choices, not 12 infants.

Luke 1:42 "Sorry" nothing, written to say the rosary's are used in prayer, and nothing where it say's you pray to Mary-or even worship her?
I don't know how you read the scriptures, but I assure you, everything you Catholic's have pointed out, none reads the way you read it.
chassylite:
Take your time to read some chapters in the bible concerning these topic.

THE ROSARY IS A PRAYER IN HONOUR OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY ( LUKE 1:28 .....AND LUKE 1:42.....)

USE OF IMAGE AND SACRAMENTS (2Kings 13:20-21,Num;21:8-9,Ex 25:17-22, Col 1:20;1:14,Jon.12:32,Acts.19:11-12
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab:
Yes it clearly does say it, but it doesn't say its Mary, plus every earthly king has a wife.
Jesus is the king of kings-His bride is yet to come. Which is the Church-but not your Church building, it's the Church.
Ubenedictus:
but it clearly shows that the mother of the king is the queen mother, who sits with a crown by the king.
Christianity EtcRe: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by brocab:
Romans 13:1-7 "states, "Everyone must submit himself to the Governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist are established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do, will bring judgement on themselves.
We have to obey the laws of the land and In most countries-gambling is free and legal' by choice.
When the scriptures tells us to stay away from all the get rich plans, do we also stay away from people who are involved in these get rich systems
Does this mean we need to stay away from our Prosperity preachers and pastors? Collecting tithes and offerings, Gambling against the word of God.
1 Timothy 6:5 "Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of financial Gain.
From such withdraw yourselves.
Are these also playing these games-gambling with God, that they are willing to twist His word for their own personal Gains, large amounts of cash-and yet the government had also said it's legal-but God say's it's not. [/color]
Gombs:
Read bible, you no go gree. ;Dvo

Although the words "gambling" and "gamble" do not appear in the Bible, we cannot assume that an activity is not a sin simply because it is not mentioned.
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The Bible does not specifically condemn gambling, betting, or lottery. The Bible does warn us, however, to stay away from the love of money (1 Timothy 6:10;Hebrews 13:5). Scripture also encourages us to stay away from attempts to “get rich quick” (Proverbs 13:11;23:5;Ecclesiastes 5:10). Gambling most definitely is focused on the love of money and undeniably tempts people with the promise of quick and easy riches.

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/gambling-sin.html#ixzz3RA3uq56Q

OP, quit gambling...it breeds greed and hatred, desperation and frustration. Get a decent way of earning money, and pay your tithe accordingly. Forget the man above me, he's got issues you'd not understand in 3 years time.
Christianity EtcRe: See What This Girl Wore To Church And See The Pastor's Reaction On Facebook by brocab: 12:06am On Dec 27, 2015
She's not naked.
rangeblog:
Pastor Dee Franklin from St. Stephen Baptist Church in Houston posted this photo on her Facebook page of a woman that came to her church dressed like that. Was it okay for the pastor to post this tho?


> http://rangeblogz..com/2015/08/see-what-this-girl-wore-to-church-and.html
Christianity EtcRe: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by brocab: 10:30pm On Dec 26, 2015
The Levite priesthood were promised the first fruits offerings from God, Pastor's were promised nothing of the sort.
Matter of fact-our giving is now a freewill, so it's up to us, if we would like to support the pastor we can.
But if the pastor is using scriptures to back himself up-forcing people to give him their first fruits, then we know its not scriptural.

ndidibabe:
I was in church last sunday when the pastor preached about how important our first fruit is.He defined first fruit as your first earning immediately you get job/contract and subsequently your first earning every year.One thing that puzzles me is that he said this first fruit should be paid directly to your pastor and not the church and he backed it up with the scriptures at Ezikiel 44:30.I am not here to condemn any pastor but want to be enlightened on this.Tx
Christianity EtcRe: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab: 10:14pm On Dec 26, 2015
If no-one winches, how will the messages get out-anybody who had involved themselves-using the word of God as a tool to gain financial Gain, from others-is a leader in business.
kunlenkirol:
wink If you are not giving your first fruit, don't mock pastors who collect it. Giving first fruit is between you and your God but don't condemn any pastor that collects it. Search the scripture and if you are convinced, give it out.
Christianity EtcRe: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab: 10:08pm On Dec 26, 2015
Becoming a Christian-I am blessed-learning the word of God-I am blessed-writing the word of God to you-I am blessed-studying the word of God-I am blessed.
Giving and receiving-I am blessed.
Matthew 6:33 "Jesus said: first seek the kingdom of God and all things shall be added to you.
And no tithes mentioned.
darepoju:
I got ur point sir,

good morning.. how's Gods work and ur family...

wish u a nice week...
Christianity EtcRe: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab:
It is not biblical to pay tithes any longer. Plus the tithing system they have today isn't scriptural.
Tithing was used to feed the Levite priesthood who worked in the temple with Aaron-also it was to feed the poor, bring all you tithes and offerings into the store house, so My people will be fed.
Tithing was never about the 10% weekly wage This idea came from men with greed, men twisting the word of God.
1 Timothy 6:5 "Men of corrupted minds destitute of the truth, who think that godliness is a source to collect financial Gain. From such withdraw yourselves.
So the scriptures have told us clearly-don't get yourselves caught up with these lying wonders.
They were having trouble with the tithing system back then. Jesus had to change that old covenant, giving us a freewill.
Before it was law-the law was only given to certain Jews, farmers, stock men, herds men, merchants' they were the only ones that paid tithes.
Jesus never taught on the tithing system, nor did He pay Himself. Matter of fact, He didn't like the way man had destroyed it.
Man had changed the tithing system, selling the yearly merchandise, and this is what happened when Jesus entered into the temple.
Matthew 21:12-13 "Jesus entered the temple courts, and drove out all who were buying and selling, He over turned the tables and the money changers, and the benches of those selling doves. And He said to them it is written, MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED THE HOUSE OF PRAYER but you are making it to a Robbers Den.
Matthew 6:26 "Look at the birds of the air, they do not sow or reap, nor store away into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you much more valuable then that.
So you see, the churches don't look after us-God does, He see's our needs before we pray-so why pay into a church-when we all know-they would rather see the hungry go without?
Buying private Jets, and Mega churches-homes don't feed the hungry. Our everyday churches, are full of men, of corrupt minds destitute of the truth-who suppose that godliness is the means of financial Gain, selling and buying their merchandise, books C/D's, DVD's-foods, hot and cold drinks, to their own people.
While the hungry stay outside, still hungry. And yet tithing was used back then to feed the hungry yearly-the hungry were no longer hungry.
The Churches have twisted the word of God, If the Churches reacted-without receiving the cash, and put all their belief's in God, instead of themselves, just think even Africa would live.
clevvermind:
are u saying it is not biblical to pay it?
Christianity EtcRe: Top Ten Signs That You Are A Christian. by brocab: 10:35pm On Dec 25, 2015
Its funny when I hear God doesn't exist-yet the bible talks about how God is love and at the beginning of time-when man was made-God said, He had made us all' in His image. Just believe it. who else is out their-surely you don't believe we came from the big bang-did the big bang give us life? Usually when I hear about any big bang-it kills.
The truth is' everyone has the essence of love within.
So if God didn't exist, nor shall we exist.
Who created love "God" Who created God "love"
Shout "there is God" from now till 2014, it wont change anything. Your christian God does not exist.
Christianity EtcRe: Top Ten Signs That You Are A Christian. by brocab:
There is no such thing one being an ex-Christian, if you really knew the bible you wouldn't have walked away from God.
And you wouldn't have chosen yourself to be an atheist, once again.

So how can you say you know the bible better then others? To be honest, you know nothing.
When theirs no-one around and you believe you are about to die, who do the atheist call first-of course Mother help me, and when Mum isn't around, your second choice is God help me-save me.
We Christians have heard all these stories before, don't forget many of us were once atheist.
I'm an ex-christian atheist and you're a christian.


That is enough proof that I know the bible more than you. If you have properly read the bible, you would know that the christian God can not exist without serious contradictions/paradoxes.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by brocab:
It took 2000 years only because the Roman Catholic Church refuses to spread the word of God-only because they didn't want the world to know the truth about Christ.
It wasn't the Catholic's that allowed us to understand the bible, it was men and women who had risk their lives, torched and murdered by the Catholic Church, they were the modern day disciples spreading the word of God out into the open, so all man kind can enjoy God's true blessings He had installed for us.
The Catholic Church couldn't worship their pagan god's, while the people wanted to know more about the truth.
The Catholic Church went into great lengths to destroy the word becoming world wide.
I remember in the late 50's early 60's the Catholic Church would only have the bible written in Latin, so a very small few could understand it's meaning.
Pope Francis is calling all Churches to reunite back to the Catholic Church, only because he wants the world to become Catholic, you refuse, you die.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray THROUGH Saints by brocab:
I am a saint would you pray to me-like the disciples I am a Christian too.
All do I have to wait until I have past away?
I had travelled to the Philippines, a Catholic country, and I myself had seen the Catholic's go to the cemetery's to pray to their dead love ones, crowds of families, are meeting in one place once a year, bringing foods, drinks, and their golden candle sticks, plates etc.. the Chinese really show a great performance-when dealing with their dead, they bring in their riches.
I had seen them sitting around the grave sites talking to the dead, a caravel is set up inside the cemetery, so the children can enjoy more of their day. Before leaving the cemetery the families leave everything behind praying their dead love ones will feed of the gifts given to them.
But what really happens the hungry people who live in the cemetery end up feeding themselves.
After the families leave the cemetery, later that night the children are ready to celebrate Halloween, another sign of worshipping the dead.
This happens all over the world-Catholic's praying to their dead saints-paying cash to the priest so their dead love ones, may get out of purgatory sooner.
This happens in the Vatican-they pray to the dead-And Jesus did say, let the dead bury the dead.
joseph1832:
Jesus already said it: "I am the way the truth and the life no one cometh to the father except through me".

So catholics praying through saints is just their way of doing what they know how to do: "alter christian belief".
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe in Being Born Again? by brocab:
You need to stick with the Roman Catholic Church. Who knows nothing about one being born again. If they did-well they don't practice it, they are still baptising babies.
To be born again we must do it by choice-this is what Jesus was preferring to when talking with Nicodemus, Jesus had left us His comforter, because He wanted us to learn-more about Him and His kingdom.
Now we cant do that without Him-can we?
Without the Holy Spirit-we end up following another doctrine-trying to confuse the world.
orisa37:
All ceremonies in the Roman Catholic system are designed, applied and practised to make you Born Again. Check them up. There are controversies everywhere in practically around every human endevours, so the Roman Catholic is no exception. Confirmation Ceremony, only, is the beginning of being Born Again in Anglicanism. Born Againism is controversial and polarized in Penticostal system. It is either they know too much about it or know nothing at all.
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe in Being Born Again? by brocab:
So you would rather listen to a 16 year old, who was taught by someone in a Sunday school every week, never really studied the bible himself, not even for those 12 months you were waiting to see him once again, because the 16 year old was to busy doing other things..
In the mean time you had read the bible 5 times over. Why 5 times, is it because you had dealt about what the young fellow had said-did you find what he had said?
Do you humble yourself to everyone who claims they know the bible-without any evidence.
I asked you a simple question and you had refused to give me the answers-so do I question the fact, that you are not speaking the truth.
You seem to be big noting yourself-that someone had thanked you-after writing your Quote-I seen Him/her as someone who is searching for the truth-and every bit of info was helpful to him/her.
So don't credit yourself-give the credit to God-you do believe you were writing the truth, "Don't you?
Below doesn't make any sense, Jesus spoke in parables, so people could understand His word, He spoke in away so the herds men, the farmers, the shepherds and the fisher men, the shock men, could understand. My sheep follow Me-Come follow Me and I will make you fishers of men He talked about the vineyards-the vines-everything He spoke about so they could understand.
The wisdom and the knowledge this man had from God, Had turned heads around, people would worship Him.

But not all the people, only because like the 16 year old-they were to busy doing other things.
Not just the 11 disciples were at pentecost-their were many more believers who were made into disciples as well-all of them had received the Holy Spirit.
And it's this same Spirit travelling like the wind, till this day.
Not just a few' entered the kingdom of God-I don't understand you call yourself a believer' and you only believe just a small few entered into God's kingdom?
What do you honestly believe the disciples ended just after Jesus was crucified, No they worked harder and past on His message.

The gospel was written-and their preaching was stronger-the word of God was spreading throughout the regions. They were pulling in the crowds like Jesus did. If the people didn't know what Jesus was talking about, the crowds would have stop coming. They were still coming after Jesus, it's the word of God that drew the people in, like fishermen catching the fish.
The disciples learned as they went along-they asked questions and Jesus gave them the answers, before and after Jesus's death-if it wasn't Jesus teaching them-it was the Holy Spirit the comforter-this is how the scriptures were written-before and after.
paxonel:
lol
i won't repeat myself all over again,
you notice someone liked and complemented my post that it relief him or her .
That means the fellow has been reading his or her Bible diligently without any influence of sentiments born of personal beliefs as if he or she know nothing, abandoning all what he or she has heard before, facing the Scripture squarely for it curriculum
This shows that some people are understanding what i'm driving at while you are not getting a clue.
It is normal.
little wounder, out of the vast jews in jesus time,few people understood Jesus parables and the mystery of God's kingdom while the vast majority including the scribes and Pharisees where lost. consequently, few people entered the kingdom.
Infact you and I are already in that kingdom by grace not by what we know .
so, whether you understand me or not it does not change anything
i rest my case here .
lol
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 12:04am On Dec 25, 2015
Why Catholic's pray through Mary? Because they can't find Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe In Prophecy, Tongues & The Holy Spirit? by brocab: 12:01am On Dec 25, 2015
It's impossible you speak in tongues-Catholic's don't believe in one becoming a born again, after the disciples received the Holy Spirit-they became born again, and it was the Spirit who gave them utterance to speak in other tongues.
Are you a Catholic? So it is not surprising then that you haven't heard them speak in tongue, prophecy and preach about the Holy Spirit.
Anyways, it's not about what you have heard or not heard but about we they do.
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe in Being Born Again? by brocab:
The importance of receiving the Holy Spirit and why Jesus had sent His comforter.
Elisabeth and Mary were at the same time, both filled with the Holy Spirit.
First John the baptise-then Jesus arrived.
Both men were filled with the Holy Spirit-born with the Holy Spirit-walked with the Holy Spirit-working their ministry's with the Holy Spirit.
Mark 1:2 "As it is written in Isaiah the prophet, I will send My messenger a head of you, to prepare your way.
John was known as the messenger. Jesus was known as the Christ.
After John had baptised Jesus He seen something like a dove above His head-hearing the voice of God, saying behold this is My Son.
This proves the Holy Spirit moves like the wind. His everywhere.
Aaron would meet the Holy Spirit once every year in His chambers behind the veil, for the people's sins and repentance.
This same Spirit spoke through Peter, saying you are the Son of the living God. Jesus said: this did not come from Fresh and blood, but from My Father in Heaven.
So we can see the importance why we need the Holy Spirit. No-one understands the bible without having the Holy Spirit-guiding them, step by step. The bible was written Spirituality-and it's the Spirit {Comforter} that teaches us the scriptures.
This is why we must be born again-so we can share the same Holy Spirit Jesus and John had with them while they were doing their ministry's.
The Spirit is important, Jesus and John were born with the Holy Spirit-this is why Jesus said to Nicodemus one must be born again, before they can enter into the kingdom of God.
Remember Jesus and John were "born" with the Holy Spirit-the Holy Spirit guided them both, teaching them both as they grew. At 12 years of age, Jesus was preaching to the Pharisees, it was the Holy Spirit that leap in Elisabeth's womb-it was the Holy Spirit that told John behold this is the lamb of God.
Christ gave us His comforter, the same comforter He gave to His disciples-this is why we need to be born again, Like Jesus He was born with the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit was already with Jesus and John when they were in the wombs-when God had planted His seed, the Holy Spirit had entered both women.
The Holy Spirit is needed so we can be taught like the disciples were taught-back then, It's the Spirit that leads us to the word of God. Its the Spirit that told the disciples how to write the scriptures, as God had planned it will.
This is the importance why one must be born again. Born from above.
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Believe in Being Born Again? by brocab: 5:13pm On Dec 24, 2015
So what did the boy tell you-and what did you find?
paxonel:
look,
i have not said all i have said to contest IQ with you or anybody ok.
I'm pointing out some hidden facts of the Bible to you may be you didn't see it the way i saw it, and i don't expect you to grab everything at once.
I'm expecting you to read my post, go back to your Bible and cross check it again.
i told you a 16 years old boy first pointed it to me, that was in 2012. i was 19 then.
i never told him he is trying to prove he has a higher IQ than me. Instead, i humbled myself and go back to my Bible and cross check, it took me another one year to arive at what the boy saw, that was after i went through the new testament from Matthew to revelation on and on like 5 times repeatedly.
The next time i saw him he told me he didn't read through the new testament once, infact he never had time, But he was thought in Sunday school series of classes.
That means, if i had someone to teach me i wouldn't have gone through the stress of reading through the new testament 5 times repeatedly.

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