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So because I study word more then most days, I will pray the bible to support you all in Jesus name. No date fixed, just everyday as I read, I will ask the Lord, to bless the Catholic's with the truth in Christ..

Ubenedictus:
follow the discussions dear,

each person is supposed to pick a date on that date he will state his own prayer intention and propose a psalm with which all may use in praying for him.

It isn't about reading the psalms, we catholics do not just read psalms as a book of the bible, we actually pray the psalms.

You always believe you are above-while many are below-little knowledge or not, still more then you. God is proven, Like a child-Atheists need the right sources to help them find their faith, and like a child one must find within themselves "love" before making that final leap to Glory. Praise the Lord.

KoloOyinbo:
You have a point here?

If God could be PROVEN there would be no Atheists and no Agnostics. Nor would be be saved by FAITH.

Like I said, you know little of Christianity.

You are direct on your come back with a answer>Then how about letting me know about the secrets society Church you belong too, and then maybe I would know a little thing or two about you.
And besides God don't put curses on no-man. Jesus said repent, and one must be born again and baptised in the Holy Spirit, without that you have no chance going to the Father in heaven without Jesus leading your way. Jesus is Salvation. Not some Mother ship, as you call it the last ship..

olawalepopoola:
Please if you do not the origin and history of this church, do not place a curse on yourself! God has already place a curse on the haters of this church! It is the last ship for salvation!

What is the purpose in your praying, what would you like me to ask the Lord for you.
Psalms 51 I can read out. In my belief's in God, we asked what people would like us to pray for them in prayer?

Ubenedictus:
follow the discussion,

psalms will be prayed.

Greek and Latin was the language the Romans spoke. It was Tyndale who had re-written the bible from old testament Hebrew from Roman Latin to English way back in 1528-29's AD-after burning Tyndale to the steak the Catholic Church had refuse to accept Tyndale's request, hiding the truth away from God's people for more centuries, while the Catholic's spoke the word of God in Latin to about 40-50 years ago.

Christianity was born in Israel, Jesus and His disciples spoke in the Aramaic language, close to the Hebrew language. They say most books were written in Greek, leaving a Question mark? And the Roman Catholic's preached in Latin, and as I have read, it was Pope Francis who want's to introduce Latin back in the Church once again. Another merry go around, for the unfortunate to never truly know any truths about our Lord and savour.
I wonder if they will bring back the old burning to the steak law, if anyone teaches, or even read the bible, we will die that horrible death, the disciples died.

Mr KoloOyinbo I just wanted to share the good news with you-It's been to long without communicating and it's always good when a brother in Christ writes or speaks about God. Do you feel it, do you feel the comfort of God around your life.

KoloOyinbo:
As you don't say anything sensible or even have the slightest understanding of Christianity except to spout bigoted hate filled rubbish you are VERY EASY TO FORGET! (And the sooner the better )

The Church of Christ is that the Mormons? Who is the Prophet S.B.J Oshoffa, and what's the word for today, will you share the good news to us?

olawalepopoola:
Celestial Church of Christ was founded in 1947 in a revelation given to Prophet S.B.J. Oshoffa. Before I joined white garment church, I generally believed they were diabolic, although I do not hate them. As Africans we have our peculiar problems that affects us from both our mother's and father's house! However when the peculiar problems of my own father's side started affecting my journey up to the point of passing from this world!, I had to seek the face of God in the white garment church! This is my second year in this church and I now appreciate why some of their adherent members are really well to do. These are some of them:
1. God reveals secrets to members before hand: in this church there are prophets who God uses as it mouth piece to the congregation. These set of prophets have different categories: dreamers, prophets etc. Every thursday of the week, a prayer service is conducted for these prophets so that they can be renewed! A prophet in Celestial doesn't joke with this service. As in other churches, there are defaulters of rules and ethics, Celestial have some fake prophets that are not been used by God!
2. Wednesday Mercy Service: this is one of the most important service we do not joke with in Celestial. This service was mandated for the founder. It is in this service we invoke God's blessing and mercy on our work and business. Those that frequently attend this service never lacks.
3. Service of Power: This holds on fridays. Expect a Celestian member that doesn't obey and follow the tenets of the church, they are scarcely defeated spiritually. This is because the divine protection of God is always invoked specially on this day.
4. New Moon Service: This is an important service that God himself told Israelites to carry out! In Celestial Church, every first thursday is assigned to this service. In this service, we put our ways before God for the whole months.
5. Annual Harvest: this one of the surest way of invoking blessings in this church. Actively participating during the harvest means a lot to a celestian that is in his right senses
6. Tithe: this also an important aspect of blessing! In Celestial church, our tithes and offerings are important. The tithe is always before God day and night for each month.

You say we all need to obey God's laws and you believe paying tithes is that law to obey?
Your understanding of Matthew 23:23 is not clear to you, you are paying your tithes, in ways' you are disobeying the word of God, you haven't followed up in word, how God wanted his own people to pay tithes back then?

Half cocked in word you haven't finish the chapter of Matthew 23, Jesus didn't have one kind word to say to the Pharisees.
And verse 23 Jesus spoke only of herbs the Pharisees tithed.
Not fast cash.

Jesus came to full fill the laws, from what was a tithe of food products, He now say's give, which can mean more or less of anything.
Jesus said: what's on your heart, give, Jesus loves a cheerful giver, the law was used as our tutor, to bring us closer to Jesus, we are not under the curse of that law no more, Jesus is our way.
Jesus is our High priest, and not one scripture you could find where Jesus had taking tithes or paid tithes, in Money, other then a tax.
Cursed is anybody who are under the law, from what was a law, Jesus gave us freewill giving..

Listen no-one is having ago at you, it takes a little training to study the word of God, Jesus says the truth will set you free.

Quote you say>Your tithe to God can never be a waste, it will be used for the House of God and the gospel?
Well those words would sound great if they were true? But we all know where your money go's, and very little is used in the kingdom of God.

enilove:
@ayoku

Did you not read what Jesus said in Matthew 23:23.? Do you know more than Jesus Himself.

Jesus said ( not me ) that he has not come to abolish the law in Matt 5:17....

A woman with an issue of blood is not bound to follow what the law of Moses required because the Blood of Jesus is purer than that of dove etc required for the cleansing in the old testament.

Don't you think you will be going against the direct word of God by saying tithe is no longer necessary ,since you cannot read where it is written in the new testament that it is no longer required of us to pay.
Jesus also said that it is necessary that the Pharisees should pay tithe . Is that not in your Bible?


It is wise to pay tithe instead of waiting till death to discover that you have disobeyed God.
Everything we do have repercussions. If you give to people you will reap. Your tithe to God can never be a waste. It will be used for the house of God and the gospel.

It is better to be on a safe side than to argue and assume when one is not sure.

Big words from a little man, I hope you had finely learnt something, God exist. That's right God is Love, now act as a good little Christian and tell this truth to the world, God exist' and living. Stop confusing people with your rubbish-your a Christian and Christians don't lead people up the wrong path..

Amen...

KoloOyinbo:
As you don't say anything sensible or even have the slightest understanding of Christianity except to spout bigoted hate filled rubbish you are VERY EASY TO FORGET! (And the sooner the better )

yeah and na, because I am not Catholic, I don't understand how one pray's the Rosary, and I am just wondering are we praying to God or the Rosary's ? So yes I am a bit confuse, but can I be any assistance to support your prayer session? And would it matter if I am from another denomination.

Rich4god:
hmmmm.... Are you actually following the write ups or u go jst fall in, comment anything wey u like...

"The big No" Christians don't have to tithe, It's another business lie, away to earn quick cash, another scam put in place to rip off God's people.

The Lord has given us warning about such preachers or pastors who have chosen the Highways, 1 Timothy 6:3-5 gives us a clear version, about these crimes...
People who agree with these wolves in sheep clothings, say tithing money was put in place today' because there wasn't enough money around back then?
I assure you, money was flowing in those days, scriptures tells us how rich it really was. Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, if there wasn't any money back then, Caesar would have had everyone in prison for not paying there taxes..
Jesus talked about the money changers, He talked about the young Rich man, the disciples mentioned how the temple, stood in it's richness.
People brought stock and crops and merchandise, Judas, collected 30 pieces of silver while Jesus told him to give it the poor, later Judas sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.
From Greed to richness, had changed the Church, from loving each other, for the love of money. God says you can't love God and Mammon at the same time.
Tithing was never about fear, not then' and not now in this day and age. Listen people read up, seek the bible, ask the Lord because the truth will set you free.
When God made a law to tithe 'it was never about money, Malachi 3:10 bring all your tithes into the shore house so my people will be fed.

You are believing a lie, it was man who created this lie-read between the lines, don't allow the devil to over come you. It's not worth the risks.

If you believe you were meant to tithe, {which is not proven in scripture} then tithe the way God told the Jews to tithe, fill all the houses with food so all God's people will be fed.
Think of it, if everyone tithed God's way, how many staving countries do you believe there will be left. None...

While most will turn their life's back over to God 100 fold and counting.

Amen

The truth will set you free..

Snowwy:
@Joagbaje,
Your topic title and scripture do not seem to match.
Your opening scripture clearly states that Christ has abolished in His flesh the enmity, which is the:

'law of commandments CONTAINED in ordinances'

I would have assumed you would have explained what the enmity is and examples of such ordinances which caused the enmity.
I would like to read more on this from you, possibly you still have more to add.
There is actually a lot of history in that verse as Christ made in himself of two, one new man and made peace. Peace between who? Lots of questions to be answered to do justice to the OP scripture.

Are these the prayer dates, and you pray the Rosary, We don't have the Rosary, so what are you praying for, can I be any assistance to you all?

Kamsified:
Happy Sunday brethren

The dates that have been taken so far are as follows:

Syncan - May 12th
EggoviMma May 13th
Francistony May 17th
Vest May 19th
MarvelousGod May 20th
Rich4god May21st
Kamsified May 22nd
Chinelosa. May 22nd
Kizmarty May 22nd
Btoks May 24th
Woky May 25th
Aizenosa May 30th


Please note that the 10th, 11th, 14th,15th,16th,18th,23rd,26th,27th,28th and 29th are still available

God help us all as we prepare. Amen

Anybody who joins a group, is called a gang. Nothing bad about it.
Actually I was planning to travel soon over sea's, has anyone been to Australia, early next year my sister wants to fly me over to Thailand, has anybody been over there? I wouldn't mind some tips, if anyone knows any.

What do I have to do to pick a date?

Ubenedictus:
there is no gang here dear?


And since you don't seem to be going anywhere soon, pick a date.

You couldn't forget me that easy, because one tells a few truths about ones religion does not mean one hates Catholic's, so the greater fool is you, to even believe such rubbish-you say this argument is uneducated, of course it is to you Mr KoloOyinbo, the word of God frightens you. Having little knowledge in the word' as yourself, you show strong evidence who the true hater is, you would rather throw insults and abuse to those who are learning about God each day.
And that's a normal reaction from someone who has no understanding in any truth about God. Even the Atheist who aren't interested Mr KoloOyinbo act the same as you do..

You call yourself a Christian, Jesus has given us the truth, who God is-and God exist? A fool would say, no-one can prove such evidence. Is that you?
Well I am going to re-educate you, so when this Question is ever asked again, you can tell the truth that God does exist' and living in us all.
As it's written the first commandment the Lord had given us, is Love. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul, Where there's Love, God exist. God so loved the world that He gave His own begotten Son to save the world. No one has seen God at any time, because God is love.

You wouldn't know that, you fill your belly up with religious rubbish, there's not enough room for you, to even know' the true meanings of God.
For anybody who says they can't prove if God exist, either way, shows clearly he or she is not filled with the Holy Spirit, to even know the true meaning of love-and If you had the Spirit of God you would know' the love that's in you, shines out' so the world can see, God exist..
Even the atheist show love, love is spread across the nations.. God made man' so we can "all' share His love in Him, as He shares His love in as.
John 10:30 I and the Father are one, the Father of love and Jesus are one, which proves God does exist and living. God made lovers not haters-every man women and child are made in the image of God.
The truth lays within, {God is Love} Any body who believes God don't exist, is a lair, and the truth is not in them.

You need to study up on your computer history more often, From one language to another it was William Tydale and others had risk their own life's only to help save millions over the centuries, so the word of God can be preached in ones own languages around the world.
"Why would the larger's, oldest, Church standing would want to murder God's beloved people?
ANSWER>BECAUSE FOR CENTURIES IT'S BEEN THE CHURCH OF ROME WHO CONTROLS THE WORLD WITHOUT GOD..

The truth in the matter is, all those Churches that follow after Mother Church, the Church of Rome-need to turn from their sinful ways, repent and ask for, forgiveness, become a born again Christian, baptised in the Holy Spirit, and come follow after Christ.
I left you space so you can abuse me, after speaking again the word of God to you Mr KoloOyinbo.

KoloOyinbo:
If proof of God existed the bible would NOT mention FAITH as it would be irrelevant!

There is no proof he does not exist either and indeed CAN BE NO PROOF either way.

We have had this argument before MANY times.

Your lac of understanding of Christianity is pathetic as your futile uneducated arguments. And your many errors above (historical including William Tyndale and factual - Greek is not a Jewish Language and the New Testament was mostly in Greek. The reason for putting the Bible in Latin by the early Church was that the Latin language did not change as it was by then academic only. Same reason Science uses it today.

I think I remember you now. Are you the guy who believes in Youtube and Illuminati and hidden bunkers all over the world?

The Catholic hate and bigotry comes out yet again even to someone who is not Catholic (FOOL).

Their's only one KoloOyinbo who's believes his over the top in worldly knowledge. And besides there's to much evidence to prove others wise, that God don't exist.
Read up on the Spear of Destiny, the Holy lance-a book was written after proven evidence, that God does exist, that same Spear that pierce into Jesus side on the cross. Some say, the Germans or the Russians have the Holy lance hidden?

One may ask-why hide anything that belongs to the truth.
Look at the Roman Catholic Church they also committed that same crime, they hid the truth away from God's people for centuries.

See the word of God was written for all "God's creation, but the Catholic Church, had other idea's, they knew if people found the truth about Christ, they couldn't have the full control of the world's population any longer. That's why you have a Pope, he controls Rome and the world who follows after him.
The Church had committed this crime against God, this crime is beyond measure, Only God can forgive.

Since time begin, many of our men and women have now found the truth, and no-man has control over us any longer, only Jesus is our Lord and saviour.
And even to this day Pope Francis is calling all believers, from different dominations to become once again under a New World Religion.
Why the Church of Rome wants to be in full control again.

The Church changed what was a Jewish language, into a Latin version, so few could only understand, while many were still confused, the Catholic Church went through a lot of hidden trouble, if God didn't exist.

It was certain men and women, who had found the hidden secrets about the truth that God does exist, like in the 1500's AD William Tydale who was burnt to the steak by the Catholic Church, because he found the truth, he knew the Latin language and he had rewritten what was Latin to a English version so everyone could understand the truth about Christ.

All the apostles were murdered because of the truth, even the Roman Catholic Church had Emperor Nero to Crucify Peter {Who the Catholic Church declares He was the founder and their first Pope} he was murdered by crucifixion, up side down, after they decapitated the apostle Paul .
Why, because God exist.

Don't be confused-the evidence is everywhere "God exist, plenty of evidence if you know where to look. Most people start from the bible..

KoloOyinbo:
Yes I do. By FAITH. If you could prove God then it would invalidate FAITH. Have we not had this discussion before or am I confusing you with someone else?

Quote> God either exist OR does not exist.
KoloOyinbo you call yourself a Christian, do you believe God exist?

KoloOyinbo:
LOL. This play on words is not a argument and has been rejected by philosophers for millennia!

God either exists OR does not exist. This is independent of anything we say or don't say - both theist and atheist.

We cannot prove, we cannot disprove. Therefore EITHER case rests of FAITH.

Only the agnostic is justifiable as they say 'insufficient data'.

As for "You keep acting like God is a being independent from theists' claims" Yes that is exactly what theists believe He IS such a being. We cannot prove it or disprove it. - FAITH.

A lot of this is covered in basic philosophy works which you might find interesting. They do not side with either theist or atheist but look at the arguments for each point of view and why in thousands of year neither side has been proven (or is even provable).

Only the agnostic needs no disproof of God.

A theist needs proof that God exists (and fails hence resorts to FAITH [an unsupported belief])

An atheist needs proof that God does not exist (and fails hence resorts to another unsupported belief - FAITH)

Failure to prove existence does NOT prove NON existence. Either case is then possible.

Gee you do twist the word around>Quote-You are a born again so you can forgive sins of your deceived wife, or your non born again parents, which one?
You really don't understand the word of God, do you. I can Forgive my brother, I can tell him the good news about the Lord, and it's up to him to make his decision to believe in Christ. Christ who save souls.

And I don't believe you know what the word polite means, I have come to you all, writing the true meanings of bible scriptures, and I have received only abuse from you, without any of you showing the love of God in word and truth to back up your faery's.

You say I make to much noise, be polite and learn, but yet you haven't produced any bible teachings for me to learn, so I find my own way, in word and truth, and after I have written it , you all seem to rebuke me by mocking. cursing, and abusing me.
So how can one learn if you don't produce the evidence.

I had one Catholic say to me, we read two different bibles. well if we are all Christ like' than the word of God should be the same-It says in my King James in Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify to anyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If anyone adds to these things, God will add, V'19 and if anyone takes away from the words of this book of the prophecy, God shall take away his part from the book of life from the Holy city.
I know you all believe you have the longest standing Church building, on this planet. and yes I agree. Jesus as the chief corner stone.
But listen when Jesus was talking about building His temple, He wasn't talking about a building made by men. He is talking about the body, made by God.
So when we read the word of God, its head knowledge we receive, seeking the kingdom of God, so thief's can't break in a steal.
Not some Church building where thief's can break in and steal..

Step2002:
Illiterate! Why ask me to forgive you when you can forgive yourself? So who will retain sin? The person Jesus did not forgive abi? Whose sin will be retained? You are born again so you can forgive sins of your deceived wife, or your non born again parents, which one? What level of education did you even receive? You think people coming here to read are fellow dumb skulls, You have been pokenosing all the while here, yet you're just empty, making so much noise. Be polite and learn, the bible did not fall from sky into your laps, the race has been run for over 2000yrs.

Is this a yes Can I join your gang.
Just think, the Lord could use brocab as some kind of a spiritual leader, how cool would that be.
Brothers and sisters coming together, praying for each other and teaching each other in word and in truth.
I love you guys..

woky:
Odikwa egwu

Is that a yes

Rich4god:

Yes Jesus gave the disciples the authority after given them the Holy Spirit, and that's right anybody who honestly can say' either they come to repentance, or forgive those who sinned against them, works better having the Holy Spirit' who gives us strength, think of Jesus on the cross, filled with the Spirit, He couldn't possibly live those moments He suffered. Without the Spirit of God, could Jesus survive. Could He forgive.
Could you, you in the flesh, suffered as He did.

True forgiveness and true repentance comes only from God himself. And to have that' one must be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Any Atheist can say sorry and forgive, but without the lord's forgiveness, saying sorry and forgiving without believing in Christ won't get them to heaven...


How about the disciples, The first bishop of Rome "Peter was imprisoned, tortured and crucified in Rome under the Roman emperor Nero.
Can you forgive Nero for murdering your Pope Peter, crucifying him up side down, making a mockery, out of the Catholic Church.

Nero decapitated apostle Paul, it takes a lot of strength to overcome fear, near to happen. And Paul forgave them.
When I am walking through the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, it takes the Spirit of God, to give me those words.

John 20:21-23 clearly stated either Jesus had breathed on His disciples to receive the Holy Spirit, or he was letting them know it will soon happen on the day of pentecost. Acts 2.
He said in V'23 If you forgive the sins of any they are forgiven, and if you retain the sins of any they are retained.
Forgiveness is one of the key words of the Christian faith, without it, you wont see the kingdom of heaven.
Colossians 3:13, Bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do..
If I wasn't a believer in Christ, I couldn't speak about the word of God, let alone putting up with your bad mouths, you call yourselves Christians, and you pounce around, like, you are god, hypocrite I believe...
My wife has no say in this matter, but as smart as she is, she became a born again Christian, she had found the truth in Christ, how about your wife or husband, do you pity them too, do they follow after your faith-or do they have more sense following after the true faith in Christ.
That must be tarring your insides apart, knowing no-one close to you loves you. But it's ok, I am a Christian, and I love you as a Christian, same as Jesus loves you.

Step2002:
You can't even make a comprehensible sentence, yet so puffed up in pride you cannot see how blind you are. Jesus gave the disciples a mandate with authority, you are here saying they cannot do it without the Holy Spirit, is it in your name that they have been doing it? That's what you get from half baked individuals or dropouts. Retrace your step mr. I pity that wife of yours you have deceived from her faith, what agony she now lives in.

Can I join up with you all?

Rich4god:
Where is
Syncan
Ubenedictus
Italo
Peppyluv
Debbie and co...
Tomorrow, we dey start may devotion, make Una come give us modus operandi on how we go do our own for this thread....

Jnrbayano, syncan... Abeg mk Una call register..

And Step2002 and hurricane atheist are one the same, as yours..

Rich4god:
There is one in every thread....

You need pray-How wrong am I, and hears me thinking you maybe the one who had a bit of sense, sad, what a joke...Your just another dumb dumb who knows nothing about the word in truth of God..
Sad
What do they teach you? Everything other then the word of God.

Step2002:
Illiterate! Why ask me to forgive you when you can forgive yourself? So who will retain sin? The person Jesus did not forgive abi? Whose sin will be retained? You are born again so you can forgive sins of your deceived wife, or your non born again parents, which one? What level of education did you even receive? You think people coming here to read are fellow dumb skulls, You have been pokenosing all the while here, yet you're just empty, making so much noise. Be polite and learn, the bible did not fall from sky into your laps, the race has been run for over 2000yrs.

Am I really bugging you all? No wonder you are called hurricaneChris, with a disgusting name like that, no-one's interested...And besides everyone who loves the Lord will always be interested..

hurricaneChris:
This brocab is actually a troll.

It's disgusting!

Someone doesn't want to care about what you're saying, you are trying so hard to force it their throats. Na wa o

I need to rephrase that' I wrote Jesus did not give the disciples any authority to forgive sins, meaning to say without the Holy Spirit they have no authority to forgive sins. I ask for your forgiveness.
I find with some Catholic's they seem to say one sentence, but they don't finish any meaning of that sentence, you all seem to see the verse only written in black and white, {sounds like this-well it must be.} With us pentecostal's we look into the word deeper-{sounds} isn't enough we need to understand what the Lord is saying in word about any scripture.
Some Catholic's believe we twist the scriptures around to confuse others, it's not true, we are using God's word to the full. Myself I see a bigger picture.
I look into other scriptures matching John 20:19-23 and see what Jesus means by His statement.
The disciples had hidden themselves from the fear of the Jews, after Jesus death V' 20 When Jesus appeared to His disciples they were glad to see Him, Jesus said, peace be with you. V' 21 Jesus said as the Father has sent me I have also sent you. V' 22 And Jesus had said this He breathed on them and they received the Holy Spirit. V' 23 if you forgive sins of any they are forgiven them, and if you retain the sins of any they are retained."
It say's as it is-but as Jesus forgave me, "yes' I have the rights to forgive others who have sinned against me, like the disciples when they received the Holy Spirit. In Jesus name.
I don't need to find a priest to ask for my forgiveness-I myself can seek the Lord and ask Him direct, I am filled with the Holy Spirit, I am a believer in Christ, I am a born again Christian. If I wasn't filled with the Holy Spirit I couldn't forgive sins.

Jesus saves souls, Jesus forgives sins, He is my Lord and savour. Priest are only used for people who don't believe.
We as Christians who are part of the priesthood in Christ, only Jesus Is our high priest.
Seek Him today.

Step2002:
You talk too much but am not sure you even make sense to yourself. That simple passage kamsified just highlighted is what you are going round and round to confuse and convince yourself. Shame on you. You jumped into a thread meant for catholics and you're not a gossip, but when a catholic reacted to your post, the person became a gossip. Illiterate.

Since we are brothers, then why did you rebuke me? When or I was doing was reaching out to one lost believer, who couldn't understand, In Jesus's name you don't have to give your confessions to a priest, just ask the Lord today, tell Him your problems, ask for forgiveness, and as Jesus had promised He will forgive. Jesus save's your souls, not the priest.
We can argue about the true Church, and yes the Catholic's have a lot more history, but a unfair one at that, and it was the Catholic Church that kept the hidden secrets away from the people for centuries, using a language only few' not many could understand Latin.
From a Latin version of the bible, it was William Tyndale back in 1526 AD who had changed the Latin words into a English version, later" after the Catholic Church had arrested him he was burnt to the steak by the Church.

So now the word of God has been released from the imprisonment it was once in-thanks to a God given man such as William Tyndale who had risk his own life for the people, one man died for the nations, so now all man kind has the rights to know the secrets of the hidden bible, to be set free knowing the truth about God.
So you see' it don't matter who has the longest standing Church here on this planet, the point is, Quote-Jesus said one must be born again baptised in the Holy Spirit before entering into the kingdom of heaven.

btoks:
Yes the word 'catholic' means universal. However, this was used to denote the true church established by Jesus from the heretical groups of the day. In our day, you will agree that there are more groups(over 30,000) claiming they know the truth so it is even more pertinent that the word catholic is used appropriately. We noticed that your doctrine is different from what the catholic church teaches and since you have not proven you are the true church establised all those centuries ago, how do we accept your version of events. You are aware that Jesus prayed the we all be one. Nevertheless, we are brothers and we'll keep praying for you.

As to your arguement about priests and confession, will you say the same about baptism or preaching the gospel? God bless.

I was answering to Ubenedictus, and you involved yourself as gossips do.. And all scriptures line up with the other, and because you don't understand them don't get angry, just ask..

And I will pray for you, that the Lord will open your heart and you will find the truth as I have found the truth in Christ.

Well I am not here to cause anger between us, but I have come to write the truth about Christ.
Read all what I have written, not just some..
I am saying you can't forgive sins without Christ-John 20: 21-23, He said to His disciples As the Father had sent Me I also send you, get out there and preach the gospel,
Those who believe in Jesus their sins is already forgiven, we don't need to ask any priests to forgive our sins, We already believe Jesus has forgiven our sins, the disciples believed and their sins are forgiven, so if you decide to come to Christ, your sins are forgiven too. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven, which to say you can't forgive sin without the Holy Spirit, in Jesus name...
And if my brother sins against me 7 to 70 times a day, and if he asks for forgiveness, I can forgive him, as Christ has forgiven me.

With the different practices, the Catholic Church follows after, one must ask are the priest saved,, are they born again Christians, are you saved?

First the New Testament does not teach that there are certain priest to hear ones confession in the new covenant. Instead the New Testament teaches that all believers are priest.
1 Peter 2:5-9 Describes believers as a Holy priesthood and a royal priesthood. Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 both shows believers as kings and priests.
In the Old Covenant the faithful had to approach God through the priests. In those days The priest were mediators between the people and God. The priest also offered up sacrifices to God on behalf of the people.
This is no-longer necessary, because Jesus paid the price, He sacrifice Himself, and by doing this, we can now approach God's throne with boldness {Hebrews 4:16}.
So you don't have to go to any priest and give your confessions no-more, you are a priest, and you can enter into God's throne room in heaven, as much as you like..

Kamsified:
How else do I break this down bikonu?

Jesus(after resurrection) appeared to his disciples, showed them his hands n sides, and said to them 'as the father has sent me, so I'm sending you', he breathed on them and said 'receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive is forgiven and whose sin you retain is retained'
What views of mine will supersede the word of God again? I suggest you go back and read the part of your post I quoted and tell me what John 20:23 has to do with what you were explaining it to mean. That's why I was shocked cos I've seen u guys twist the scripture but this time, your explanation had no correlation at all with the scripture(u even quoted)

I'm still in shock as to how far you can go to deny the same God's word you claim to preach. Even though you quoted it, you end up denying that Jesus said it.

Like I said, read your post (the part I quoted before) and tell me who is making mockery of God's word.

But then Again we can only pray for u

So If the word of God is so wrong to you, maybe if you stop mocking the word of God-you can spell it out the way you believe how the word of God should be written.
Give me your view on John 20:23, followed by other scriptures to back it up.

Kamsified:
So after reading John 20:23, the above is what u made out of it? Wonders shall never end. Now I believe that End time is nearer than I thought.

It's amazing how far (some of) these Pentecostal guys would go to deny the same word they claim they're preaching

Like my brother btoks said, we can only pray for you.

Seriously, why do you call me brother, by what is written in this page, it shows clearly' you don't seem to believe in word or in truth, let alone by their fruits you will know them.
When you pray go into your secret room and ask the Father in heaven, why you have so much dislike's against your brother brocab?

Tell the Father, you believe brocab should show more respect on this page, and that the truth of this matter, the word of God shouldn't be preached, amongst us Catholic believers, because the poster was meant to support a Catholic member only, not by some random Christian who calls himself one.
Tell the Father in Heaven you are confused on the word Catholic meaning universal-that all believers in Christ are the same.
Which points me in the right direction, as being a Christian myself I am sharing the word of God to my brothers and sisters in truth and word on this page.
Christians in Christ are the same, have you got any rejections btoks.
I am supporting someone in need, As Jesus tells me to do in word and truth...

btoks:
Seriously brother, you're helping no one here with your futile interjections. I'm sure this has been mentioned before.The poster came on this thread to get a catholic answer not some random brocab answer. Please show some respect and consider opening another thread to do your preaching or air your views.
We'll keep praying for you. God bless.

I thought this page was for Christians, catholic means universal so if we all believe in Christ then we are the same.
So I write on this page because I believe.
Not because you all reject me, I am doing what the Lord tells me to do, go out into all the world and preach the gospel.
Luke 10:16, 'He who hears you, hears Me, he who rejects you, rejects Me, and he who rejects Me, rejects Him who sent Me.

The answer to John 20:21-23, Jesus tells His disciples "If you forgive anyone his sins they are forgiven, If you do not forgive anyone their sins their not forgiven.
"The very core in this message is the truth, for someone having their sins forgiven is by having faith in Jesus Christ.
In Acts 10:43-44, When Peter was sharing the gospel, he said "Everyone who believes in Him, receives forgiveness of sins through His name!

{No one can say your sins are forgiven you, without using Jesus name, I have been in a confession box in the Catholic Church, and never can I re-core any priest say, "In Jesus name your sins are forgiven.}

Luke 5:20 say's 'When Jesus saw their faith, He said; "Friend your sins are forgiven.
Colossians 2:13-14, say's Jesus forgave all our sins.

All the scriptures confirm that Jesus is the only one who forgives sin.

So what did Jesus really mean in John 20:23?
Only God can forgive sins and Christ being God has the power to forgive, but He never gave any authority to the disciples, nor did they confirm they had any power to forgive sins.

Acts 3:6 Peter said; Silver and Gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.
This scripture tells the apostle Peter couldn't do anything, without using Jesus name, if Peter tried healing this man in his own "strength', the man would still be crippled, theirs no power in Peter's name, no other name has any power, but Jesus's name alone has the power.

Peter didn't say your sins are forgiven.
After Jesus laying His hands to heal the sick He would say your sins are forgiven.

Luke 17:4, If your brother ask you to forgive him 7 to 70 times a day, forgive him.
I only can do that, because I believe.

"So we don't have to go to a earthly Church building and wait for a priest or pastor and ask for our forgiveness, Jesus being high priest of all' we can ask Jesus any time.

James 5:16, meaning we can confess our sins with one another, brothers and sisters in Christ. It don't mean we have to wait to see a priest and give our confession to him only.
Matthew 6:6 Jesus say's, "But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.

You don't have to wait to see any preachers-priests or pastors, seek God privately about your problems and sinful nature, don't wait until tomorrow seek the Lord today-I ask Him to forgive me, and I believe, He promised me He will never leave me, and I believe.
And I believe He is My Father, who will forgive all, as He had promised He would.

We don't need to wait, Just ask Him today-your sins-and my sins have been forgiven, as He had promised.

Ubenedictus:
did you miss John 20:21- 23 and James 5: 16 in your bible study?

Firstly in Christ you don't need to see any priest for confession, you just ask the Lord in prayer anywhere-and repent.
Secondly a priest has no power to forgive sins. Mark 2:10, "But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins..

Matthew 16:25 "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
Priest can't save your souls.
Romans 10:9-10, That if we confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart, that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. V's 10-For with the heart one believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation.
Only Jesus can save your soul.Only Jesus can hear your confessions.
Talk with Him today...

smoothpapuzy:
Please advice me.
On two occasions, I've met with priest to hear my confession but they told they were busy and I should come on the day of confession.
As a Catholic I learnt that a priest will hear your confession anywhere you are, anywhere,.
But right there in the church, I was turned down by two different priest.
What if I had died, whose head would my sins lay?
Should I have bluntly reminded them it was there duty to save souls at any point in time?...

Please advice me, I need to know how to curb this!

God has done everything for you-look at you, "still kicking", God made all sorts of men and women, all with brains, some small and Atheist, others medium and overly religious, and more to those, who use their heads, and seek after Christ, bugging Him every moment,' for more wisdom and knowledge, for food to feed the brain that's needed for our spiritual growth.
Matthew 6:33, "But seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Amen

yomi007k:
God won't do anything.
Stop bugging him- he already gave us a brain. He created us in his image n likeness, calling on him again is like saying he created a Fake creature.
USE UR HEAD.