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I tithed once because I was a sucker in believing in the lie.

dorox:
My point is that you cannot use the argument that tithing predates the law as a justification for tithing as you did in the last paragraph of you previous post.
Abraham tithed just once, so are you saying that christians should tithe only once like Abraham?
While it is true that some servants of God paid tithe before the Law was established, it was usually a one off payment like that of Abraham. The regular payment of tithe came with the establishment of the Law. So don't you think that it will make more sense that regular tithing would no longer be applicable to christians if the law that made tithing regular is annulled for christians?

Go back to your bible- stop reading fairy tales.

jdilight:
First you need to understand the need for tithing. Abraham tithed because God gave him victory, Jacob did the same because God took him to Laban and brought him back with more than he went with. They both gave tithe in appreciation of what God did for them not as obligation.

Now lets assume there was no levi and no law for tithing, will you appreciate God with your substance. If God has done something for you and you don't want to appreciate him no one punishes you for that.

I hear people say the law of tithe is not bidding on christian as if there is a law of tithe in the first place.

Are you Italos keeper? Or are you the sticky nose in the group?

He/she can't comment themselves.

justjify:
In Italos word

"Tell God your worries. Tell him how you selfishly
want a taller guy when he has already given you a
good man...and tell him your reason.
And tell him "thy will be done."
He is our Father and can grant your wish if he
wants...or he can show you that your wish is not good
for you."

You truly need to pray to God for general understanding. You need to understand people the more and also you need to understand the bible and Christianity too.

I come to you people in good faith,, I'm ready to learn how the Catholic Church started, don't be angry. Being a Roman Catholic I also rejected the truth, I believed in the lies as well.

As a bro in Christ-I haven't given up on you, I will try my best to help bring you towards Christ, in truth.

We can say we know Christ but really does Christ know you?

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
When you witness to non believers are you bringing them to Christ, given them the salvation prayer to be a born again Christian-Are you baptising them in the Holy Spirit? Are you saying-Lord I believe you died for me on the cross, Lord I believe the Father God had raised you from the dead, Lord I believe you are my saviour-my Lord and my King-Lord you died for my sins.
And Lord I believe.
I thank you Lord, and I pray for the Holy Spirit to enter unto me, and teach me the truth. Amen.

Or do you bring them into your Church given them the prayer how to be a good Catholic?

Theirs only one way to see God the Father in heaven and that's through Jesus Christ.
Amen

And if you are a true Christian you would agree with me, instead of condemning me as you do best...

Has my script upset you?
No-ones judging you- you do that quite well on your own.
Christians are here for each other
Then I ask you, why do you follow your religion for? If it's not important to God in Heaven...

justjify:
Young man, don't tell me what I know. Heaven knows no religion, no denomination or faith. Don't come here and do supermarket conversion. Go and do your conversion in Gwoza, Bama Cyria,China and the likes then you'll go down in history as a martyr.

I know the God I serve,I serve him in spirit and in truth. I try to accommodate other religions and ensure not to indulge in the damnable sin of self-righteousness.

Here is Gods word for you.

Romans 2:1-5.
Do you, my friend, pass judgment on others? You
have no excuse at all, whoever you are. For when
you judge others and then do the same things which they do, you condemn yourself. We know that God is right when he judges the people who do such things as these. But you, my friend, do those very things for which you pass judgment on others! Do you think you will escape God's judgment? Or perhaps you despise his great kindness, tolerance, and patience. Surely you know that God is kind, because he is trying to lead you to repent. But you have a hard and stubborn heart, and so you are making your own punishment even greater on the Day when God's anger and righteous judgments will be revealed.

Shalom

You can tell God what to do-but it will be better if we all pray, asking the Lord' to step in with this Ladies needs.
It would be better if we stand fern together and show we as the body of Christ-we care..

Some people ain't ready for Italo's direct comments, this lady obviously show's she's in need, and having the comforts of other Christians could and maybe help bring her back in believing Christ again.
We are the body of Christ aren't we

justjify:
Young man, did you read this post by before you made your comment?

italo:
Tell God your worries. Tell him how you selfishly
want a taller guy when he has already given you a
good man...and tell him your reason.
And tell him "thy will be done."
He is our Father and can grant your wish if he
wants...or he can show you that your wish is not good
for you.
But see to it that you treat the man fairly and pray
that God gives him the right woman too. Perhaps he
too deserves a taller or better woman than you.
It is only human to desire attractive things...so don't
be ashamed...but you should always subject your
desires to God's will...and remember to be loyal to
the other person involved.
I have said a prayer for you.


He not only advised, he prayed for him too. So what's wrong in what Italo did, does his comment look like was "Kicking her while she's down right in the teeth."

Many of you catholic haters need help,prayers and deliverance.

Give all you have and Lay it on

Peppyluv:
Seun I have reported this troll severally but your anti catholic mods have refused to do the needful....
This wont be tolerated in the Islamic section...its high time we have a catholic mod.

Truly this isn't just about you-if you refuse to listen that's your choice, but there are many out there who may have experienced my life, or something familiar to my story, and are looking for a change.

No-one will find Christ in dead works.
Christ is alive and He's willing to accept all those who are willing to seek Him.

justjify:
That's where the problem is, when you were in the catholic church you went to church once in a blue moon. Where there always Mass once in a blue moon? In the catholic church were you adviced to go to church once in a blue moon? Were you told not to pray and read your bible? My advice to you is this, you can never win souls for Christ by condemning other denominations. We Here is Gods word for you

Romans 10:12-13
For there is no distinction between Jew and
Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all,
abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME
OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

The Catholic church preaches holiness and encourages spiritual morals. Have you attended Mass as a catholic where the priest encouraged people to grow in vices and decrease in virtues?

Amen.
Can we learn about where the Catholic Church really came from, other then apostle Peter, but the Pope Peter and who was he?

btoks:
Good morning all, thank God for his goodness to us.
Let us pray for @brocab that he opens his heart once again to the fullness of truth,may his visit to the 'Thread for Catholics' be one where he learns even more about our Lord Jesus and the church he established.We ask through Jesus Christ.Amen

dam

Peppyluv:
bia nwokem,inwu mmanya ngwo

Do you feel offended because I speak the truth, if your soul can't be won by the Lord-then that's all right-theirs plenty more out there where you come from , and theirs plenty of Catholic's around the globe..

All I'm trying to do is reach out to you-I was once a Roman Catholic, went to Church once every blue moon-I believed in nil, my Christian faith
was worth nothing.

I remembered nothing about the Lord, the light of this world-I only survived, the way I knew how too.

So deep down I was walking in no-man's land, If I had died, I would have ended up in Hell, what the Catholic's call purgatory.

Later I realize my riches wasn't enough-since then I have become a born again Christian, and after reading His word my riches I have, couldn't save me, if I had followed my Catholic belief's I would have paid off my purgatory 50 times over, and still end up in hell.

You can't buy your way into heaven, Heaven's a free gift, we live by faith, not by works...
Peter said: silver and gold I do not have, but what I have, I give you, in the name of Jesus rise up and walk.....

I had no idea about my salvation in the Lord, let alone where I will end up

And if you call yourself a Christian in Christ you would know what light I'm speaking off.

justjify:
Young man, you don't win souls for Christ by being a religious bigot. What separates you from ISIS and Bokoharam is the use of weapon. You have been killing catholics with your tongue and your judgment is left to God. Religious bigotry, condemnation/castigation, proclaiming self-righteousness and the likes are not best ways to win souls for Christ.I owe no one any apology for being a catholic. If you have a problem with that, then deal with it,because its your problem not mine.
#ProudlyCatholic

Explain why do I deserve the lecture?

Syncan:
The cab man seem to be concerned about a different matter from yours, but he deserves the lecture though. Nice testimony indeed, by their fruits you shall know them.

I have read your testimony and really I don't really understand where you are coming from?

Did I Quote you, and I do agree with Italo people aren't ready to give free monies away-because after they receive it from you and others, instead of helping your needs, they would rather spend it on other pleasures, such as cars. Aeroplanes, and mega houses.

We call it prosperity preaching, and it's the rich that rob the poor.
Don't ask for money, just save your money and feed your family and kids.

Seek the Kingdom of heaven read your bible and believe Jesus Christ is Lord.
If you are seeking how you and your family can come closer to the Lord just Quote me...

3tees:
@brocab pls let me tell u something I think its not clear to u.Am from CAC not catholic,So pls don't discourage these people from helping becos they are not responsible for my predicaments.I came here simply because d church I go to are not ready to help.We are not up to 60 in number and must of them are still hustling.Like what Mr italo said people are not ready to give free money to anyone even churches let alone of individuals and few people DAT az dis money,u av to lie before u could get anything from them not even everything but little,they detest truth.Av bin to several place to seek for help blogs,and even family members.Even in churches they will tell u av to b a member before they could help.its really really frustrating.I didn't just come here to seek for help,i came here because I knew nd had d faith I was going to get help because d catholics do preaches on helping the poor and they don't discriminate.it was even my husband that even told me these sometimes ago when he needed help.he tried different places even his close friends DAT he gives money when he has then didn't give him.it was during DAT time he met one man called Father and d man asked what was bothering him immediately d father quickly wrote a check of 100k and give him,he was so surprised.So ,when he got home and told me I was also surprised I said 100k just like that?So,he told me that is aw they do their things that they don't discriminate.He even said d father told him he was suppose to use d money to buy ticket and travel out and he had bin trying to book online a day to dat day its not goin,he said he now knows d reason why its not going thru dat Maybe God is trying to pass a message to him to use d money to bless someone because he kept wondering why its not going.And also it was also a catholic sister from uk DAT paid for my kids school fees dis last term.I was even surprised because I don't even know her from anywhere and av never seen her before.she even told me to tell her before they resume 4 third term so as to send another money for theirschoolfees but I told her no DAT I want to revive my business and start selling my stuffs back nd takecare of myself nd kids.So,she promised she will do something about it but I don't want to put my burden on her dats why I didn't disturb her wit calls and emails.So,@brocab what am trying to say here is that pls don't make them feel as if they are doing something wrong by not supporting me.I don't know these people from anywhere to even make d matter worse I registered here to seek for help which could piss anybody off even me.People that don't contribute are supporting me wit prayers which I really app a lot.thanks and May God b wit u all.

Counselling is one thing-and being supportive is another, even in Counselling none can give the right decisions, it's up to the person's who's asking for help.
Being supportive towards the unfortunate, shows we all don't think on the same level, that's what makes us all unique.

justjify:
Hello, please try and watch your utterances. You can't give what you don't have.Not everyone has the ability to do marriage related counseling.

The ladies asking for a little support, and here's you claiming to be a servant of God, a Christian? Kicking her while she's down right in the teeth.
She's confused-everyone go's through this before getting themselves caught up in a long life marriage.
Support her, and help her make that right decision.
She's one of your tribe a Catholic.

italo:
Tell God your worries. Tell him how you selfishly want a taller guy when he has already given you a good man...and tell him your reason.

And tell him "thy will be done."

He is our Father and can grant your wish if he wants...or he can show you that your wish is not good for you.

But see to it that you treat the man fairly and pray that God gives him the right woman too. Perhaps he too deserves a taller or better woman than you.

It is only human to desire attractive things...so don't be ashamed...but you should always subject your desires to God's will...and remember to be loyal to the other person involved.

I have said a prayer for you.

And hear's me, thinking maybe we could start again as you Catholic's do announce you are good Christians.

I Have come in' as a good Samaritan, and If you do belong to Christ as you say you do, you would forgive me, as I have forgiven you.
I Have come having the word of God-standing before me, when I am walking through the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
I have come to you, wearing my full armour, and I bring to you the truth about Christ.

So I ask my fellow Christians to turn from their sinful ways repent and ask for your forgiveness and come follow after Jesus Christ.

I don't care how strong you believe the Catholic Church stands, and you may believe its the Mother of all Churches.
Christ's sits at the right hand of God in the kingdom of heaven-not the Pope.

The Catholic Church as we all know it, the Church didn't come from the apostle Peter.
Pope Peter wasn't married, and the apostle Peter was.

But the Church started somewhere-and it's carries a lot of pagan beliefs-a religious back ground, purgatory is no-where found in the bible, and worshipping Mary, is not there either-just a lie for a price.

You either believe in Jesus Christ and His Words, or you believe in the Lies what your religious leaders are teaching you.

Your Priest and your Pope are leading you all to hell, they worship Lucifer-not Jesus, this news is spreading all over the net, we read it in news papers, news reports, on television, people everywhere around the globe are starting to see the truth about these wolves in sheep clothings, they are ripping us off from our salvation, they are forcing you to believe their lies, signs and wonders.
Pope Francis has denied Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lrT57Sncxw

And Pope Benedict, said the Christian faith is false. https://youtu.be/4J9u5tlearMe

Think about why so many people are showing this on youtube, or else where, this is live entertainment, the difference is-this is about the corruption our Churches are leading us into, and those who are not seeking the truth about Christ are falling into that very same pit, our leaders are already in.

Wake up, and come follow after Christ-John 3:16, For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that who ever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

Revelation 18:4 Come out of her my people.
The Lords telling His People to listen.
Heaven is a big place for us all-not just a small few.

Revelation 17:2-6, V's 4 describes the Catholic Church the Mother of all Churches, Popes wearing Purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup fall of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication.
The Pope fits this description.

Open your hearts and minds-check this stuff out for yourselves, read up, you can help save yourselves and those around you.

Everyday as we are seeking we are closer to the endtimes.
Jesus said the truth will set you free.

Rich4god:
Dem don come again... Brocab, look for another thread plz... This is not a place to start up such issues...

The point is do you love the man.
Have you that much fear-you think every ones laughing at you?
This is your chance to be with someone who really cares for you, and all you are worried about is your fears-how your kids may turn out to be like?
Man you are willing to throw your life away, because He is shorter then you.

Is this coming from your mouth-or the mouth of others, who say they are there for you, and really deep down they are not...
You have a chance to start a family, bringing in a new life or two into this world.

MoonCares:
Please I need advice from matured people.
There's this guy that am dating, he's so caring, lovely and humble. He is planning to marry me but he is short. Though I have not gathered the courage to tell him my fears. Am average 5ft, but am taller than him. So am afraid that our kids will be short.
Please my fellow NL, I need your advice, I don't want to make mistakes in marriage. Though I have been praying to God for the right man.

Please I need your prayers, am a catholic

This shows those Catholic's who follow after Pope Francis are worshipping Lucifer, your priest worship Satan.
What priest do, you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M

Revelation 18:4-Come out of her my people say's the Lord.

2 Corinthians 11:4 If anyone has come to you and preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted.

2 John 1:9-10 'whoever transgresses and does not bring this doctrine of Christ does not have God.
And if anyone comes to you and do not bring this doctrine-do not receive him into your house nor greet him.

Not the Angels, pray to Jesus Christ..
He is our only savour-thank him for the good works.

Rich4god:
@salc... Shey u don't see wat I call boomerang... I told you... Now the angels are doing d wrk for me...

And Jesus did fulfilled the law-he changed the tithing law into a freewill giving.
Giving and tithing are two different meanings, tithing is a percentage and giving can mean more or less.
So make up your mind did Jesus tell you to tithe a percentage-or did Jesus tell you to give more or less?

And could you show me without guessing-where in the bible it say's Abraham and Jacob gave their tithes in cash, and how much?

God's Tithing was never made for money, that Idea came straight from the Pharisees, not God.
This money making tithing started from the Roman Catholic Church, and was followed by fools who claim they Know Jesus, and preach another doctrine 2 Corinthians 11:4. 2 John 1:10 if anyone comes and brings another doctrine don't let him into your house.

And could you explain to me why would God tell you to tithe under the Old testament law, and not tell his own chosen people the Jews who no-longer tithe.
1 John 4:1 Have you tested the Spirits that told you to tithe with money

jdilight:
We don't practice sacrificial laws because Jesus has fulfilled that by being a sacrificial lamb. Jesus said he did not come to destroy the law but to full fill it. He did not fulfill the moral laws.

Do you know Abraham and Jacob gave money tithe?

Do you even know that Levi is a tithe to God by Jacob?

Do you know that l give tithe because of mine love for God not my Church nor my pastor. Am like God, love drives me to give.

If you can't give your love is fake.

Jesus Christ is Lord

Wow so this is you Salc. May the Lord bless you and your baby.I pray the Lord will give you both strength, knowledge and wisdom, in truth and in bible scriptures.
Jesus Christ is Lord.

Kamsified:
Here you go dearie. This is for your eyes only biko.
Behold Salc and her baby

The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian.

Catholic precepts contradicts the bible repeatedly. Nowadays, it can be heard that the Catholic Church gave us the bible--but she actually burned bibles as well as them that translated and believed in the bible, {such as William Tyndale}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEu2N3o3SzQ
Rome is full of Heresies {e.g. the mass--many died for not believing this}

She the catholic Church has killed multitudes of Christians.
She has maintained her blasphemous reign as the so called "by force and deception-not by the truth of the bible {Which She publicly railed against}
The bible reveals who Rome is, and is therefore dangerous to her, why is she posing as a Christian Church?
False religion is a money maker.

No wonder the pentecostal prosperity preachers have join up with Rome, they are all from the same Church.
Both Churches are stealing tithes and offerings from each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGIQfV1PR-A

The Catholic Church doctrines/teachings have enabled her to collect wealth, delicacies, adoration and power for centuries on end.

Her doctrines are made up stories consisting of various elements and superstitions and pasted together with some bible name's.

The Roman Catholic Church speaks of Christ, its is speaking of its own invention, not the true Christ.
This is why her doctrines are diametrically opposed to the bible, they have been made up over centuries of time.

"One" the bible speaks of people who preach another Jesus "2 Corinthians 11:4 "For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you may well put up with it.

Scary to even think, even the elect in the pentecostal Churches could have another Spirit, of that different doctrine, preaching another Jesus, Rome fits into this same category..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWS0ePXeq24

No one said anything about Abram stealing the goods.

But they didn't belong to Abram-so not only did he tithe' he gave all, that didn't belong to him.

Anybody who loots from anyone's personal belongings without asking, by law is Classed as stolen goods.
And it was Abram who recovered those stolen goods and returned it to the rightful owner.
They are still classed as stolen until that rightful owner retrieves his goods, even in today's laws.

Genesis 14, As you see the rightful owner wasn't to keen on receiving those goods-but said to Abram Give me the persons, and take the goods for yourself." But Abram said I will take nothing from you, lest you say I have made Abram rich.

This is a good scripture to give the tithers, and here's Abram knocking back the kings blessings.

PastorKun:
You are wrong here, Abraham tithed goodss recovered from those who looted them in the first instance. The goods belonged to the king of Sodom and he recovered it for him. He was not the one that stole the goods.

Not only he tithed Foods alone but stolen goods....

jdilight:
The tithe Abraham gave to Melchizedek was it of food alone?

Here's one for you? Your brother Pope Benedict has agreed with your Muslims brothers>I hope you learn something from it-Never trust a religious leader, who calls himself the Pope--Ubenedictus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW-TypQmU4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbzRD01kMks

Ubenedictus:
you're most welcome

Not really because you keep on bringing in the tithing messages-Tithing's finish, same with the sacrificing and the burnt offerings, but if you corrected yourself more clearly and said you Give-then your message will stand out the way the Lord had said in scriptures to Give..
Listen to Grandma..

Emusan:
@bold 1 & 2-Please try to read my last 2 post, I can't keep repeating myself again.

@bold 3-Jesus emphatically says they need to Tithe but they shouldn't forget doing the rest, do you understand it now?

In your scripts you don't seem to back up your words with bible scriptures.

Do you sacrifice, do you give burnt offerings, So if you say the lord didn't abolish tithing-then it's obvious he didn't abolish sacrificing and burnt offerings either.
So can you show me anywhere, why you don't practice sacrificing and burnt offering, as well as your tithing's

Show me where in the bible tithing is about money, show me you have tested all the spirits.
1 John 4:1- Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Show me where the Lord had miss quoted Himself in scriptures.

If God told you to tithe, as you say-then God hasn't changed His law on tithing-and He didn't Change what was crops, stocks, and mechanise.
So if God told you to tithe then he told you to follow that same pattern He had showing His Jewish people back then?

jdilight:
The Lord instructed me to pay tithe. When you talk of been shown the truth, the a lot of falsehood being claimed as truth.

Jesus did not abolish tithing. People masquerading as children of light are.

Follow your heart but stop teaching people who don't have knowledge wrong things

Then instead of mouthing off show me where in scripture to prove your right and the bibles wrong.

jdilight:
You did a lot of bad job trying to sell your point. Your comparison of tithe and tax shows you don't know what is tithe.

You categories all giving as extortion, too bad

Amen

weemee:
You believe we will all die one day, if so have you thought of where you will spend eternity when you die? Heaven!

Brothers and Sisters, the only way to make heaven is through the Lord Jesus Christ. John 14:6 " Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh to the father except by me.

Because you can read this means you'v got another opportunity to make amends and turn to Jesus Christ today.
Tomorrow may be too late.
He loves you
He wants you
He died for you on the cross of Calvary
He is coming soon
Accept Him as your Lord and Saviour today and you will spend eternity in Heaven
Are you ready?

Jews and Christians-Not Catholic But Christians.

Clardo:
Catholic church & the jews

The law on Tithing was never about money, it was never a commandment, but a law-and tithing was used with sacrificing and offerings, yearly in the Old Testament.
You have asked where the Lord dis annulled the tithing law-I suppose when he dis annulled the sacrificing law, and the burnt offerings law, which you don't seem to be too keen on doing?

BUT YOU ARE KEEN TO FOLLOW ONE OF THE LAWS AND NOT THE OTHERS.
James 2:10, For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
And you have stumbled you don't follow after sacrificing, you don't follow after the burnt offerings-but you do follow only after the tithing law.

Matthew 23-23, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of Mint and anise and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Law; justice and mercy and faith.
These you ought to have done, with out leaving the others undone.

So then we have a Question for you-why leave out the sacrificing, and the burnt offerings-when we all know in the Old Testament those three were one in all, in Law.

Emusan:
Where are the facts sir?

You people claimed that Tithe has been disannulled in the Bible and I asked for the verse but only verse you people can provide is not talking about disannulling of Tithe.

Finally, the reason why Tithe was not part of what Jesus came to earth to set aside is because Tithe itself is HOLY to God according to God's statement at inauguration of Levitical priesthood.

"And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is Jehovah's: it is holy unto Jehovah" Lev 27:30 ASV

This shows another misunderstanding of that Hebrews 7 by you people.