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Giving the Laws to Moses-under the Mosaic Law system. Jesus Christ is Lord-Jesus is still I am-before Abraham I am.. And who's coming quickly-the New World Translation say's Come Lord Jesus.. Dtruthspeaker: |
We need to pray for them, that's what the Lord directs us to do..And try not to look at the person, look at the demonic activity around them, that's leading these people to hell. -- Courz: |
I will always remember-I am dealing with a senseless JW, so I will try to be a little understanding towards your twisted beliefs. Well I am not interested following a law outside my country, you are only obeying the Sabbath day-only because it comes under the Watchtowers rules and regulations. if you read the scriptures yourself, you would find, God's new covenant. He made for us to obey-the old covenant had passed, the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.{Galatians 3:24-26} The New Covenant (or New Testament) is the promise that God makes with humanity that He will forgive sin and restore fellowship with those whose hearts are turned toward Him. Jesus Christ is the mediator of the New Covenant, and His death on the cross is the basis of the promise (Luke 22:20). The New Covenant was predicted while the Old Covenant was still in effect—the prophets Moses, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel all allude to the New Covenant. The Watchtower chooses to obey the old covenant. The Old Covenant that God had established with His people required strict obedience to the Mosaic Law, because the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), the Law required that Israel perform daily sacrifices in order to atone for sin. The very thing the Watchtower refuses to practice, you don't sacrifice, but yet you claim the Mosaic Law Sabbath, still holds it's valve, when in fact Christians are under the New Covenant Jesus made with His followers. "The New Covenant involves a total change of heart so that God’s people are naturally pleasing to Him. But of course the JW's have never heard of this Covenant? The very Covenant commandment Law-you yourself refuse to obey. Dtruthspeaker: |
Everyone knows you are JW , we also know the Watchtower rape's innocent men and women and young children. I was answering your rejection on tithing-"now you are claiming you tithe? Quote: We know how to pay our TITHES? You need to get yourself together, you can't keep up with your own lies. MaxInDHouse: |
No I don't follow the laws in other countries-we have our own rules. Do you live in Israel-No,, Africa? You can do what you like-if you obey one law-then obey the tithing law,,Stone your children while you are at it. Do you sacrifice while you obey the Sabbath-No? Do you obey all the Old Testament laws No? Do you believe the New Testament law's No? Do you believe in all the Word of God, No? Do you JW's obey any of the above, No? Do you obey "all the laws of God, No? Do you believe Jesus is Lord-obviously No? Do you believe Jesus is Coming quickly, No... Dtruthspeaker: |
I for one, agree-and many different Churches have their faults, and it's a shame people are misled by false literature's, without studying the Word of God-dying from lack of knowledge-they tithe, "not realizing it's very unscriptual. Through the Old testament it was the 11 tribes of Israel' that tithed to Aaron and the Levite priesthood-most of the tithe fed the Widows, the Fatherless and the Strangers. Of course today this deafeningly doesn't happen.. Gentiles are not under the Mosaic law. Wrong teaching's such as these, "like keeping the Sabbath day-for Gentiles, shows how religious concepts have destroyed the Church. Obviously with no work being done on the Sabbath day, this would be an ideal day to have organised worship services. However the New Testament does not command that the Sabbath day' be the day of worship only because the Church is not under the Mosaic law. MaxInDHouse: |
If you are obeying the Word of God-as you claim to be-then why are you following a covenant God only made with Israel. Who told you Christians are still under the Mosaic Law? Where in fact the Jewish law had nothing to do with the gentiles. Dtruthspeaker: |
Women Were Not Created To Take Care Of Themselves - Where in the bible does this heading say? |
Obviously the Word of God makes no sense to JW's-they read it without understanding the meaning to the verses. They can't see beyond the scriptures-if the elder don't know the answer, neither will they,, it's actually a No zone to study the scriptures without an elder present. Janosky: IS AN IDIOT. I have asked Janosky to explain-Just haven't got a clue? Janosky throws them out there, but he doesn't know what any of them mean. |
Under the old covenant sacrifices were made daily at the tabernacle/ Temple. If you were to follow the Mosaic law-then you should follow the sacrifices. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. The worship was continual and there were special commands given to Israel regrading a {Sacred assembly} Held on the Sabbath, {Leviticus 23:3, Numbers 28:9} The keeping of the Sabbath was a sign the covenant between Israel and the Lord.{Exodus 31:13} The New Testament records Jew's and converts to Judaism meeting in Synagogues on the Sabbath {Mark 6:2, Luke 4:31, Luke 13:10-16, Acts 13:14, 27, 42-44, Acts 15:21, 16:13, 17:2, 18:4} Obviously with no work done on the Sabbath day. The Sabbath day, would be the ideal day to have organized worship services. "However the New Testament does not "COMMAND" that the Sabbath day be the day of worship, The Church is not under the Mosaic Law Neither are you... elated177: |
Well that's expected of you to do such-I asked you a question and you refuse to answer, the Sabbath day, or the first day of the week, Sunday are not the only days to get together. The disciples would meet everyday-even in the court yards of the temple-taking people to their own homes baptizing them, they knew the Pharisees refused Jesus. So that's great-you worship God the father everyday.. elated177: |
So you write scripture without understanding them. you haven't explained John 20, the truth is you don't know-we don't read the watchtower mags-we read the Word of God-your own bible had already given us the answer who's "coming quickly" New world translation JW bible {Rev 22:20} “The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am "coming quickly.’”+ “Amen "Come Lord Jesus.. I didn't read Jehovah "coming quickly.. Janosky: |
We were all deceived with this gospel-not knowing the scriptures-these men and women took us away from the truth-to believe in the health and wealth doctrine, we were all sheep going to the slaughter, the deaths they brought-sickness they brought, the money they stole, and the unbiblical lies they preached-the Lord warns us about Wolves in sheep clothing-these are false prophets, leading innocent people to be slaughtered. It wasn't long after Benny Hinn announces his mistakes-he asked for more money on Television-Just like Creffo dolor-he isn't any better. Would these so called believers sell all what they stole, honoring God and give it the poor. {Matthew 19:16-22} just like Jesus said to the young rich man. and come follow Me.. ponziponzi: |
I already know what the scripture say's, I have asked you to explain this verse with your own understanding-explain it the way the JW's understand it. If you were a teacher-and someone asked you to explain what the meaning is, do you just give them the verse telling them to work it out themselves? or do you explain it, so that someone can have a clear understanding of it? All scriptures are better when one understands them, just copying a verse, doesn't explain why you wrote it down in the first place We are all here to learn... Janosky: |
You are also expected to obey the Word of God-but you don't, {Joshua 1:8} Plus we are not Jew's but Gentiles. And if you are living as Jew's then you need to obey all the Jewish laws... Dtruthspeaker: |
Do you believe in keeping the Saturday Sabbath? As your worship day? elated177: |
You always copy scriptures-without giving us your understanding of them, now you have produced John 20:17- now I would like you to explain the meaning of the scripture, let us read a JW's point of view.. Janosky: |
The truth about the Sabbath elated177: |
Obviously, you haven't a clue.. elated177: |
The person who told you that-is lying to you, what you did helping that person in need was what God teaches us to do. If you read the scriptures-tithing is not biblical, you need to remove yourself out of that Church-you won't find any other scripture in the bible other then {Malachi 3:10} where it say's you are blessed through tithing. Matter of fact {Malachi 1,2,3,4} Chapters God was talking to the Levite priesthood-they broke the covenant they had with God. they turned their backs on God robbing Him. The Levite priesthood began worshiping other god's behind the veil in God's Temple, {Ezekiel 8:1-18} Is this the kind of example you follow?. Tithing was for the 11 tribes of Israel to obey, Tithing was designed to give to the widows the Fatherless, and the strangers. you had given what was right to do, it's God's commandment. {Proverbs 22:16} He who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty.. What this means-don't give your money to a church that's flowing with riches, while you are struggling through life-always look for opportunities to give it to the poor, {1 John 3:17} But whoever brother is in need, and one shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him. {Zech 7:8-10. Matthew 5:42, Matthew 6:1-4, Luke 3:10-11, Luke 14:13-14, I Cor 10:23-24, Ecc 2:26} blink: |
You can't see it? : can"t you read... it's focused on the Sabbath.. elated177: |
But you don't know what preaching the Gospel is? We aren't interested in cultsh literature, we want bible truth-and so far you have refuse to give us our needs.. You don't try to reason-everything you write repeats itself, same old same old-it's like seeing a broken record replaying itself. You have proving to us, you haven't the slightest idea.. After looking at your column-below: the above info obviously stands: 1. Jesus instructed his followers to preach the gospel--> Unlike other churches who oly broadcast on TV or have their member go in packs on the streets distributing church invites, jehovahs witnesses are the only group of christians who still patiently o from house to house teaching people |
The best way to seek God's attention-is to pray His Word back to Him,, "{isaiah 43:26} Put Me in remembrance; Let us contend together, State your case, that you maybe acquitted. God's saying read the Word of God back to Him-state your case-sample if you need somewhat healing,,pray, by His stripes I am healed. {Psalm 103:20} Bless the Lord, you His Angels, Who excel in strength, Who do His Word, Heeding the voice of His Word.. {Matthew 6: 33} First seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all things shall be added to you. But remember this one--{Psalm 66:18} If I regard iniquity in my heart the Lord will not hear. So if anyone-has a non repented unforgiving heart against family, friends, or strangers, the Lord will not answer your prayers. So find the verses you need to state your case, pray scripture..Pray a language you understand-I couldn't pray the scriptures in tongue's if I haven't the slightest idea, I am even speaking about the Word of God.. I speak tongue's but I would rather state my case in a language I know.. |
In Western culture and even in our churches, we celebrate wealth, power, strength, confidence, prestige, and victory. We despise and fear weakness, failure, and doubt. Though we know that a measure of vulnerability, fear, discouragement, and depression come with normal lives, we tend to view these as signs of failure or even a lack of faith. However, we also know that in real life, naïve optimism and the glowing accolades of glamour and success are a recipe for discontent and despair. Sooner or later, the cold, hard realism of life catches up with most of us. The story of Jacob pulls us back to reality. Frederick Buechner, one the most read authors by Christian audiences, characterizes Jacob’s divine encounter at the Jabbok River as the “magnificent defeat of the human soul at the hands of God.” It’s in Jacob’s story we can easily recognize our own elements of struggle: fears, darkness, loneliness, vulnerabilities, empty feelings of powerlessness, exhaustion, and relentless pain. Even the apostle Paul experienced similar discouragements and fears: “We were harassed at every turn—conflicts on the outside, fears within” (2 Corinthians 7:5). But, in truth, God does not want to leave us with our trials, our fears, our battles in life. What we come to learn in our conflicts of life is that God proffers us a corresponding divine gift. It is through Him that we can receive the power of conversion and transformation, the gift of not only surrender, but freedom, and the gifts of endurance, faith, and courage. In the end, Jacob does what we all must do. He confronts his failures, his weaknesses, his sins, all the things that are hurting him . . . and faces God. Jacob wrestled with God all night. It was an exhausting struggle that left him crippled. It was only after he came to grips with God and ceased his struggling, realizing that he could not go on without Him, that he received God’s blessing (Genesis 32:29). What we learn from this remarkable incident in the life of Jacob is that our lives are never meant to be easy. This is especially true when we take it upon ourselves to wrestle with God and His will for our lives. We also learn that as Christians, despite our trials and tribulations, our strivings in this life are never devoid of God’s presence, and His blessing inevitably follows the struggle, which can sometimes be messy and |
To best answer this question, it helps to know, among other things, that deep-seated family hostilities characterized Jacob’s life. He was a determined man; some would consider him to be ruthless. He was a con artist, a liar, and a manipulator. In fact, the name Jacob not only means “deceiver,” but more literally it means “grabber.” To know Jacob’s story is to know his life was one of never-ending struggles. Though God promised Jacob that through him would come not only a great nation, but a whole company of nations, he was a man full of fears and anxieties. At a pivotal point in his life, Jacob was about to meet his brother, Esau, who had vowed to kill him. All Jacob’s struggles and fears were about to be realized. Sick of his father-in-law’s treatment, Jacob had fled Laban, only to encounter his embittered brother, Esau. Anxious for his very life, Jacob concocted a bribe and sent a caravan of gifts along with his women and children across the River Jabbok in hopes of pacifying his brother. Now physically exhausted, alone in the desert wilderness, facing sure death, he was divested of all his worldly possessions. In fact, he was powerless to control his fate. He collapsed into a deep sleep on the banks of the Jabbok River. With his father-in-law behind him and Esau before him, he was too spent to struggle any longer. But only then did his real struggle begin. Fleeing his family history had been bad enough; wrestling with God Himself was a different matter altogether. That night an angelic stranger visited Jacob. {The Angel God calls ministering spirit's came to Jacob as a man} They wrestled throughout the night until daybreak, at which point the stranger crippled Jacob with a blow to his hip that disabled him with a limp for the rest of his life. It was then that Jacob realized what had happened: “ I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared” (Genesis 32:30). In the process, Jacob the deceiver received a new name, Israel, which likely means: “He struggles with God.” However, what is most important occurred at the conclusion of that struggle. We read that God “blessed him there” (Genesis 32:29). [quote author=EMILO2STApost=118689216]bullshit,, it was a physical wrestle nothing spiritual there, man has degenerated and has become weaker and weaker since the fall of Adam. this was a physical wrestling match because Jacob who was running from his brother thought that angel was his brother Esau until the angel touch his hip and dislocated his joint. notice the angel said let me go for the day is breaking and Jacob said I will never let you go unless you bless me. Jacob realised this was an angel after he dislocated his joint by just touching and that is why he asked for blessing from him fearing for his life because of his brother. there has to be a physical contact for some one to say let me go ,which is why the angel dislocated his joint to make him weaker.[/quote] |
There's something the JW's don't realize' when claiming Jehovah is coming back-and yet when I am reading the New World Translation bible-it actually say's Come Lord Jesus..So if this is the case-then it's obvious Jehovah is Jesus.. GardenOfGod: |
JW's are known as a cult. They do everything that's against the principles God expects us to follow. So "No is the answer-their claims to be somewhat Christian is another lie from the Antichrist... They have no birthdays, don't believe in miracles, holy spirit, dresses like a cult, don't celebrate Christmas and refuse blood transfusion. |
I still don't believe you are a JW, you are to polite. Atheist maybe.. Someone who haven't the slightest idea about scripture. Janosky: |
When Sabbath becomes Sunday-by Pope Francis-this will shake up most religious organisations. Pope Francis said-those refuse will be classed as world enemies against his new commandments. Its going to be interesting when these times are put in place-it may even close the Watchtower down. elated177: |
I like reading Prob: Chapters-5,6,7.The Lord tells us to stay clear away from women.. |
It was scientist who claimed the COVID, I am sure you didn't agree with that... Workch: |
Try learning the scriptures-study them, instead of taking them out of contexts.. elated177: |
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