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 Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:45am On May 16, 2019 |
We Christians live in a time that tends to shrug its shoulders when confronted with error. Instead of asking, like Pilate, “What is truth?” postmodern man says, “Nothing is truth” or perhaps “There is truth, but we cannot know it.” We’ve grown accustomed to being lied to, and many people seem comfortable with the false notion that the Bible, too, contains errors. The doctrine of biblical inerrancy is an extremely important one because the truth does matter. This issue reflects on the character of God and is foundational to our understanding of everything the Bible teaches. Here are some reasons why we should absolutely believe in biblical inerrancy: 1. The Bible itself claims to be perfect. “And the words of the Lord are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace of clay, purified seven times” {Psalm 12:6} “The law of the Lord is perfect” {Psalm 19:7} “Every word of God is pure” {Proverbs 30:5 KJV} These claims of purity and perfection are absolute statements. Note that it doesn’t say God’s Word is “mostly” pure or scripture is “nearly” perfect. The Bible argues for complete perfection, leaving no room for “partial perfection” theories. 2. The Bible stands or falls as a whole. If a major newspaper were routinely discovered to contain errors, it would be quickly discredited. It would make no difference to say, “All the errors are confined to page three.” For a paper to be reliable in any of its parts, it must be factual throughout. In the same way, if the Bible is inaccurate when it speaks of geology, why should its theology be trusted? It is either a trustworthy document, or it is not. 3. The Bible is a reflection of its Author. All books are. The Bible was written by God Himself as He worked through human authors in a process called “inspiration.” “All scripture is God-breathed” {2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:21 and Jeremiah 1:2} We believe that the God who created the universe is capable of writing a book. And the God who is perfect is capable of writing a perfect book. The issue is not simply “Does the Bible have a mistake?” but “Can God make a mistake?” If the Bible contains factual errors, then God is not omniscient and is capable of making errors Himself. If the Bible contains misinformation, then God is not truthful but is instead a liar. If the Bible contains contradictions, then God is the author of confusion. In other words, if biblical inerrancy is not true, then God is not God. 4.The Bible judges us, not vice versa. “For the word of God...judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart” {Hebrews 4:12} Notice the relationship between “the heart” and “the Word.” The Word examines; the heart is being examined. To discount parts of the Word for any reason is to reverse this process. We become the examiners, and the Word must submit to our “superior insight.” Yet God says, “But who are you, O man, to talk back to God?” {Romans 9:20} 5. The Bible’s message must be taken as a whole. It is not a mixture of doctrine that we are free to select from. Many people like the verses that say God loves them, but they dislike the verses that say God will judge sinners. But we simply cannot pick and choose what we like about the Bible and throw the rest away. If the Bible is wrong about hell, for example, then who is to say it is right about heaven—or about anything else? If the Bible cannot get the details right about creation, then maybe the details about salvation cannot be trusted either. If the story of Jonah is a myth, then perhaps so is the story of Jesus. On the contrary, God has said what He has said, and the Bible presents us a full picture of who God is. “Your word, O Lord, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens” {Psalm 119:89} 6. The Bible is our only rule for faith and practice. If it is not reliable, then on what do we base our beliefs? Jesus asks for our trust, and that includes trust in what He says in His Word. {John 6:67-69} is a beautiful passage. Jesus had just witnessed the departure of many who had claimed to follow Him. Then He turns to the twelve apostles and asks, “You do not want to leave too, do you?” At this, Peter speaks for the rest when he says, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.” May we have the same trust in the Lord and in His words of life. None of what we have presented here should be taken as a rejection of true scholarship. Biblical inerrancy does not mean that we are to stop using our minds or accept what the Bible says blindly. We are commanded to study the Word {2 Timothy 2:15}, and those who search it out are commended {Acts 17:11} Also, we recognize that there are difficult passages in the Bible, as well as sincere disagreements over interpretation. Our goal is to approach Scripture reverently and prayerfully, and when we find something we do not understand, we pray harder, study more, and—if the answer still eludes us—humbly acknowledge our own limitations in the face of the perfect Word of God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 10:23pm On May 14, 2019*. Modified: 3:23am On May 15, 2019 |
Janosky:Well if I am lying-then the bible must be lying too-everything we write is written down from manuscripts out of the bible! Janosky:Yes we do know the JW's refuse Christ-frauding His Name across the globe-we also know-why Paul wrote {2 Corinthians 11:4} obviously for good reasons, obviously for reasons such as yours! {Galatians 1:6-9} We also know and believe in one gospel-where in your case you had turned away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ to a different gospel! Janosky:{Revelation 22:19-20} Jesus said: if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!… Meaning to say, who made Sir Isaac Newton 'God-that he feels he has the rights to Change the scriptures. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:30am On May 09, 2019*. Modified: 2:57am On May 09, 2019 |
Janosky:Do you see the name Jehovah ''I think not-but ''Yahweh ''Lord'' is written in the scriptures! Janosky:This is a good reason why we don't believe in the Watchtower doctrines-you would prefer to believe Sir Isaac Newton, he didn't change anything-no one had taken him seriously, as we can see, the bible is still written just as God had written it Himself-you would prefer to believe a fraudster then believe the Word of God. {2 Corinthians 11:4} ''For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. This is why we have so many disagreements, you can't accept the bible as it is, but you would rather look into someone else's backyard to find some tool to destroy the truth that God had written in His Word, 'if you knew God-you wouldn't try so hard to destroy Him-but you don't know God-this is why you find it so easy to be like Sir Isaac Newton, he tried to destroy God's Word 'not knowing the power that lay's within the Scriptures .... Janosky: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:02am On May 09, 2019 |
Now who do I believe a JW or do I believe the bible-personally I prefer the bible, because a JW doesn't know how long, the name Jehovah had been around since the 1500's, "Jesus never once called His Father Jehovah" so get of your high horse and get back to reality. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:24am On May 08, 2019*. Modified: 2:00am On May 08, 2019 |
It seem's you can't write anything, without showing your anger through your word's, I suppose if I needed any information I wouldn't ask a JW, I would turn to my Bible, which say's: {Deuteronomy 6:5} You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. {Matthew 22:36-37} “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is deafeningly the answer I would expect from my Bible-the Lord is One.. {Deuteronomy 6:4} “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! 'So if Yahweh is Jehovah, than Jehovah is Jesus--The Lord is One..Don't forget God manifested Himself in the flesh-preached among the Gentiles. {1 Timothy 3:16} And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. So every time I seem to read it from my Bible, I haven't forgotten about {John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. I find most Bibles are in-line with one another, but than I find-the only Bible that is out of place is the N.W.Translation Bible, the Watchtower calls Jesus an angel, where the watchtower bow's down before it 'as their Jehovah god! Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:13pm On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 3:06am On May 05, 2019 |
Maximus69:When the JW's come knocking, you can't come in-we are not upset your god is different from our God-we are not interested in your god, we come here to spread the truth and the life, just like Jesus had directed us too. I don't know why you would allow Satan to enter into your hearts-what you say against us, you are trying to destroy Jesus.. I don't know about you, destroying Jesus-is disobeying God-and without repentance you won't see your paradise. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:49am On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 12:36pm On May 04, 2019 |
Why did Jesus never address God by the name “Jehovah”? Because the name didn't come into existence until the late 1500's.. No, prior to the cross, Jesus spoke of God as ‘God’. In {Mark 12:29-30} he quoted the Shema from {Deuteronomy 6:4-5} which says, “Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. Abba Father, is a good one-how about--“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” Which means My God My God.. {Mark 15.34} I can't see the name Jehovah anywhere? Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:56am On May 03, 2019 |
Janosky:Then if we were call on the name of Jehovah to be saved, then Jehovah is truly Jesus! Janosky:Some say Allah and Jehovah are one, Just like we believe Jesus and His Father are One! The Jehovah's Witnesses reference passages like {John 5:43} where Jesus says, "I have come in my Father's name," and {John 10:25} where Jesus speaks of "the works I do in My Father's name." First of all, it is ironic that these verses do not contain the name "Jehovah" even in the Jehovah's Witnesses' New World Translation. To assume that because Jesus came in the Father's name that He had to walk around saying His literal, personal name all the time is just silly. By oversimplifying what is meant by the word "name," they fail to grasp the plain meaning of the text. The issues are similar in other references like {John 17:6} "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word."What does it mean to manifest God's name? Jesus goes on to explain immediately in {Verses 7-8} "Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You; for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me." Jesus life, work, teachings, and ministry were from the Father. Jesus is one with the Father, was sent by the Father, and perfectly represented the Father. Jesus didn't teach the disciples a set of syllables by which they were to refer to God. They were all practicing Jews and already knew the name YHWH. Jesus manifested the name of the Father. He perfectly represented the person and will of the Father. This is what Jesus is saying. Likewise, when Jesus taught His disciples to pray in {Matthew 6:9} "Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name." He taught them to keep God's name as Holy, and this didn't involve actually speaking the word! Nowhere in Jesus' model prayer does the word "Jehovah" occur, not even in the New World Translation. Janosky: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 4:07pm On May 02, 2019*. Modified: 4:27pm On May 02, 2019 |
I suppose just like the rest of us, we are tried trying to show you, we can't deny the bible-which of course is the Word of God-teaching you anything-IS LIKE TEACHING A DOG TO TEACH A JW TO ROLL OVER. {Revelations 3:5} Really doesn't suit your understanding, {He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.} {2 Corinthians 11:4} Paul warned us-if anybody preaches to you, another Jesus and another spirit-not the one we have preached to you, you may very well put up with it-the bottom line is, He who overcomes are those preaching the Word of God, the ones led by the Holy Spirit-which of course is the same doctrine Jesus's taught to His disciples, Jesus said, those dressed in white robes are those who endure to the end will be saved-these are the ones preaching the Word of God. I suppose in your kingdom, you can preach what ever you like to preach-but it is not the Word of God, and you do not endure unto the end.. And it is not the kingdom come Jesus talks about! Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:40pm On May 02, 2019*. Modified: 4:49pm On May 02, 2019 |
Maximus69:{John 17:6,26} Jesus Prays for His Disciples “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. {V 26} And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.” None of the above have you kept.. Maximus69:{Matthew 6:6} His Father Our Father-is One Father, when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you feel unsure, Call out in Jesus Name-because all things have been granted to Him-Only Jesus can save you.. I remember reading something a little while ago-about a certain JW, she came under some spiritual activity-she was told by her elders to call out to Jehovah, she said: in Jehovah's name I rebuke you demon, 'the demon stayed-she would call out again-and still nothing happen-she asked her elders again and again, they didn't have a answer for her-she was hopeless, frightened and fearful.. But the good news was, this forced her to search outside the Watchtower-she found out she could pray to Jesus, as soon as she use Jesus name, the demon left her-after that she repented and gave her life over to Jesus, and left the watchtower in the mean time.. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 4:01am On Apr 30, 2019*. Modified: 4:26am On Apr 30, 2019 |
Likewise, when Jesus taught His disciples to pray in {Matthew 6:9} "Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name." He taught them to keep God's name as Holy, and this didn't involve actually speaking the word! Nowhere in Jesus' model prayer does the word "Jehovah" occur, "Not even in the New World Translation. So how come-you claim Jehovah is God's name, but when you pray you say Our Father.. If God's name was really Jehovah-then why had the NWT changed it to Our Father when it should sound Our Jehovah who is in Heaven? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:40am On Apr 30, 2019 |
Where in the spiritual realm does Jesus call His Father Jehovah? Janosky:Under no circumstances did Yahshua (Jesus) ever call or use the word “Jehovah”. that particular word did not even exist until 1520, when a Fransciscan Catholic priest named Peter Gallatin (Petrus Gallitinus) mixed up the tetragrammaton (four letter sacred name of God in Hebrew) YHVH with the vowels of the word Adonai, the Hebrew word for lord or master, and jumbled together a made-up word “Iahovah”, and the letter we know as “J” was just being invented, usually to substitute for the letter “I” or “Y”, and stuck that on there. Yahshua used the Aramaic term for God, Alaha, the Aramaic term for Father, Ab or Abba, and the sacred name, Yahweh. {Mark 14:36, Romans 8:5, Galatians 4:6} And he said, “Abba, Father, all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.” {John 1:12–13}Many claim that all people are “children of God,” but the Bible reveals quite a different truth. ''We are all His creations and under His authority and lordship, and all will be judged by Him, but the right to be a child of God and call Him “Abba Father” is something that only born-again Christians have. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 10:30pm On Apr 28, 2019*. Modified: 10:58pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
I have never heard, a JW, praying over the sick, raising the dead, nor the blind see, "complaints is all I read-for how many years, has it been said: giving blood helps save lives! So yes, all around the world-people need blood to survive, now that's up to you-but if you believe your blood is contaminated-then I agree with you, don't give your blood. The Watchtower had taken scripture out of context-so of course it's your decision-, if my blood group would save just one life, I wouldn't hesitate to give it, and I wouldn't argue over it, nor would I think about it-automatically I would just do it, without a sound. THIS IS WHAT BEING A CHRISTIAN IS ALL ABOUT, ISN'T IT, SAVING LIVES! {Matthew 25:45} Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:59pm On Apr 27, 2019*. Modified: 12:21am On Apr 28, 2019 |
The apostle Paul addressed his fellow believers as, “…my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life” {Philippians 4:3 ESV} Yes, I ask you also, true companion, help these women, who have labored side by side with me in the gospel together with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. This clearly tells us that Christians have their names written in the Book of Life. Christians preaching Jesus.. “The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels” {Revelation 3:5 ESV} This passage tells us that perseverance is essential to one who has his or her name written in the Book of Life. Faithfulness to God is crucial to having one’s name secure in God’s kingdom. This verse also reinforces the fact that it is Jesus who determines whose name is, or is not, in the Book of Life. {Revelation 13:8 ESV} Anyone who worships anything other than God exhibits proof that their names are not written in the Book of Life. {see also Revelation 17:8} If there is anything in one’s life that is more important than God, that thing is an idol; {What are Cults-The JW's claims no-one can be saved outside the Watchtower} the Bible makes it clear that idolaters will not have their names written in the Book of Life {1 Corinthians 6:9; 15:50; Galatians 5:21; Ephesians 5:5; 1 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 12:14, 13:4; Revelation 21:8} So fact's shows who's names are written in the book of life, those who endure unto the end will be saved, ''The only way to be assured that our names will be in the Book of Life is to be dedicated followers of Jesus Christ, “…if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved” {Romans 10:9-10 ESV} Whether or not the Book of Life is an actual book or simply a metaphor for God’s record-keeping activities, the reality it speaks of is that one’s name must be in it to be counted among the redeemed. The Bible also makes it very clear that our names are guaranteed to be in the Book of Life purely based on our relationship with Jesus Christ. Jesus said that, “…everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven” {Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8; Acts 16:31} If we have trusted Him with our lives, we are heaven bound, if we have rejected His saving offer of grace, our names will be blotted out of the book, we are bound for eternal punishment {Matthew 25:46} I believe Paul was looking well and truly into the future when he wrote this verse, below-he made it quite clear who would preach another Jesus, you JW's must be on top of the list concerning.. {2 Corinthian 11:4} For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:15pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
See that wasn't hard for you to recognise-Thank you...Jesus also shed His blood on the Cross for us all.. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:11pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
It's about time you retrieved some proper learning skills, since all what what comes out of your mouth is complete rubbish "Question Janosky: "What does it mean that Jesus is God's only begotten son?" Answer: The phrase “only begotten Son” occurs in {John 3:16} which reads in the King James Version as, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten." It's this last phrase {"only begotten" used in the KJV, NASB and the NKJV} that causes problems. False teachers have latched onto this phrase to try to prove their false teaching that Jesus Christ isn't God; i.e., that Jesus isn't equal in essence to God as the Second Person of the Trinity. They see the word "begotten" and say that Jesus is a created being because only someone who had a beginning in time can be "begotten." What this fails to note is that "begotten" is an English translation of a Greek word. As such, we have to look at the original meaning of the Greek word, not transfer English meanings into the text. So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature {BAGD, 3rd Edition} monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is its meaning in {Hebrews 11:17} when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham's "only begotten son" {KJV} Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant. Therefore, it is the uniqueness of Isaac among the other sons that allows for the use of monogenes in that context. The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in {John 3:16, see also John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9} John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus is the Son of God {John 20:31} and he uses monogenes to highlight Jesus as uniquely God's Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God's sons and daughters by adoption {Ephesians 1:5} Jesus is God’s “one and only” Son. The bottom line is that terms such as "Father" and "Son," descriptive of God and Jesus, are human terms that help us understand the relationship between the different Persons of the Trinity. If you can understand the relationship between a human father and a human son, then you can understand, in part, the relationship between the First and Second Persons of the Trinity. The analogy breaks down if you try to take it too far and teach, as some pseudo-Christian cults (such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses), that Jesus was literally "begotten" as in “produced” or “created” by God the Father. Janosky: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 5:08pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
Maybe if you were to obey the scriptures, believe in the same Jesus that's written in the bible-yes you do have a good chance? But anybody who claims to know Jesus and not preach God's Word is a crackpot.. Anybody that say's the bible is written with double standards-claiming the bible is unreliable and faulty is a lair. Anybody that claims a religion that began in 1871 is God's true followers, is a fool.. Maximus69: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 4:48pm On Apr 25, 2019*. Modified: 5:19pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
It was the way I had explained it to the JW, no offence to anybody, we know-we are walking on the right path to know.. I believe our names are written-I believe 'because I see fruit.. Jesus said: go out unto all the nations and preach "His" Gospel, we don't preach another gospel, not like we see others from different denominations do. And like Paul said: {2 Corinthians 11:4} they preach another Jesus-and they may put up with it, but you and I don't put up with it.. johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:09pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Janosky:Jesus said: we will know them by their fruit-so Jesus made me judge.. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:05pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Where there is history-there's always truth to be found-Try looking it up-Jehovah's name had been around for at least 500 years, before that it didn't exist.. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:41am On Apr 24, 2019 |
Well if you truly believed in Jesus Christ-you will be preaching His gospel. but you don't preach His gospel, you are just like Paul said: you won't preach it because you refuse to believe it, so your fruit will not shine amongst God's people-so I don't like your chances.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:45pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
None of us deserves to have his/her name written down in God’s book. We all deserve eternal damnation. The only explanation for why a hell-deserving sinner has his/her name written down in the Lamb’s book of life before the foundation of the world is because God is gracious and merciful and wishes to provide his Son with a Bride that will enjoy his glorious presence and love for eternity. Had God chosen not to inscribe anyone’s name in his book, he would have done no one an injustice. What he has revealed is the responsibility of each individual to repent and believe the gospel. If a person does not believe the gospel, just like you refusing to know the Word of God-you have no one to blame but yourself. If you were to believe the gospel, you would find their is no other god's, beside Jesus. God has not chosen to reveal to us the names written in the Lamb's book of life, but I don't like your chances-Johnw has a much better chance then you 'right now. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:58pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
The name Jehovah is only at least 500 years old.. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:48pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
No one is complaining sucker.. {2 Corinthians 11:4} "For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. And you had done just as Paul said, you will do.. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 10:13pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
You keep on lying, you will keep on dying! I see your deceitful heart in action-from your falsely speaking-you have blaspheme the Holy Spirit-from a active force-you expect us to believe you, actually believe, the Holy Spirit exist.. You must be having such a hard time-when your spirit touches you with that active force, every time it's active, you must be hitting the deck.. {2 Thessalonians 2:3-4} Let no JW deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of the Watchtower's false god, proclaiming himself to be Jehovah. Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 9:07pm On Apr 22, 2019*. Modified: 9:31pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
The last time I read the scriptures, it said: this>{1 Timothy 4:1-2} Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron. If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. These things command and teach. Take Heed to Your Ministry--Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all. Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. {1 Thessalonians 2:3-4} Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 9:30pm On Apr 21, 2019 |
Maximus69:If you were born again-you wouldn't dare call a cult your Church.. Maximus69:We know them by their fruit, If you were born again, you wouldn't be preaching another doctrine-firstly-you refuse to recognise the Spirit of truth, you refuse to recognise the Spirit of God is a He, it is He who will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak, and He will declare to you the things that are to come. {John 16:13–14} {A big difference to the Holy Spirit you claim to know, the Watchtower calls it an active force, one without a voice} Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 8:53pm On Apr 21, 2019 |
How many Holy Spirit's do you know, there's only One, but unfortunately you have come under another Jesus as Paul said: but not the Jesus that comes under one umbrella-one Gospel, one Accord-one Message-one Anointing, One God and Savour Jesus Christ.. {2 Corinthians 11:4-5} For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. Easily you have accepted another gospel-your gospel doesn't line up with the bible, your Jesus, is not bible Jesus-matter of fact your Jesus preaches another doctrine, as Paul said it will happen.. TATIME: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 8:38pm On Apr 21, 2019*. Modified: 9:41pm On Apr 21, 2019 |
Maximus69:{Acts 7:48} This is why we know you lie against the truth-born again believers know the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. Heaven is His throne, and Earth is His footstool--"Every believer knows, God does not have any place in Kingdom Hall--God no longer reins in temples made by hands.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 8:22am On Apr 21, 2019 |
Are you a tither? Pastor Isce? Isce: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 8:18am On Apr 21, 2019 |
{2 Corinthians 11:3-7} But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. "For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. I do not think I am in the least inferior to those “super-apostles.” I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way. Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 8:12am On Apr 21, 2019 |
Paul say's, if we listen to a different gospel-we may well put up with it "deceived, but I myself would rather stick with the true gospel, "Wouldn't you? Isce: |
Haba! all these agitation, pigheaded and crying just because JWs said their God differs from yours. 
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