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No I haven't a clue what Max is talking about-they are all false accusers, but if the JW's are terrorist and they refuse to obey the law, than they deserve their punishment.. johnw47: |
Does it really matter if I said: I am also a non denominational believer. johnw47: |
Your war had already began-since Russell created your world, your war is your own-you think the armies are up against you because the Watchtower is innocent, "No" your war have murdered millions of innocent lives, your war is dated back since the Watchtower was built, your war is about false prophesies, your war have destroyed marriages, families, your war have turned love ones against each other, and because of stupidity that flows through the Watchtowers veins, the Watchtower had created a war of hatred against the image of God. So your war is against the law of the land-are you assuming the Watchtower are now acting as terrorist against the law, you feel our prayers are unworthy to even have any consideration to our Father in Heaven, if you choose not to pray-then obey the law of the land.. ''But if you can't agree upon the law, then the Watchtower is acting as a terrorist against the law, your war is about Watchtower corruption, and if these soldiers were arresting those who have tried to destroy everything in it's path, without your prayers-then by law allow the law to run it's course.. "The flesh war's against the spirit-you claim to be Christian, then pray about it-but if you feel your prayers are unworthy-and if you can't see the enemy coming up against you-first physically then spiritually, then your war is not our Christian war, Our war is against principalities, against the demon's and against the darkness of this world. Maximus69:The power of prayer, If not prayer is not what you need, then how can God help you-first seek the kingdom of God-and all things shall be added unto you-prayer heals the sick, prayer raises the dead, the blind now see, ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’ {Matthew 6:33} “But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. {Joshua 6: 2-5} The LORD said to Joshua, "I am putting into your hands Jericho, with its king and all its brave soldiers. You and your soldiers are to march around the city once a day for six days. ''Seven priests, each carrying a trumpet, are to go in front of the Covenant Box. On the seventh day you and your soldiers are to march around the city seven times while the priests blow the trumpets. Then they are to sound one long note. As soon as you hear it, all the people are to give a loud shout, and the city walls will collapse. Then the whole army will go straight into the city." This was a Prayer to break down walls, just believe our prayer's to our Father God, He can change nations.. If you haven't read the Old and New testament about witchcraft try reading {Acts 8:9-24} About Simon the Sorcerer, even in the old testament the stories of Moses. Maximus69: |
It sounds you are watching to many war movies, so you are a gunner-you will do this or that-but never seem to get around to it. TATIME:Would not a soldier defend his own squadron, both JW's on different sides? Plus JW's don't fight wars, nor do they join the force-JW's don't have an army that saves lives... Maximus69:Obviously you have never heard of Spiritual warfare, we come up against the spiritual activity everyday-while we wear the armour of God, we pray against demons, the principalities and darkness in this world. Jesus said: His kingdom is not of this world.. {2 Timothy 2:3-4} Also: “You therefore must endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No one engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier.” It say's your flesh wars against the Spirit-and everything you preach unbiblical interferes with the affairs of this life, you are walking on dangerous grounds against your follow comrade-your kingdom will not stand alone.. Maximus69: |
And he is against you-who think you preach Jesus!! TATIME: |
{2 Thessalonians 3:6} In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. This is why we don't walk with you! Maximus69: |
Maximus69:Now why would you take any notice to this JW above, who is a wringer and a complainer in heart, Janosky-you should know better, this is the guy you should be teaching the Watchtowers principles=how can he expect the JW's to be loving towards us. 'Doesn't he realise, your doctrines you preach is unbiblical against the biblical of Christ! 'Teach this man above to be quite-name calling is rule number one against those outside your organisation. Janosky:Maximus69 will give the JW's a bad name-it is your duty to give back evil from good works-your job is to shut the Word of God down-your job is to shut down those who stand for the Word of God, those who's spreading the truth about Christ, baptising them in the Name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit in Jesus's Almighty Name. Janosky: |
First of all I would like to say-we are pleased to hear-you have finely made your decision and you no longer hide your identity, truth is always revealed by the Lord-your hidden tactics is resolved.. And I suppose if we were to study the scriptures, and if your faith causes you to make your decision to allow someone to die, then it is obvious the faith you may think you have-is dead in Christ... {Leviticus 17:7-14} They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols to whom they prostitute themselves. This is to be a lasting ordinance for them and for the generations to come.’ “Say to them: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice and does not bring it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to sacrifice it to the Lord must be cut off from the people of Israel. “‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people. For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. {Giving would save a life} Therefore I say to the Israelites, “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.” “‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, {Animal} because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.” I suppose when we have Holy communion together we are drinking into account the blood of Jesus.. As the Lord was instituting the Lord’s Supper, He said in {Matthew 26:28} “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.” The Apostle Paul, speaking to the Ephesian elders said in {Acts 20:28} “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.” We read in {Romans 5:8-9} “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Maximus69: |
I wonder what your decision will be when someone special to you needs blood-You won't be able to save them... Maximus69: |
I can't see a future with JW's! so I have been searching the net for other avenues, not much happening around the traps.. johnw47: |
Who are the Christians? Maximus69: |
No" his dreaming" with name like these-I believe before Tatime existed these were his user names from the past-I don't know them-he thinks I designed Cartoons, about the JW's, but I do think putting these on page was a great idea-I like reading them, they are so true. I haven't been spending time with them bro, they haven't a clue, which way is Up.. johnw47: |
If you seen your blind friend walking on the rail tracks not paying attention, and behind him a train was coming-would you scream, yell send the alarm or cast a stone to get his attention to get of the tracks, all would you sit back and allow the train to run over him! Over time I have read "the many Christians trying to reach out to you, and still you reject the Word of God without reason, you come across with some sort of an bad attitude-you are like "one" walking on those tracks-blind and destitute. I have noticed every time you bring tithing forward-you don't seem to handle the rejections to well, "why preach tithing in the first place, why bring up a subject that doesn't line up with scripture anyway? And I am sure we all agree we will defend the Word of God-so I ask you-can you show me in scripture, where you see tithing is practiced still" in this day and age... When a tither enters in a room they sound a trumpet, "bagging how blessed they are-I don't care if you tithe-that's between you and who you tithe with: God say's-give in secret? So why do you tithe, and announce it like there's no tomorrow. What does scripture say? But when you give to the needy, {Where in fact you don't give to the needy} do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. {Matthew 6:3-4} "I know, not only I, but I am sure we all agree on bible knowledge-and we all agree we have received the Holy Spirit to teach us all things concerning bible literature. But what I don't understand-is why God allows you to tithe-when in fact-He tells us not to tithe a percentage, but Give 'all or less!! {Matthew 6:26} Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? {Neither do I sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and the Lord also feeds me too.} Image123: |
Image 123, I have asked you, your reasons why you tithe, as usual you haven't given me your time of day-to explain why? "Next questions if tithing is a big deal to you, then how much do you make, spreading the Word of God? There are seven decisive reasons for saying Christians are not required to tithe. 1. Believers are no longer under the Mosaic covenant {Romans 6:14–15; 7:5–6, Galatians 3:15–4:7, 2 Corinthians 3:4–18} The commands stipulated in the Mosaic covenant are no longer in force for believers. Some appeal to the division between the civil, ceremonial, and moral law to support tithing. Yet these divisions, I would observe, are not the basis Paul uses when addressing how the law applies to us today. And even if we use these distinctions, tithing is clearly not part of the moral law. It’s true the moral norms of the Old Testament are still in force today, and we discern them from the law of Christ in the New Testament, but tithing is not among these commands. 2. Some think tithing is required because both Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth, and they both lived before the Mosaic covenant was in place. Such examples hardly prove tithing is for all time, however. Abraham’s gift to Melchizedek was a one-time event; there is no evidence he regularly gave God a tenth. Jacob’s giving of a tenth signified his gratefulness to God for promising to be with him and to protect him. His gratefulness and generosity still speak to us today, but a historical description of what Jacob gave doesn’t support the idea that all believers must give God a tenth of their income. 3. Tithes were given to the Levites and priests, but there are no Levites and priests in the new covenant. Levites and priests were tied to the sacrificial system of the old covenant. Now all believers are priests {1 Peter 2:9, Revelation 1:6, 5:10, 20:6} with Jesus as our Melchizedekian high priest {Hebrews 7} Israel was supposed to celebrate a tithe every three years in Jerusalem. But that requirement cannot apply to Christians today. It related to the Jews as a nation—to Jews who lived in the land of promise. With the coming of Christ, the Jewish nation is no longer the locus of God’s people, though individual Jews are part of the church through faith in Jesus. The earthly Jerusalem is no longer central in God’s purposes {Galatians 4:25} Believers are part of the heavenly Jerusalem {Galatians 4:26} and look forward to the city to come {Hebrews 11:10} to the new heavens and new earth {Revelations 21:1–22:5} Abraham isn’t heir of the land of Israel, but of the whole world {Romans 4:13} 5. If tithing is required today, how much should we give? As noted above, the number was certainly more than 10 percent and closer to 20 percent. Those who advocate tithing should probably settle on 20 percent. "Do you tithe 20%? 6. Some defend tithing by saying Jesus praised tithing, even if he said it was less important than other things {Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42} This argument appears strong, but it’s not persuasive. Jesus also mentioned offering sacrifices in the temple, {Matthew 5:23–24} but Christians don’t think—even if the temple were rebuilt—that we should do that. Our Lord’s words are understandable when we think about his location in redemptive history. Jesus spoke about sacrifices and tithing before the cross and resurrection, before the dawn of the new covenant. He used tithing and sacrifices as illustrations when addressing his contemporaries. He kept the law since he was “born under the law” {Galatians 4:4} But we can no more take his words as a commendation for tithing today than we can his words about offering sacrifices. 7. Nowhere is tithing mentioned when commands to give generously are found in the New Testament. When Christians are instructed to give to the poor, they aren’t commanded to give “the poor tithe.” Instead, they are instructed to be generous in helping those in need {Acts 2:43–47, 4:32–37, 11:27–30, Galatians 2:10, 1 Corinthians 16:1–4; 2 Corinthians 8:1–9:15} For example, {1 Corinthians 16:1–14} a passage often cited in popular circles in support—doesn’t mention tithing; it relates to a one-time gift for poor saints in Jerusalem. |
Even the demons believe and tremble: Maximus69: |
I would only expect someone like a pastor to return an answer like yours, so the Word is ramble jumble-If Gentiles were to tithe, the bible would have said so: if Christians were to tithe-the bible would have told us that as well! But sadly it doesn't tell us to tithe-and if we were to tithe the old way-we shouldn't break the rules like the tithers do today! And if tithing was so much in line with scripture-today-then at least Jesus should had been a good example to collect tithes-and tithed-and if we were to become like Jesus-then why does man expect the Church to tithe from wages to a non taxable profit, that has no interest.. Is this clear for you to understand? Image123: |
Now you are here let us hear you verdict, tell us, who told you that the Gentile Christians should tithe, and if you haven't any evidence to prove tithing is for the Church today-then why preach it as it has power to your word? Image123: |
Now I am glad this had got your attention-then maybe if you could explain yourself-who told you that the Gentile Christians should tithe, and if you haven't any evidence to prove tithing is for the Church today-then why preach it as it has power to your word? We have all been down this merry-go-round, but it takes just a few little steps to know the truth about tithing>Jesus said: first seek the kingdom of God and all things shall be added to you! So the Church seeks after health and wealth-they teach martial merchandise and having your best life now is God's blessings to you! Tithers are taught, blessed is he who tithe, then those who don't tithe... But what do you say: Image123:Is it so much a lie when I defend the bible-when the scriptures tells me, the command to tithe was given only to the Jewish people, "Not the Gentiles! The tithe was intended to provide for the upkeep of the Temple in Jerusalem and to support the Priesthood who owned no land and did not work to support themselves. these day's there is no longer any need to support a priesthood made up of people who do not own land or work for a living. If we were to search the scriptures, and clearly read them, we would find-the tithes were paid directly to the Levites-not priest-the levites were the cleaners, they were the car-park attendants, they set up the seats, they stood at the door greeting people, they set up the stage, they played the music, they sang the songs, 23% yearly they received food products, and gave the high Priest Aaron that year only 10% of food products-the rest of the food products were disputed between their families, friends the poor the stranger, the widows etc, etc, etc... Image123: |
I remember the day's when I was first told about tithing-God didn't tell me to tithe, it was the Church that told me I had to tithe. At the time, as a young Christian I never understood tithing, it never made sense, why a God would freely call us into His kingdom for the money? I played the game-but my heart was never there, the problem was, I was seeking after the truth, I read the scriptures over and over and still, the tithing I had read, wasn't the tithing the Church claims today! The tithing system had caused so much trouble within the body of Christ-reading {1 Timothy 6:3-5} the Lord tells us to withdraw ourselves from men of corrupt minds, who are destitute of the truth who suppose that godliness is the means to their financial gain.. Look at Kenneth Copeland, if the Church could afford to pay out the money this man earns in one day-Africa would be free from starving, the world wouldn't have to live in poverty, everybody would live like those in a non poverty state.. If these men and women were from God-then why doesn't the Church prosper as good as these who live in mega mansions, build mega Churches, and drive and fly mega machines? And why doesn't this line up with the Word of God? Image123: |
{Galatians 1:10} Greeting: Paul, an apostle {not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead}, and all the brethren who are with me, To the churches of Galatia! Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen. Only One Gospel! I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ. {Galatians 6:1-5}Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For each one shall bear his own load. I suppose when we believe there's other gospels besides the Word of God-we just end up falling into a ditch. The bible tells us to test everything, test the spirit behind the message, test the persons preaching the message, if it does't line up with the Word of God-walk away, because having the wrong message can cause people to fall. |
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{Mark 2:5-7} When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, “Why does this fellow talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9OGg6qPwTo |
{Mark 2:5-7} When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, “Why does this fellow talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9OGg6qPwTo |
EVILFOREST:Evil is Tatime favoured at the moment-Evil sticks together-it can only line up with another resources of evil--"The watchtower is knowing as the other resources, so Dr evil-had wrote his brothers and sisters in the Watchtower a love letter. How does Darkness shine where there is light... Hairyrapunzel: |
johnw47:Not at all-I don't think he knows his real name.. johnw47: |
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Janosky is just an angry person-just like the rest of them, most of us are here to learn from each other-but their own agenda's is to turn the truth away from the believers, it doesn't matter how many times we have shared the good news to the public, these are the deceivers, who is trying so hard to destroy the Word of God. Praise the Lord we have a strong army-good men and women studying and believing the truth! The JW's are rude and argumentative, I couldn't settle with these disrespectful JW's to enter into my home-not even for a minute. These have no morals, I expect Christians to behave much more then these guy's do! Every time we have shared the Word of God-they have tried to rip it down like there's no tomorrow, and these are the guy's who claim to be Christian!! Their learning skills are below zero-Janosky's doesn't fit in anywhere-he maybe someone who is lonely, who's sitting at home-wanting someone to like him-He is someone who can't wear sheep clothing, and there's good reason why he can't-he's a wolf.. johnw47: |
You don't like these cartoons, but the Watchtower magazine are full of cartoons pictures-so what is the difference? I even wonder why the Watchtower Placed A Masonic Cross In Their Cartoon http://imgur.com/a/AQtwM Is it because behind the seines the Watchtower are really Masons... TATIME: |
No-one is beating you up over the truth-it doesn't matter which way you would like to twist and turn the scriptures around to suit only you, nothing you write down makes any sense anyway-you can't win against the Word of God-you can't be right trying to prove these verses are wrong-it doesn't matter how Jesus address His God from other scriptures-we are focused on Isaiah, Malachi, Mark, Matthew, and you have no scripture to back your theories up that can go against these chapters! {John 5:43, John 7:16} I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. Using these both verses, still doesn't claim your theory.. It doesn't matter which way you would like to turn this around-it is clear what the scriptures tells us, a Child understands them, but you don't, {Isaiah 40:3, Mark 1:3, Matthew 3:3, Malachi 3:1} is pretty obvious who this verse is talking about, The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord: The last book of the Old Testament-Malachi was written at least 400 years before the New testament, "Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord {adonai}, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, He is coming," says the Lord [YHWH] of hosts. Notice that according to the quotes above, John the Baptist was sent to prepare the way for Jehovah. {Isaiah 40:3} says that John is to clear the way for YHWH {Jehovah}. John the baptist is the messenger! In Malachi it is God who says that "he will clear the way before Me." Yet we see that the fulfillment of these verses is found in the arrival of Jesus. Clearly, the Bible prophecies that John the Baptist will prepare the way of YHWH {Jehovah}; yet it is Jesus who arrives on the scene. How can this be? The simple answer is that Jesus is divine; that is, He is the fullness of deity in bodily form {Colossians 2:9, also John 1:1,14} tell us "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." The fulfillment of John the Baptist as the messenger and Jesus as YHWH make these scriptures clear for us to understand. Warning if anybody is searching for a new home-Do not be deceived by the Jehovah's Witness organization that would have you deny the true nature of Christ. Only God can save us, and only God can fulfill the prophecy given in {Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1} Janosky: |
He had already got it right-it's you that needs to get it right-and more importantly believe it's right! TATIME: |
Does anyone hold a bible-or are they just posing for the camera, holding up Watchtower magazines and banners! I would still rather read the cartoons-the stories a better to look at, and so true.. And the last time I had seen a JW walk down my driveway-I told him about the NWT bible-and where it tells us Jesus is the true God-he was stocked-I haven't seen them since, matter of fact I haven't seen them come back to my neighbourhood! I had always believed the truth sets us free-as God the Father He protects us from being deceived, especially if we train ourselves to study His Word! The only time I see the JW's come on the scene, is when those being deceived are those that don't study their bibles-they prefer to believe the lie rather then the truth. The Lord said: Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. {Non bible readers, don't know the difference between light and darkness-they seek love in the wrong places-which is outside the square..} TATIME: |
But the JW's aren't real in my neighbourhood.. {2 Corinthians 6:11-18} O Corinthians! We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open. You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections. Now in return for the same {I speak as to children}, you also be open. Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people.” Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.” “I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty.” TATIME: |
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