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 Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:08pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
You might as well stay with the JW's, you are no good to yourself, let alone to anybody else' that needs to hear the truth about Christ.. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:43pm On Apr 20, 2019*. Modified: 1:03pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
Of over 2 billion Christians in the world, less than 30% will ever read through the entire Bible. The fact is over 82% of Christian only read their Bibles on Saturday-Sundays while in church. A little over 20 years ago, Gallup released the results of a major study indicating that 86% claimed to be Christian, although only 70% of these admitted to being “born again” according to biblical measure. In recent studies, the Pew research indicates that only 25% now attend church any given Saturday-Sunday, significantly down from 47% in 1990. The study also shows that, in evangelical churches throughout the world, statistics show 36% of those who attend church weekly indicate that believing in Jesus Christ is the only true way to Heaven. While a shocking 57% of Christians believe other religions can lead to eternal life.. One of the main reasons why Christians don’t read their bibles is, only 22% of them believe the Bible is fully inspired by God Himself, and written by men who were divinely appointed by the Lord almighty. And over 1 in 4 so called Christians believe the bible to be a book written by mere men, not at all the word of God. If we were to survey Christians at churches around the world, most people would agree that they need to read their Bibles. They understand that it is both required and good for them. But the sad truth is, many do not. This lands us in that strange place of knowing, but yet still avoiding, what is good and beneficial for us. Most people when asked about their Bible reading say: I have been really busy-plus I can't be bothered, This may be the truth; However, it is not the reason. I think we can distinguish between realities and reasons. Those same people who are really busy do have the time to eat food and sleep, or hang out at Kingdom hall. And yet I know people who have their entire day {and evening} mapped out for them. They are extremely busy; yet they still read and study their Bibles. In order to do anything of value consistently it takes discipline, However, if we sit back and do not live with intentionality we will not be regularly in the Word of God. Do you think an Olympic athlete hits snooze on their alarm when training? Never! Do they not get tired? Of course they do. But there is a critical point when discipline defeats the desire of the moment. It is when the mind speaks to the heart and says, “Hey, I’m in charge. It is time to get up even if I don’t feel like it.” Discipline takes effort. We don’t recline into discipline we must work at it. Is there anything more important than godliness to discipline ourselves for? Paul tells Timothy to discipline himself for the purpose of godliness {1 Timothy 4:7-8} |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:56am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:Make up your mind-which one are you, a believer, or a JW? How does one become a JW' when he is obviously a discriminator against Black people! And surely you discriminate, a prayer-and a response to say it's prefect.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:32am On Apr 20, 2019*. Modified: 12:09pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:  Lost and Denied!Maximus69:Still confused O blindness one, faith in Christ means life-it doesn't matter where I am, Jesus said: He will never leave me, it doesn't matter if death faces me everyday-I know the Lord is with me, I find happiness wherever the Lord is by my side.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:18am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Prefect: johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:05am On Apr 20, 2019 |
No there is a great blunder in your reason of understanding, JW's will only find happiness within the Watchtower-where in Christ we will find happiness wherever we go, as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death 'I fear no evil, because the Lord is with me.. {Psalm 23:4} Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:08am On Apr 19, 2019 |
To be honest bro, if the elders knew Janosky was behaving with hatred as he does, they would throw him out of kingdom hall. What do the JW's do, after they can't get their message through-they black list us and move on.. Janosky/oneJ belong to a cult-the differences between a cult and Christ, Is, cult's will never find their true happiness outside their domain-while in Christ we will always find our happiness everywhere--outside or inside our domain! johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:31am On Apr 17, 2019 |
Janosky when was the last time Jehovah spoke with you? I can just picture saint Janosky witnessing at his best, pressed black pant's, black shiny shoes, white shirt, black tie, ready for his daily routine carrying his daily watchtower magazines-putting on his daily performance to face the crowd, praising Jehovah expecting a reward with works against Johnw and brocab. Not knowing the Word and denying it's power and the Holy Spirit-Janosky walks this earth blind and destitute-his words are ugly, dead man walking, stinky-dirty and smelly, dying at his best, slowly but surely his torment for eternity is standing at the door, unless he turns from his ways, repent, To God Our Savour Jesus Christ Our Lord and everlasting God forevermore.. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:16am On Apr 16, 2019 |
They don't have to admit it, Satan's throne is in the Watchtower, claiming Janosky and he, are brothers.. johnw47: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 12:47am On Apr 16, 2019*. Modified: 9:45pm On Aug 08, 2019 |
If I was to witness to a Roman Catholic, I wouldn't beat around the bush, I will be up front with him/her about all truth, I would direct them to the net, where there is so much info to choose from, I would help them to have some what understanding concerning the bible, not only in Word but in power and in the Holy Spirit.. I would show them the bible 'forbids continually offering His body as a Sacrifice, I would show them Jesus is the Eternal once for all Sacrifice. {I would point out the facts from different reviews, Note: All Bible quotations below are taken from a Roman Catholic Bible} {Hebrews 7:22, 27} "...Jesus [also] became the guarantee of an [even] better covenant...He has no need, as did the high priests, to offer sacrifice day after day, first for His own sins and then for those of the people; He did that once for all when He offered Himself". {The New American Bible, Catholic Bible Press, 1986} {Hebrews 9:11-15}"But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come to be, passing through the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made by hands {Heaven} ...He entered once for all into the sanctuary...with His own blood...For this reason, He is mediator of a new covenant." {The New American Bible, Catholic Bible Press, 1986} {Hebrews 9:24-26} "For Christ did not enter into a sanctuary made by hands...but heaven itself, that He might now appear before God on our behalf. Not that He might offer Himself repeatedly...But now, once for all, He has appeared at the end of the ages to take away sin by His sacrifice." {The New American Bible, Catholic Bible Press, 1986} {Hebrews 10:11-14} "Every priest stands daily at his ministry, offering frequently those same sacrifices that can never take away sins. But this One {Christ} offered one sacrifice for sins, and took His seat forever at the right hand of God...For by one offering He has made perfect forever those who are being consecrated." {The New American Bible, Catholic Bible Press, 1986} {1 Peter 3:18} "For Christ also suffered for sins once...that He might lead you to God". {The New American Bible, Catholic Bible Press, 1986} {Hebrews 6:6} "For it is impossible in the case of those who have once been enlightened ... and then have fallen away, to bring them to repentance again, since they are recrucifying the Son of God for themselves and holding Him up to contempt". {The New American Bible, Catholic Bible Press, 1986} Notice, in this last Scripture, St. Paul's statement that repentance is impossible for anyone who is continually recrucifying Jesus Christ again and again! Jesus Christ died once and for all {eternally}. He is not to be recrucified again and again for any reason. As long as He is being so recrucified, it is impossible to come to repentance. Therefore, any person who continually practices the Mass cannot be saved as long as they continue!! Finally, note again that we are quoting a Roman Catholic Bible.!! Note again that the Scriptures quoted above, are from a Roman Catholic Bible. Number how many times these Scriptures use the phrase, "once for all". The Bible absolutely forbids Jesus' sacrifice to be repeated or reenacted!! CRUCIFIX HOLDS JESUS UP TO PUBLIC SHAME But, {Hebrews 6:6} also clearly forbids anyone from "holding Him up to contempt". The Crucifix, so prominently displayed, certainly holds Jesus up to public contempt. Certainly, no form of execution devised in the annals of human history can compare to the Imperial Roman cross for both physical cruelty and emotional pain. Dying on a cross subjected the human body to the greatest physical pain possible, simply because it assaulted every part of the body. But, the emotional anguish was nearly as great as the physical. The victim was stripped naked {the artist's depiction of Jesus wearing a loin cloth is incorrect}. The condemned was routinely beaten, sometimes so severely that sometimes his internal organs were hanging out. His face usually was not recognizable because of the beating. Roman soldiers and onlookers usually taunted the dying victim, adding to the torment. Our Beloved Jesus Christ was subjected to all these things, and more. He was subjected to being hung nude on the Cross in front of all the women who had loved Him so much in life. He was subjected to the taunts of His mortal enemies, the Pharisees, who had plotted to kill Him for so long. Jesus was subjected to the humiliation of the sign above His head, proclaiming this innocent man, as the "King of the Jews". Finally, Jesus had been forced to wear His "kingly" crown, the Crown of Thorns. The shame and agony was so great that even the sun hid its face and Father God turned His back so He would not have to watch the spectacle. Jesus Christ was not only painfully executed on the Cross, He was thoroughly shamed as well. His shame was a significant part of His payment for our sin. The writer to the {Hebrews, 12:2} thus stated, "...For the sake of the joy that lay before Him, He endured the cross, despising its shame..." In this Scripture, the Holy Spirit, speaking through the writer to the Hebrews, has revealed that the Godhead considered the cross to be shameful. It is no wonder that this shameful spectacle was to be done only "once for all", never to be repeated again. And, it is no wonder that the Holy Spirit, speaking through the writer to the Hebrews, warned that no person can be brought to repentance and salvation as long as they are continually holding Jesus Christ up to public shame. But, the Roman Catholic Church holds Jesus up to public shame daily in the Mass. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 11:10pm On Apr 15, 2019*. Modified: 3:34pm On Apr 16, 2019 |
The Catholic Church rejects the sufficiency and supremacy of Christ’s priesthood, and grants to the pope roles that Christ Himself declared would belong to the Holy Spirit, It is therefore blasphemy to ascribe to the pope the title of “Vicar of Christ.” In the Catholic Church, the vicar is the representative of a higher-ranking official, with all of the same authority and power that official has. Calling the pope the "Vicar of Christ" implies that he has the same power and authority that Christ had over the church. In {Matthew 16:18} Jesus Christ is the one who says He will build His church; He never delegates this power. By claiming the title of Vicar of Christ, the reigning pope is, in fact, promising to do what Christ promised. Jesus does indeed predict a “vicar” in the sense of a “replacement” for His physical presence here on earth. However, this “vicar of Christ” is not a Priest, High Priest, Bishop, or Pope. The only biblical “Vicar of Christ” is the Holy Spirit. {John 14:26} declares, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” {John 14:16-18} proclaims, “And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever — the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you know Him, for He lives with you and will be in you. The Catholic's believe the opposite, taking scripture out of context they believe the Pope has full rights to declare to be called the vicar of Christ through Peter. The title is derived from Jesus' words in {John 21:16-17} to Peter, "Feed my lambs . . . Take care of my sheep." This, according to Catholic reasoning, defines Peter as the Prince of the Apostles, the first pope, and fulfills the words of Jesus in {Matthew 16:18-19} {calling Peter the rock upon which Jesus will build His church} The truth is the Holy Spirit is our Counselor, Teacher {John 14:26} He guides us into all truth {John 16:13} {Acts 4:12} The Bible says of Jesus that there is no other name by which men can be saved. It also say: In {1 Timothy 2:5} There is only one mediator between God and men, and that is Jesus Christ.. We can now see that there is no biblical foundation to prove the Pope is the vicar of Christ, claiming to be a representative of Christ on earth. No man could do what Christ has done, or what Christ is now doing on behalf of humankind. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 10:04pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Working together as One, but not the same person-trying to deceive Janosky with the truth-so that Janosky may see the light through Janosky darkness.. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:16pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
We must be twins.. johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 1:12pm On Apr 15, 2019*. Modified: 1:11am On Apr 16, 2019 |
Even the demons believe and tremble-the world knows His Name, becoming born again is a lot more than Just knowing the Lord's Name, we have agreed to accept the Holy Spirit-we know them by their fruit-the Muslims believe Jesus existed-the cults believe He exists, who told you, you are saved, and if saved, Why then 'turn to the Priest to forgive your sins at confession-if you truly believed Jesus as Lord and savour.. "Do this in memory of me" Why do we say Mass is a sacrifice when the Letter to the Hebrews indicates that Christ offered only one sacrifice on the cross? {Hebrews 9:25-28} of the Letter to the Hebrews addresses the sacrifice of Jesus: read, “Not that [Christ} might offer Himself there again and again, as the high priest enters year after year into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own; if that were so He would have had to suffer death over and over from the creation of the world. But now He has appeared at the end of the ages to take away sins once for all by His sacrifice, at Mass Jesus is the priest and the victim and your Holy communion.. This do in remembrance of me." With these words ringing in our ears, we regularly celebrate communion. As we drink the cup and eat the bread, we reflect on Christ's sacrifice and look forward to his return.. Through the Eucharistic celebration Christians remember both Christ's sacrifice of himself on the cross and his commission of the apostles at the Last Supper. ... Taking communion doesn’t make you a Christian. It doesn’t save your soul or get you to heaven. {1 Corinthians 11:27-31} God actually warns us about taking communion without considering what it means and why we’re doing it. The intent is not for us to mindlessly perform a ritual, but to intentionally set aside time to remember what Jesus has done and why He did it!! 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 11:59am On Apr 13, 2019*. Modified: 12:14pm On Apr 13, 2019 |
Yes" Jesus believed His Church is the One true Church--Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. ''Jesus said: on this Rock, which is the Word of God ''I will build My Church.. 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 8:02am On Apr 13, 2019*. Modified: 12:19pm On Apr 13, 2019 |
Janosky:Just as we read the scriptures, the early believers were essentially in house Churches-Jesus said: when two or three are gathered in His name, He is in the mist of them. How many do you need to fill up a Kingdom hall building, before you realise what really matters exist, when just two or three are gathered in Jesus Name, He is standing in our mist? Janosky:{Matthew 6:6} But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. So "Yes" is the answer-we can share time with ourselves and with the invisible God alone..Try it sometime.. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 3:00pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
The one true church is the universal body of believers everywhere who have given their hearts to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. That is the only true church {Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:18} The Bible teaches us that we must maintain the unity of the Spirit {Ephesians 4:3} until we come into unity of faith {Ephesians 4:13} In other words, spiritual unity is something that all Christians can have. Complete unity of knowledge is something for the future. The fact that there are many different denominations reflects a lack of knowledge in the church. In many instances, it also reflects pride. People are unwilling to meet together with others and submit their concepts to the body of Christ. And many denominations have come about because of doctrinal error. What begins as a beautiful and fresh revelation of God often degenerates into lukewarmness and then into fighting what God is doing. Many times those who claim to know God persecute those who really do. It becomes necessary for the Lord Himself to come back with a fresh revelation to break through the solidification of the orthodox believers. This happened in Israel. Israel had lost sight of the Lawgiver in their exaltation of the Law. They killed Jesus, who was the manifestation of God, in the name of their law. In the Middle Ages, when the church had gained political as well as religious power, it began to grow corrupt. Then a reform movement came about through Martin Luther and others, who were persecuted severely by the church. Later on, Lutherans began to persecute Calvinists. Then Calvinists began to persecute Anabaptists, who brought out truth from God on baptism. Still later, Baptists persecuted Pentecostals, who brought out a different truth about the baptism in the Holy Spirit. There have been succeeding waves of truth that God wants to restore to the church. These revelations of truth have been the seed for some of the major denominations which many times began as despised and persecuted sects. The new Christian needs to find a fellowship of believers who love the Lord and who believe the Bible. There are Episcopal priests who love God with all their hearts, who are filled with the Holy Spirit, who serve Jesus, and whose churches are beautiful places of worship. In some Catholic churches born again Christians could feel at home. There are Baptist churches where members love God, Presbyterian churches where the members love God, as well as Methodist, Assemblies of God, Nazarene, and Holiness churches and many others where the members love God. When you are looking for a church home, the first thing to do is to ask the Lord to guide you. Ask Him where He wants you. Find a church that is true to the Bible, one where the people love Jesus Christ and serve Him as Lord. Are the doctrine, teaching, and practice of that church in accordance with the Word of God? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 2:20pm On Apr 12, 2019*. Modified: 3:14pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
It's simple-One must be born again before he enter into the Kingdom of God. So - 32,999 000 it add's up to one true bible believing Church.. {Ephesians 4:11-13} And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: {Ephesians 2:8} We are made up together in one accord saved by Grace through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--made up together to edify each other in the One true Church! 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 11:39pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
{Ephesians 4:5} One Lord, One faith, One baptism. {People coming together as a Church in one accord} {Romans 12:1} Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God. {The Church is People coming together as a living sacrifice} {Romans 12:4;5} - Members of the church are to all be like members of the same human body {The Church is made up of one mind, one heart and one soul in Christ} {Romans 12:6,7,8} - Every Christian should use his or her gifts selflessly for the benefit of the rest of the church {Some pastors, some evangelist, some teachers and made up together to edify the Church} |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 7:20pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 7:12pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
Non denominational Christians such as myself are usually the ones who love God and find themselves outside of a traditional church-if we were to study the scriptures-we would find "Jesus always teaches Kingdom, "not building. The Gospel is all about the Kingdom of God-it is Jesus’ central teaching, this kingdom He speaks about is not a where but a when. It is the state of the world when people acknowledge God; when God is honored and worshipped and respected—the Kingdom is present. Throughout the Gospels, you can find Jesus teaching on the characteristics of His Kingdom people as they reflect the character of God in the world. The Church was never about brick and mortar. It was always greater than that. It was about a way of being in the world. How is the Church built it's simple the people are the building blocks. Jesus feeds the 5,000. A crowd has been listening to Jesus teach on a remote hillside, 'the gathering there is a mix of the invested, the curious and the skeptical. No sanctuary or liturgy; only Jesus speaking about God in real-time and then sharing a meal with those gathered on the hillside. That would be the model throughout the New Testament: Gather. Eat. Share. Remember me. Live.'' The book of Hebrews says that we don’t need a middle man. Writing to Jewish believers in Jesus, the author makes it clear that a human high priest is no longer needed as a liaison between ourselves and God —that God was not encountered only in the temple. Jesus gives us each direct access to Divinity. The Church grows without a building campaign. The early believers were essentially in-house churches, where immediate family, extended family and friends were already living in deep, meaningful community together. They didn’t have to rent out space and a sound system and start service planning. They were already living life together organically and so they didn’t need to create a destination to foster community. These groups absorbed the new converts, but there is no evidence of the healthy evolution of these communities into organized churches. The only mention we have is in the book of Revelation, where large, opulent churches are being chastised for their corruption and apathy. God is with us-Jesus says where two or three are gathered He is present. Two or three—not 40 or 150 or 6,000. Not an auditorium with a speaker, a band and dozens of rows of chairs. This is Emmanuel “God with us.” Jesus never promises that with size or organization that there would be more of His presence. He didn’t leave building instructions or establish an organizational structure or provide liturgical templates. He affirmed that his people and his presence were the only necessary ingredients. They would come to the table together, and He would take a seat there with them. Your kitchen table, maybe at the bar, a bench seat at the park, maybe a coffee shop. He is present there. "He said so. Notice the Apostle Paul tells us we are the Temple. In his letter to the Corinthians, Paul writes to tell Christians in that city that God’s presence is not just above and around them but within them. They are the very “Body of Christ” on earth, they are the “temple of the Holy Spirit”—living, breathing sanctuaries. The idea of them needing to visit a specific place to have proximity to God was now ludicrous. They were the place. They needed only to go inward. This is the heart of the Church then. It still is; not where they gather, but as they gather. Jesus tells the disciples to remember Him. At their final meal before His death, Jesus offers bread and wine as a symbol of his coming sacrifice. He then asks them to remember him when they break bread together in the future. He is not telling them to establish a weekly worship service or to create a rigid liturgy or to institute a sacrament. He is commanding them not to forget Him; to live together and to eat and to remember. No sanctuary is necessary for this. This is a fully portable experience. The truth is Jesus was teaching something very different from what the word “church” means to us today. We’ve grown up in the building and the system and the tradition, so we believe that this is the Church. But the Church as a place you visit for an hour on Saturday or Sunday where God shows up, or where community can solely be found—simply isn’t Biblical. Jesus’ ministry was about de-centralizing religion, so that the people carried it, not the synagogue or temple or the sanctuary. Again, you may find that building comforting or edifying, and you may find inspiration and wisdom there. That may be spiritual community for you. But don’t assume that this building has the market cornered on any of those things, and don’t cheapen the spiritual journey of those outside of the building, by acting as if everything found there cannot also be found beyond it. It can. Over and over the Bible makes this clear. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 12:28am On Apr 09, 2019 |
We are blessed to be saved, but we are not all Catholic! {Ephesians 4:11-16} And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: We are either Jew or Gentile=so Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, CHRIST. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work. 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 1:59pm On Apr 08, 2019*. Modified: 2:21pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
9inches:This is what I have been saying all along-someone who claims to be religious is practicing what he learns/ Someone claiming to be religious, and not practicing religion is talking into space.. 9inches:Honoring to be somebody, won't get you anywhere unless you have the evidence to prove your skills--once somebody have a relationship with God-there is never a self righteous retirement. The Lord said: until the end, {Matthew 28:20} Teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. People just don't retire from their faith, if the disciples retired who would deliver the message, what will happen to the Vatican if the Pope's decided to retire, the Church couldn't stand alone! 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 6:53pm On Apr 05, 2019*. Modified: 3:39am On Apr 06, 2019 |
I will do my best hoping you may have some sort of a idea-what it actually means. Your Catholic right? So you believe if you baptised 10 babies as Catholic's, are they still Catholic's even thru 'while they grow, they never walked with God, prayed the rosaries, never went to Church-never followed Church tradition-never bowed before Mary but lived their lives like God didn't exist? Do Catholic's claim these are still saved-even thru they didn't obey their Catholic faith-"Or do you believe they still have a place in Heaven to be with the Lord, because their parents made that choice for them.. Or would you agree-these are lost souls-so the baptism of babies couldn't be counted as true Catholics-until they have proving their Catholic faith. If we were to read {Matthew 22:10-14} The King asked the servants to go out and ask the kings guest to come to the wedding-but the guest made excuses-not to come-{Would you agree these were the Pharisees claiming to be some what religious refusing to come when the Lord called them} And then the Lord told the servants to go out unto the highways, and gather together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. {So these servants went out into the highways, apostle Paul with Barnabas, and others preach to the Gentiles, after they had gathered them together, they believed, both good and bad, "known or unknown". The Gospel ministry is the means of gathering souls to Christ, and to attend his ordinances, and into his churches;} “But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment? {Would you agree the man did not have a wedding garment' because his heart didn't believe faith existed; but he intimated himself as a man of God, only because he was taught by his parents-who were taught by the Church, by making a decision for him, to be baptised at child birth-he will still spend eternity with the Lord, no matter what life he chooses} 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 4:56pm On Apr 05, 2019*. Modified: 5:20pm On Apr 05, 2019 |
Maximus69:It wasn't God viewpoint it's your viewpoint-so now you have a change of heart, from the same day verdict about Adam dying, Adam didn't die on that same day-he had children, and grand children-until he was 930 years old-this is what the bible say's. The Watchtower tried to prophesy the things of God-and they were wrong every time-and now you-are trying to tell me what God's viewpoint's are. So am I going to believe the scriptures, "Or do I believe you? {2 Peter 3:8} Peter does not say that one day is a thousand years; he says that one day is like a thousand years. In other words, he is using figurative language to make his point. The point is not that we should interpret the word day as “a thousand years” everywhere we find it in Scripture; rather, the point is that the passing of time has no bearing on God’s faithfulness to His promises. He is “the same yesterday and today and forever” {Hebrews 13:8} Besides, the day-age theory requires much more than 6,000 years in the creation “week.” Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 6:15am On Apr 04, 2019*. Modified: 6:38am On Apr 04, 2019 |
Maximus69:I think it's your own view point-if you really believe Adam died on the same day 'then explain this-Dr Do Little? {Genesis 4:1-2} Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man.” Later she gave birth to his brother Abel. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:21am On Apr 03, 2019*. Modified: 2:42am On Apr 03, 2019 |
Maximus69:Again you need to test the Word-and study.... In {Genesis 2:17} God tells Adam regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, “in the day that you eat from it you shall surely die! Is this saying that Adam would die physically at the moment he ate from the tree? If so, then since Adam physically died 930 years later? Obviously ''he will surely die-doesn't mean he will die as soon as he ate the fruit.. So, either God was in error or man’s interpretation is in error. Since God cannot lie {"As you may think He does"} {Hebrews 6:18} then fallible humans must be making the mistake. It is obvious Adam and Eve didn't die as soon as they ate of the fruit-they began to die and would return to dust {Genesis 3:19} If they were meant to die right then, the text should have simply used “dead, died, or die” and not beginning to die or surely die.. The Bible has a great deal to say about death and, more importantly, what happens after death. Physical death and spiritual death are both a separation of one thing from another. Physical death is the separation of the soul from the body, and spiritual death is the separation of the soul from God. Some skeptics haven't the slightest idea about different types of life, nor different types of death. A person can be physically alive and spiritually dead {Ephesians 2:1, 5}and vice versa {Matthew 22:32} When they sinned. {Genesis 3:7} Adam was physically alive and spiritually dead after he sinned, but God didn't give up on him-God made us because He loved us, and He wanted us to love Him in return-the Bible says that God planned our salvation even “before the creation of the world” {Ephesians 1:4} So yes even you have a chance to be saved, just like God saved Adam.. And the good news is that we don’t need to fear God’s judgment any longer, because Jesus Christ opened Heaven’s door to us by His death on the cross. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 12:32am On Apr 03, 2019 |
That is right' those who believe, so the baptism of babies couldn't be counted as true Catholics-just as you said: those who believe, so psychically and mentally, people are lost until the people decide to believe--so this proves the numbers of people in Churches stay empty until such time.. 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Witness To Loved Ones Who Are Roman Catholics by brocab: 12:17am On Apr 03, 2019 |
Well I hope this may help you open your eye's to common sense-it's the way the Lord said: it will happen-Churches are empty-meaning people aren't taught to know the truth--if we had 50 people who claim to be religious-2 out of 50 may believe God, while the 48 left haven't the slightest idea if God exist.. There are people hungry for the Word of God-while the rest of the world can't be bothered-and what does the Church do 'Nothing" people are losing faith, instead of proper instruction in which believers are fed with the solid meat of the Word, with emphasis on biblical doctrine and proper exposition of key biblical themes and teachings, all we seem to get in so many churches today are topical sermons, with pep talks with one or two verses thrown in along the way. Sunday morning sermons tend to be feel-good, how-to chats, emphasising how the Christian can be successful, happy, confident, and have a good time. {2 Timothy 3-5} Men are lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy.. A major reason why Christians today are so biblically illiterate, have little or no understanding of basic biblical doctrine, and are so easily swept off their feet into error 'is because of this basic lack of Christian instruction from the Church.. These day's the preachers promise people their ‘best life now’ and give them motivational speeches, upbeat homilies, and the like, the systematic instruction and teaching of the Word of God, its core doctrinal truths, and basic Christian doctrines are almost never heard any more in so many churches today. Open your eye's it's common sense-it's the way the Lord said: it will happen-why the Church is empty.. 9inches:The Word of God tells us this will happen-so this is what it means 9inches: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:07pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
It would make life a little easier if you try reading your bible--Adam is with God in Spirit! {Genesis 2:7} And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. {Genesis 3:19}God said to Adam, "By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, because from it you were taken. For you are dust and to dust you shall return" {Ecclesiastes 12:7} “Our bodies will return to the dust of the earth, and the breath of life will go back to God, who gave it to us.” When God receives His spirit back, our bodies return to the dust of the earth. Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:44am On Apr 02, 2019 |
Since you find this so hard to pick up your bible to learn these simple tacks-allow me to help support your laziness by refusing to know the scriptures!! {Genesis 2:7} Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being. {1 Corinthians 2:11} God gives human beings a spirit that, not conscious of itself, works in concert with the human brain to form the human mind, giving us the ability to understand language, writing, math, and the like. Paul explains: “For what man knows the things of a man except [by] the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except [by] the Spirit of God” {Ecclesiastes 12:7} To answer the question, we can turn to the book of Ecclesiastes. Solomon wrote that when we die, “the spirit will return to God who gave it” So at death, one’s spirit returns to God, while the body on earth decays or is destroyed. {James 2:26} "The body without the spirit is dead." {Job 27:3}"The spirit of God is in my nostrils." {1 Corinthians 15:47} The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 2:13am On Apr 02, 2019*. Modified: 2:58am On Apr 02, 2019 |
Janosky:While in the mean time-The JW's can't force us physically, but mentally their actions hate us because we refuse their message. Janosky: 1 Like |
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