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 Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:25am On Nov 07, 2018 |
How old did you say you are "5" not bad! Did mummy write this for you.. Are you serious? What "5" year old's ask these sort of questions, I suppose one that is confused' just as much as we are, about your denomination.. So do Spirit's die? Or does our flesh die? Think about it... {1 John 4:2} This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. {So in Heaven was He Spirit "before He became flesh?} haywizzy007: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:29pm On Nov 06, 2018*. Modified: 12:08am On Nov 07, 2018 |
Being a non denomination, means, we don't come under false rules and regulations, false doctrines, and false Churches, Churches such as yours, you claim to know Jesus, but deny His power. {2 Timothy 3:5-6} Having a form of godliness but denying its power. Turn away from such as these! They are the kind who worm their way into households and captivate vulnerable women who are weighed down with sins and led astray by various passions,…{Door to door ring a bell} I am non denominational-and thank God I am, the disciples didn't build Churches made of brick and mortar-they built up people, filling them with the Word of God to spread it to all the nations.. Jesus said: go out unto all the nations and preach His gospel, how do we do that 'if we sit around winching about other Church buildings all day long-the world knows it own kind, it copies, it's the opposite of God's creation, the world is deceiving, people desire the thing's the world offers, the world can only give, what the people want, good and bad are in everybody, claiming to be Christians, without fruit 'are liars from the beginning.... Christians are known by what they believe, "Christ" bible believing Christians" {2 Timothy 14:15} Study and do your best to present yourself to God approved, a workman [tested by trial] who has no reason to be ashamed, accurately handling and skillfully teaching the word of truth. Jesus also said: many are called, but few are chosen. There are two many people in the world claiming to be Christian, but never really making some kind of a effort to prove they walk or talk as one, one reason they commonly use is through baby baptism-they are taught this gives them rights to be called a Christian, but do nothing about their claims, the Pope uses by our good works, is a sure way to get into Heaven, the Pope declares Jesus isn't needed, or becoming part of a JW denomination is a sure way spending eternity with Jehovah. Three of the above ways are deafeningly not true, baby baptism, or through good works, or becoming part of a denomination doesn't give us enough evidence to prove these are Christians. "None of the three practice to believe in bible truth! You never know, if you pray hard enough you may even be voted in, to become one of the 144000.. By their fruit we know them, your fruit doesn't show us you believe in Christ, deafeningly it doesn't show us you are even Christian: you don't accept the bible, not your own bible. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:08am On Nov 06, 2018 |
{John 1:1} NWT Bible In the beginning was the Word, a and the Word was with God, b and the Word was a god.c johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:02am On Nov 06, 2018 |
Some weeks earlier these JW's were begging for you, I suppose we would be like their elder daddies teaching these bad Children from right to wrong. Just listening to the JW's about their false religious beliefs, 'man" these guy's are lost, I just find it hard to believe they actually believe they have some rights to call themselves Christians. They really hate God's Word, every time I read their page, I can picture their hatred against Christ! "Jehovah means everything to these people, as soon as we mention Jesus name, they don't give it a second thought 'they turn around like wolves ready to pounce, just like their father {John 8:44} johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:19am On Nov 06, 2018*. Modified: 1:40am On Nov 06, 2018 |
I am not supported by my pastor-nor am I supporting them about you, lets answer your question, about weather or not! Are we worshipping the same God, "what do you think? I don't believe we are connected to one God-you claim to be a Christian and yet you practice another doctrine. Your knowledge is very poor, it shows you are deafeningly not walking in the Spirit, it shows the Watchtower is not teaching you how to walk in the Spirit, walking in the Spirit is believing-you are more focused on rebuking, then you are believing, Atheist are no different. It's simple to understand, when the Spirit of the Lord is teaching you, 'but you don't have the Spirit of the Lord teaching you, if we were listening to the same God-we would be on the same page. But we are not on the same page.. So really this would be your answer-we are not seeking after the same God-to call yourself a true Christian! TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:53am On Nov 06, 2018 |
I can't wait! When are we going to tell you the nature of God is a "what  Maybe your god is a mystery, maybe if you knew God, you would know He is living.. He is, He was, and He is coming back..But if you don't know this, then yes 'God is a mystery to you.. haywizzy007: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:13am On Nov 06, 2018*. Modified: 12:46am On Nov 06, 2018 |
So there is another question now to be answered I am sure we have answered it time and time again "Anyway did I pass? Was my score high ranking on your first question? Who is Yahweh, my answer was the Watchtowers answer-With Us is God.... {Matthew 2:23} NWT “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im·manʹu·el,”u which means, when translated, “With Us Is God.”v I suppose we all have to start at the beginning somewhere, usually it's at birth-when we start sucking on Mama's titties. Well the bible is focused basely on these same lines, we come to God as baby Christians sucking on warm milk-always learning to grow into little Children, eventually we become men and women having a little more mutuality in God. {Learning is like eating food to help us grow-but if we don't eat 'we die} The bible is based on these same lines, the more we learn the scriptures the more we live by them, the more we understand them 'the more we are being fed into maturity, the more we are growing to know Our Father, the more we learn how to listen to Him, how He speaks through the Word-and how we know Him in Spirit and in truth. {John 4:24} God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”… We encouraged you and comforted you as we urged you to walk in a manner worthy of God, who calls you into His own kingdom and glory. {Most religions believe they have the power to call people into their personal kingdom, they use the Christian slogan' because no other name on Earth under the Earth and above the Earth-can draw in the crowds as good as the name Jesus} "Only In Jesus name His Church is establish! "Churches that have used God the Fathers name alone-to build their Church-have falling into corruption. "The Catholic Church was built upon Mary's foundation's, Watchtower's foundations is built on Jehovah, both Churches stands without the Spirit of Christ 'because of unbelief. { John 14:9} Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? {I can understand a Child still sucking on milk and wouldn't have the slightest idea, how to understand it! But for you, the JW's are deafeningly Philips! "Philip had walked with Jesus, talked with Jesus-he saw unbelieving miracles done by Jesus, he seen the dead raise, the blind see, and the deaf hear, and the JW's still ask show us the Father} Jesus said: "Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? {It is pretty obvious what Jesus said here, He is' and the Father are One "So how can you say show us the Father} I do understand it takes Children time to learn-sometimes it takes them longer to learn-not because they can't learn, sometimes they may not have the technology to learn {'But Christians who want to learn 'do have that technology-Spirituality and knowledgeable 'it's bible technology} OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:23am On Nov 05, 2018 |
We have always answered your question who Yahweh is, "With Us is God" it's your mental state of mind that won't allow you to agree upon such understanding! I realise some words can be tricky, and sometimes when we don't understand something it can be frustrating, "lets say in your language your name is OneJ, in my country your name sounds like dum dum, in another land it may sound silly It isn't rocket science to work out how the scriptures sound, the net is opened for all to see, if you don't understand what sounds-then try to understand it by Word. It doesn't matter how many times we have given you the Word of God-how many times we have answered who Yahweh is-you seem to let yourself go into a blind rage. Many Christians speak in tongues, JW's also have a new language, it appears beyond measure, in English we call it abuse against Christ. There is no other name above Jesus name.. {Philippines 2:8-10} And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to death—even death on a cross. Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,… ''Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. This is all we need to believe, there is no name above Jesus name on earth, under the Earth, and above the Earth, who can save us-Jesus Christ is Lord... OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:14pm On Nov 04, 2018*. Modified: 12:46am On Nov 05, 2018 |
OneJ:OneJ why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me!…{John 8:43-45} Denominations from all sorts of different religions believe that there is one God; they do well: the demons also believe, and tremble. {Revelation 1:4-7, 1:8} "From Him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 'And has made us kings and priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion, for ever and ever, Amen. Behold he is coming with clouds, and every eye shall see him... Even so, Amen.” Even those who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. {Jesus} So shall it be! Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord" God, who is and was and is to come—the Almighty. {Listen and learn OneJ-John's revelation is speaking about Jesus, the bible speaks about Jesus-He is. He was, and {Jesus} is coming back} I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance that are in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and my testimony about Jesus.… Everything is about Jesus-everything that is taught 'is about Jesus, the bible is focus on Jesus-His coming and His going, and His coming back-His disciples spoke about Jesus, in Jesus name we are healed, His name heals the sick, the lame, and the blind, His name raises the dead, in Jesus name we caste out demons, {Not in the name of Jehovah} Listen and learn OneJ-in Jesus" name, we pray to the Father. In Jesus name we believe, He is, He was, and He is to come.. It was said: 'The Watchtower is meant to be a denomination built on the grounds to bring people together-as Quote: but is this really true? Since the JW's had chosen to live outside the square, then it separates their darkness from those that walk in the light in Christ.. {1 John 1:7} “But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:08am On Nov 03, 2018 |
Well have a good day, bro, I must go and buy some parts for my truck.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:15am On Nov 03, 2018*. Modified: 1:06am On Nov 03, 2018 |
TATIME:Well he changed his name, he can't hide from the truth-he is still a lost sheep 'never knowing the truth about Christ-He wrote the above after I had written scriptures out from their bible, I was teachable, and then verbally he decided to deny I even exist.. johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:51pm On Oct 31, 2018 |
I thought you told me I was teachable? What went wrong? TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:40pm On Oct 31, 2018 |
It isn't worth your wild arguing your point with me, the problem with this argument is 'its written all over the net-and just like me, if I want something positive, I just need to let my fingers do the walking and press the right buttons. It isn't worth your wild, getting yourself all work up over it-because the truth will set you free. But if you were to break a few rules-and study outside the Watchtower and search the scriptures-and ask Christ to guide you, , it will be a hole new ball game to play. The net allows us to know-the hidden agenda's about all cults 'the net is full of information about the JW's, matter of fact the JW's is on top of the list of cults. This should give anybody a good reason to search the scriptures, if the JW's didn't give out those false prophesies in the first place, if they didn't change their bibles, if they didn't remove the scriptures, if they didn't add the scriptures, to and fro the Word of God-if they didn't practice unholy literature. ""Yes I suppose something good could come out of the JW's. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:24am On Oct 30, 2018*. Modified: 3:47am On Oct 30, 2018 |
Let the truth set U free. {John 8:32} Question: "Is Jehovah the true name of God?" Answer to this is deafeningly "NO" Answer: In the Hebrew Scriptures, the name of God is recorded as YHWH. So, where did the name “Jehovah” come from? Ancient Hebrew did not use vowels in its written form. The vowels were pronounced in spoken Hebrew but were not recorded in written Hebrew. The appropriate vowel sounds of words were passed down orally. As a result, when ancient Hebrew is studied, scholars and linguists often do not know with absolute confidence how certain Hebrew words were pronounced. This particularly becomes an issue when studying the Hebrew name of God, written in the Hebrew Scriptures as YHWH, also known as the tetragrammaton. Despite much study and debate, it is still not universally agreed upon how the Hebrew name for God YHWH was pronounced. Some prefer “Yahweh” (YAH-way); others prefer “Yehowah,” “Yahuweh,” or “Yahawah”; still the JW's argue for “Jehovah.” As you can see, virtually everything is up for debate. Should YHWH be pronounced with three syllables or two? Should the vowels be borrowed from Elohim or Adonai? Should the W be pronounced with more of a W sound or more of a V sound? It is not the purpose of this article to settle the debate. Rather, it is the purpose of this article to discuss the use of “Jehovah.” The vast majority of Jewish and Christian biblical scholars and linguists do not believe “Jehovah” to be the proper pronunciation of YHWH. There was no true J sound in ancient Hebrew. Even the Hebrew letter vav, which is transliterated as the W in YHWH is said to have originally had a pronunciation closer to W than the V of Jehovah. Jehovah is essentially a Germanic pronunciation of the Latinized transliteration of the Hebrew YHWH. It is the letters of the tetragrammaton, Latinized into JHVH, with vowels inserted. “Yahweh” or “Yehowah” is far more likely to be the correct pronunciation. The form Jehovah, though, is very commonly used. It is used in the King James Version of the Bible {Genesis 22:14; Exodus 6:3; 17:15; Judges 6:24; Psalm 83:18; Isaiah 12:2; 26:4} But not throughout the hole bible. It is also used, and strenuously promoted by, the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Jehovah’s Witnesses emphasize the use of Jehovah to the extent that any other name or title for God is viewed as borderline idolatry or outright heresy. With all of that said, it is not crucial to the Christian faith for the proper pronunciation of YHWH to be known. Both the Old and New Testaments, inspired by God, use generic terms for “God” and “Lord,” including El, Elohim, and Adonai (Hebrew); and Theos and Kurios (Greek). If the authors of Scripture, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, were allowed to use these terms, it is not wrong for us to refer to Him as “God” or “Lord,” either. In conclusion, it is highly unlikely that “Jehovah” is the correct pronunciation of YHWH. Further, it is far more important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, than it is to know the correct pronunciation of His name in Hebrew. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:59am On Oct 30, 2018*. Modified: 2:52am On Oct 30, 2018 |
The only problem with different denominations, with a slight push in the wrong direction can separate them from any truth about God. JW's started in 1870-"Charles T Russell was a 3rd degree Mason-like Joseph Smith, both were X Seven day Adventist" "The JW's was a break away from the Seven day's, if Charles Russell searched the Word of God as he should have done-, maybe, just maybe, you would know the truth about Christ, but sadly Charles carried the Seven day's literature through to his next level, Charles felt he was listening to Jehovah, Charles believed he could prophesy dates of the end-times, "Far from any bible truth about the Lord"-this left him and the JW organisation branded as the false prophets. The Seven day's believe Michael the archangel was Jesus in the flesh-Charles Russell followed by Joseph Smith had carried this same teaching through to their new followers. I suppose if Charles had enough sense to pull away from the Seven day's, to join a Church in connection with Christ-not Michael the archangel, just maybe, you and your comrades would actually find Christ.. This is the problem with most so called denominations, they separate themselves away from other Churches-Churches that have fellowship with Christ-new denominations believing they have all the answers without the Word of God, how does anybody have fellowship with God to know God, without truly believing He exist.. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:43pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
OneJ you do realise that The progressive use of God's name in the Bible: Are? El Shaddai was God's prime name to the Patriarchs. YHWH was God's prime name to the Jews: "God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am YHWH; and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty [El Shaddai], but by My name, YHWH, I did not make Myself known to them." {Exodus 6:2-3} Jesus is God's prime name for Christians: "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." {Acts 4:12} |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:26pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
Are the JW's ready to read-"OneJ "I hope this helps Us" The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin. Further, the English language did not have a letter "J" before about 1500 AD. For example, the very first edition of the KJV printed in 1611 AD, contained no "J". Not even one! Instead the letter "I" is used for Jew, Jesus, Joshua, Joanna, John AND the person pronoun "I". Instead these words were written in 1611 AD as, Iew, Iesus, Ioshua, Ioanna, Iohn. In a stunning admission, Jehovah's witnesses tell us that the reason they continue to use "Jehovah" instead of the correct spelling Yahweh, is to be pleasing to man, not God. One of the first things that JW new converts learn from their cultic Watchtower organization, is the lie that all Bibles are corrupt because they remove the Tetragrammaton from the Old Testament. Most Jehovah's Witnesses are so dismally mis-informed about the matter that they have no idea how to even find the Tetragrammaton in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament, much less even heard the term "Tetragrammaton". What most JW's don't know is that they are the one's who are truly guilty of adding to the word of God because the New World Translation (the JW sectarian paraphrase they call a Bible), actually adds the word "Jehovah" in the New Testament 237 times where it is never found. So the hard cold fact is that the New World Translation adds "Jehovah" into the New Testament 237 times, where there is absolutely no ancient manuscript evidence of any kind to support it. The Watchtower teaching of a Hebrew original of Matthew that used YHWH, surely trashes the Bible and destroys any confidence in the New Testament. If Jehovah's Witnesses can argue that YHWH was deleted from the Bible, then what else was deleted that we don't know about? Perhaps the word trinity was also used in {Matthew 28:18-19} but it too was deleted! A lost Hebrew Matthew that used YHWH contradicts Jesus Statement that scripture cannot be broken {John 10:35} and that the word of God is both incorruptible and imperishable. {1 Peter 1:23-25} For JW's to affirm that YHWH was once in the Bible, but deleted, is quite different from alternate readings. This is because there is absolutely no evidence in any Bible manuscript that YHWH was used ANYWHERE in the New Testament, much less Matthew. For YHWH to have been in the original, but 100% removed without any trace, destroys all credibility in the reliability of the entire Bible itself. Of course, Christians know that JW's add YHWH into their NWT strictly for theological reasons, but in doing so, trash the Bible! The only scholars who JW's can quote as believing in a Hebrew Matthew, are themselves Bible trashers and modernists who entirely deny the inspiration of the Bible. No scholar who views the Bible as the unalterable and inspired word of God will ever believe in a Hebrew Matthew original. So the Watchtower organization is "in bed with" those who try to ultimately destroy anyone's faith in the Bible. But the Watchtower has a long history of doing just this. For example, in the "Should you believe in the Trinity" booklet, JW's reference several "scholars" who come right out and say, "Trinity was a pagan origin doctrine". But what the "door to door class" of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't know, is that all the scholars who say trinity is pagan in that booklet are themselves Bible trashers who reject the virgin birth and the resurrection of Christ and the inspiration of the Bible. So as we will see, the JW charge that the Bibles that Christian commonly use, removes the divine name from the Old Testament is false. We accept that Hebrew was the language of the Jewish Synagogue in the first century. This fact, however only strengthens the fact that God did not want Christians to continue using YHWH since none of the 27 New Testament books ever used it. Jehovah's Witnesses would have us believe that YHWH was removed 100% from the New Testament, but never removed once from the Old Testament manuscripts. The truth is that JW's are guilty of adding the Divine name into the New Testament where it is never found. The expression, "Jehovah's Witnesses" did not exist prior to it becoming a kind of corporate trademark name of the salesmen of the Watchtower book selling company after 1930 AD. For 2000 years the followers of Christ have called themselves "Christians", never "Yahweh's" or "Jehovah's Witnesses,". OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:20pm On Oct 29, 2018*. Modified: 4:07pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
Yes I agree 'I am always teachable, as long as I am connecting to the Word of God-how about you, do you believe you are connected to the Watchtower literature? The Watchtower untruth and nothing about the truth. I always say-there is hope for one more-you do agree on the scriptures-and you do believe the Watchtower was right when they wrote scriptures concerning Christ in the NWT bible-you do believe there is only one true God for us Christians, Jesus Christ is Lord! El Shaddai was God's prime name to the Patriarchs. YHWH was God's prime name to the Jews: "God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am YHWH; and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty [El Shaddai], but by My name, YHWH, I did not make Myself known to them." {Exodus 6:2-3} Jesus is God's prime name for Christians: "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." {Acts 4:12} Jehovah is the name the JW's use-as their god! Do you still believe I am teachable? TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:50am On Oct 28, 2018*. Modified: 1:17am On Oct 28, 2018 |
Then you need to keep your threats to yourself, to become silent.. And if you are a student of the Watchtower-then you would agree everything the NWT bible has to offer is all truth and nothing but the truth! And it proves the Watchtower scholars are right when they believe Mary had a Son called Emmanuel meaning, "With Us is God? So rightly speaking when I read the NWT bible-it is written as it states in { Revelation 2:8, Revelation 22:20} I am the Alpha and the Omega Say's Jehovah God" "the One who is, and who was and who is coming, the Almighty. {V 20}The one who bears witness of these thing say's "Yes, I am coming quickly," "Amen! Come Lord Jesus." So if we were to believe in the scriptures, then it is true, only One God is coming back! Jehovah-Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. the first and Last, who became dead and came to life again-He is the only true God "coming back! Just as the NWT-KJV bible's had both agreed, "He is! The differences I find between you and a Atheist-there isn't. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:21am On Oct 27, 2018 |
TATIME:The only problem with your theory is, we are not neighbours, not in Christ-you are unteachable.. TATIME: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:30am On Oct 27, 2018*. Modified: 8:17am On Oct 27, 2018 |
That's typical it just shows your mind is working overtime, and everything you have come up with, so far, doesn't quite make sense. the Jews did not dare to call God Jehovah, nor do I call God a false name..I have always addressed God "as the Father, Our Father who is in Heaven 'hallowed be thru name, your kingdom come. I had already informed you, it can't be done, we need the Spirit of the Lord to teach us the truth, you. have only you and you, to teach you. There are to many different denominations, that all think they are Mr right in Christ-the problem is, you all think you have all the answers without using the bible as your study book. JW's had "WRITTEN" and agreed upon concerning "JESUS""With Us is God.. Watchtower study NWT bible {Matthew 1:23} {John 20:28} Thomas said< My Lord and my God, had we noticed, I remember the JW's would come up with certain letters that was written in the bible-the Large "L" meant God-the smaller "I" meant God's Son, well it happens-Thomas addresses Christ My Lord and my God.. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by brocab: 7:13am On Oct 27, 2018 |
Question: "What does the Bible say about the prosperity gospel?" Answer: In the prosperity gospel, also known as the “Word of Faith Movement,” the believer is told to use God, whereas the truth of biblical Christianity is just the opposite—God uses the believer. Prosperity theology sees the Holy Spirit as a power to be put to use for whatever the believer wills. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person who enables the believer to do God's will. The prosperity gospel movement closely resembles some of the destructive greed sects that infiltrated the early church. Paul and the other apostles were not accommodating to or conciliatory with the false teachers who propagated such heresy. They identified them as dangerous false teachers and urged Christians to avoid them. Paul warned Timothy about such men in {1 Timothy 6:5, 9-11} These men of “corrupt mind” supposed godliness was a means of gain and their desire for riches was a trap that brought them “into ruin and destruction” {v. 9} The pursuit of wealth is a dangerous path for Christians and one which God warns about: “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs” {v. 10} If riches were a reasonable goal for the godly, Jesus would have pursued it. But He did not, preferring instead to have no place to lay His head {Matthew 8:20} and teaching His disciples to do the same. It should also be remembered that the only disciple concerned with wealth was Judas. Paul said covetousness is idolatry {Ephesians 5:5} and instructed the Ephesians to avoid anyone who brought a message of immorality or covetousness {Ephesians 5:6-7} Prosperity teaching prohibits God from working on His own, meaning that God is not Lord of all because He cannot work until we release Him to do so. Faith, according to the Word of Faith doctrine, is not submissive trust in God; faith is a formula by which we manipulate the spiritual laws that prosperity teachers believe govern the universe. As the name “Word of Faith” implies, this movement teaches that faith is a matter of what we say more than whom we trust or what truths we embrace and affirm in our hearts. A favorite term of prosperity gospel teachers is “positive confession.” This refers to the teaching that words themselves have creative power. What you say, prosperity teachers claim, determines everything that happens to you. Your confessions, especially the favors you demand of God, must all be stated positively and without wavering. Then God is required to answer {as though man could require anything of God!} Thus, God's ability to bless us supposedly hangs on our faith. {James 4:13-16} clearly contradicts this teaching: “Now listen, you who say, ‘Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.’ Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.” Far from speaking things into existence in the future, we do not even know what tomorrow will bring or even whether we will be alive. Instead of stressing the importance of wealth, the Bible warns against pursuing it. Believers, especially leaders in the church {1 Timothy 3:3} are to be free from the love of money {Hebrews 13:5} The love of money leads to all kinds of evil {1 Timothy 6:10} Jesus warned, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions” {Luke 12:15} In sharp contrast to the prosperity gospel emphasis on gaining money and possessions in this life, Jesus said, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal” {Matthew 6:19} The irreconcilable contradictions between prosperity teaching and the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is best summed up in the words of Jesus in {Matthew 6:24} “You cannot serve both God and money.” |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:45am On Oct 26, 2018*. Modified: 7:19am On Oct 27, 2018 |
OneJ:Firstly I need to know, who is your God? 'Yahweh is not Jehovah... Secondly everything I have written in Word 'you have denied it with a passion, I only answered to your page, because you needed to know, your own bible, because you want the argument-but you are walking in blind at the same time, The Watchtower believes "With Us is God. I am not interested even trying to have some what a conversation with you, it's difficult trying to talk to someone who denies Christ-I don't believe you even know your bible? Your questions are silly-and nothing you have written is complete, and your information comes directly out of a watchtower magazine? If you could prove you have some what truth about Jesus, I will be happy to sit down and talk-but you have not His Spirit to do such. Everybody knows, the Word of God is more then just a book-it's Spiritual-to understand it properly we need the Spirit to teach us, you don't have the Spirit, its always the same old story-you believe you have all the answers, because you think you can work it out from your own mind, well it's impossible to even try to think above God-your denial shows positive, it is obvious why you can't accept the truth in Christ.. The word of the Watchtower is a never ending quicksand-once someone is trapped, the only way out is Christ... OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:41am On Oct 25, 2018 |
OneJ:So because I haven't yet produced {John 10:30, Malachi 2:15} am I still written down in the black book.. Finely a JW is starting to see a picture! Just like you are with your Mama and Papa-you are one seed! Just like when two come together in marriage two become one seed.. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:08am On Oct 25, 2018 |
OneJ:There is still life at the end of the tunnel? It doesn't matter what verses I bring forward-they are already written-If this confuses you, study the Word of God-it doesn't change, it stays the same.. Thomas cried out, “My Lord and my God!” {John 20:28} Obviously he witnessed something you and I could only dream off. Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed. So this is where the bible fills in the grasps, we believe by Word-we believe because we have chosen to believe Christ exist in Word and in truth. "Christ is written on our hearts-He is as much spiritual then He is natural. With Us is God" It is also important to recognize "Jesus is man, we do not simply mean that he is partially man. We mean that he is fully human, everything that belongs to the essence of true humanity is true of him. He is just as truly human as the rest of us. The fact that Jesus is truly and fully human is clear from the fact that he has a human body {Luke 24:39} a human mind {Luke 2:52} and a human soul {Matthew 26:38} Jesus is just as fully human as the rest of us, for just as He has all of the essential elements of the Godhead, He has all the essential elements of human nature: a human body, a human soul, a human mind, a human will, and human emotions. His human mind was not replaced by His divine mind. Rather, He has both a human and divine mind. Jesus Will Be Fully God and Fully Man Forever, "For most people it is obvious that Jesus will be God forever. But for some reason it escapes a lot of us that Jesus will also be man forever. He is still man right now as you read this and will be forever. The Bible is clear that Jesus rose physically from the dead in the same body that had died {Luke 24:39} and then ascended into heaven as a man in His physical body {Acts 1:9; Luke 24:50–51} It would make no sense for Him to have done this if He was simply going to ditch His body and stop being man when He arrived in heaven. {John 1:18} The book of Hebrews gives us God the Father’s direct testimony about Christ: “But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever" and the gospel of John calls Jesus “the only begotten God”. That Christ continued being man with a physical body after his ascension is confirmed by the fact that when He returns, it will be as a man in His body. He will return physically. {Philippians 3:21} says that at his second coming, Christ “will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of his glory.” This verse is clear that Jesus still has His body. It is a glorified body, which Paul calls, “the body of His glory.” And when Christ returns, he will still have it because this verse says that he will transform our bodies to be like His. Both Jesus and all Christians will then continue living together in their bodies forever, because the resurrection body cannot die {1 Corinthians 15:42} since it is eternal {2 Corinthians 5:1} OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:20pm On Oct 24, 2018*. Modified: 2:30am On Oct 25, 2018 |
As we can see, we are on two different wave lengths, you came here expecting an argument from a certain fellow comrade, thank God, he never answered you, he may have ripped you to pieces. The facts are you can't see the issue in front of you; I haven't answered your page as your enemy-I answered to help you, concerning your bible.. Jesus say's test the spirit-meaning test everything-ask yourself 'why are these verses found in the NWT bible, you have seen the evidence-you have searched the scriptures-they are written-so why does Watchtower magazines denies these fact's-about Jesus. I am sure you go to bible study at kingdom hall once every Saturday, this is a prefect time to ask a few questions-ask the elders-there has to be some extermination, why both books are completely different, why they both deny each other-and why doesn't the Watchtower ever focus on the NWT bible-instead they focus only on the Watchtower literature from the magazines.. The fact is, we Christians all know-to retrieve any facts concerning God-we go straight to the Word of God, and search the scriptures-you like to favour other bibles then learn from them, If it say's one must be born again, before he can enter into the kingdom of God, then search the scriptures-God is not mocked, if God say's "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God! Search the scriptures. I showed you-even in the NWT bible, it shows us whom Jesus is-all you have to do, is, either believe it, or continual to deny it, simple, The fact's are-If the Word isn't twisted, then we don't twist it-we don't change it, nor do we remove it. Your bible is living proof whom Jesus is-I have given you the scriptures to prove these solid facts, so it's really your waste of time trying to prove Jesus doesn't exist. OneJ:So brocab is lying according to you, if you believe this, then this is probably why you don't believe in the bible. "The NWT bible, say's it, as it sound. "With Us is God! Other bibles shows "God is with us" and you refuse to believe it, {deafeningly you don't know God"} "You don't believe God can do the impossible! You don't even believe He is God, He is the creator, and you can't believe He became a Man. What is the name of your unknown God. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:15am On Oct 24, 2018 |
{Philippians 2:5-8} Amplified Bible (AMP) 5 Have this same attitude in yourselves which was in Christ Jesus [look to Him as your example in selfless humility], 6 who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God [as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes—the entire nature of deity], did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted [as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it]; 7 but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity, but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity] by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men [He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man]. 8 After He was found in [terms of His] outward appearance as a man [for a divinely-appointed time], He humbled Himself [still further] by becoming obedient [to the Father] to the point of death, even death on a cross. {Philippians 2:5-8} NWT 5 Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man,* he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake.* |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:01am On Oct 24, 2018 |
Only if you ask me nicely! Demanding your so called authority won't do you any good. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:56am On Oct 24, 2018 |
Come out from among them "said the Lord-turn from your evil ways-and come follow Me. "Now how hard is that-for you to turn away from the Watchtower and come follow Christ.. OneJ:Shame on you, what will your JW comrades think of your above interpretation, another twisted belief, from OneJ. Denying the fact's wont save you,, opp's if you haven't read the NWT bible, let's start from the top and read it again? {Matthew 1:23}“Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im·manʹu·el,”which means, when translated, “With Us Is God.” Do you understand it now? Yes that's right, the Watchtower said: With Us is God-meaning God became Man in Jesus! OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:05am On Oct 24, 2018 |
Some Mothers have them? OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:51am On Oct 22, 2018*. Modified: 8:39am On Oct 22, 2018 |
You are deafeningly barking up the wrong tree, even the Watchtower don't agree with you, you must be feeling alone at the moment.. Don't worry, you will try and turn the NWT bible against itself 'once again.. OneJ:So you may not believe it, but the JW's have their own point of view about the scriptures below, because it seems the JW's believe immanuel is God in the flesh! {Matthew 1:23} NKJV "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us"  . {Matthew 1:23} NWT “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im·manʹu·el,”which means, when translated, “With Us Is God.” So it's not stupid after all, God is always in authority in Heaven and on Earth "Eternity.. OneJ: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:19am On Oct 22, 2018*. Modified: 7:45am On Oct 22, 2018 |
Listen to OneJ he is arguing against his own bible? "why don't you admit someone in the Watchtower made a big mistake. I just happened to see a door open for the picking-and if anybody would like to join, its a open page! {Revelation 1:8, Revelation 22:20} I am the Alpha and the Omega Says Jehovah" God' the One who is, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty"..and then in Verse 22-20 The one bears witness of these things say's, "Yes. I am coming quickly."' "Amen! Come, Lord Jesus... So who's coming? Is God coming or is Jesus coming? NWT bible {1 John 5:20} But we know that the Son of God has come, and He has given us insight" so that we may gain the knowledge of the One who is true. And we are in union with the One who is true, by means of His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting! I suppose it makes life a little easier when searching the scriptures, I found the NWT bible contradicts itself in some sentences and others it spells it out clearly 'whom Jesus is. I suppose the JW's don't use their bibles for this reason-because to them it contradicts their verbal teachings they retrieve from their Watchtower magazines, had anybody read them? I call them comic books 'with make believe cartoon pictures inside them, a remaking of the old movie called Dr Do Little living and talking with the animals. Comic books are usually about superhero's, but the facts are, we already know the Watchtower, had never fully accepted Christ into their denomination, let alone accepting Christ into their hearts to be their personal super hero, sadly with their disbelief's, they may never experience the Holy Spirit.. But what I do know for sure-we all die-we will all experience our judgement day standing before Christ, He will Judge the living and the dead-He decides where we spend eternity. In Christ the living have a choice-whom do we seek? It isn't rocket science, It just takes a little bible knowledge to believe the truth about Christ, Jesus was never about denominations-your denomination began with Charles Russell he separated himself from the Seven-day Adventist Church, both denominations were disqualified from where they left off, Michael the archangel came as Jesus in the flesh-how did Jesus die on the cross, if God only made angels in Spirit form? I need to ask a question is the Watchtower selling drugs-I haven't produced any other bible, but OneJ seems to be confused-he is arguing against the NWT Watchtower bible. So I would like to ask you a question "why are you arguing against your bible? It's as clear as it sounds."Amen! Come, Lord Jesus... OneJ: |
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