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Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:37pm On May 01, 2018*

So Paul didn't teach tradition-everything I had written is now indoctrinated, in which bible are they indoctrinated-obviously it isn't written in the KJ's.
And obviously Catholic tradition and the bible are not the same-you are no different to the JW's, they also have there hidden agenda's in their bible, that they believe is true to them.
Someone gave the Catholic's authority to change the Word of God-some-one had added tradition, assuming Paul taught a tradition under the secret society act's, and now claiming it is indoctrinated? "Obviously it isn't written in the bible.
By the knowledge I have received from you-is that Paul and the disciples taught the Catholic Church these indoctrinated traditions, the Catholic's believe the information was given to the Catholic Church by God Himself, they believe keeping these traditions under lock and key away from the world, man will never destroy it.
Obviously the Catholic's have also put God in a closet, and still, the Catholic's, haven't any Idea where they can find God, remembering by my own experiences, I myself couldn't find God in the Catholic Church either.
The major difference between Bible-believing Christians and Catholics, is that Catholics believe whatever the priests tell them; but genuine, born-gain, Bible-believing Christians SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES-where the Catholic's fail to do.. {John 5:39}

9inches:
Thanks for patronizing but that's not my claim nor that of the church.

Those are not called traditions. They are called doctrines. Now you see why I keep telling you how ignorant it is to mis-characterize argument you don't fully understand. I hope you use this opportunity to go read up on doctrines, dogmas, sacred traditions and sacred scriptures.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:57pm On Apr 30, 2018*

And again, no-one knows God more then you, no-one knows the bible neither, only the Catholic's know the in's and out's about Christ..
The only way to know Christ is through Church Catholic tradition.
No-one is like the Catholic's who claim to know everything there is to know about Christ-tradition tells us to pray through the rosaries, tradition tells us to follow Mary and the saint's, tradition tells us to bow and kiss the feet of statues, tradition tells us Mary is our mediator. Catholic tradition tells us Paul preached tradition of the above.
Not even the bible can agree with the above traditions according to scripture.
The Born again bible study believers don't know Christ-not like the Catholic's do through tradition..
And you expect the world to believe you, tradition had also caused priest to molest Children, traditions that isn't found anywhere in the bible are worldly traditions.
To be honest if we were to follow Catholic traditions, no-one, I repeat, no-one would go into heaven to be with the Lord.

9inches:
You are not a bible believer because you do not understand the bible. It's like a primary school dropout reading Applied Mechanics textbook; there's no way for him to understand it since nobody taught him through it. That's the predicament protestants are into. It would serve you best if you learn the bible the proper and and most accurate way - learning from the masters (the people who learnt from the Apostles).

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:43pm On Apr 30, 2018

Of course you do-you are better than the rest of us who daily studies our bibles. We can't forget you are Catholic, and Catholic's claim to know God without the Spirit of the Lord...

9inches:
I have read more than the bible, so I understand the bible better. Keep checking the sites I showed you so you can continue to unlearn the lies you have been living.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:25pm On Apr 30, 2018

Riofidelio:
Saying you're preaching and teaching people God's word and people "unbelievers" can't see you is a jet age lie that can be dismantled easily.

Can you easily dismantle the Word of God-could you prove it to be a jet age lie?

Riofidelio:
My dear friend brocab, it's easy to resist facts if you've chosen to do so but it's not easy to carry along all the people on such a mission because no matter what happens FEW honesthearted ones will use their God's given brains to discern how things could have been in the first century. Saying you're preaching and teaching people God's word and people "unbelievers" can't see you is a jet age lie that can be dismantled easily. Because preaching is for those who are "yet to believe" not those who already believed! As for those who wants to resist the truth like you, they'll remain confused,scattered and not able to form a reasonable GROUP. That's why all opposers of Jehovah's witnesses can't come up with a noticeable and reputable recognized group! So we're not interested in large gatherings or crowd of doubleminded followers,Jehovah,Jesus,Angels in the heavens and Jehovah's witnesses are happy for those FEW that's coming to get the sense of the message! Luke 15:7

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:58pm On Apr 30, 2018

{John 14:18-20} Jesus said: “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. After a little while the world will see Me no more; but you will see Me; because I live, you shall live also. In that day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
This proves No-one has seen God at anytime-Jesus is invisible throughout the World. And I suppose this is the many reasons why we are invisible "to you?

Riofidelio:
So meditate on all these facts if it's the same with your INVISIBLE GROUP

{John 16:16} “A little while, and you will no longer see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me” Jesus is saying that His disciples see Him physically at the moment, but after His death, burial, ascension, and the coming of the promised Holy Spirit, they will “see” Him in a much clearer way.
{John 16:7} “But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
And while He will be invisible to the world after His ascension, He will be very evident to those who believe in Him. They will sense His presence more surely, and He will no longer dwell among them, but in them.
So Jesus is preferring He lives in us through His invisible Spirit..
It isn't about criticising, nor is it about-who has a name, everything is about Christ-invisible, it isn't about persecution-nor is it about Muslims, all any other denomination. Christians will persecute-and judge those who claim to be somewhat they aren't in Christ..

Riofidelio:
People SAW Jesus and His disciples,NOTICED their activities,ASKED them questions,that's why some FOLLOWED them,many criticized them due to popular beliefs and customs,they were attacked,persecuted and executed by those who carry and claim to believe in the Bible!!! So meditate on all these facts if it's the same with your INVISIBLE GROUP before you argue further because WE "Jehovah's witnesses" are still experiencing all of these till today not from Muslims who don't believe the Bible but from those who claims to be Christians .Matthew 10:3-22 God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:39am On Apr 30, 2018

You still prefer to mock God, not even Himself was recognise to the people, if they knew who He was, God wouldn't have had to come down to live among men.
Jesus would walk by, while the people were still asking who He was, and still to this day and age, people are still asking.
So before you answer-give yourself time to think, if people believed in the Word of God, from the beginning-than Paul wouldn't need to warn us about false prophets, which come to us in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves, "Wherefore by their fruits we shall know them.
But since they don't recognise Christ-then Paul's warning stands!
{Jeremiah 13:8-10} Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Thus says the Lord: ‘In this manner I will ruin the pride of Judah and the great pride of Jerusalem. This evil people, who refuse to hear My words, who follow the dictates of their hearts, and walk after other gods to serve them and worship them, shall be just like this sash which is profitable for nothing.
And those that refuses the Word of God, are-religions like yours, trying to convince people, Jehovah Witnesses are Jehovah's only chosen people.

Riofidelio:
Wonderful! South Americans will say "Bravo!" That's the most beautiful truth i've ever heard in all my life! Jesus' own disciples were seen by both believers and unbelievers even the GROUP name "Christians" came from the unbelievers who SAW and RECOGNISED them as followers of the young man from Nazareth who is called Christ! But today's BORN AGAIN "preachers" are passing and unbelievers like me can't see them! Is your preaching for those who have believed already or those about to believe? Please help me out i'm totally confused now ooooooo! "Mo gbo, mo jabo, ikoko idi mi re lule ofo!" "I heard and fell down due to your POWERFUL SPIRITUL UTTERANCES" somebarry shout Hallelujah!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 3:03pm On Apr 29, 2018

I found one-we are born again bible believing Holy Spirit filled Christians-who stay's on course in the Word of God.
These are the Holy Spirit filled disciples Jesus sent out unto the world to preach His gospel, and the message in this day and age, is still preached.
And while the JW blind can only lead the blind, you can't see us passing by, we are either in the streets, on every corner, we are seen in shopping malls, "we are seen preaching in school's, prisons, hospitals, even in the comforts of our homes, we are preaching the Word of God, and still you can't see us while we are walking by.

Riofidelio:
If you find a religious group that's able to meet up with 50% of the fruitage apart from Jehovah's witnesses please tell me now! God is not interested in destroying people if they're willing to accept discipline and correction but if not destruction is awaiting them.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:29pm On Apr 29, 2018

Agreeing is not what I had asked, praying for them, and allowing God to do His will, would be the better option.

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm praying for those who won't agree with you on any religious settings!

Why would someone who knows nothing about God need our prayers from Jesus? How could they appreciate the goodness of God, of whom they know nothing about?

Riofidelio:
Truly speaking you have 1,000% Holy Spirit dwelling in you even more than Jesus who will never pray with those in disagreement with Him.

God wants to save all men, but those who have accepted him as Lord and Savior are privileged to special blessings.
Jesus died for all men.
The majority of people are in the world and are satisfied what the world has to offer, but all men from cult's and other religious denominations, are not called to be saved, but do we pray for them> {Acts 26:18}
{James 4:4} Jesus is not praying for the world, because the world is enemy of God.
{1 John 2:15-16} and the love of the Father can not be in us, if we love the world.
God has called us to seek those who are lost in the world. I pray, we heed the calling and seek those who are lost, that Christ might be praying for them as he is praying for us. So don't give up JW-because there's still hope for you too!

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm praying for those who won't agree with you on any religious settings! Truly speaking you have 1,000% Holy Spirit dwelling in you even more than Jesus who will never pray with those in disagreement with Him. John 17:8/9 Don't worry about me, i'm a bonafide member of that CULT and never willing to leave the CULT,over 8,000,000 yet growing number are zealously preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom with the CULT but unfortunately you and other critics have no visible GROUP that's bold enough to come out publicly(Act 4:29) for RECOGNITION at least CULT oo or WITCHS oo even WIZARDS just for the observation of onlookers! Act 11:26 For your information the GROUP name "Christians" came not from the mouth of believers but from ridiculers just to vilify Christ's faithful followers, and disciples welcome the development so if you call US CULT we're not troubled(Matthew 10:25) as long as you acknowledged that we're different from you people without a visible bold GROUP!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:45pm On Apr 29, 2018

No Jesus said: to His disciples He will send them the Holy Spirit
{John 14:26} But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Riofidelio:
What i'm telling you is Jesus never brought any VISIBLE BEING before people and said "this is the Holy Spirit" He only said you'll see the "fruit" of the Spirit.Matthew 7:17-20 So if your religious group can score just 50% qualities of that fruitage then nobody should say anything against your group that's what Paul said! Galatians 5:23

{Acts 12-2} While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”
So not bad, for a Spirit you believe doesn't exist, maybe if you had understood the scriptures in the first place-and understood the Holy Spirit-we wouldn't be having this misunderstanding conversation, because the Spirit that is in me, would be the same spirit that is you too! But that isn't the case now is it-the spirit in you is flesh warring against the Spirit of God.

Riofidelio:
You don't need to believe me because i'm not Jesus,i'm just one out of imperfect millions claiming to be His disciples. What i'm telling you is Jesus never brought any VISIBLE BEING before people and said "this is the Holy Spirit" He only said you'll see the "fruit" of the Spirit.Matthew 7:17-20 So if your religious group can score just 50% qualities of that fruitage then nobody should say anything against your group that's what Paul said! Galatians 5:23

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 8:53am On Apr 29, 2018

Thanks for you honesty, you are a member to a cult, and the Nazarene name is Charles T Russel born 1800's, about 200 years ago..
And the photo's taken are people of no man's land-waiting to be saved-let's pray that these poor people will receive salvation before they burn in hell fire with your father of lies and wonders..

Riofidelio:
Excellent! I'm a member of the "cult" that was formed by a young Nazarene some 2,000 years ago numbering over 8,000,000 zealous evangelists today you can see their pictures down there!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 8:46am On Apr 29, 2018

I don't believe you? You don't even recognise the Holy Spirit-JW's believe the Holy Spirit is an active force-like a lighting strike hitting someone either dead or nearly dead.
The Holy Spirit don't work in us like that, His Spirit lives, and it communicates with us, and the fruit of the Holy Spirit is divine.
If you are really someone that truly believes in the Word of God, is this true-In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God! Is it true-Jehovah lived among men in the flesh?

Riofidelio:
You're really a talkative. With nothing to show for your Faith and no practical applications of accumulated information yet you're mimicking what is written, this is truly amazing! Jehovah's witnesses organization is the only organization where the nine qualities of the fruit of Holy Spirit is operating and you said it doesn't matter! Everyone knows that Jehovah's witnesses are the only organization observing all that Jesus has commanded and you're saying it's no big deal. You quoted 1 John 2:17-19 but you and you so called Pastors are striving really hard for EARTHLY things, accumulating EARTHLY materials,going about with heavily armed guards due to accumulated EARTHLY material things yet you're still saying those who's religion has taught them to live none materialistic lifestyle don't have the Holy Spirit with them! How do you think a carnal man living in this modern age with so much material things, lifestyles and fleshly desires around as DISTRACTIONS yet not infected with materialism if not because the Holy Spirit is operating on him/her? My friend you're only reading and mimicking what the Bible says but the understanding is lacking in you. If you must know "knowledge is the accumulation of useful information" for example having the Bible and knowing it's God's word but "wisdom is the practical applications of accumulated information for lasting benefits" meaning putting what you know to use so that people can see and testify that the knowledge is truly worthwhile. My friend that's exactly what you're lacking!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 8:30am On Apr 29, 2018

Yes I agree, let it rest, and like you said: it's a waste of time for 9 inches to preach Church tradition, when I have it already in my heart, to preach the Word of God.
And like you say: If I chose to continue living in the Word of God-then allow me to live. And if Luther taught the bible, then it's right for him to live on, and it's right for you, through the Word of God to find it in your heart, to forgive him. And move on...

Octaves:
going through some of your exchanges with brocab. I applaud your persistence but its no use trying to pull an unwilling person out of a ditch. they will always stick to the limited information they've been indoctrinated with. even the Bible they are thumping about, they don't even know well. I'd advise you let the argument rest. if he wants to continue living in the Luther lies, let him continue

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 10:38pm On Apr 28, 2018*

If you are going by qualities, then you are connected to the wrong tree. Jesus was classed as an outsider-He told Rome, His kingdom is not of this world.
Which means Jesus wasn't looking for qualifications, He wanted to train new believers..
{And plus cults are all the same-they are looking for rich professionals that big note themselves-bagging with pride, so the world will know them-Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not from the Father but from the world.…Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
[color=#000099]{And when has anybody outside the Watchtower have I ever heard a JW say the Holy Spirit is a living being and Jesus is Lord? {John 3:27} Jesus's kingdom is not of this world-and the gift's of the Spirit are not given unless the Lord Jesus calls you.
And what sort of worship do you need to retrieve the 9 qualification of the spirit? Qualifications don't come from head knowledge, and Galatians is only used among those you are trying to corner in the innocent to believe you ever exist-outside that, Galatians don't exist.He didn't go to the professionals 'from house to house looking for qualities, He hit the place where He slept on the streets, looking for unqualified men and women to believe..

Riofidelio:
This is strange ooooooo.JWs aren't Spirit filled yet all the nine qualities of the SPIRIT "mysteriously" happens to be complete in their form of worship! Galatians 5:22/23 Whereas critics can't come up with a GROUP in which to display at least four of those qualities. Na wa o!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 12:05pm On Apr 28, 2018

I will give you the best source to focus yourself on, it's called the bible, maybe you should be focusing more about Christ who can save you, then traditions that can't save you.

9inches:
The sites are real. You click, it opens; you search for any information you need. If the topic you are looking for is not there, tell me and I will give you more sources.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:57am On Apr 28, 2018

You may believe everyone knows you are preaching everlasting life-but honestly, the world don't know this.
The Atheist, the Christians, Islam, Mormons, and every other religion that believes in something: knows the in's and out's about the JW's.
I for one, am a outsider, you should see it from where I am standing-you can claim as much as you like to claim, but cult's are a system of a religious group, whose beliefs are considered extreme or strange by many people: Jehovah Witnesses are knowing by this description..
I don't care what you call yourselves-one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God, this doesn't mean-you have given yourself over to God just by saying a few words-I mean you are saved only when the Holy Spirit comes and enters into a man.
JW's are not Spirit filled believers-to know what it is like to preach the truth.

Riofidelio:
Everybody on this planet knows that we're zealously preaching and teaching people about everlasting life on a renovated earth preparing them to be ushered in as faithful,peaceful,law abiding,harmless,selfless and loving EARTHLY citizens.(Psalms 37:8-11,29.Proverbs 2:21/22.Isaiah 35:6,65:21.Matthew 5:5) You claim you're going to heaven yet you and your appointed teachers (Pastors) are striving really HARD TIMELESSLY for EARTHLY riches,sparing little or no time for the work Jesus commanded His faithful followers to do.(Matthew 10:3-22,28:19/20) You're always protecting your EARTHLY life even if it means killing someone who tries to disturb your EARTHLY life as your so called Pastors(teachers) goes around with HEAVILY armed security guards after accumulating EARTHLY materials,(Luke 9:24) whereas only spirits can go to heaven without any EARTHLY materials. Matthew 6:25 It's obviously evident that your POWERFUL faith is demonstrated by your good WORKS! James 2:18-26

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:38am On Apr 28, 2018

Well I always say honesty helps us grow, and since you recognise you are a cult, Now we need to move on to our next chapter..

Riofidelio:
Known not for good works rather "Known to be a cult" "Peaceful" cult! "Preaching and teaching" cult! "Friendly in the neighborhood" cult! "Love amongst themselves" cult! "Law abiding" cult! "High moral standards" cult! "Globally known and respected for virtuous deeds" cult! "Producing none materialistic youths" cults! Why do you love darkness and deceit? What works are you known for? Nothing! Well if that's what a cult means i'll prefer to live and die a cult member after all Jesus was also referred to as the head of a cult so there's no big deal if a group of people are referred to as a cult! Matthew 10:25,12:24/27 God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:25am On Apr 28, 2018

This is nothing to brag about, Jw's are knowing alright, but not because of the good works, they are knowing to be a cult, but in your case that's nothing to be ashamed off, because it's true.

Riofidelio:
Jehovah's witnesses are known globally and in every country our activities are felt, so go and witness for Jesus if truly you're His witnesses and let observers recognize you with the works resulting from your Faith.Hebrew 11:1, James 2:26

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:37am On Apr 28, 2018*

{John 5:43} I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.
Question: "Do people know who we are-and does God know-On the contrary, we speak as those approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. We are not trying to please worldly people, who claim they don't know us, we please God, who tests our hearts.
Through faith we are rewarded in heaven.
"Now this doesn't concern the unfaithful disbelieving earth bounded Jehovah witnesses that preaches from house to house claiming only the 144000 will be rewarded in heaven, while the rest are trying to survive on earth under the NEW WORLD ORDER"
Answer: Do you know the bible mentions rewards in heaven, multiple times, and these rewards are for everyone that believes, not for those left on earth after the 144000 had risen..{Matthew 5:12; Luke 6:23, 35; 1 Corinthians 3:14; 9:18}
But why are rewards necessary? Won’t being in heaven with God be enough? Experiencing Him, His glory, and the joys of heaven will be so wonderful, it’s hard to understand why extra rewards would be needed. Also, since our faith rests in Christ’s righteousness instead of our own {Romans 3:21–26} it seems strange that our works would merit reward.
God will give rewards in heaven at the bema, or the judgment seat of Christ, based on our faithfulness in service to Him {2 Corinthians 5:10}
The rewards will show the reality of our sonship {Galatians 4:7} and the justice of God {Hebrews 6:10} God will give rewards in heaven in order to fulfill the law of sowing and reaping {Galatians 6:7–9} and make good on His promise that our labor in the Lord is not in vain {1 Corinthians 15:58}
One reason for the rewards in heaven is the fact that Jesus shares His reward with us. Paul said, “I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”
{Galatians 2:20} Our lives are “hidden” with Christ, who is seated at the right hand of God {Colossians 3:1–4}
We die with Him and we live with Him and we share in His joy {Romans 6:8; Matthew 25:21}
In heaven we will dwell with Him {John 14:1–3}
Our lives are inextricably linked with Christ’s. The reward He receives is shared with all of us: “If we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory” {Romans 8:17}
Our rewards in heaven depend on the goodness and power of God. Through Christ’s resurrection we gain an inheritance in heaven; on earth our faith is tested and results in praise and glory and honor when Christ is revealed {1 Peter 1:3–9}
The things we do in this life are only permanent (that is, carried with us into heaven) if they are built on the foundation, which is Christ {1 Corinthians 3:11–15}
The rewards we gain in heaven are not like the rewards we earn here on earth. We tend to think in material terms—mansions, jewels, etc. But these things are only representations of the true rewards we will gain in heaven. A child who wins a spelling bee treasures the trophy he receives not for the sake of the trophy itself but for what that trophy means. Likewise, any rewards or honor we gain in heaven will be precious to us because they carry the weight and meaning of our relationship with God—and because they remind us of what He did through us on earth.
In this way, rewards in heaven glorify God and provide us with joy, peace, and wonder as we consider God’s work in us and through us.
The closer we were to God during this life, the more centered on Him and aware of Him, the more dependent on Him, the more desperate for His mercy, the more there will be to celebrate.
We are like characters in a story who suffer doubt, loss, and fear, wondering if we will ever really have our heart’s desire.
When the happy ending comes and desire is fulfilled, there comes a completion. The story would not be satisfying without that completion.
Rewards in heaven are the completion of our earthly story, and those rewards will be eternally satisfying {Psalm 16:11}
But does this have anything to do with the JW's "No" Jesus rewards those who He entrusted to preach His gospel, and believe His every Word..

Riofidelio:
Great! So keep it up.and let people know your GROUP just as Jesus' followers were known as a GROUP and given a GROUP name "Christians" remember they were called that as a GROUP in Antioch and not as an individual so do the work and let observers recognize you people as a GROUP. God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:51pm On Apr 26, 2018

{Isaiah 42:1-3} Amplified Bible (AMP)
God’s Promise concerning His Servant “Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold; My Chosen One in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the nations. “He will not call out or shout aloud, Nor make His voice heard in the street.“A broken reed He will not break [off] And a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish [He will not harm those who are weak and suffering]; He will faithfully bring forth justice.
So we are preaching the gospel in the comforts of our home-we don't lie, nor do we cause disputes, we don't cause verbal arguments, nor do we trespass on private properties, we are silent, we don't shout out loud, nor do we make ourselves heard in the streets, and yet the truth is heard and it's preached: Jesus said: go out unto all the nations to preach the gospel-and what better way is to use the net, that reaches to the four corners of the earth, in minutes, and outreaching to people like you 'unsaved..

Riofidelio:
Go out and declare what you know publicly just as Jesus commanded His faithful followers and not just sitting in the corner of your room with your phone deceiving yourselves that you're "preaching and teaching" as the Lord has commanded! Matthew 10:3-26,28:19/20 That's how to become a reputable,dedicated,zealous and industrious witness of Jesus.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:00pm On Apr 26, 2018*

Telling your truth, is not always the best move-personally Martin Luther done nothing to you, the story of Martin Luther came directly from Catholic Tradition, 'books, but still he is a brother in Christ-If tradition told me to judge your mother by a book cover, would it be an insult to believe everything I was told by it, or would I end up being a gossip and busybody causing fiction about your mother among the Christians.
Baby Christians are people who never seem to move on, because they stay focus on the gossip, "Think" is it better to forgive then forget-and move on to our next chapter in life: Martin Luther is old news! How many old past Popes' priest that committed crimes against humanity, how about sexual crimes, and still the Catholic Church keeps them under guard in coffins laying in the Vatican under lock and key, and still they are classed as saints.
I didn't come on this forum to argue from other sites-I came here to witness-if you have a problem with that, and you prefer me to leave, well my answer, is, like this: If you don't like it, move on, and find somewhat truth elsewhere" I came here to write the truth, everything I write in scripture is bible truth, it's either you accept it, or just get a life elsewhere, and allow someone else to come along and find it in their hearts to study bible truth..
Always remember we aren't all the same, and you will come up against bible believers, such as I, traditions were made to keep the Church stable, every Church have rules and regulations, traditions is what Paul taught to the Church-And because you actually believe I don't know Christ, because I don't follow your traditions; "Think" before casting the first stone-to be truthful, your messages are damaging no-one is into religious tradition, tradition can not save us, like you believe, "There's only one savour and that's Christ..

9inches:
Telling truth about Martin Luther is not insult.

Again, use Catholic sources because you keep mis-characterizing what the catholic church teaches. It only keeps you arguing against your own argument because you are not arguing the opposing argument of the other person.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 5:21am On Apr 26, 2018*

Then why all the insults about Martin Luther-by you, if you believe the Catholic Church haven't a hate book, then you must have a hate book written on your heart..

9inches:
Pick any topic, let's say "Catholics worship idols" for example.

The only good luck I receive about this matter is, that most Catholic's believe bowing down to statues, helps them to believe the spirits in those statue's are watching over them-most believe as long as they have a statue of a saint. a baby Jesus or Mother Mary or a crucifix cross, it's spirit is looking after them.
Do you even believe in the spirit realm-demons come and go-through open doors, and what a prefect way-is through statues-Satan come in as the spirit of light..
3 children of Patmos, told their story of Mary standing above them-the 3 children predicted long lives, 2 died shortly after, 1 child became a nun and finished her days inside the Catholic Church, she became a saint after she died according to the Catholic tradition.
A story like this, in those day's would have fed a family for as long as it takes, One child seen a light, the other heard a voice, and the other, saw nor heard nothing, this was a great deception, and those that were seeking after Christ-took them by surprise, thousands of witnesses claimed they saw something-either a bright light or coloured lights spinning around up above them, this description is a UFO sighting, and the Catholic Church had taken all the credit for it, to raise money.

9inches:
No there's no hate book written in the Catholic Church. Infact, the Catholic Church always refers to other churches as our "separated brethren" because Christ died for everyone. I already told you not to take my word for it; do your own research on the truth and be sincere to your conscience so when you find what is true,you don't reject it out of pride or arrogance. If someone is lying to you, he would never want you to investigate what he was telling you.

Pick any topic, let's say "Catholics worship idols" for example. Look for the pentecostal teaching on that, and then check Catholic teaching from authentic Catholic website,and compare using your brain and conscience. Good luck!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:18am On Apr 26, 2018*

So the sites you have given me, are not real sites..
And my search is a waste of time-and of course I didn't learn anything positive, because the universal Church is divided-the fingers don't connect to the hand, and the hand is not connected to the forearm.
This must be the many reasons why the Catholic Church is calling for Martin Lutherings to return, because the universal Church is divided against each other.
As I read through these sites you have given me, these same sites you are now rejecting, is full of story telling people confused, having built their life foundation on tradition, rather then built their house on the rock. {Which is the Word of God}
And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.
And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.
It seems the Catholic Church is loosing it's flavor-the Church that continual's to separated inside the house of God is a Church without a backbone, it's a house divided against each other, it's a house without solid ground, it's a house that's built in the flesh, without the Spirit..

9inches:
Like I said, it's okay to get information (criticisms) from non authentic Catholic websites and sources, but make sure you get the real Catholic teaching from Catholic sources.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:33pm On Apr 25, 2018

No the stuff you have given me to search is boring, I didn't learn anything positive, and I found none of it lines up with the Word of God, it's more focus on story telling-just theories, I found the hand doesn't know what the fingers are doing, I found the Catholic Church claims to be universal, universal could mean everybody in one Church combined.
But the problem with my search is, I found that the universal Church had separated themselves from other individuals in the same Church.
Most Catholic's believe bowing down to statues, helps them to believe the spirit in those statue's are watching over them-most believe as long as they have a statue of a saint or baby Jesus or Mary or a crucifix cross, God's is looking after them.
While others say they don't bow down nor kiss the feet of these stone images, like others do.
I then read, most Catholic's don't even know the bible, let alone reading it, most say the bible is not convincing enough, most Catholic's go to Church because of a family tradition, or others wait until Easter, Christmas or special holiday's each year.
Most believe as long as they believe they had a good life-and they asked a priest to forgive their sins, they have a ticket into Heaven.
Many claim they were saved through infant baptism, many say they were saved by a savour, but others haven't the slightest idea who saved them, many say" my savour-but never say the savour.
So as I read through these sites you have given me, I find this-who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. {Which is the Word of God}
And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.
It seems the Catholic Church is loosing it's flavor-the Church that continual's to separated inside the house of God is a Church without a backbone without a leg to stand on, is a house without a solid foundation a house that's built on sand:

9inches:
I hope you are still researching what I have exposed you to. Don't give up. I know it's hitting you like a thunderbolt; that'swhat truth does, especially when you have been living Luther's lie all your life. Be courageous, tell yourself the truth instead of posturing and deceiving yourself. You can never go back to your ignorance because I have exposed you to the light. If you do not keep walking towards the truth I have pushed you to, I doubt you would feel as comfortable. Be courageous! May God be with you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:33pm On Apr 25, 2018

I am happy we are both learning! And I am happy for you, Just sometimes you do make sense-most times you don't-but this is part of learning, I have never heard anybody such as yourself so focus on Martin Luther, is their a hate book written in the Catholic Church somewhere? Is my name written in it too?

9inches:
I'm glad you're learning. Keep at it.

I just finished going through all your comments so far and I can see how much light I have shown on the Luther lies and how much you have shifted in your belief of Luther. Keep working on it and pray with sincere heart. You would only damage your conscience by telling yourself what you believe is not bad when you have admitted to some extent how wrong your belief is.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:23pm On Apr 25, 2018

You are tried of the truth-because coming here to witness, is not what you had expected-it isn't quite the same as lying to the public, "Now is it..
We are Jesus witnesses-you are Jehovah witnesses, two different teachings, two different bibles, two different gospels..

Riofidelio:
My brother i'm tired of all their nonsense and ingredients, because that's what they chose those teachers to be teaching them in accord with their thinking. 2Timothy 4:3/4

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:01pm On Apr 25, 2018*

{John 20:17-18} Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher). Jesus said to her, “Do not hold Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’” Mary Magdalene came, reporting to the disciples that she had seen the Lord and that He had said these things to her.
{Jesus had risen from the dead.}

Riofidelio:
Genesis 3:4,Ecclesiastes 3:19/20 No spirit survives a living soul after death!

{Matthew 17:2-4} There He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. Suddenly Moses and Elijah appeared before them, talking with Jesus. Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If You wish, I will put up three shelters: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”…
If no Spirit survives after the flesh dies-then explain Moses and Elijah's story, how about John in Revelation, He was in Spirit..
{Ecclesiastes 12:7} Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it..
From death In spirit we stand in front of Jesus, He who judges us, and He decides which side of the fence we stand..The only problem with your theory is, if you were to read the scriptures at anytime, it was Jesus who gave us a description about Hell, Just as much He gave us a description about Heaven..
{Matthew 13:41-43} The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness. And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.…
So don't ever think Hell isn't real-it's pumping and their are many that go in by it "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Riofidelio:
Satan said that, of course Adam died and nothing survived Adam. Death is the exact opposite of life! Resurrection is the only hope because God isn't interested in any form of punishment than removing the wicked from the surface of the Earth. So Satan lied to Eve saying "you won't die really" Eve was deceived but Adam wasn't.God's word proved true because man is simply a soul! Genesis 3:4,Ecclesiastes 3:19/20 No spirit survives a living soul after death!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 6:49am On Apr 24, 2018

We know you stay with us, because you are finely learning the truth. Stick around, because the truth will set you free, Christ had led you here for a purpose, don't fight it, enjoy it, everyone learns, and everyone benefits.

9inches:
Lol. Are you making an argument?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 6:43am On Apr 24, 2018

It's killing you! Because you know what you preach doesn't exist..

9inches:
where in scripture does it say, behold John do not bow down to your Mother, and Mother do not stand as Queen above John?

Second question master interpreter, where in scripture did Jesus command Peter, Paul the apostles with her children to not bow down before Mary while she lived?

We don't know what your answer is, so maybe you can answer that?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 6:13am On Apr 24, 2018*

Riofidelio:
Yes! They're going to hell (grave) if God's Kingdom didn't come before their death

Yes you are right, they are going to Hell spiritually, while their bodies rot in their graves!
{Matthew 25:31-33} “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
{Verse 41} “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
{Spirituality the grave is not our last stop-Spirituality our Spirits roam-either with God or with the devil and his angels, many are called but few are chosen-Judgement starts with the Church, two very populated places indeed-between 6 deep by 3 wide?}
For I was hungry for the Word of God and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty for the rivers of living water and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger destitute homeless and you did not take Me in, I was striped and cold and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

Riofidelio:
Yes! They're going to hell (grave) if God's Kingdom didn't come before their death(ecclesiastes 9:10)but if God's Kingdom comes today these beautiful,peace loving,humble,easy going, zealous preachers will live forever! John 11:23-27

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 7:07am On Apr 23, 2018

All these beautiful people heading for Hell.

Riofidelio:
God bless you, at least you acknowledged that Jehovah's witnesses are noticeable throughout the world but "the ones in Nigeria are just too wicked" Well it's the economy here that's making things difficult for Nigerians to demonstrate our faith with ease unlike JWs in advanced countries where life is easier. But one thing that's the same is the evident demonstration of realities not perceived. Hebrews 11:1 notice the difference in the pictures, a white man once asked "can blacks also practice this religion due to the economy here?" When asked why he thought so he said "i know them for their honesty but i don't think blacks could be that honest due to their poor conditions" Well Jesus said His followers will preach in all nations as final sign of the end time.Matthew 24:14 of course Jesus included that most of those practicing pure worship will also fail due to the hard conditions but only those that endures to the end will be saved! Matthew 24:12/13

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 7:04am On Apr 23, 2018

Riofidelio:
Go and do the work of the Lord, after all we won't disturb you for obeying God's word in preaching and teaching people about HIS son who is the saviour of the world.

Does this mean you do accept those outside your organisation to preach the gospel?

Riofidelio:
We're preaching and teaching people what we know and throughout the Earth we're well known for that,

Yes you are well knowing not because you preach Jehovah, it's because you have made yourselves look like fools.

Riofidelio:
please if you're not known with a group it's not our fault but yours for not being sure and confident of where you belong. We're Jehovah's witnesses!

I do belong to a group, but not the group you can see, Jesus said: His Kingdom is not of this world.

Riofidelio:
Go and do the work of the Lord, after all we won't disturb you for obeying God's word in preaching and teaching people about HIS son who is the saviour of the world. We're preaching and teaching people what we know and throughout the Earth we're well known for that,please if you're not known with a group it's not our fault but yours for not being sure and confident of where you belong. We're Jehovah's witnesses!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 10:15pm On Apr 22, 2018

You sound just like the Catholic's they praise and worships their Church with flying colours too, "This is the case when concerning religion-it's all about which denomination are we from..
Don't you know, Christ built His Church on the Word of God, the Holy Spirit reins in temples made from God, not made of brick and mortar from men.

xaggar:
And what's your business with mine?!

You are not proud to state your denomination because you are very well aware that it is nothing to be proud of!

You are not only ashamed but doubt its teaching.

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