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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 10:02pm On Apr 22, 2018

In conclusion, to your knowledge of how you see things-it is highly unlikely that “Jehovah” is the correct pronunciation of YHWH.

xaggar:
What is important is knowing that wherever the name or names are called, we all know who it is being referred to.

And as I have written before hand, it is far more important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, than it is to know the correct pronunciation of His name in Hebrew.

xaggar:
By the way, this shows that u already are aware that Jehovah refers to no one else but the Almighty.

Guessing His name won't bring you closer to Him-you should be more focused knowing "Who He is! "Which you had failed with flying colours, your main issue is about His Name, the believers have past that stage 2000 years ago, the apostles were called by God to preach about Jesus: the JW's were called by the Watchtower to preach about Jehovah's name..

xaggar:
What is the correct pronunciation of the name of God's Son? Is it Jesus, Iesous, Joshua or Yeshua? Why the variation? If vowels weren't used in the ancient Hebrew writings, why do we have the vowels "e" and "u" in His name instead of "o" and "a".

By the way, this shows that u already are aware that Jehovah refers to no one else but the Almighty.

What is important is knowing that wherever the name or names are called, we all know who it is being referred to.

For your information Jehovah or Yehovah is universally known and accepted in this modern age.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:22pm On Apr 22, 2018

{Romans 1:25} For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Riofidelio:
May Jehovah's name be praised! throughout all the earth in all nations

{John 12:13} They took the branches of the palm trees and went out to meet Him, and began to shout, "Hosanna!
BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, even the King of Israel."It say's praise the Lords name.
{Luke 1:68} "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that repentance for forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem, "Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord; Peace in heaven and glory in the highest! "And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, 'They are My people,' And they will say, 'The Lord is my God.'"
{Psalm 103:20} Bless the LORD, you His angels, Mighty in strength, who perform His word, Obeying the voice of His word!
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning..
It doesn't matter how far you jump-the Word of God will jump further, accept His Holy name; Jehovah is Jesus in the flesh:"If you can't accept it, then you don't preach the Word of God..

Riofidelio:
My brother, when i said "eyes they have but not seeing, ears they have but not hearing"(Jeremiah 5:21,Matthew 13:13) someone was saying that's too harsh,how can people with brains be pointing to a religion that's not hidden and the members proud to come out publicly to proclaim it whereas they're hiding their own religion yet they don't get the sense of what Jesus meant.Matthew 5:14 compared to Isaiah 2:2,Micah 4:1 May Jehovah's name be praised! throughout all the earth in all nations Jehovah's witnesses are known for our zealous preaching and teaching work but their own religions are in corners that's not known beyond their locality, i'm fully convinced that they knew where they belong "in the dark" so the case is settled. John 3:19-21

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:19am On Apr 22, 2018*

Isaiah 43 belongs to the JW's you say! And you don't know the nameless Church?

xaggar:
We are what Jehovah asked US to be (Isaiah 43:10). It is a name that has a task associated with it. And it is with this name WE are known. I don't know ur nameless "movement" and i believe many do not also.

When Jesus established His Church, He received instructions from Heavenly Father. He then instructed His disciples. Jesus taught His followers that revelation from God was the rock on which He would build His Church. Christ built His Church on the Word of God. I told you my Church is with other believers who totally focuses on the Word of God. I am the temple of the Holy Spirit and My Church is wherever I maybe!

xaggar:
We choose to be called Jehovah's Witnesses because God said we should be.

{Isaiah 43:10} But God said: go and preach His gospel-He never told you to call yourselves JW's and preach your own doctrine.
{1 John 2:4-5} If anyone says, “I know Him,” but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him: Whoever claims to abide in Him must walk as Jesus walked.…
And if you were really honest-and if the Holy Spirit was in your temple-He would convict you, with the crimes the Watchtower have caused many to fall away from the truth: the JW's have added and removed the scriptures, as, it is written in the Word of God!

xaggar:
We don't hide behind the " temple" description u gave even as we are temples individually;

And you say you don't hide behind a name, then explain why you said this below?

xaggar:
We choose to be called Jehovah's Witnesses because God said we should be.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the name of God is recorded as YHWH. So, where did the name “Jehovah” come from? Ancient Hebrew did not use vowels in its written form. The vowels were pronounced in spoken Hebrew but were not recorded in written Hebrew. The appropriate vowel sounds of words were passed down orally. As a result, when ancient Hebrew is studied, scholars and linguists often do not know with absolute confidence how certain Hebrew words were pronounced. This particularly becomes an issue when studying the Hebrew name of God, written in the Hebrew Scriptures as YHWH, also known as the tetragrammaton. Despite much study and debate, it is still not universally agreed upon how the Hebrew name for God YHWH was pronounced. Some prefer “Yahweh” (YAH-way); others prefer “Yehowah,” “Yahuweh,” or “Yahawah”; still others argue for “Jehovah.”
In conclusion, it is highly unlikely that “Jehovah” is the correct pronunciation of YHWH. Further, it is far more important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, than it is to know the correct pronunciation of His name in Hebrew.

xaggar:
Even if you don't have a name, tell me your deeds, where you hold your meetings for worship with like minded individuals.

So without the name, {Isaiah 43:10} Answers it quite well.

xaggar:
We are what Jehovah asked US to be (Isaiah 43:10). It is a name that has a task associated with it. And it is with this name WE are known.
I don't know ur nameless "movement" and i believe many do not also. One major reason we don't is because your discipleship task is null and redundant. The early Christians were known as and called "Christians". They never chose to be called that but they adopted it cos it was okay for them (and the meaning was synonymous with their actions). We choose to be called Jehovah's Witnesses because God said we should be.
We don't hide behind the " temple" description u gave even as we are temples individually; the acts of the apostles were evidently seen by many as they carried out the mandate commanded them by Christ which we also adhere to. It is because of our boldness to do this mandate that u are opportune to find faults. Despite these your findings or claims on US we don't hide.
Even if you don't have a name, tell me your deeds, where you hold your meetings for worship with like minded individuals.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:58pm On Apr 21, 2018

Seek and you will find, knock and it will be open-ask and it will be given-my Church is with other believers who totally focuses on the Word of God. I am the temple of the Holy Spirit and My Church is wherever I maybe!
No denomination, If I was to give you any name-you would search the net, to find fault within, but I don't have a name-the apostles didn't carry a name-nor do I need a name, Jesus said: don't cast your peals before swine-I am sure you understand this verse?
Let us pray for you..

xaggar:
Likewise you (state ur denomination). Easy to criticize hiding behind the "annonimity" provided by the internet/nairaland.

Are u not confident of your church?

BE PROUD OF WHERE U WORSHIP!
STATE ITS NAME!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:17pm On Apr 21, 2018

Let us pray for you!

xaggar:
Hairyrapunzel...if you are bold or believe in what u say, why not tell us the name of your denomination & pls don't tell us the excuse of "I don't need to belong to any".
This forum provides enough avenue for u to hide your identity (your monicker, no picture etc), why get ashamed of stating the name of your denomination so we could understand where u coming from.

Be bold, be proud of your denomination, say it like u mean it!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:02pm On Apr 21, 2018

Jehovah's Witnesses began around 1870, originated as a branch of the Bible Student movement, which developed in the United States in the 1870s among followers of Christian Restorationist minister Charles Taze Russell. Bible Student missionaries were sent to England in 1881 and the first overseas branch was opened in London in 1900.
The group took on the name International Bible Students Association and by 1914 it was also active in Canada, Germany, Australia and other countries.
The movement split into several rival organizations after Russell's death in 1916, with one—led by Russell's successor, Joseph "Judge" Rutherford—retaining control of both his magazine, The Watch Tower, and his legal and publishing corporation, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.
So now we have the insights about JW's being in service.

Riofidelio:
Jesus is the Spiritual Temple that's now standing firm for all lovers of pure worship! This Most Holy Temple was erected the very day Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

{1 Corinthians 6:19-20} Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.…

Riofidelio:
Jesus is the Spiritual Temple that's now standing firm for all lovers of pure worship!

You have said it yourself-We now know the Holy Spirit is a Living Spirit Being; and the Holy Spirit is not just an active force, the Holy Spirit is living in His Church body of believers, teaching them all things.
Hairyrapunzel: is of that body of believers-and you would like to know which Church He belongs..I am in my Church now: witnessing to people like you, preaching to you the Word of God. Jesus is the Spiritual Temple-not made of brick and mortar...

Riofidelio:
My people will say "omo ale lon fi owo osi juwe ile baba re" meaning "bastards often denies their origin" If our "8 old men in New York" has failed US, we're the ones that will notice it and deny haven to do with them not you an outsider! But we're solidly behind them because we know they're the origin of what we know today, why not publicly established your own origin and stop being obstinate in stupidity? You're not from Israel so even a deaf and dumb can understand that whatever you (a black man from Africa) is saying about Jesus must have come to you through a source! Our governing body is the origin of what we know today and we're proud to say it anywhere anytime before anybody! The wisdom in their teaching has done a lot across the globe so tell US who are your teachers that taught a black man like you what happened in far away Israel some 2,000 years ago! Your lies can deceive a confused dullard like yourself and not sensible individuals, nobody will believe you that a spirit taught you what the founder of a movement actually sent real people to go and teach other people! Matthew 10:3-22

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 8:52am On Apr 21, 2018*

Riofidelio:
Jesus is the Spiritual Temple that's now standing firm for all lovers of pure worship! This Most Holy Temple was erected the very day Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

You did say Spiritual!

Riofidelio:
Jesus is the Spiritual Temple that's now standing firm for all lovers of pure worship! This Most Holy Temple was erected the very day Jesus was resurrected from the dead.Satan immediately arranged for the Antichrist to replace it but the Temple remains since it's Spiritual and nobody can demolish it.

So the temple is still Spiritual!

Riofidelio:
Today millions are flocking into that Temple from all nations of the Earth(Isaiah 2:2-4)

Which temple are we all flocking too?

Riofidelio:
but as for Satan's fabrication it's secrets has been blown open that's why none of you can CONFIDENTLY point to your religion (fake temples) as a true places of worship! And shamelessly you're grouping together for the demolition of the Temple that's standing firm,having millions of dedicated faithful worshippers.Psalms 2:1-4

What Do the Satanic Temple and Jehovah’s Witnesses Have in Common? They Are Champions Against Government Inculcation of Belief.

Riofidelio:
Well if you must know our own leaders have proved beyond every reasonable doubt that they're are the true Jews prophesied about in Zechariah 8:23,so if your own leaders have betrayed your trust it's no big deal come and let's grab the skirt of these Jews(JWs) for we have heard and seen that Jehovah is with them!

The JW's can't even accept their own bible-and you believe the JW's are the chosen-you and Catholic's, speak the same lingo, they believe they are the chosen vessels, none of the above is true! "This is way out of your league, believing you are Jews not Gentiles, you people can't even accept the Word of God, without changing it, works of Jewish tradition comes before the fall-claiming to the world Jehovah is, Jehovah was, and Jehovah is coming back, you so called denominations are all the same, none of you truly believe "He is the Christ..
Your little god will sit on his throne-when they build the third temple in Israel soon..
{Revelation 22:18-21} For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
These are the warning's you continual to disobey.
I Am Coming Quickly, He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. NWT JW Bible..

Riofidelio:
Jesus is the Spiritual Temple that's now standing firm for all lovers of pure worship! This Most Holy Temple was erected the very day Jesus was resurrected from the dead.Satan immediately arranged for the Antichrist to replace it but the Temple remains since it's Spiritual and nobody can demolish it. Today millions are flocking into that Temple from all nations of the Earth(Isaiah 2:2-4) but as for Satan's fabrication it's secrets has been blown open that's why none of you can CONFIDENTLY point to your religion (fake temples) as a true places of worship! And shamelessly you're grouping together for the demolition of the Temple that's standing firm,having millions of dedicated faithful worshippers.Psalms 2:1-4 Well if you must know our own leaders have proved beyond every reasonable doubt that they're are the true Jews prophesied about in Zechariah 8:23,so if your own leaders have betrayed your trust it's no big deal come and let's grab the skirt of these Jews(JWs) for we have heard and seen that Jehovah is with them!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:32pm On Apr 20, 2018*

Since you believe you are the master bible reader-then you should answer questions with ease.
{John 19:26-27} When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, here is your son.” Then He said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” So from that hour, this disciple took her into his home.…
Now we know Jesus was talking to John, and as you believe you are the master bible reader-then you should be able to answer-where in scripture does it say, behold John bow down to your Mother, and Mother stand as Queen above John?
Second question master reader, where in scripture did Jesus command Peter, Paul the apostles with her children to bow down before Mary while she lived?
We already know what your answer is; the apostles taught this through tradition before the bible was written..

9inches:
Stop trying to pivot. No one is asking you to befriend Lizzie. Go and learn the truth, stop living in denial. Learn your bible, stop reading it like a novel.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:02pm On Apr 20, 2018

A young lady beating me up-that young lady is beating you up-My learning time is interesting, Lucifer sits in the Vatican, while Pope Francis sits on his left, listen I know, its killing you, to hear the truth, but don't worry there's more..

9inches:
Just hear yourself out ranting as if a young lady beat you up. Go and learn the Word of God. You are wasting your learning time here.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:22pm On Apr 20, 2018*

You may call it our religion, and you say we hide behind it, but what you aren't realising the Word of God belongs to God! "Everything belongs to God..
We are not JW's, nor are we Catholic's-nor Seven day Adventist, we are strictly bible believing 'servants, soldiering on, preaching God's truth across the nations. We stand on the Word of God, preaching it, like there's no tomorrow!
"We don't need to change it, we don't need to twist it, we preach it, the way it is written, the way God tells us to preach it.
No matter what persecutions we endure-no matter how many JW's persecute us, we will stand and rebuke and pray to our Father who art in Heaven, anointing us, giving us strength, wisdom and Godly knowledge with power of the Holy Spirit, against our enemy, and as we believers walk through the shadow of death, we fear no evil.
JW's pouncing around like raven wolves, dressed in sheep clothing, preaching doctrines of men, standing "against" the Word of God, professing to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work. {Titus 1:16}
{1 Timothy 3:6-8} {JW's} are the kind who worm their way into households and captivate vulnerable people who are weighed down with sins and led astray by various passions, {JW's} always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also {JW's} oppose the truth. They are depraved in mind and disqualified from the faith..

Riofidelio:
Shamelessly you're all hiding your various failed religions but crying like children on social media to condemn any well established religion that's standing firm! What a pity,please just make sure that you're sincerely of good share,farewell!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 12:16am On Apr 20, 2018

Do you really believe hating someone with a passion will draw you closer to God?
"Hail Mother of God I repent, Holy Mother forgive me, I don't think so-you are a lost soul-trying to work your way into heaven-you believe there is one God, good, even the demons believe and tremble.{James 2:19}

9inches:
I always do that.

Lizzie's new way of Praying "Hail Mother of God I repent, do you actually believe a priest have the same authority, as Jesus, He is the only one who can forgive sins.
Do you believe praying Holy Mother forgive me, for I have sinned against you-and your Church-will wash your sins away-you had left God for this, I pray-Mother of God, my Mediator between myself and God, for I am your servant, Holy Mary Mother of God I bow down to thee.
Lizzie you claim to know the scriptures, but do you honestly believe repenting to your priest is repenting to God: at the same time, You had left God for this-your new method of praying is only traditional hogwash created by Catholic's that still practice pagan religion, Catholic's that worships Lucifer under Oath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1VyVQQdaDQ

9inches:
I don't think so. You don't have answer me; answer it for yourself. That's even better.
There is no more than one church my friend. Accept the truth and live.
"I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one" (John 17:22). That was Jesus talking to His Father in Heaven.
"...and on this rock I will build My church" (Matt 16:18).
The Lord purchased the church "with his own blood" (Acts 20:28).
Christ is "the head of the body, the church" (Colossians 1:18).
"And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all" (Ephesians 1:22-23).
Stop hardening your heart to the Word of God, the traditions of the Apostles and the early Christians. Abandon your Martin Luther's tradition. “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts, as you did in the rebellion" (Hebrews 3:15).
Great! Amen!
Sure, I always do that.
hmm.. I greet you oga prophet.
Amen. We all do.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:54pm On Apr 19, 2018*

If you really like Lizzie then prove it by praying for her' to bring her back to Christ! Leaving God' behind to follow after another , isn't her best choice! She left the Church to become a sun worshipper, bowing down to other god's-hail Mary Mother of God.
"Yes we all like Lizzie..She needs to be saved, and come into the knowledge of Christ, knowledge comes from the Word of God.
{Proverbs 2: 5-7} Then you will discern the fear of the LORD And discover the knowledge of God. For the LORD gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding. He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; He is a shield to those who walk in integrity,…
{Proverbs 19:1} Better is a poor man who walks in his integrity Than he who is perverse in speech and is a fool.

Ubenedictus:
lol

just liked her channel

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 12:19pm On Apr 19, 2018

Just like you-I need to be dumbfounded-I need to be a lost cause, I need my head red-I need to cast my peals before swine, I need to follow tradition, I need to be saved in the Catholic Church, I need to walk away from God-I need to bow down before statues of Mary, I need to pray to dead saint's, I need to accept I am not reading bible truth. And what tops it off, I need to be friends with Lizzie.
I say it again-I am not interested about 9 inches bragging about Lizzie, or visa versa, Lizzie bragging about 9 inches.

9inches:
Right, you're not interested. Stop misquoting the scripture out of ignorance. Fear God, go and learn the Word of God my friend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:54am On Apr 19, 2018*

Don't casts your peals before swine, Lizzie keep on lying-you will keep on dying.

9inches:
I don't think so. You don't have answer me; answer it for yourself. That's even better.
There is no more than one church my friend. Accept the truth and live.
"I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one" (John 17:22). That was Jesus talking to His Father in Heaven.
"...and on this rock I will build My church" (Matt 16:18).
The Lord purchased the church "with his own blood" (Acts 20:28).
Christ is "the head of the body, the church" (Colossians 1:18).
"And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all" (Ephesians 1:22-23).
Stop hardening your heart to the Word of God, the traditions of the Apostles and the early Christians. Abandon your Martin Luther's tradition. “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts, as you did in the rebellion" (Hebrews 3:15).
Great! Amen!
Sure, I always do that.
hmm.. I greet you oga prophet.
Amen. We all do.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:24am On Apr 19, 2018

You are mistaken-We did not come on this forum, because preaching is easy, we came here to spread the truth: We don't care if you refuse it, it's your problem, because all of us will someday stand in front of Jesus, sitting on His throne judging everything we have done.
{2 Corinthians 5:9 11} So we aspire to please Him, whether we are here in this body or away from it.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad. "Therefore, since we know what it means to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are, is clear to God, and I hope it is clear to your conscience as well.
But you are not concerned about that-the truth is, you refuse the truth, not because you know the truth-you refuse the truth-but it's your truth, and that truth is not God's truth..

Riofidelio:
Hairyrapunzel and brocab ,dear friends, We've been warned repeatedly that it's not going to be easy preaching and teaching honesthearted people about our Heavenly King and His rules but it's OK we're battle prepared to stand for Him no matter what the Devil does with his agents.Matthew 10:17-22,Act 5:40-42 Revelations 12:17 So it's needless arguing without reasoning thanks for contributing to this discussion God bless you all!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 9:35pm On Apr 18, 2018

It's like saying Many are called but few are chosen, but who are the chosen? And who are the Christians you believe belong to the kingdom of God, besides your just 144000?
If the JW' were true to their word in the first place, and they were to preach the gospel, as it is written in the scriptures, you wouldn't feel uneasied, while preaching the truth, Christian's don't go against you, because you preach, they are against you, because you lie against the truth.
If the JW's were true to the Word-and if they received the Holy Spirit-then they would practice, His truth, without walking in fear from the world.

Riofidelio:
"For God so love the world that HE gave HIS only begotten Son that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life" John 3:16 Please if you agree with this statement then you're saying billions not Christians will perish! Just the same thing you're criticizing Jehovah's witnesses for! Perhaps you'll stop saying this to avoid criticism from none Christians!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:32am On Apr 18, 2018*

The last time I had looked at {Matthew 28:19} Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
Firstly the JW's believe the Holy Spirit, is an active force-so obviously they wouldn't be preaching the above-there's no other god besides Jehovah.

Riofidelio:
so if you're so sure that what's running in your system is Holy please go and meet people in their homes Just as Jesus as commanded. Matthew 28:19

It seems you have rewritten the bible once again, I didn't know "God command Christians to go from door to door preaching the gospel?
If anything, I believe someone had misinterpreted {Acts 20:20} not translating the rest of the scriptures, using this as an accuse to contradict how Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom from house to house, to those who were unconverted.
But when we read the entire paragraph, {verse 17} it's quite clear "Paul “sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the Church,” saying to them, “I…have taught you publicly, and from house to house.”
Which means he taught the Church leaders in their own homes., as we read Paul did not go from house to house, teaching whomever answered the door.
Besides, Jesus said: don't cast your pearls before swine {Matthew 7:6}

Riofidelio:
Exactly! The Holy Spirit and the unholy Spirit can't be together, so if you're so sure that what's running in your system is Holy please go and meet people in their homes Just as Jesus as commanded. Staying in doors watching TV or computer is like disobedience to the command of a King who's command says "GO!" Matthew 28:19

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 6:57pm On Apr 17, 2018

I think, you already know-who's against cults. The differences you claim to have-and the Word of God, is to far apart between them both, no one on this forum had said anything new-how the world see's the Watchtower to be.
{Matthew 7:6} “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
{James 1:21-26} If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
Everyone who claims to be religious. and does not bring the Word of God to the people-this one religion is useless..Meaning: it's not by works alone but by faith-because works without faith is dead...
Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

Riofidelio:
Whatever you have against Jehovah's witnesses must be the same thing those ancient enemies of God had against HIS people because i've repeatedly told you that Jehovah decides what will happen HIS witnesses only warns those against Jehovah. Noah told his contemporaries the same thing so try to think as a normal person what can Noah do if some of them are asking him this question of yours. We are not to fight it's Jehovah that will do according to HIS decision and nothing we can do about it other than just to warn those on the opposition side! Exodus 14:14/15.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:40pm On Apr 17, 2018

Is this now a trick question?
I believe Christ is the head of the Church-but He is not the head of your Church only..
I believe there are true believers, that preaches Christ inside the Catholic Church-but I don't believe you are any of them.
I believe you need to repent, and cry out unto the Lord, and ask Him to forgive you.
I believe you are standing alone-at a cross road, not knowing which direction to go.
I believe the Lord's calling you-but the desires of your heart, had blinded you.
I believe you have time-seek and you will find, knock and it will be open, ask, and it will be given, say's the Lord..

9inches:
So do you believe now that the Church is God's household and the pillar and foundation of truth and without the Church would not have the bible you have now?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:14pm On Apr 17, 2018*

I am not interested..
{Matthew 7:6} “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
I do hope you know what the above is saying to you Liz>your full time rejections against the Word of God, is casting you further away from the truth.

9inches:
Which part of her argument or the bible verses do you want to argue against?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:07pm On Apr 17, 2018

The Spirit in Jehovah's witnesses is the Spirit of the world" that's not just my conclusion, the world knows it's own, and what usually happens when a JW comes to my door, I talk to them about Jesus-I then count the seconds before they leave, and just before they leave they pass me a watchtower magazine, God bless, with a little smile, and they never return to my neighbourhood again.
I don't know about you, but when Christians get together-all they have in common is Jesus, we walk and we talk the same doctrine -but when I talk with JW's they runaway-because the spirit that is in them, is not the same Holy Spirit that is in me.
And if the JW's were wise, they would know preaching the truth, will set them free.

Riofidelio:
Good! You've already answered the question asked initially "what you'll do if Jehovah's witnesses come to knock your door?" and most people reading must have noticed your comments as your PERSONAL opinion just like what you just concluded, please allow others to comment because you can't decide for everyone after making your own decision! "The Spirit in Jehovah's witnesses is the Spirit of the world" that's your conclusion, thanks for the contribution your comments are well noted God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 5:19am On Apr 17, 2018

If it said the Catholic Church-then I wouldn't have an argument, but sadly for you, the argument remains.

9inches:
So what does it say if not that the Church is God's household and the pillar and foundation of truth?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 5:14am On Apr 17, 2018

Ha ha ha-now this is funny-man read your bible, If "1 Timothy is about Old testament, then who gave Lizzie the authority to preach the gospel?
Lizzie needs to go back to kindergarten and learn how to glue and paste.
{1 Timothy 2:12} "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent."
Paul wrote to Timothy to encourage him in his responsibility for overseeing the work of the Ephesian church and possibly the other churches in the province of Asia {1 Timothy 1:3} This letter lays the foundation for ordaining elders
{1 Timothy 3:1-7} provides guidance for ordaining people into offices of the church.
{1 Timothy 3:8-13} In essence, 1 Timothy is a leadership manual for church organization and administration.
{1 Timothy 2:5, 1 Timothy 2:12, 1 Timothy 3:1-2, 1 Timothy 4:9-10, 1 Timothy 6:12} "Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses."
The Tradition Paul wrote were the first letter Paul wrote to Timothy, Paul begins the letter by urging Timothy to be on guard for false teachers and false doctrine.
However, much of the letter deals with pastoral conduct warnings about false teachers, and the church’s responsibility toward single members, widows, elders, and slaves. All throughout the letter, Paul encourages Timothy to stand firm, to persevere, and to remain true to his calling. in Christ..
So in your case-Lizzie know it all-it won't matter how much the bible shows you, you will never see it coming-stop reading comic books.

9inches:
Just 1hour ago, Lizzie made new video for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF9wyXW-CxA

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:36am On Apr 17, 2018

{1 Timothy 3:15} say's nothing about your Church-Lizzie, you need to grow up, and listen to facts not fiction..

9inches:
Check the first paragraph of where you copied your argument. It says

Listen to what Jesus said about His church:
(1 Timothy 3:15) "But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth."

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:31am On Apr 17, 2018

9inches:
You got caught dude. I told you earlier you can copy something and expantiate on itto make your point,but not copying almost someone's entire argument.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:09am On Apr 17, 2018

What is your aim? Is it only to insult me publicly, we already know-you don't follow Word, you follow tradition, and tradition Paul preached, isn't the tradition you are preaching to me..

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:04am On Apr 17, 2018

Hypocrite" you have done the same thing, is copied..

9inches:
Again, the person who wrote this does not know what the Catholic Church teaches. You copied someone else's argument from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yptbDYKmFc

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:53am On Apr 17, 2018

And what was Paul's teachings, he taught the tradition on the Word of God, and how you must receive the Holy Spirit and go out unto all the nations and preach the gospel.
{2 Thessalonians 2:15} So then, brothers (and sisters), stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.” Paul urges the Thessalonians to “not be easily shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter…” They were not to be deceived by anyone or any false word or practice {vs. 3}
They were being disturbed by reports that the Lord had come {vs. 1} The Thessalonians had become Christians through the preaching of the Apostle Paul {Acts 17:1–9}
The church at Thessalonica comprised Jews and Gentiles, They then imitated Paul and the Lord {1 Thessalonians 1:6, 2:14}
The Gospel had come to them in power and by the Holy Spirit with full conviction {1 Thessalonians 1:5}
They not only had received God’s Word with joy, but also were spreading the Gospel themselves, and they had gained a reputation for their evangelizing {1 Thessalonians 1:8}
So they received what Paul told them and then spread it everywhere they went. The power of the Word rests in the power of a transformed life. The Gospel saves and delivers. Paul tells the Thessalonians that when they received the Gospel from Paul and his companions, they actually received the Word not as from men but as the Word of God {1 Thessalonians 2:13}
Paul’s traditions then would have to do with what he passed on to them, either as something directly from the Old Testament or something that he said or wrote. Think of the offices of elders and deacons in the early church.
They are grounded in the Old Testament practices and teaching, yet in the New Testament, are completely new.{Just like you are}
In the Old Testament, the prophets and scribes taught and the priests ministered or served. In the church, the elders teach and the deacons serve.
So really the Catholic Church is based on Church tradition, these are not because they are any use for anybody outside the Church-just traditions you have been taught-from childhood-It's just like today the Christian Church is being inundated by new ideas, new traditions, Paul preached tradition to keep the Church in order. Nothing more then that. But Catholic's believe traditions of works brings them closer to God..

9inches:
Are you saying 2 Thessalonians 2:15 is not correct? Do you still believe the verse says Scripture alone?

How are you sure what you heard from those people including me is authoritative teaching of the Church?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:44am On Apr 17, 2018

Is Catholicism a false religion? Are Catholics saved?"
Let study and find the right answer to this very question: The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation.
The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation {John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9}.
The Roman Catholic Church rejects this.
The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive the Eucharist along with the other sacraments AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND perform meritorious works AND not die with any mortal sins AND etc., etc., etc.
Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues, salvation, means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion.
If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. Any claim that works or rituals must be added to faith in order for salvation to be achieved is a claim that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to fully purchase our salvation.
While salvation by faith is the most crucial issue, in comparing Roman Catholicism with the Word of God, there are many other differences and contradictions as well.
The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in disagreement with what the Bible declares. These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the pope / papacy, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, the sacramental system, and purgatory.
While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any solid foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles.
At the same time, the Catholic Church also leads many people away from a genuine faith relationship with Christ.
The unbiblical beliefs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church have often given the enemies of Christ opportunity to blaspheme.
The Roman Catholic Church is not the church that Jesus Christ established.
It is not a church that is based on the teachings of the Apostles (as described in the Book of Acts and the New Testament epistles).
While Jesus’ words in {Mark 7:9} were directed towards the Pharisees, they accurately describe the Roman Catholic Church, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!”

9inches:
You're the one jumping around fretting over Mary. I knew that since your could not understand simple teaching of Paul about Scripture and Tradition and how the Word of God is supposed to be taught, and also to help you understand there is no salvation outside the Church because salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body. This should be easier for you to understood first of all before your deliberate diversionary tactics to evade the truth.

(John 15:22) "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin; but as it is they have no excuse for their sin." You've been spoken to, you now have no excuse for following Martin Luther.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:17am On Apr 17, 2018

Yes through you, and the many Catholic's I have spoken to in the passed, I have even retrieved my info from those sites you had given me.
If the Catholic's read the bible-instead of searching through other literature, then everything they say, would be correct.
But the problem,is, just like you, you don't believe in the Word of God well enough to search through the scriptures, you expect me to believe every word you say: and not every Word God says.
It seems you don't know what these sites hold-and what information I had retrieved from them-the main issue here is, I have found these sites, full of Catholic's having their own appointed opinions, just to be recognised on the net.
None of it, has anything to do with God..

9inches:
That's how you know what Catholics believe?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:57pm On Apr 16, 2018

According to the JW's the Holy Spirit is just an active force-meaning to say: it can only developed a maximum and then decreases..
{Galatians 5:22-23} But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
This just proves your literature is false {1 John 4:4} greater is He who is in you, than he who is in the world.
So the spirit that is in you, is the spirit in the world, that speaks from the world, and the world listens to you.

Riofidelio:
Once you are surely doing fine in the work of the Lord, any effective technique is welcome! As long as those you're teaching are displaying the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit. Gal 5:22/23 So my friend the evidence is their it's you that can't see it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:40pm On Apr 16, 2018*

The only problem I am having with your remarks, is, most of the time, you expect me to read about tradition rather then read the Word of God.
Most of the time I comeback to you quickly, but this time I didn't..Mostly because, you comeback with unbiblical, none scriptural tradition-you claim to be a Christian-but your main focus is Mary and the apostles, less focus on Christ..
You refuse everything I have told you about bible knowledge, you can't accept the Word of God-you have been taught tradition, and nothing else will penetrate through that..
If you are expecting me to learn about anything, then Christ is always the centre of the conversation., Without Christ, you haven't a leg to stand on, anybody that expects someone to learn about religion or tradition, then Christ is always the main attraction..
You must know by now-we don't follow the same tradition-to you-Mary is the centre of everything-to me-Christ is the centre! "The Mary that's written in the bible, is not the same Mary-you worship by Roman tradition.."We actually worship and pray too, two different God's..

9inches:
You seem not to read my comments. You gloss over them.

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