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Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:15pm On Apr 12, 2018

So what you are saying, I have been against your Church from the beginning-I haven't once wanted to claim the Catholic Church to be my home.
I don't find the Catholic Church, to be anything other then a place of pagan worship, Hail Mary Mother of God-is a lie-I wouldn't dare to pray to another, other then Christ Himself. And I wouldn't dare to leave God: He saved me, and the Catholic Church has no place in my heart-to claim I even belong to them.
Now you are accusing me for attacking the People belonging to Christ! No I am against the authority of Churches that preaches false doctrines, Churches that are leading people away from Christ-teaching them tradition rather then teaching them the truth.
You say Martin Luther-I say the Catholic Church-had broken all the rules-teaching the doctrines of men-rather then preaching the truth about Christ.
Praying through false god's-traditions of mass, praying through the rosaries Hail Mary Mother of God-Queen of heaven, purgatory or indulgence, to pay the price from hell-the forgiveness from a priest, bowing down and kissing the feet of statues, and claiming this is all done in the name of the apostles of Christ.. Hmmmmm...

9inches:
Deflection! You are not implying that the guaranteed presence of God in Christ's Church till the end of time is false, are you? Any attack on the Church is attack on the Apostles and Jesus Himself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:22pm On Apr 12, 2018

Hmmm and you believe you have more knowledge-learning in bible schools, without having the Holy Spirit teaching you?
And this is why you pray to the dead saints-Hail Mary Mother of God. Is the bible wrong?

9inches:
"To be" part of the Body of Christ... hmm. When you can hardly understand any verse of the Scriptue

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:19pm On Apr 12, 2018

I will repeat myself: Hail Mother of God, bless thee, thy servant, pray for thee thy Husband God, and thank thee Jesus, I bow my knees-down to thee Mary Mother of God, Queen of heaven.
Martin Luther had good reasons to turn away from these traditions, the Catholic Church had laid heavy burdens upon their Church.
And now you expect me, to accept these heavy burdens to bow down too-Hail Mary Mother of God-Queen of heaven-through the Rosaries-praying upon dead saints to pray to God for thee-and giving money for my indulgence, and purgatory, so my soul can be brought for a price.
The above I can do without-Jesus made away for us to go straight into the throne room of God, God is not the God of the dead, He is the God of the living, for all live to Him.” {Luke 20:38}

9inches:
Deflection! You are not implying that the guaranteed presence of God in Christ's Church till the end of time is false, are you? Any attack on the Church is attack on the Apostles and Jesus Himself.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:35pm On Apr 12, 2018

Who did Jesus send to help us understand the scriptures-the Holy Spirit, but without the Spirit-then you are not preaching the truth.
{Revelation 22:17-19} And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
And every determination who decides to take away and removes the scriptures from the Word of God, and don't preach His doctrine, is removed from the presents of God.

Riofidelio:
God is the one employing workers for Jesus, He only train US to become skilled in His father's work.John 6:44 Please just present your CV and allow others submit theirs as well, you can't apply for a job and at the same time be inspecting others CV. Satan is the one who stood as God's Chief enemy, he's behind the Spirit saying "stop the presentations" as for God's Holy Spirit it's always saying "come".Revelations 22:17 So if you merit the job you'll be employed to work with God, today God has given America the chance to rule as the "last world power" because they championed FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION,Romans and English lost because they allowed Satan to use them in silencing pure worship! So if you're truly for Jesus just make your presentation and allow others too God is the one who approves the CVs,you can only be scared if you're sure that your CV doesn't merit the job!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:13pm On Apr 12, 2018*

You keep on calling me your brother-then if I am your brother, then at least listen to what I have to say: I have not found in the scriptures where God had handed His work over to the JW's, without His Holy Spirit guiding your way-His disciples I know, but who are you?
It seems you are trying to make your way to be with the Lord 'through a back door, Jesus said: one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God. He also said: “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” {John 14:15}
I have been trying to catch up to your mumble jumble-you say in writing you believe Jesus is God, because the scriptures told you, and then you deny it's true? How are you expecting me to have a written conversation with you-when not only I 'myself, can keep up with you, when you are confused too.
It isn't worth your wild claiming to us you are sent by Jesus to preach your watchtower magazine gospel-we don't believe in cartoons of Doctor Do Little, living on an island with families of JW's talking to the animals! "This isn't the commandments Christ sent you out to do.
We take Jesus seriously, we don't have enough time spreading stories around to the neighbourhoods, you must know we solemnly believe in Christ-and we have only one mission-to preach the gospel, Christ had sent us out to do..
If your interested to learn, then fill free to read on, trying to draw people on your door to door spree away from Christ-without the knowledge of the Holy Spirit, "really" you have grafted yourself deeper into a dead tree..

Riofidelio:
Let me tell you a sacred secret! Jesus has come to inspect all forms of worship and chosen a group that's ever ready to adjust,He's God's son not anyone else so whoever wants to become a skilled witness must be humble meaning to admit when you erred and be willing to accept discipline! That's why He handed over His father's work to US, it was rough and tough back then when we began during the 19th/20th centuries as International Bible Students but today we're now known worldwide as Jehovah's witnesses adequately competent and completely equipped as Christian Soldiers.2Timothy 3:16/17

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 8:43am On Apr 12, 2018*

Jw's started way before I even come on the seine, and your qualifications came from books-Charles Russell had written-and his books had little to do with the bible, and it shows you don't even study your own bible, I can find you scriptures in your bible-to prove it says Jesus is God-plus no one said anything about Jesus not being God's Son, we don't worship the same God as you do, we don't bow down to archangels, like you do.
{Hebrews 1:1-14} God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
The Son Exalted Above Angels, For to which of the angels did He ever say:“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”? And again:“I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”?
But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
And of the angels He says: “Who makes His angels spirits, And His ministers a flame of fire.”But to the Son "He" {God says} : “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You, With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”And: “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment; Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed.
But You are the same, And Your years will not fail.” But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”? Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

So before you start judging what we believe in, maybe it's best to look into your own paradise and listen and learn, whom the JW's believe who Jesus is.
NWT Bible {Revelation 4:8} As for the four living creatures, each one of them had six wings; they were full of eyes all around and underneath.o And continuously, day and night, they say: “Holy, holy, holy is Jehovah*p God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is coming.”
{Revelation 22:20} “The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly.’”“Amen! Come, Lord Jesus."

{We take Jesus seriously, looking at the scriptures above, it proves God the Father had given Jesus the same authority as Himself} God called His Son God! God said: Jesus laid the foundations of the earth and the heavens are the Work of Jesus's hands; listen
Jesus isn't a comic book magazine-Jesus is divine just as much as His Father and the Holy Spirit, they are One. There Is One God, the Father...and One Lord, Jesus Christ"

xaggar:
We rejected most of your teachings even before you knew about us.
So Jesus is no longer God's Son? What type of belief do you guys dwell in?!!!
Its a good thing you are aware of what the 144,000 is all about in accordance with our teaching which is the bibles'.
Kindly tell us your own understanding on what the 144,000 stands for in cognizance of the prayer; "let your kingdom come, let your will be done here on earth as it is in Heaven".
You aren't qualified to qualify any group as Christian because your knowledge about Christianity is just a "surface" knowledge!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 3:51am On Apr 12, 2018

So you believe we have the same bible knowledge with the JW's, think again? I assure you we don't line up with each other..
Jehovah’s Witnesses (hereafter JWs) consider themselves to be Christians (but not Protestants), even though they reject the doctrine of the Trinity. JWs claim that Jesus was not divine and that the Holy Spirit is an “active force” and not a person.
JWs believe that Jesus is God's only direct creation, “the firstborn of all creation” and therefore rightly entitled to be called the “son of God.” However, they believe that as a created being “he is not part of a Trinity.”
JWs believe that the kingdom of God is a real government in heaven that will soon replace human governments and accomplish God’s purpose for the earth. They believe that Jesus is the King of God’s kingdom in heaven and that he began ruling in 1914.
A relatively small number of people—144,000—will be resurrected to live with Jehovah in heaven and rule with Jesus in the kingdom.
So claiming: the JW's line up with bible Christians, you are barking up the wrong tree..

xaggar:
We believe in Christ all the same; we never said we don't. That's why we go out preaching.
Maybe you should also go out preaching too. You think many shares your views $ belief. You'll be surprised at what you encounter.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:00am On Apr 12, 2018*

Hail Mother of God, bless thee, thy servant, pray for thee thy Husband God, and thank thee Jesus, I bow my knees-down to thee Mary Mother of God, Queen of heaven.
Martin Luther had good reasons to turn away from these traditions, the Catholic Church had laid heavy burdens upon their Church.
And now you expect me, to accept these heavy burdens to bow down too-Hail Mary Mother of God-Queen of heaven-through the Rosaries-talking with dead saints to pray to God for thee-and giving money for my indulgence, and purgatory, so my soul can be brought for a price.
The above I can do without-Jesus made away for us to go straight into the throne room of God, God is not the God of the dead, He is the God of the living, for all live to Him.” {Luke 20:38}

9inches:
You're preaching the gospel of Martin Luther since you believe his doctrine of Scripture alone with no apostolic tradition. You are practicing the tradition of men.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:34am On Apr 12, 2018*

I am already one to be part of the body of Christ-and I have already receive the Holy Spirit, but I am not part of a denomination 'the Catholic Church-and if you believe witnessing to you using scriptures to just prove I am a Christian, you are barking up the wrong tree.
If it wasn't for God in my life, I wouldn't be having this conversation with you in the first place, 'Because it doesn't make sense trying to learn something without a purpose, just like you have done just by works.

9inches:
If it takes only the Spirit in you to read and understand the bible, why are there bible schools? If Christianity is 'easy' to understand, why do people study theology? Use your God-given brain and think!

You do believe we don't need the Spirit of God to learn-we can learn through bible schools, well allow me to answer this for you, bible schools wouldn't be bible schools if God wasn't in the picture in the first place-and to receive proper knowledge just like the apostles received the Holy Spirit-they gained the hidden knowledge written in the Word of God, Just like we gain it, from God Himself..

9inches:
I only want you to become part of the Body of Christ so that you will be a beneficiary of the gifts of His Holy Spirit. And stop thinking that throwing around bible quotes without context makes you a Christian. Use your brain. Ignorance is bliss!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:15am On Apr 12, 2018

And then what happens if your heart deceives you?
{Matthew 15:17-19} “Do you not yet realize that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then is eliminated? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a man. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, and slander.
And already you have it against Uben with a passion..

Riofidelio:
Haaaaaaaaa so you can talk, na wa o! I'm a student trained by Jesus,

You mean you were trained by the Watchtower.

Riofidelio:
Haaaaaaaaa so you can talk, na wa o! I'm a student trained by Jesus, He's the one who taught me that it's only those who have something in their hearts that pour it out through their mouth. Luke 6:45 And since you said you're not interested in what we're discussing but remembered the story of Henry, it's logical to conclude that you've got nothing to contribute during biblical topics!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:01am On Apr 12, 2018

Until they black list you for eternity?

Riofidelio:
WHATEVER! If you truly want to learn,my brothers and sisters are coming to knock your door welcome them in and HUMBLY and POLITELY listen to them, whatever you hear from them is the answer you'll hear from Jehovah's witnesses throughout the world!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:55am On Apr 12, 2018

You believe we believe in the same God-Do you believe Jesus is God, just like the Word of God had witnessed Him to be..
Or do you believe the archangel Micheal is Jesus is a god in the flesh, came down to be the son of God, just like you teach Him to be.

Riofidelio:
If you think i don't believe God's word and i also think you don't believe God's word either then we must leave the judgement in God's hands! As for me i'm happy that i've adequately and competently defended my Faith, and i think you too should feel the same without resentment!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:06pm On Apr 11, 2018

Because xaggar: is now one of your groupies, don't let this go to your head, everything you think you are teaching, doesn't line up with anything we have said.
If you are really seeking after Knowledge try believing in Christ first.

Riofidelio:
My friends Hairyrapunzel and brocab, please i'm not trying to play a smart one or say you guys are not knowledgeable! Of course both of you are interested in God's word otherwise you'll be somewhere arguing about Manchester and Chelsea,the fact that you're both commenting on biblical topics shows you have zeal for God and that's good from God's standpoint.

If you really believe this is true, then "Why" are you refusing the Word of God, why are fighting against it.
{I will tell you "Why" because you don't believe the Word of God is rightfully God's Word}

Riofidelio:
My friends Hairyrapunzel and brocab, please i'm not trying to play a smart one or say you guys are not knowledgeable! Of course both of you are interested in God's word otherwise you'll be somewhere arguing about Manchester and Chelsea,the fact that you're both commenting on biblical topics shows you have zeal for God and that's good from God's standpoint. What we all need after the zeal is accurate knowledge so that we can boldly defend our Faith adequately and with competence. Romans 10:1-4 That's what God requires from each and everyone who wants to worship HIM during this end time!Isaiah 54:17, Malachi 3:16,Matthew 28:19/20 If you hear Jehovah's witnesses, it may sound somehow that members of that group can claim to be Christians. That's exactly what Nathaniel meant when he INSULTED Jesus by sarcastically asking "can anything good come from Nazareth?"John 1:46 after his brother said "we've found the Messiah, Jesus from Nazareth" Jesus wasn't offended but instead Our Lord, Master and King proved Himself and at the end Nathaniel agreed that truly Jesus is the promised Messiah!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 12:27pm On Apr 11, 2018*

9 inches-ignoring "what truth, you expect me to walk down that same old road with you, but I won't, so it isn't worth getting yourself all worked up over it, if you are trying to corner me into a corner, then you are barking up the wrong tree.
Believing in God is like looking at a manual-fixing a problem, accepting God is believing everything what the manual tells us, some people like to fix things a easy way-which isn't always the best way-some prefer to find other ways, listen from a friend or somebody-without looking at the manual, we are receiving half truths, how to fix the main issue.
The point I am making, it's best to read the manual-by doing so, if the Word of God-tells you-your Church belongs to Christ, then prove these facts-through the manual-so I myself will know also, "Trying to receive your facts from verbal tradition, from a friend or Priest without looking at the Manual-is like trying to tell God he doesn't know how to do His Job.
What you were taught verbally-doesn't mean there's facts-Christians know, everything lines up with the Word of God-I could tell you Jesus is standing over there-but if the bible said: otherwise, then which one of us is speaking the truth?

9inches:
You're deflecting with your quote. You're ignoring the truth in your face. Jesus instituted one Church only. If you don't belong and chose to remain outside His church, it means you refused to be part of the body of Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:55am On Apr 11, 2018

Maybe he means you are his long distance friend, the one he never calls..

Hairyrapunzel:
You that said your god will kill me for not agreeing with the teachings of 8 old men in new York? How am I your friend?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:54am On Apr 11, 2018

Ho please-and here I was thinking Uben will bail me out..

Ubenedictus:
no, he is yours, I have no business here, you can bore him all you want

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:09am On Apr 11, 2018*

You don't know Christ-and why do I keep on saying this, is because you don't preach His gospel-I preach His gospel, and you keep on refusing it.

9inches:
Story! You are attempting to claim Christ but you don't know Him. Keep on spewing heresy. Even Martin Luther did not spout the rubbish you have spouted here so far in attempt to keep your man-made sola scriptura doctrine alive.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:07am On Apr 11, 2018

I had asked you earlier to renounce which Church, and still you have refused to answer it. What's the name of the Church?

9inches:
You're deflecting with your quote. You're ignoring the truth in your face. Jesus instituted one Church only. If you don't belong and chose to remain outside His church, it means you refused to be part of the body of Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:40am On Apr 11, 2018*

Jesus said: by their fruit we will know them-I have read your fruit, and you don't know God-you don't understand the Spirit of God..

9inches:
Wrong! The body of believers = the Church = the bride of Christ. Christ promised His Holy Spirit to His Church, and to remain with them till the end of time.

First you say we don't need just the spirit to teach us-while we have bible schools..

9inches:
If it takes only the Spirit in you to read and understand the bible, why are there bible schools? If Christianity is 'easy' to understand, why do people study theology? Use your God-given brain and think!

{John 14:26} Jesus tells his followers that the Father will send them the Holy Spirit. This "Advocate" will come to teach and remind people about Jesus, for it comes in Jesus' name.
Jesus tells the disciples that he will send them the Holy Spirit to teach and remind them.
But this has nothing to do with you-because you believe we don't need just the Spirit to teach us the Word of God.
The context is the Last Supper, when Jesus is preparing his disciples for the time when he will no longer be with them in a physical sense.
His disciples are troubled by what Jesus says, but Jesus assures them that he will not leave them on their own.
The Holy Spirit will come to them and remain with them forever.
The Spirit will also teach and remind them of what Jesus has said. The Spirit does this by keeping the memory of Jesus' teachings alive within the Christian community and by disclosing new insights into the meaning of Jesus' life and actions.
For example, the Gospel of John says that after Easter the disciples not only remembered that Jesus cleansed the temple, but came to new insight about what that action meant {2:22}
Similarly, they later remembered how Jesus entered Jerusalem on a donkey and came to a new understanding of how that fulfilled Old Testament Scripture {12:16}
The teaching work of the Spirit is anchored in the life and work of Jesus and involves showing the meaning of Jesus to each new generation.
{John 14:26} But the Advocate,* the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything, and remind you of all that I have said to you.

9inches:
Wrong! The body of believers = the Church = the bride of Christ.

There's no way for you to determine who knows God and who does not since you've been spewing heresy after heresy on here. You won't stop massacring the Scripture.

Christ promised His Holy Spirit to His Church, and to remain with them till the end of time. It's a solid promise, guaranteed, signed and sealed! If you're not among the body of believers,His Church... I'm sorry for you.

@bolded, those are exactly what I'm doing here - teaching, reproofing, correcting and trying to train you but you are chose to be willfully ignorant.You are hearkening your heart to the Word of God and the traditions of the Apostles and early Christians, instead you chose to believe in Martin Luther's tradition of mutilating the Word of God in a rebellious manner.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:54am On Apr 11, 2018*

And this is Charles Russell the founder of the JW cultist religion, xaggar and Riofidelio supports their followers to spend eternity in Hell..
xaggar and Riofidelio "Repent you sinners and cry out unto the Lord for your forgiveness. Judgement day starts first with the Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5JnngqQYvc
I had always believed, if you can tell a good yarn-and people start to believe it, then the good yarn, isn't a yarn any longer, it starts to be reality, and becomes real. "Freemasonry is about gain-and Charles Russell's gain was plenty.
{1 Timothy 6:3-5} Jesus said: If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

xaggar:
May Jehovah bless your ways for this insight. This write-up in particular made my night/touched my heart. I am Happy at it!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:48am On Apr 11, 2018

And the JW's deny this: Charles Russell is buried here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCdnshQywpI

Hairyrapunzel:
Your founder broke out from seventh day adventist and created his doomsday cult which after his death had different ever changing beliefs from him.

Remove the log in your eye before removing the spec in others eyes.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:13am On Apr 11, 2018*

Uben, this is funny JW Riofidelio is now your responsibility, this guy is all over the place, he say's in writing he believes Jesus is God in Word, but then he refuses to accept it in writing.

Ubenedictus:
actually the Anglican Church broke out when the Pope refused king Henry from marrying a second wife.... it wasn't about the Bible

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:50am On Apr 11, 2018

You don't know the answer, because you haven't got Christ in you.

9inches:
The One Church others separated from. You can figure that out.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:40am On Apr 11, 2018

It's good you now see the truth. And realise, its not about the Catholic Church, its about the body of believers, these are the bride of Christ.

9inches:
If it takes only the Spirit in you to read and understand the bible, why are there bible schools? If Christianity is 'easy' to understand, why do people study theology? Use your God-given brain and think!

The Lord does see the heart, but He also knows His own, and His own knows Him, you don't know Him, because you don't follow Him.
You focus on tradition Church knowledge only, but you don't focus on Christ, you haven't received the Spirit to know "He teaches us through the Word of God, most people can read-but without the Spirit of God teaching us His Word, then the bible is just a book.
But I assure you, the bible is quite Spiritual, and when the Spirit of the Lord shows you the Word of God in Spirit and in truth, the Word of God is already at Work in You! "By their fruit, we will know them, "Already I know you, and the Word of God does not flow out from your mouth.
What does Paul say In {Ephesians 6:17–18} “Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, praying at all times in the Spirit.”
{1 Corinthians 2:10} But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.” But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

9inches:
If it takes only the Spirit in you to read and understand the bible, why are there bible schools?

Then why does God say this:{2 Timothy 3:16–17} All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.
Jesus said: one must be born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God, in your case, you had been born into the Catholic Church, baptised as an infant, taught the traditions of men, and never ever coming into the knowledge of the truth, and for anybody who had returned back to the Catholic Church-worshipping that same spirit-praying to Mary and the saints to save them, then these men and women were never with Christ in the first place.

9inches:
It's good you now found out the church is not what you alluded it is. Your conscience is judging you right now for committing heresy, isn't it? You want to blame me for calling you out, go ahead but it's for your own good I did that, so that you cast such thinking from your mind. The Lord sees the heart. He knows exactly what you believe even if you are saying verbally a different thing for the sake of argument. It's better you convey what is in your mind so that it could be corrected if it's the wrong thing. As they say, Sunshine is the best disinfectant. So lay it all out, ask ask sincere questions, stand corrected, learn and grow in knowledge. Don't let willful ignorance block your way to the objective TRUTH.

If it takes only the Spirit in you to read and understand the bible, why are there bible schools? If Christianity is 'easy' to understand, why do people study theology? Use your God-given brain and think!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 12:50am On Apr 11, 2018

So what's the name of the Home Church you are preferring too?

9inches:
Over 33,000 denominations of Christianity make same claim as you. When as many churches as 33,000 differ in their interpretation of the Word of God, it can only come down to 2 things:

Either
1. ONE of them is correct and the rest is wrong, or

2. NONE of them is correct.

Open your eyes and most importantly your mind and see what people like Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Lizzie Reezay and many others have realized in their quest to discover the absolute TRUTH. You can see from their demeanor how happy and relaxed and peaceful they feel being back HOME after living in separation from the Body of Christ. It always feels good being home. Nothing like home.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:58am On Apr 10, 2018

This is a change from you, have you run out of things to say? It's been like this all along with you, The Catholic Church is more to you, then it does with Christ!
It isn't worth getting yourself all worked up about it, and playing the blame game "accept it finely you have agreed with the Word of God, praise the Lord. Liz..

9inches:
The church is the mystical body of Christ. If you think or call Christ's body brick and mortar, that's your own cup of tea. Your mention of it clearly shows that's what is in your mind and you have yourself to blame for heresy.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:37am On Apr 10, 2018

I am not asking you questions, I am giving you the Word of God-which of course you have refuse to have knowledge with it.
Accepting something you call truth from a JW is like falling into a pit with every chance I have..
You have refused your own bible, and you expect me to take your personal words for it.
You need to get of the wagon, and start drinking lemonade, "Really JW's don't use any bible they can call home, you retrieve your literature out of a magazine, with cartoons living with animals on some sort of an island away from the rest of the world..
And I would like to add, riofidelio is all over the place, he doesn't know the direction to take on this journey. and plus If you were to teach me anything, then at least come up with something that makes a little sense.

xaggar:
Brocab my guy!
You are just finding it difficult to accept the truth. But its a good thing you are asking these question. In your attempt to ridicule and discourage some, you are creating the opportunity for persons like me to Learn more and be strengthened by the TRUTH!

Deep down in you, you know riofidelio has met ur questions with very solid Scriptural backing. Its a good thing if you accept them even if not here on this forum.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:11am On Apr 10, 2018

As a JW, you must feel how difficult it is, not allowed to read the JW's NWT bibles year after year-Do you know believing is seeing, people can steer you in the wrong direction, if we aren't careful-it is best to find bibles to interpreter, your findings.
NWT BIBLE-{Revelation 4:8, 22:20} And continuously, day and night, they say; "Holy holy holy is Jehovah God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is coming." {Verse 20} The one who bears witness of these things says, Yes, I am coming quickly." "Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.
This is the best way to learn-is read the bible, comparing it with other bibles, everything must line up with each other, speciously when it's straight from the horses mouth-Verbally the JW's deny's their bible, but believing is seeing "Right" and if you were to ask the right questions, why the NWT Bible reads the above, then it must help you wonder why you were taught the opposite? Then maybe it may open up some new doors for you. But it is a good question to ask around your neighbourhood?

xaggar:
Can I get a full explanation about the reason why the bread and wine aren't eaten during the Lord's evening meal; especially with reference to the old and new covenant?
That is, its origin in the Hebrew scriptures (israel as a nation of priest) down to the Greek Scriptures (the new covenant). How and why it was changed.

Thank you and May Jehovah see your efforts!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:25am On Apr 10, 2018

This is why we need to be saved in Christ-and accept the Holy Spirit to guild us through all His teachings.

Riofidelio:
brocab i know you're taught the miserable Trinity mystery, and those who championed this teaching agreed that it's not what they can explain but God's word is not like that otherwise God won't ask US through HIS Son to go and teach what we can't explain. Trinity is incomprehensible as it's having no root in God's word.

{John 14:25-26} All this I have spoken to you while I am still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.
Matter of fact, maybe you don't like the believers using the word trinity, which means, three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Then you have a problem, and I suppose the only way you need to solve this problem, is get down on your knee's and repent to the Lord, asking Him to forgive you, and free you from your sinful state of mind rejecting the Word of God.
{John 17:20-23} “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.
But since the JW's don't believe in the Spirit-then your teachings could only be mumble jumble Watchtower rubbish, that of course couldn't possibly have been led by the Godhead to even think, the JW's have anything to do with God in the first place, but only on the lines of being a cult, "Yes this-I do believe..
And if you still disbelieve verbally Jesus is God, then why do you, and your bible prove otherwise in writing?

Riofidelio:
brocab i know you're taught the miserable Trinity mystery, and those who championed this teaching agreed that it's not what they can explain but God's word is not like that otherwise God won't ask US through HIS Son to go and teach what we can't explain. Trinity is incomprehensible as it's having no root in God's word. Jesus was God because He performed so many mighty works before observers just like Moses was God before Pharaoh, notice that John 1:1 referred to our LIVING Master Lord and King in this way "the word was God" meaning while He was present with them they can all feel the presence and the mighty hand of God (Emmanuel) but as soon as He returned to heaven He sat at the right hand of the one who sent Him so He's not presently serving in that office anymore! The Holy Spirit came and many of Jesus' followers were looked upon as God just because of the presence of the Holy Spirit with them.So th Word WAS! WAS!! God just as Moses WAS God at a point in time. John cleared it by saying "the word WAS (not IS) God" Jesus is alive now in heaven it won't be appropriate to for an Apostle to refer to a living person by saying "the word was God" while He is alive.God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:49am On Apr 10, 2018

Riofidelio:
In fact He's greater than Moses in many ways

Don't you believe in Christ-well enough to know: Jesus was not just a prophet-Jesus has been considered worthy of much greater glory and honor than Moses.
{Hebrews 3} Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, [thoughtfully and attentively] consider the Apostle and High Priest whom we confessed [as ours when we accepted Him as Savior], namely, Jesus; He was faithful to Him who appointed Him [Apostle and High Priest] as Moses also was faithful in all God’s house.
The apostle Paul reiterates: “There is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live” {1 Corinthians 8:6}
In fact The scriptures tells us-He's greater than Moses in all ways.
The mystery of the triune God is difficult for you to understand, this is why you need the Spirit of the Lord to help you see this-both God the Father and Jesus are called Shepherd, Judge, and Savior. Both are called the Pierced One—in the same verse {Zechariah 12:10} Christ is the exact representation of God the Father, having the same nature {Hebrews 1:3} They are always in perfect agreement at every moment, and all three equal only One God. {Deuteronomy 6:4} There is some sense in which everything the Father does, the Son and Spirit also do, and vice versa, Jesus was divine-Moses had authority in some way, but Jesus is God all over.

Riofidelio:
NO! Jesus was a perfect person,though He served as a prophet and God simultaneously like Moses according to the scriptures.Remember His conception as in pregnancy was through the Holy Spirit and not through intercourse like every other person, so Jesus is sinless. In fact He's greater than Moses in many ways (1) He lived in heaven before. Proverbs 8:22-31 (2) He is the one through whom every single WORD of God comes.John 1:1(3) Unlike Moses He never made a single mistake(sin) because He's perfect. The similarities are what i mentioned to explain why He WAS God at a certain time just as imperfect Moses also WAS God at a certain time. Seriously Jesus is greater than anyone who ever walked on this Earth! Adam is our dead father who brought sin and death upon all humans but Jesus is our ever living father through whom we're going to gain everlasting life! Both Adam and Jesus are the only two human Sons of God. Luke 3:38 because they were both made perfect without sin but while Jesus maintained His perfectness Adam lost his own!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:16pm On Apr 09, 2018

Lizzie {9 inches} you aren't any different to Steve Ray-we can go with this all day long, but if you knew Christ-like Steve Ray believed he did, he would have realised we belong to God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error..
Truthfully speaking-since I had become a believer in Christ-I believe His every Word-everything about Christ rest upon my heart, soul and mind.
We can debate until the sun go's down-many have come and gone-trying, but the only problem with that, is, the Spirit who is in me, is greater then he who is in the world. {1 John 4:4}

9inches:
He did not say that, quote what he said. His old belief of sola scriptura was what he found out as problematic. The base point was that he met a good Catholic and the errors and heresies in his protest_ant doctrine was exposed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGIIPFQ1VJw

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 9:59pm On Apr 09, 2018

9 inches-Lizzie-The universal church consists of all those who have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink”
{1 Corinthians 12:13} This verse says that anyone who believes is part of the body of Christ and has received the Spirit of Christ as evidence. The universal church of God is all those who have received salvation through faith in Jesus Christ.

The local church is described in {Galatians 1:1-2} “Paul, an apostle … and all the brothers with me, to the churches in Galatia.” Here we see that in the province of Galatia there were many churches—what we call local churches.
A Baptist church, Lutheran church, Catholic church, etc., is not the church, as in the universal church—but rather is a local church, a local body of believers.
The universal church is comprised of those who belong to Christ, and who have trusted Him for salvation. These members of the universal church should seek fellowship and edification in a local church.
And In summary, the church is not a building or a denomination. According to the Bible, the church is the body of Christ—all those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation {John 3:16; 1 Corinthians 12:13}
Local churches are gatherings of members of the universal church. The local church is where the members of the universal church can fully apply the “body” principles of {1 Corinthians 12} encouraging, teaching, and building one another up in the knowledge and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.

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