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It's had always been a problem, when the question comes up about the Church and how it was built through Christ, and what are the foundations of the Church-Catholic's believe through traditional teaching, it's Peter, the bible tells the Church is built up from the Word of God, that God spoke through Peter. The Catholic's deny these legations, Catholic's believe its a 1000 year old building, and what's in that building is the Church of people worshipping what Constantine began, which fell under the Roman empire.. {1 Timothy 2:3-5} This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,… Just like the Catholic Church they seem to think through tradition Mary and the apostles are mediators between God and men. "Denying the Word of God, will cause people to always learn but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Yale9: |
If you were to preached facts, and believed the bible as you think you believe tradition, this forum would close down, because there will be no one to argue your stupidity with.. Yale9: |
Yeh it must be hard for the Catholic's to go with the flow, it is sure a difficult tasks to agree upon the Word of God, and Church tradition.. And brainwashed in the Word of God-what better way is to be set free, and live for eternity with Christ.. Ubenedictus: |
Now you believe the Church is the body-and not the Catholic Church that stood for a million years. Yale9: |
Firstly I have studied with the JW's, the JW's like to use the KJ's version, with good reason, while I prefer to use the NWT Bible version, with good reason. Verbally the JW's refuse to believe Jesus is God, but in writing, the NWT Bible say's Jesus is God-this of course is completely opposite to verbal beliefs. "The NWT Bible which is the New World Translation Watchtower bible. It proves Door to door JW's are preaching another doctrine, a doctrine that doesn't line up with their own bible, which again, the NWT bible does prove Jesus is God, and He came in the flesh. Yes either if the JW's are standing at our doors or on this site-either way we will continual to preach the truth-and we will keep on writing bible truth-which is the Word of God-we believers, believe every Word the Lord had written, "do you know? it's the Word of God-that sets us free. Not doctrine's from Watchtower magazines delivered to our doors by certain JW's who expects us to look at pictures of heaven on earth with Doctor Do little's talking with the animals! "This is not bible believing Christians coming to our doors. Again the JW's have refuse the KJ's version-with good reason, because certain NWT bible scriptures, lines up with the KJ's literature, that proves Jesus is God. NWT bible {Revelation 4:8, 22:20} And continuously day and night, they say, "Holy, Holy holy, is Jehovah God, the Almighty, who was, and who is, and who is coming! {V 22-20} The one who bears witness of these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly."'Amen! Come Lord Jesus." KJ Bible {Revelation 4:8, 22:20} And they do not rest day and night, saying: Holy Holy Holy, Lord God Almighty, was was, and who is, and who is to come. {V 22-20} He who testifies to these things says, :Surely I am coming quickly," Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Wunmifun: |
What is the small league? Do you actually believe our arguments is about a Church building? Who cares, about a 1000 year old building, all I care about is the buildings God is still building today, not a 1000 year old man made Church. Any Nigerian ladies marrying any Catholic's should be worried-because having two different beliefs under one roof-will cause problems inside the marriage, unless she marries a Catholic to become a Catholic, or visa versa, other then that-their marriage will never settle.. I know this through experience, it's a heavy burden to carry, my wife became a believer at first, but her heart will never be with my heart, her heart will always be in the Catholic Church. Yale9: |
You love the Catholic Church 'does this qualify you to be a practice Catholic, or someone that declares Catholic? A Church building that is a 1000 years old, is just a building, bragging about such claims is pointless. Yale9: |
Thanks brother. solite3: |
It takes one person at a time-If I reach out to any, God knows.. Bro I just see things differently at times, and everything is based around the truth, just as clear-we are both on the same side of the fence, it doesn't matter how we explain things, what matters, is, we are bringing the Word of God forward. If I am reaching out to any of them-God knows, but bro it isn't stopping us trying.. solite3: |
And happy to do so-and I will keep on quoting scriptures-just because you aren't happy with the idea.. Wunmifun: |
I don't know which is best-JW's at my door lying to me, or bank robbers, no lie is greater then the other, we may not like what we do-but we are lairs-we are sinners, so every man and every woman has lied and if they say they haven’t, then they’ve just told another lie. {Luke 18:11} Two men went up to the temple to pray. One was a Pharisee {JW} and the other a {bank robber} tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like the other men swindlers, evildoers, adulterers or even like this tax collector. Do you know-Jesus's disciples weren't business men, they were liars, scum-no body wanted' "But Jesus chose them, "why because Jesus seen their hearts, just look at the outcome, as we read the scriptures, these men started the Church! Most Christians are no different then the disciples-I wasn't brought up in a Christian home, but God had called me, and everything I did is forgiven, but it's never forgotten-if we were to allow God to be the Judge, then the bank robber could be the next evangelist, Paul wasn't the best, and the Lord managed to use him for God's kingdom.. (Rom 3:10-12) None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks after God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one” Not even the JW.. {Revelation 21:8} “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Disbelieving is a sin-it causes faithless cowardly disagreeing with bible knowledge is a lie from the beginning.. Wunmifun: |
Are God's people designed to follow leaders in Church priest pastors Popes, or are they designed to examining everything carefully, testing the scriptures-from priest's pastors Pope's. {Acts 17:11} Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Pope Francis once said: we don't need Jesus, just as long as we are good 'we will make it into heaven, if this, is what Pope Francis believes, then why do people rely on God-if Pope Francis is all we need, to save the world.. |
I agree, if everybody decided to read the bible, and believed everything the bible had to offer-then there wouldn't be a 50, 50%.. Yale9: |
All in all, I am starting to count my lost'es with Nairaland every time I have written lately I have been refused entry and my post won't even make it on air, if there's been any complaints, then the complaints will be over the Word of God, and I should at least be informed.. I was writing with another Christian site last night, it shows how much Nairaland site makes a difference in Christ, I have changed, I am sceptic when addressing with other Christians, I now put up my defence mode, there's to many religions claiming to be somebody, but never seem to understand the truth. I am even sceptic about people claiming to be born again believers, many of them were told they are saved, after they said the salvation prayer, and yet it is those many that are still walking around without change, their claims aren't any different to the world-by their fruit we will know them, religion claiming to know Christ and speaking bits and pieces of the bible, doesn't prove they are saved. I found this behaviour not only with religion, but those that claimed to be Born again-or religion born into any Church, always learning and never coming to knowledge of the truth, and have never been set free-are people without the Spirit of the Lord. Other religions don't test the Word-but Holy Spirit filled believers, test everything concerning the Word, tradition is tested through the Word, Paul's teaching on tradition is tested, everything is based on the Word of God, prophesies are tested, dreams and visions are tested, everything we believe in Christ is tested. Yet we are told to run our race with our eyes focused on Christ: and to do that, we need to stay focus in Christ, and to do that, we need to test ourselves in the Word of God. In our fast-paced, attention-grabbing world, it is easy to get caught up in the daily grind, get distracted, and lose sight of our true purpose in life—the worship and love of God {Matthew 22:37} At least on this site, even through we don't agree on everything, and we are preaching what we are taught, by either the Holy Spirit teaches us, or you are taught by another spirit, most of us are here to correct all disputes with the Word of God. |
Allow yourself to open up your heart to Jesus, go unto your room and pray to the Father in secret-pray for your salvation, pray the Lord will call you into His Kingdom. Pray repent, that your Pope-Priest can not save you, pray repent. for the Catholic Church can not save you-pray repent, that tradition will never save you-pray repent, bowing to images of Mary, the saints they can't save you-pray repent, the rosaries can not save you, pray repent that your Mammon can not save you-pray repent you can not save yourself. So take on this great opportunity, become One with Christ-allowing Christ to be One with you. Pray repent-and stand beside me, and allow us to pray for your salvation, and for you to become a Holy Spirit filled born again Christian, as the scriptures tells us to do. 9 inches are you willing to follow Christ 100%, the answer to that is "Never" "And you would rather prefer to harden your heart even deeper and worship the goddess Mary, Dianna or Isis, denying Catholicism was built to only lead you to believe a man made tradition. Most Catholic's would call this a pot of Gold-in your case-I call it a pot of fools-Good luck with that-you have no hope to be with Christ, and if you are expecting Mary to be waiting for you at the pearly gates-you will be waiting for eternity in hell. Good bye.... 9inches: |
If you will just allow yourself to allow Christ to come to you, you too will understand-why the Spirit teaches us the Word of God. 9inches: |
I have been laughing at you from the beginning, why? Because the terms I am now speaking are Spiritual terms. Jesus said: He will send us the Holy Spirit-its the Spirit that teaches us. You believe the apostles taught you, who do you think taught them-besides Jesus-the Spirit of course, and still until this day we are taught by His Spirit. If the Spirit isn't teaching us, then the O/T-N/T bible wouldn't have existed, I am not expecting you to understand what I am about to say-but as I read the scriptures, it's the Spirit who opens up the Verses I am reading, and when I hear it straight from the Spirit of God-the verses light up in my heart and it becomes a new ball game. Without the Spirit of God-I wouldn't even try to read the Word of God-especially, if someone said: Father you are in Me as I am in you, my knowledge with this verse, would be like your knowledge 'confused. Without the Spirit I couldn't believe Jesus in the flesh-it is the Spirit that leads us all to believe Jesus. I know one thing, the Spirit had never preached to me about bowing down to Mary, nor had the Holy Spirit ever told me to pray to Mary, nor Had He told me, Mary is to be worshipped, nor does the Spirit ever speak through His Word she is to be worshipped; the Holy Spirit had never mentioned I am to pray to Peter Paul James or any other apostle that walked alongside Jesus at the time-the Holy Spirit had always directed me to the divine Jesus, through speech and through Word.. Catholicism doesn't teach-the Holy Spirit guilds His own, they teach the apostles tradition comes before the Word. {2 Thessalonians 2:15} states... "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle." The word "traditions" in 2nd Thessalonians is the Greek paradosis, which means, "a giving over which is done by word of mouth or in writing, i.e. tradition by instruction, narrative, precept, etc." Carefully notice that the word "traditions" here does not mean "to fabricate your own doctrines," as the Catholic Church has been doing for centuries. But in your case-tradition speaks to you through the Catholic Church.. |
I have been laughing at you from the beginning, why? Because the terms I am speaking are Spiritual terms. You can only understand the bible in the flesh, this is why you believe tradition saves. 9inches: |
But she is your door mat-and Lizzie teaches, everything you need to know, what does this mean? "You are both speaking the same religious lingo, the same gospel-you both believe in the same religion-if we were to look into the scriptures, lets see what Jesus meant by the verse below. {John 17:23} I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one—I in them and You in Me — that they may be perfectly united, so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me. So you see, "I am talking about us being united as One-Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit are 3 persons in One-Christ prayed that we become one in them, so we are many-and we have become One in Christ-we preach the same gospel, we connect the same, we are acting the same in Christ, preaching through Christ His gospel, and obeying the Word of God. Aren't you and Lizzie connected to each other as One? You preach Catholicism throughout the world-Lizzie also preaches Catholicism-so to speak, you are both preaching Catholicism, this makes you One in all with Lizzie-father that you are in me, I am in you, and I in them. Obviously this why you don't understand the terms of the body of Christ-Christ is talking about we are One in Spirit with Christ. And still I am not expecting you to understand this simple knowledge.. 9inches: |
No one is arguing against your claims, this is a figer of your own imagination-our conversation had always been about Christ-you rejecting the Word of God: Claiming Christ preferred your Church building to be the only Church He Had established. Your claims are not scriptural: but traditional, only in the Catholic Church.. 9inches: |
She is, you speak of her as she is, you can't help yourself, but produce Lizzie as your door mat, you use Lizzie to answer your indoctrinated so called tradition, don't you see, Lizzie is still a young Child-and you are seeking your information from a Child-if not Lizzie you have led me to sites Lizzie also uses. Your not studying your bible-I believe Liz is your bible-you are a self-righteous Hypocrite! 9inches: |
You can either study the bible-which is the Word of God-or you can learn from your mistakes, when your Judgement day arrives. ![]() |
Like I said: you can give out the insults but you can't handle the come backs. Stop exposing your empty brain-is this best you could come back with.. My empty brain-may not be knowledgeable to you, but the Word of God is not knowledgeable to you either-my learning of the Catholic Church had travelled all over the world through this very site. "Not bad, not bad at all." And like I said: Lizzie the stuff you preach on youtube has no foundation to it, you think the scriptures you are using have any meaning to your maybe's-or Hmmm's, guessing the Word of God-isn't what I call knowledgeable, no-one is learning anything positive by it, You think you have, what it takes, Lizzie you have always believed you were more special, worth something more then the others. Lizzie it's time for you to pull your head in-you left God for this: Most Catholic's believe bowing down to statues, helps them to believe the spirit in those statue's are watching over them-most believe as long as they have a statue of saints or baby Jesus or Mary, or a crucifix cross, these spirits are looking after them, this is defiantly witchcraft, Catholic's bowing down before demons living in statues.. Lizzie most Catholic's don't even know the bible, nor do you, rebellion against your parents is sinning against God-most Catholic's say the bible is not convincing enough, most Catholic's go to Church because of a family tradition, in your case, your family was cast out, from you. Most Catholic's believe as long as they believe they had a good life-and they asked a priest to forgive their sins, and rise the dead! They will enter into the kingdom of God: don't you realise one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God. Many claim they are saved through infant baptism, "not even you-know if you were baptised" so how do you know you are saved? Ubenedictus:Uben haven't any faith to say, Lizzie is baptised-So let myself continual-as I read through many sites you have given me, I find this-who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. {Which is the Word of God} Lizzie your preaching on youtube haven't any backbone to it, there's no foundation and calling yourself 9 inches on Nairaland is like having your house built on sand, your house is Uben's house and it had already fallen Spirituality. 9inches: |
Lizzie believes she has been baptised? What she doesn't know-if she was baptised? Who told you, you were baptised, mother father? Ubenedictus: |
The bad thing about you 9 inches you can throw the insults out there, but you can't handle the come backs-plus It has nothing to do with any Church made of brick and mortar-the Church is the believers, Church buildings were built to keep people together, under one accord, nothing more, no-one is concerned about who's Church building stood up the longest. The Church was built upon the Word of God-not apostles, Christ built His Church upon the Word's Peter spoke from God-not on Peter himself. Am I speaking with a child-stay focus on bible scriptures the apostles wrote-instead of relying on tradition, tradition tells us, Christ built the Catholic Church-but the bible tells us: Members of the Body of Christ are joined to Christ in salvation {Ephesians 4:15-16} Members of the Body of Christ are indwelt by the Holy Spirit of Christ {Romans 8:9} Members of the Body of Christ share a common bond with all other Christians, regardless of background, race, or ministry. “There should be no division in the body, but . . . its parts should have equal concern for each other” {1 Corinthians 12:25} Have you notice none of the above concerns any Church building made of brick and mortar.. 9inches: |
Yeh right! Is God really in this picture? I could almost believe it-if it wasn't for this man praising his priest, we already know the Catholic Church believe priest can forgive sins, but "On this day the man stood up and told the Church he was raised by the priest! This story above doesn't line up with the Word of God, Jesus is the only Authority To Forgive Sins. {Matthew 9:1-8} {Luke 5:23-24, 7:48} Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk?’ But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on the earth to forgive sins...Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” No-man can raise no-body without Christ in the picture, and if this man was raised from the dead: he would Glorify God, not the priest. This priest stands among the people like he had done the miracle-he stands, as he had forgiven this mans sins, no wonder you don't see anything wrong with this story. Ubenedictus: |
Now who's lying, you really don't know the bible-you really believe God is talking about the Catholic Church-and not the body of believers. Still claiming everything outside the Catholic Church is man made-the Holy Spirit no longer ruins in temples made by man, He lives in temples built up by God... God is the God of the living. God ruins in the body of believers, Jesus calls His Church..This has nothing to do with a Catholic Church made of brick and mortar. 9inches: |
God Hates the Catholic Church! By David J. Stewart {Proverb 8:13} "The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate." Every preacher in America would proclaim this truth. God hates the Catholic Church! Why does God hate the Catholic Church? It's because God hates evil, and the Catholic Church is evil. "The Catholic Church is NO church at all, but is a heathen organization. Instead of obeying the commandments of God, the Catholic Church teaches the TRADITIONS of men. Billions of people have been led into Hellfire by the Roman Catholic Church. Oh the misery of false religion! Ironically, the Catholic Church professes to believe the Bible, which makes it easy to EXPOSE them, because most of their traditions are CONTRADICTORY to the plainest doctrines of God's Word. Catholics are quick to defend themselves, pointing out that there were good traditions in the Bible; however, Roman Catholics have perverted the meaning of "traditions." {2 Thessalonians 2:15} states... "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle." The word "traditions" in 2nd Thessalonians is the Greek paradosis, which means, "a giving over which is done by word of mouth or in writing, i.e. tradition by instruction, narrative, precept, etc." Carefully notice that the word "traditions" here does not mean "to fabricate your own doctrines," as the Catholic Church has been doing for centuries. At the time Paul wrote the Epistle of 2nd Thessalonians, the Bible had not been completed yet. The Bible was completed in 96 A.D. with the Book of Revelation. The traditions which Paul spoke of were clearly referring to the Word of God, as evidenced by Paul's mention of his "epistle" letter. Catholics conveniently fail to quote the numerous Scriptures in the Bible condemning men's traditions. {Colossians 2:8} warns... "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Herein lies the key to determining whether a TRADITION is of God or of men, in the phrase--AFTER CHRIST. Do the traditions of the Catholic Church follow after Christ? Are they based upon the Word of God? In {John 1:1} Jesus is called the "Word." {Revelation 19:13} tells us that Jesus' name is The Word of God. If men's traditions fail to follow after the Word of God, then they certainly do not follow after Christ, who is the Living Word. The truth is that the "traditions" which the Apostle Paul spoke of are THE WORD OF GOD. There are NO traditions today which God expects us to obey, apart from the Word of God. This truth is evidenced by {Hebrews 1:1-2} "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds." God speaks to us today exclusively through the Word of God, which is the mind of Christ. |
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