Brocab's Posts

Nairaland Forum › Brocab's Profile › Brocab's Posts

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 (of 172 pages)

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:47pm On Apr 06, 2018

Well your Jesus is the archangel, my Jesus is the Son of God..

Riofidelio:
That's what i'm saying "you want to save my life" so you need to listen ATTENTIVELY when i'm expressing myself and know how to convince me to switch from the former understanding to the "better" one you're trying to give. You know that i already have a belief and i'm convinced that my belief is in Jesus the same you claim to believe
Therefore it takes an expert "fisherman" to catch a swift fish! That's why Jesus called those adequately competent and completely equipped(2Timothy 3:17)ones following Him "fishers of men". Please i was taught to believe that Jesus was CREATED because proverbs 8:22 said "God created a master workman as HIS first work" The controversial verse John 1:1 is rendered "in the Beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God" (KJV) Many other translations said "the word was Godlike" or "the word was a god" Exodus 7:1 says God made Moses God and Aaron to serve as a prophet of Moses(God) Of course if Israelites could know the tomb of Moses with all that's bestowed on him Moses would have become a God to Israelites till today! God made Jesus God for a purpose just the same way HE made Moses God but Christians knew better than Israelites today that someone is above, greater, superior, existed before Jesus! 1Corinthians 15:26-28

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:38pm On Apr 06, 2018

Riofidelio:
Jesus Himself said not just calling Lord Lord but doing God's will, and what is God's will? Well simply quoted it's the ability to Master Jesus' commands!

{1 John 2:3-5} By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments. If anyone says, “I know Him,” but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him:…
And then Jesus say's They may believe in God, but they do not know the gospel. They do not have saving faith because “faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” {Romans 10:17}
And this is what the JW's teach and believe {John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
Do you JW's understand, The JW's may believe God, but they do not know the gospel. Do you understand-Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God-and if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
And your study NWT Bible does not come close in knowing the truth, nor does the watchtower Magazines.
{2 Timothy 3:15-17} From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…

Riofidelio:
It's because you've not been attentive humbly that's why you think John 3:16 is not common with JWs! Jesus Himself said not just calling Lord Lord but doing God's will, and what is God's will? Well simply quoted it's the ability to Master Jesus' commands! It's not just simply saying "Jesus is Lord" but proving so with all that you do. Whatever you notice that JWs are often striving to do is exactly what Jesus commanded so we're not just slogan criers who often say "Jesus is Lord" by mouth but "doers as in practicers of what Jesus commanded!"

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:05pm On Apr 06, 2018

Stick around, because we are happy to teach you the Word of God.

LEOSIRSIR:
I do welcome them because their teaching of the word of God is so deep and understanding
But they can talk hen

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:03pm On Apr 06, 2018

Joseph Smith was you founder..Your archangel Jesus had nothing to do with the watchtower.

Riofidelio:
Thanks so much i just love your comment jare! Of course we can talk like our founder, His name is Jesus He said we'll talk much because of so many information in our minds that we feel like downloading for others to learn. Luke 6:45!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:50pm On Apr 06, 2018

Sorry I must of missed that, I didn't see the insults, nor do I see the abuse, all I see is someone witnessing to help save a life, and it's yours.

Riofidelio:
Jesus is surely one of God's Sons but what differentiates Him from others is that He is the first of His kind.

"No Jesus is the only one of His kind, every man woman and Child are sinners.
The last time I have read the bible it teaches that Jesus was not created but was rather the Creator.“In [Jesus Christ] all things were created: all things have been created through him and for him” {Colossians 1:16}
The doctrine of the eternality of Christ is one of the distinguishing marks of biblical Christianity.
The early creeds of the church unequivocally teach that Jesus was not created but that He is an eternally divine Person, the Son of God.
Muslims teach that Jesus was a virgin born human prophet, but came into existence just like everyyone else.
Mormons, who adhere to a modern-day form of Arianism, believe that Jesus had a beginning, just as God the Father had a beginning.
Jehovah’s Witnesses say that Jesus was the first creation of Jehovah and was originally called Michael the archangel.
So on which side of the creator/creature divide does Jesus actually fall? Is Jesus a creature, and thus part of the created order, or is He, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit, the Creator of all created things?
Jesus’ disciples were equally clear in their belief in Jesus’ deity and uncreated nature. John tells us that “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God” {John 1:1}
After having encountered the risen Jesus, the apostle Thomas exclaimed to Him, “My Lord and my God!” {John 20:28} The apostle Paul referred to Christ as “God over all” {Romans 9:5} and stated that “in [Christ] the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily” {Colossians 2:9}
In the early days of the church, Jesus was both the object of prayer {Acts 7:59} and the One in whose name the forgiveness of sins was proclaimed {Acts 2:38, 10:43}
Jesus, God the Son, was not created. He has always existed; Before Abraham I am {John 5:58} He has no beginning or end. The Son took on human flesh at a particular point in human history {John 1:14}
Christians refer to this event as the Incarnation (“the act of being made flesh”)
This act was integral to our salvation {Galatians 4:4–5, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 9:22}
From the Incarnation onward, the eternal, uncreated Son is both truly God and truly man.
But there was never a time when the Son did not exist. He was never created. Jesus always was and will forever remain “our great God and Savior” {Titus 2:13}
We are reading the same bibles?

Riofidelio:
It's not a matter of insults or abuses, if you raise a question and asked for opinions everyone who have Faith will contribute. But if you don't want any contrary opinion just signify by saying i don't want so so and so to be part of the discuss that's all. Please pick any Bible of your choice and read Genesis 6:1-3 or Job 1:1-8 or Psalms 82:1/6 you'll notice that there are many called God's son and God! Jesus is surely one of God's Sons but what differentiates Him from others is that He is the first of His kind to be created.Proverbs 8:22-30 Collssians 1:15, 1 Corinthians 15:27}

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:53am On Apr 06, 2018

After watching this video, I don't need to judge, this man had already laid Judgement on himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dBkKoYC2-8

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:09pm On Apr 05, 2018*

9inches:
Aren't you proud anymore to believe in a man made doctrine of Luther? Do you want to join me to profess the faith of the Apostles?

Here you go again, getting yourself all worked up over nothing, nasty is your game, don't expect the darkness that is in you, to mix with the light that is in me, you haven't yet come up with anything positive since we have started these conversions, if you were expecting me to follow suit with you, don't expect the unexpected.
Trying to learn something from you is difficult, every time I think you may have something, you close it down, you change and blame Martin Luther? If you really want me to listen to you, then come up with something positive, directing me to Catholic sites-doesn't produce any evidence that actually lines up with any of the subjects we are focusing on.
Until you can come up with some evidence to prove your Church really exist, and it lines up with the Word of God-then you and I haven't anything in common-and you are either talking through your backside-or you haven't the slightest idea-which direction you need to go and find the truth..So far, you haven't produced any truth on any subject you have produced..
Every time I see these video's on you tube, it brings back memories, I could remember their teachings in the Catholic Church, as I witness to the Catholic's I can see' how difficult it must be for them, not having that direct line to God, Catholic's will always find fault in bible knowledge, but when its against the Roman Catholic Church their behaviour turns out to be like this video below-this cartoon is quite interesting, and very knowledgeable, the statue was leading the grandmother into Hell, and it would have exceeded, if one of God's disciple's didn't show her the written truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1FPcQT5yQo

9inches:
You don't profess God, you profess a faith. English!

How are you sure Luther wasn't the false prophet you are warned about since he threw away some parts of the Scripture, the Word of God and made your bible incomplete?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:38pm On Apr 05, 2018*

You really don't know much about Steve Ray-now do you? Steve Ray taught studies on evangelization, he always had people in his home, he welcome the Mormons and Jehovah's Witness missionaries, Atheists, New-agers, he said the Catholics were always a target for evangelism, he knew the best arguments to unleash Bible verses on anyone of them. He said: Catholics were usually pretty easy to pick off the tree. They didn't know the Bible and from our perspective had no idea how to get saved. He said: the Catholic's prayed to Mary instead of Jesus, got to heaven by works instead of faith, followed tradition instead of the Bible — in everything they were upside down.
The above story-doesn't sound the way you have labeled this man, if God is in the picture, He can use this, and turn Steve Ray around for God's kingdom, Steve Ray knew the ins and out's about the Catholic's, he witness to them, and all of a sudden he joins them?
Something doesn't add up-either God had sent Steve Ray into the Catholic Church to win souls, or Steve Ray didn't know God in the first place.
Never estimate God, if He is in this Picture, then-Steve Ray maybe the next Martin Luther returning from the dead.
This is what Jesus said: {2 Thessalonians 2:1-3} Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first.
Maybe God's using Steve Ray to help lead the Catholic's out of slavery-never estimate God-He can, and He will, use those who are willing.
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first. God is separating His sheep away from the wolves, the tares from the wheat, and the strong from the weak-first Judgement day starts within the Church.
But if God isn't in this picture concerning Steve Ray, then you have nothing to worry about, if Christ was really on this mans heart-it's almost impossible to run off in the other direction. And if this guy left God because he believes bowing down to Mary-will save his soul-then he was never a born again saved believer in the first place.

9inches:
He left because he found the Truth. He used to convert unfaithful Catholics to protestantism until he realized the lie Martin Luther had sold. He then started reading about the early Christians like Apostles of Christ and the people that learned directly from them. He found out that all the way from the Apostles to present, the Catholic Church has been one and the same.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 5:40am On Apr 05, 2018

This one is a ripper! And it's so true..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1FPcQT5yQo

Christianity Etc › Re: The Pentecostal Church Verses The Catholic Church. by brocab(op): 5:25am On Apr 05, 2018

Thanks bro, come over to "Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic" you would have fun there..

adegeye38:
no teaching of Christ whatsoever is synonymous with Catholic doctrine, Catholicism has no trace to the apostles, cos the message the apostles preached was deeply Pentecostal and, the Catholic/gothic doctrines became established hundreds of years after the death of the apostles, and it was a deviation from the original gopel of Christ.
Peter himself preached pure Pentecostal, he spoke in tongue and was filled with the holy spirit, he spoke being born again and being delivered from sin through Christ, peter preached about holiness and everything Pentecostal and he emphasized on Christ teaching on having a personal relationship with God. and ao much more its all in the bible

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 5:20am On Apr 05, 2018

This guy left the Church because he was never a born again believer in the first place.
Jesus said: Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: But when the sun rose, the seedlings were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. {Matthew 13:5-6}
And this-you don't understand-God calls us into His Kingdom, this man had come in another way, without God inviting him.
{2 Thessalonians 2:5-6} The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkAGqZTL-q4

9inches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dBkKoYC2-8?t=5s

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:51am On Apr 05, 2018*

We don't profess the faith of the apostles, we profess to God..
{Hebrews 10:23} Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
Luther didn't write the bible, he studied it, Luther found the many miss quoted scriptures, the Catholic Church are still practicing today. And the argument Luther had with the Catholic Church still stands. "Amen" I thank God.
Jesus said: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
God reminds us in His Word to “watch out,” “beware,” to stay awake. He knows and understands how difficult it can be to fight this spiritual battle. Sometimes It may seem harder to recognize what’s true or what’s false. What’s light and what’s dark.
And at the heart of the battle we face every day, is a real enemy who prowls around seeking someone to devour, they will stop at nothing to gain new ground, their forces have quoted God’s words since the beginning of time, twisting it, trying their best to manipulate truth, their main goal only to deceive and lead astray.
Watch therefore" the Catholic Church may devour you, corner you into a corner, and the weak may not return.
They know who God is and the Bible says they “shudder” in fear at His name. {James 2:19}
“Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong.” {1 Corinthians 16:13}

9inches:
Aren't you proud anymore to believe in a man made doctrine of Luther? Do you want to join me to profess the faith of the Apostles?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:22am On Apr 04, 2018

So this was a trick question, from a two year old?
You claimed I had lied, about what? This is funny, so you actually believe in a man made doctrine, that wasn't inspired by God, to write.
So you believe-unbelieving non Spiritual humans wrote the bible, without God's Spirit in the picture.
So Martin Luther didn't write my bible, as you had claimed before hand.
So what you are saying the bible was never written by God, but humans acting in the flesh.
And where are these humanised Holy scriptures, only can be found in the Vatican "right.
Since you believe the bible is a lie from the beginning-and it isn't a God given book-then why do you use the bible, to prove you are a hypocrite.
God wrote the 10 commandments-why? because He wanted His people to study and practice them-God's Spirit used inspired men, to write the manuscripts, God inspired, men to prophesy, to evangelise, to teach, become pastors, priest, God inspired His people to spread His Word across the nations.
And you refuse to believe the bible was written by God.. You told me you were a Christian, you lied..

9inches:
You've been caught in a lie and you're trying to change the goal posts in the middle of the game. God did not write the bible, humans did.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:29am On Apr 04, 2018

Don't take this to heart bro-but Pope Francis is only a small piece of the puzzle, not only him-but I have heard protestants agree with Pope Francis, the Word of Faith movement, Kenneth Copeland etc..had joined the campaign, calling every protestant, religion cults back to the Catholic Church, under the control of the new world order.
All we can do, is pray, that our flight may not be in winter..“Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. Besides Pope Francis How many false Christ's have come and gone?
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.
We just need to turn on the television to watch Isis, or even better in most Churches we find gossips and busybodies betraying each other.
Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.
Christians are already refusing the Word of God, let alone, hating one another-this forum shows us the love of many had growing cold.
“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Watch therefore, because people will say come to my Church, because Christ is moving there, or come to this tent meeting, because the spirit of the Lord is moving here. Some say the dead had risen, the blind now see, and the sick are healed. Word of Faith-Benny Hinn won't even look at you, unless the cash is flowing his way..

goodnews777:
What has light got to do with darkness. Catholics are not Christians. The pope does not believe there is hell, preaches gays are ok, welcomes Muslims than Christians, has the spirit of Antichrist , believes you go to God through Mary , believe the dead can pray for you.. all unbiblical, heretical, ungodly and deceptive heathen practices.

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 12:17am On Apr 04, 2018

The hand of God wrote the 10 commandments on stone. And of course you disagree with this, only because you don't agree with two commandments, thru shalt not make any graven images, nor bow down to them.
The Spirit of the Lord inspired men to write down scriptures {Revelation 14:12-13} Here is a call for the endurance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus . And I heard a voice from heaven telling me to write, “Blessed are the dead — those who die in the Lord from this moment on.’” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “- they will rest from their labors, for their deeds will follow them.”
{Revelation 21:5} And the One seated on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” Then He said, “Write this down, for these words are faithful and true.”
Even Jesus quoted scriptures from the Old Testament. People didn’t follow Jesus only because of his miracles—they also followed him because he knew how to handle the Old Testament: there were many Old Testament books Jesus quoted from: Exodus Jesus references the burning bush incident when explaining the resurrection {Exodus 3:6; Matthew 22:32; Mark 12:26; Luke 20:37}
He recalls the Ten Commandments when telling a rich man how to enter the kingdom of God {Exodus 20:12–16; Matthew 19:18–19; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20}
This is your own blunder, you have just announce you haven't a clue about nothing concerning God, the scriptures were written by inspired men of God, in this case, "No scripture would have been written down, if God wasn't in the picture..

9inches:
Another blunder! The bible was NOT written by God. Those are the kind of things you learn from Martin Luther.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:15pm On Apr 03, 2018*

You are working yourself up over nothing-it's always the same with you disbelievers, you expect us, to bow down to you, when in scripture you don't believe it yourselves, you are now telling me, the bible was written by Martin Luther-and not God?
{Luke 10:1-17}
1 After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go.
2 He told them, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.
3 Go! I am sending you out like lambs among wolves.
4 Do not take a purse or bag or sandals; and do not greet anyone on the road.
5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’
6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.
7 Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.
8 “When you enter a town and are welcomed, eat what is offered to you.
9 Heal the sick who are there and tell them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’
10 But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,
11 ‘Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a warning to you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God has come near.’
12 I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
13 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
14 But it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.
15 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades.
16 “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.
”Is this story not written in your bible, that you refuse to believe-Who are the 70-72? That Jesus sent out while Jesus was alive?
Hypocrite "this is the same bible, you have quoted scripture from the beginning, since we have started any conversation, you have not produced another bible-you even told me I was echoing of you concerning the scriptures, "Hypocritical, it is impossible to echo of each other in scripture, if you haven't the knowledge to even understand how the bible is written, and who had written it.

9inches:
You are not agreeing with the Word of God the way it's writers taught it. You are only agreeing with it the way Martin Luther wrongly taught it.

Jesus did not send anyone to the Gentiles when he was alive.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:28pm On Apr 03, 2018*

9 inches, when I look at a verse, I don't just see that one verse, I see a bigger picture to that one verse, "And this is why, when one receives the Holy spirit, one can not just see one verse, but many verses lining up with each other.
This is why we are having trouble communicating, and this is why it is important to receive the spirit of the Lord, it's basely impossible to communicate with those who haven't received. The bible is actually confusing, to the unknown.
Sample: {John 11:25-26} Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me will live, even though he dies. And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”…
This verse above does not stop here, People are told if they just believe in Jesus, they are saved, "Wrong" I can walk into a junkies paradise, and ask then do they believe in Jesus-most of them say, they believed in God, many of them say, they were once saved, others say they believe something.
{Matthew 24: 12-14} Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.…
The point I am making here, I see a bigger picture in each verse-and the above verses says it as it sounds, it's so true, Jesus said: those who endure to the end are saved, not before the end, "No-one is saved on that day-when the parents or themselves had decided to make their commitment to Christ-this was only the beginning to live by faith, until the end of our time..
{James 2:18-19} But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
Most Churches are told because of their infant baptism, or they had made a decision to be born again saved, and no-matter what sort of life they have chosen to live by, either if they go to Church every Sunday or not, they are already in heaven, people believe almost everything they are told by a Priest, Pastor, even the Pope said: atheist can go to heaven by their good works.
Jesus said: those who believe in Me will live, and then Jesus said: {Matthew 15:8-9} ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
This verse above reminds me, of: {Galatians 2:11-13} But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.
Peter was teaching as doctrines the commandments of men, apostle Peter was not preaching the gospel Christ had commanded him to preach. So we have Paul preaching the truth, and we have Peter preaching the lie.
{Matthew 22:14} Many are called, but few are chosen. "This verse sure has a long life sting to it.
It's scary to think-who is saved. Man if WW3 started at any time soon, who would survive?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:08am On Apr 03, 2018*

Finely I believe you are starting to learn the scriptures, I am agreeing with the Word of God-not to your echoing, you have been bouncing of the scriptures since we had started this conversation, it's the Word of God that had confused you, I am only a messenger delivering the message-I am not echoing of you, you were looking in the mirror bouncing of each other.

9inches:
So in as much as most of the verses you quoted above have nothing to do with the Gentiles

My page above has everything to do with the Gentiles, what your problem is, you don't believe anybody other then Peter's man made story.
Read and learn-{Galatians 5:2-12} “Now I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who receives circumcision that he is bound to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love.
You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion is not from him {Christ} who calls you.
A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view than mine; and he who is troubling you will bear his judgment, whoever he is.
Paul Confronts Peter, because Peter was teaching this false doctrine.
{Galatians 2:11-13} But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.
As we can see, some of the 11 disciples have falling away from the truth.
{Matthew 28:14-20} Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
A good Question to ask: did Peter obey Jesus's commandments? Jesus didn't tell Peter to stop at Rome-Jesus said: go out unto all the nations, which means, don't stop and claim to be Pope, but go out to all the nations and make new disciples, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you.
By Paul's statement in {Galatians 2} Peter was having trouble believing, even Barnabas was led astray, James and some of the others.
If Jesus only needed the 11-then why was Paul later called by Jesus to witness to the Gentiles, in scripture it proves Peter Barnabas James and some of the others were having disbelief, this is all the good many reasons why Jesus sent out the 70 disciples to reachout to the Gentiles, before the 12 had doubts.

9inches:
You not only agreed to my main point in your previous reply, you re-echoed it. So in as much as most of the verses you quoted above have nothing to do with the Gentiles, I have already in my previous posts mentioned how some Gentiles may have come in contact with Jesus. Just like the Canaanite woman put it, it's like eating the crumbs that fell from the master's table because the bread wasn't meant for them.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:52am On Apr 02, 2018

Are you on drugs?

schot:
you said it all. you r wise.

They are a good example of what Christianity is about.
The go around preaching the gospel to all nations.

They assure you that hard times will come and encourage to stand strong in faith unlike today's prosperity preachers.

They teach love.

They teach you to work hard instead depending on inexplicable miracles.

You hardly hear that a member of them molest an under aged kid.

They are united.

They make out time for the poor and needy.

They are not greedy.

What else is Christianity about?

I am not a witness but I study bible with 10s of them and they treat and respect me like a family.

Unlike what's obtainable in other religious organizations that see members of other denominations as unbelievers.a.My brother, please don't compare those invitation cards that my church and your church share to the books that the Jehovah witness share.

What's in our fliers? A theme, a programme, a venue, my pastor's selfie and a testimony that is most times false.

Bro, make we leave talk. I used to accept fliers because I write quotation of goods at the back but I have stopped since they started writing testimonies there.

Why invite me to your church program when you know that I am member of another church?

I see them as revenue generators for their respective churches.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:48am On Apr 02, 2018

I did answer it, but your problem is, you can't see it-because it's the Word of God, and {John 3:16} is not common to the JW's..

CANTICLES:
You have not answered the question.

Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Questions People Would Like To Ask God !!! by brocab: 1:33pm On Apr 01, 2018

My first ask: would be, asking Christ to set me free.
My second ask: would be, the Lord will close every door around me, that doesn't line up with the Word of God.
My third ask: would be, Lord protect me, I ask you for enough strength wisdom and knowledge, to know, I will never fall into the hands of the JW's, nor any other religion that claims their beliefs are more valuable then God's Word..

CANTICLES:
It is not that atheists and skeptics are completely unfamiliar with religion . On the contrary , their experience with religion is often what pushes them toward disbelief. Organized religion , they my feel , has failed to answer life's tough questions ? Ironically , they are often the same questions that people who claim to have faith in God struggle with . Consider three questions that many people would like to ask God if given the chance www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201510/questions-to-ask-god/

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:49am On Apr 01, 2018*

I suppose if you had read the scriptures-proper you would understand what this verse is actually telling you.
{John 3:16} For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
JW's believe Jesus is one of God's angels-brother of Michael, brother of Lucifer. And you expect me to enlighten you?

CANTICLES:
Why is he called " one and only son" ... Enlighten me ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:16pm On Mar 31, 2018*

9inches:
After going all full circle, you seem have agreed and re-echoed to my point!

Before you jump ahead of yourself-maybe you should be searching the scriptures about the 70 disciples, they were preparing Jesus's path, before the 12 started their ministry-were the 12 ready {We just need to look at Judas?} has everyone forgotten about the 70-72 disciples, filled with the Holy Spirit preaching the gospel to the nations, with signs and wonders and miracles already at work, every village the 70 entered, people knew Jesus is the Messiah, and He is coming.

9inches:
Now you realize it was the disciples that considered taking the Word of God to the Gentiles, not Jesus nor anyone in the Old Testament.

It was not only the 12-as you recall, matter of fact Jesus was preaching to the Gentiles all along, healing them and casting out demons-His 70 disciples were also filled with the Holy Spirit casting out demons and healing the sick, preaching to the Gentiles. It's commonsense these 70 preached in Samaria, before Jesus entered there-the women at the well, knew the Messiah is coming to save the gentiles.
{Matthew 10:5} However, Jesus Himself instructed His disciples, “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.”I believe this was the plan to save His own People, but Israel murdered Him.
Look at the story at the well, Jesus went out of His way to minister to the Gentile woman of Samaria, while the disciples were close by.
But Jesus never gave these same restrictions' to the 70. it was later-Paul actually preached to the Gentiles, while Peter was led to the Jews, "Peter was more concerned about the Mosaic Law, and it's rules and regulations, then he cared for the Gentiles, Peter was more concerned about circumcision and uncircumcised
He then commissioned the 70, giving them these instructions: And this is foundational. The 70 were to divide into pairs and visit all the places where Jesus was about to go. {Luke 10:3}
Jesus did speak of the great need for evangelism. {Luke 10:1–2}
The 70 were like lambs among wolves, surrounded by danger, they lived by faith {Luke 10:4}
The 70 were to carry no extra provisions. They carried the message of Jesus and didn’t need to be burdened down with material things.
The 70 were to greet no one along the road and not allow themselves to be sidetracked from the more important mission of evangelism.
Heal the sick {Luke 10:9} Jesus gave the 70 disciples specific authority to heal diseases and illness, It was as if the Great Physician had 70 interns making house calls. When the 70 returned to Jesus, they jubilantly recounted how they were able not only to heal diseases but to cast out demons as well {verse 17} The 70 were proclaiming the kingdom
The message of the 70 disciples was simple: “The kingdom of God has come near to you.” This was a clear-cut call to faith in the King who would soon visit each village.
Jesus then told the 70 (or 72) disciples that they might expect rejection in some villages {Luke 10:10} and He told them how to respond: publicly wipe the dust of that town from their feet {Luke 10:11, 9:5} proclaim the kingdom one more time, and warn them of coming judgment {Luke 10:12}
A similar commissioning had occurred with Jesus’ twelve apostles as the Lord sent them out to cure diseases and cast out demons {Matthew 10:1–42; Luke 9:1–6)
The main difference is that Jesus had told the Twelve that they were to preach in Galilee, avoiding Gentile areas and Samaria, but the 70 (or 72) were given no such restriction.
It is true that Jesus’ original mission was to the Jews. but the time flame had changed-the Scriptures testify that “He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him” {John 1:11} "The official Jewish position was to reject Him as their Messiah, and to crucify Him {Matthew. 27; Mark 14; Luke 22; John 18}
Finely it was after His crucifixion and resurrection that the mission of the 11 disciples was to go to the nations.
Plus the story about the two of the 12 disciples rebuking someone on the road, a lone-ranger preaching the gospel and casting out demons in Jesus name.
{Mark 9:38-39} John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone else driving out demons in Your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not accompany us.” But Jesus replied, “Do not stop him. No one who performs a miracle in My name can turn around and speak evil of Me.…
This person didn't walk with the 12, this lone-ranger filled with the Spirit of the Lord-acted upon the commandments Jesus had given him to make His paths straight.. If anyone was to start any Church-than one would think these 70-72 candidates in Jesus name-would have prepared some of the way for the 12, plus without the Holy Spirit, nothing was done right.
So about fully agreeing with you, "No" not yet..

9inches:
After going all full circle, you seem have agreed and re-echoed to my point! Now you realize it was the disciples that considered taking the Word of God to the Gentiles, not Jesus nor anyone in the Old Testament. I hope you're now slowly realizing that to fully understand the scripture in its exegesis and hermeneutics, that you need the people who compiled the bible and authorized which book or letter should be regarded as Scripture and which should not make it into the finished bible.

A bible-only christian is like reading a quran-only muslim who disregards the sunna.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:11pm On Mar 31, 2018*

Riofidelio: with the above message you have provided, it shows you are either completely lost, or you are on your way to be lost either direction-you are not listening, if you were to study the scriptures, then stay on track, the above message, is completely in la la land.
I advise you if someone is teaching you, the above message, Quickly run away-because it isn't worth your wild not knowing God at all.
If you are searching the scriptures, then study alone-talk to Jesus, ask Him to come unto you, and teach you the Word of God through His Holy Spirit.
Riofidelio: not knowing God, is a big mistake, we are either hot for God, or we are cold for God, JW's are lukewarm for God.
If you are thinking about joining the watchtower, or if it is 'to late, and you have already joined-then test yourself, do you believe in the God who's written in the bible, or is there another 'you worship.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 3:49pm On Mar 30, 2018*

Where are you searching-were you just saved within the watchtower..Are you a JW? or are you confused? Which bible are you reading?

Riofidelio:
(Jesus is one of God's mighty son's

I suppose Lucifer is the other son?
Please explain, how many son's did God the Father have, in scripture In {John 3:16} For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
This is written in the New World Translation bible-What else is the watchtower teaching you, these days?

Riofidelio:
A SON is given and PRINCELY rule will come to be upon his shoulder (Jesus will rule the Earth under the direction of his God and Father as a "prince" Wonderful Counselor (Jesus' useful counsel will benefit all those who heed to it) Mighty God (Jesus is one of God's mighty son's who are also referred to as God in the Bible but he's not the ALMIGHTY GOD) (Psalms 82:1/6) Eternal Father (After Adam has placed mankind under condemnation through his action in the garden of Eden, we need another father who will lead US back to God and this time not the one from whom will inherit sin and death anymore but everlasting life in view as he teaches US as children how to obey and remain obedient to God just as God commanded parents to inculcate HIS divine laws in the heart of their children so Jesus becomes our everlasting father rather than 'Adam our biological dead father') Prince of peace (All those who follows Jesus will become peace lovers as he taught them never to lead with harmful weapons) That's the full meaning of Isaiah 9:6 according to JWs explanation but you can present a better and much more meaningful interpretation of it Sir!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 5:46am On Mar 30, 2018

To whom do you seek? Do you know Jesus-have you asked Him to show you the way, in spirit and in truth..

Riofidelio:
BRAVO! Please don't leave me out, direct me to your source of spiritual enlightenment,i'm willing to learn and ready to humble myself but if it's just the normal Theocratic Ministry School i've enrolled already for that one because i want to become adequately competent and completely equipped as a Christian. 2Timothy 3:16/17 Agape my brother!

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:15pm On Mar 28, 2018*

It is only shocking for you-is this your answer to {Matthew 10:5} Still you haven't completed your first request.
PROBLEM: Jesus told His disciples to “make disciples of all the nations” {Matthew. 28:19} because He had “other sheep ... which are not of this fold” {John 10:16} {Jesus already had Gentiles, lining up to believe}
Even the OT prophets declared that Jesus would be “a light to the Gentiles” {Isaiah 49:6}
The Samaritan woman knew the Messiah is coming..However, Jesus Himself instructed His disciples, “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.” {Matthew 10:5}
But yet Jesus went out of His way to minister to the woman of Samaria, while the disciples were with Him. {John 4}
Later, He affirmed, “I was not sent, except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” {Matthew 15:24}
SOLUTION: These apparently contradictory commands refer to two different periods.
It is true that Jesus’ original mission was to the Jews. But, the Scriptures testify that “He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him” {John 1:11}
The official Jewish position was to reject Him as their Messiah, and to crucify Him {Matthew. 27; Mark 14; Luke 22; John 18} Therefore, it was after His crucifixion and resurrection that the mission of the disciples was to go to the nations, not before.
This was in fulfillment of prophecies about the Gentiles. Thus, the Apostle Paul could tell the Roman Christians that the Gospel was “To the Jew first, and also for the Greek” {Romans 1:16}
Because of their rejection of Jesus, the nation of Israel was cut off {Romans 11:19} but, when the subsequent “fullness of the Gentiles” {11:25} has been completed, then Israel will be grafted in again {11:23, 26} Of course, even though Jesus’ mission was officially to the Jews, He did not neglect Gentiles.
He healed the Syro-Phoenician woman’s daughter {Mark 7:24–30}
He told His disciples of His anticipated work (through them) among the Gentiles {John 10:16} and His Great Commission was to “make disciples of all the nations” {Matthew 28:18–20} But, both in order of priority and time, the message of Christ came first to the Jews, and then to the Gentiles.
It just tells us Peter wasn't the one that started the Catholic Church first..

9inches:
Already answered: He sent them to the Israel only because they were the chosen people, not the Gentiles.

Read: John 11:52, Isaiah 56:8, Jeremiah 23:3, Ezekiel 34:23, Ezekiel 37:24 and Micah 2:12.

Wrong! Matthew 10:6 says "Go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" because Matthew 15:24 says "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." That is your "Why".

Shocking, isn't it?

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 4:49am On Mar 28, 2018*

You haven't answered the question to {Matthew 10:5-6}

9inches:
Jesus did help Gentiles who approached Him and asked His help, but going to the Gentiles, seeking them out, was not His mission. It would be the mission of His Church. “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations…” (Mt. 28:19)

{John 10:16} And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.

9inches:
but going to the Gentiles, seeking them out, was not His mission.

{Then who are these, that does not belong to Jesus mission?}
The problem I am having with your answer is, it missed the point of Matthew completely, The disciples weren't allowed to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, "Why" they were babe's training to be Spirit filled men. We are no different we come as babe's training to be someone in Christ.
But look at the outcome after Jesus departed, these men were Spirit filled believers, the sick are healed, the blind now see, and the dead had raised.

9inches:
Do you know who was referred to as "the chosen people"?

Mt. 15:24 "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Mark 7:27 "Let the children first be fed, for it is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs."

Jesus did help Gentiles who approached Him and asked His help, but going to the Gentiles, seeking them out, was not His mission. It would be the mission of His Church. “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations…” (Mt. 28:19)

Want to know when and how the Gentiles received the word of God? Read Acts 10 and 11.

It was also debated at the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15). In Acts 15:1-5, when some of the converted Pharisees of Jerusalem discover the results of the first missionary journey of Paul, they urge that the Gentiles be taught to follow the Mosaic law. Recognizing the authority of the Jerusalem church, Paul and Barnabas go there to settle the question of whether Gentiles can embrace a form of Christianity that does not include some Jewish obligation such as circumcision ans subsequently, the dietary laws.

1 Like

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:06am On Mar 28, 2018*

Jesus told His 12, only to preach to the house of Israel, was it because the 12 disciples were in training and they were not yet filled with the Holy Spirit, Jesus would of course had known the disciples were not ready to preach to the nations, {Judas for instants} they were not ready while Jesus was present in person-walking with them-the disciples received the Holy Spirit after Jesus had departed, not before.
{I don't know about you-but preaching the gospel without having the Holy Spirit in place-would be like someone twisting the Word of God and telling fairy tale stories, just like when I read up about the Catholic Church, I find myself in no mans land, the timing doesn't line up with the Word of God, and the disciples were already preaching to the Jews, before Paul was even on the seine preaching to the Gentiles}
Trying to preach the gospel without the Spirit of the Lord, is like telling God 'He made a mistake, "The Church had already began in {John 20:22} receiving the Holy Spirit at Pentecost {Acts 2:4} it is believed that Barnabas started the Gentile Church in Antioch, because of the Roman persecutions, against the believers..
Just like John the baptist-Jesus already had the 70-72 filled with the Spirit preparing His way preaching to the Jews and Gentiles, the 12 disciples were not actually with Jesus while Jesus spoke to a Samaritan woman at the well, must of confused His disciples, when they returned, and seen Jesus talking with her, Jesus did say: preach only to the lost sheep of Israel-notice the woman knew the Messiah is coming to save the Gentiles too.
I can only say with my own knowledge, if it's the case, why the disciples weren't allowed to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, is it because they were still babe's training to be Spirit filled men, Jesus knew they weren't ready to accept the Holy Spirit, when we read the scriptures-they were having trouble believing in Jesus, and we must believe, before we can receive-did these back street boys even know the Koran?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:27am On Mar 28, 2018*

Since you feel it is a waste of time, reading between verses-and of course you are Catholic and Catholic's do believe they have all the answers, then at least answer it the correct way..

9inches:
So in short summary, why did Jesus say "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel"?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:08pm On Mar 27, 2018*

See the problem is, I have been explaining to you all along, I have used other verses to help you understand the scriptures. since we have started the conversation, everyone in their right mind knows Matthew is just one chapter that lines up with other scriptures concerning this topic..If you know the answers, then explain-instead of mocking everything we write.
{John 10:16} And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. {Who are these, that doesn't belong to Jesus's fold?}
The common belief, as I understand it, is that this refers to the division between Jews and Gentiles. But when Jesus first sends out his disciples he specifically tells them not to preach to Gentiles {Matthew 10:5-6}
I could only suggest, While Jesus was with the 12 disciples, they weren't ready to receive the Holy Spirit, Of course Jesus knew Judas wasn't prepared to obey the commandments of God, the 12 were still in training to start His Church. And Jesus knew He already had 70-72 filled with the Holy Spirit preparing His way. just like John the Baptize he was filled with the Holy Spirit preparing the way for the Lord.
These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
In {Matthew 15:22-24} He certainly still kept this mindset, saying "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
When He speaks to the Samaritan woman at the well {John 4:4-7} it seems to be out of the necessity of thirst that He speaks to her (and it seems to be only out of necessity that He is in Samaria' at all)
While he does volunteer to help the Roman centurion (Matthew 8:5-13) this may have only been in deference to the authority that centurion seemed to be very keen on asserting.
We do know that he did change his mind on this matter, as at the end of his life (or rather after the end of it) He then commanded his disciples to preach to all the other nations {Matthew 28:18-20}
Not only Jesus that spoke outside the square, but the 70-72 spoke outside the square of Israel, while Jesus told the 12, to only preach to the Jews, but after the crucifix He told the 11 to preach to all the nations, Just like Jesus prepared Bahamas and Paul to preach outside the square.
And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
If he was referring to Gentiles when he said "I have other sheep that are not of this fold", then he must have already by that time put aside the idea that he "was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel".
Is there a text that suggests this? (If not, the idea he meant Gentiles must come from somewhere!) When in general does Jesus begin saying that his message should or will be preached to Gentiles?

9inches:
I did not ask you to quote and explain another verse. I only asked you to explain {Matthew 10:5-7} [b]only[a]. What did Jesus mean by that statement where He excluded the Gentiles?

9inches:
Since you want to help solite3, the question was to explain the following statement. "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel."

Christianity Etc › Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:36pm On Mar 26, 2018*

The answer is starring at you to your face, and still you want the answers, read the scriptures, before and after.
Not only to the Jews, but also to the Gentiles.

9inches:
"Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel."

You just need to study up on the scriptures, to find out why the Gentiles were taught about God in the first place-and why God allowed Saul {Paul} preach to the Samaritans {Gentiles} it was because of the hardness of heart from the Jews.
The story about Jesus talking with a Samaritan Woman-a Gentile at the well-The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.
She already believed Jesus is coming to the gentiles, before Jesus spoke to her at the well..
Saul also believed Jesus in Spirit and fell to the ground "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? In the Bible, the Lord Jesus commissioned him to take the gospel to the Gentiles {Acts 9:1–19}
Don't forget-Saul and Barnabas came after the first 12-{Acts 13:2-3} As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away.
Saul and Barnabas Job ended up preaching to the Gentiles, because of the Jewish disbelief.
{Acts 13:42-48} So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. Now when the congregation had broken up, many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God. But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy; and contradicting and blaspheming, they opposed the things spoken by Paul.
Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles.
For so the Lord has commanded us:
‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’
Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
Not only to the Jews in Israel, but also to the Gentiles, because of the Jewish disbelief..
{Galatians 2:6-8} But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—{The Catholic's believe God gave personal favoritism only to Peter, but of course the bible said: no-man receives personal favoritism} for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised {Gentiles} had been committed to me {Paul} as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles)
Meaning both Peter and Paul received the Holy Spirit preaching the gospel to the nations-baptizing everyone who have chosen to believe in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. {Again this questions the infant baptism}
Peter preached to the Jews, Paul preached to the Gentiles, If it wasn't for the Lord to send Paul to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, then you, nor I, are worthy to speak about the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob.
It is quite sad how you have treated Solite3, who is my brother in Christ, because we both believe the scriptures, and of course you wouldn't accept Solite3, nor do you accept I, as your brother, only because we are aliens to your doctrines, and Jesus said: His kingdom is not of this world.
And if you can't believe the scriptures, then who can teach you.

9inches:
Since you want to help solite3, the question was to explain the following statement. "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel."

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 (of 172 pages)