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"True" but we aren't just in one city-we are all cities spreading the gospel to the nations.. doyinbaby: |
James White had done a good job preaching the Word of God-James smashed it, he proved the bible is our only sauce to retrieve all truth-but because the Catholic's seeks after non scriptural knowledge, "God's Word had beating the Catholic's once again protesting against Him. If you have watched the other video-you would have seen-the bible is actually turning people away from-false religion, just like Martin Luther done. I never retrieved these video's from any Catholic sites, these you tube video's are open to the world. This is the video you have refused to talk about below-so let me show it to you again-and lets hear your views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngOJoU9aBIg 9inches: |
Since it's video's you are seeking, then lets start with a probate between Catholicism and protestant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE915fBzB20 This one is interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngOJoU9aBIg 9inches: |
Let us read to see who is making nonfactual sweeping statements about the Catholic Church-why did Martin Luther turn against the Catholic Church, if indulgence and Purgatory-were the truth found in the manuscripts written by the apostles? Why did Luther regarded this as a form of corruption-by his time, indulgences had evolved into payments that were said to reduce punishment for sins "Luther believed that such practices only interfered with genuine repentance and discouraged people from giving to the poor. {1 Timothy 6:5} Men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself. The Catholic Church demanded full authority, turned against Martin Luther, over unbiblcal literature, the Catholic's taught more money will save a multitude from going to hell, less money will put a multitude in Purgatory hell, until someone pays the price to set you free. The fact is the Catholic Church claims to be the One True Church of the Apostles, and Facts do change, "but the Word of God doesn't change. And the Word of God doesn't mention Peter spent time in Rome nor did the apostles dare to practice Christianity with paganism.. 9inches: |
Not many video's, I have been learning more about the Church of the Apostles? But I can't seem to retrieve any answers from the video's, you have supplied me. Your favoured Lizzie, wasn't any help to me, instead of looking at her own faults, she winches about others, nor did I find anything from that other video you had shared with me, he didn't make any sense-he's preaching was based around the Catholic Church. I am searching for the truth-and to learn about the apostles and the Catholic Church-I can't seem to find any positive evidence to prove they both line up with each other. "Actually it is only his say, her say, but nothing that really lines up on the same page. 9inches: |
Who is this little Child? And what is the purpose sharing her around to the world? Brey: |
9 inches-come out-come out wherever you are? It just shows when the truth is revealed, it shuts down false religion. This is why we stay with the Word of God-because no lie can penetrate through it. Every lie that tries to destroy the Word of God-breaks down to Nothing.. {Titus 1:6} They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. {1 Corinthians 8:2} And if any man think that he know anything, he know nothing yet as he ought to know. {1 John 2:4} He that said, I know him, and do not keep his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. And the Word of God continual's to everlasting life. |
9inches:The version of Sacred Scriptures used by Protestants today is incomplete according to the standards of the early Church. Protestants today are using a Bible that has only been in existence for about 150 years, and from this same 150 year old book-God uses it, and speaks through it, to us: The bottom line is, If you really knew Christ, you would know, the bible doesn't need more then 66 books. Jewish Definition of the Old Testament Canon is not Authoritative after Pentecost. After the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. the Jewish Council of Jamma eventually rejected the longer Alexandrian canon. Their reason was that they only had Greek texts of these books which at that time was considered "un-Jewish." They did not know at the time that the Hebrew originals of these books existed. But the decision of the Jews at Jamma (ca. 91 A.D.) is irrelevant for the determination of the canon of Scripture for Christians, for the Holy Spirit had passed to the Church at Pentecost and the legitimate authority for determining the canon was the early Church. There was some debate within the early Church as to the legitimacy of these "deuterocanonical" books. But Jerome translated all of them in the Vulgate, and the early Church recognized them at the Synod of Rome in 382. Which are these Old Testament Books? These Old Testament Deuterocanonical books that are divinely inspired are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), Baruch, 1st & 2nd Maccabees, chapters 10-16 of Esther, Daniel 3:24-90 (Song of the Three Young Men), Daniel 13 (the story of Susannah), and Daniel 14 (Bel & the Dragon). The Catholic Church defined this canon of Scripture early and very early Pope Damasus convoked a Synod in 382 and defined the Canon of Sacred Scripture as the Catholic Church recognizes it today. Similar definitions occurred in 393, 397, and 419 A.D. Trent affirmed the same long standing historical truth against the protests of the Reformers. Luther ultimately included all these books in his Bible. They were included in most Bibles until 1827. "Hence". Basic Principle: No sub-group in the Church has the right to eliminate books from the canon of Sacred Scripture because they contradict "favorite" doctrines such as "faith alone." History tends to expose the hidden or special considerations that cause groups to digger from the ancient understanding of the canon. Catholics should obtain Bibles for study and general use that contain deuterocanonical books. Three words are used to describe the authenticity of the canon: "protocanon", "deuterocanon" and "Apocrypha." Protocanon describes the books which all ancient Christians agreed were inspired Scripture. ("Inspired means God is the principal author, preserving the sacred text from all error.) Deuterocanonical means "second canon" books. Books about which ther was some debate but which were always included in the Church's definition of the canon. "Apocryphal" means doubtful or false. Catholics should be careful not to use "Apocrypha" to identify any of the legitimate deuterocanonical books recognized by the Church. It should be used only of books that the Church has rejected for the Canon. {1 Thessalonians 5: 19-22} Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil. It means test everything, and if it don't line up with any of the 66 books, then don't accept it, it's a lie. 9inches: |
{Mark 13:21-22} And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible.… Look here is Christ, He is with Lizzie, Marcus Grodi on the video below, look Christ is in the Catholic Church, Look here, or look there.."Do you know, those who accept Christ as Lord and Savior are brothers and sisters in Christ. You must be standing far far away, because I can't seem to find you anywhere? You know we recognize that we are called by God to a fuller realization of our unity in the body of Christ. The only unity to which we would give expression is unity in the truth, and the truth is this: “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.” (Ephesians 4) Do you understand what was said above: one faith, one baptism, Catholic's practices another "9 inches" test yourself-do "you" preach the Word of God? "There are still some very important issues that separate Catholic teachings from Christian teachings, true biblical Christianity is not a religion in the sense that one “joins” it by becoming a member of an organization. Jesus simplified what it means to be a Christian when He told Nicodemus that one must be “born again” {John 3:3} And as we see, Catholic teaching has gone far away from strict adherence to the Bible, adding human ideas and “teaching as doctrines the commandments of men” {Mark 7:7} Lizzie and yourself are of the Pharisees of Jesus’ day had done the same thing with God’s Law, and it appears that Catholic tradition follows more closely in the footsteps of the Pharisees than those of the apostles. An interesting sight about your new profound video, while watching I see in the corner, a cross of the Knights Templar. {Freemasonry Masonic Illuminati} "Templars, were a Catholic military order recognised in 1139 by papal bull Omne Datum Optimum of the Holy See. I have asked this same old question before about people returning back to Catholicism-is there anybody out there you could show-who is not rich and famous, someone who had been through the mill-with Church and had returned because he/she seen a vision, or a dream or something that could open up a new page? Because every time I asked-I receive so called religious celebrities, like Lizzie now Marcus Grodi who's running his own TV show-Marcus is founder of the Coming Home Network International. Freemason Converts to Catholicism, only because Freemason never left Catholicism.. 9inches: |
So your plans were to attack me, why use Lizzie, she did no harm to you, and plus who wants to listen to Lizzie, you are the one that started the conversation, "and still I am waiting for you to produce the Word of God, and still you have refused to do such? Why believe in God' when the Catholic Church is base on Theology & Science. 9inches: |
If you were to attack me with Lizzie issues, then at least give us a sign from above? 'Lizzie is harmless, she's on you tube, just to be heard, she isn't there to lead a multitude, "And plus is anybody outside the square really listening to her ![]() You said: you were to teach me-but still I am waiting, my request was, as long as you are preaching the Word of God I am interested. You keep on giving me Catholic theology about sacred traditions, you haven't yet completed my request-I think I can workout the problem, you don't know the differences we have between both Catholic's and Christians? We know the Catholics view of the Bible as having equal authority with the Church and tradition. "And we know Christians view the Bible as the supreme authority for faith and practice. {2 Timothy 3:16-17} tells us, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. Scripture is not “just the beginning,” or “just the basics,” or the “foundation for a more complete church tradition, Scripture is perfectly and fully sufficient for everything in the Christian life. Scripture can teach us, rebuke us, correct us, train us, and equip us. “Bible Christians” do not deny the value of church tradition. Rather, Christians uphold that for a church tradition to be valid, it must be based on the clear teaching of Scripture and must be in full agreement with Scripture. Catholics believe otherwise. The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation {John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9} The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. 9 Inches, I could write the differences we have between both parties all day long, but if you aren't willing to study the Word of God, then are you wasting your time? 9 Inches, you can accept this as some kind of a warning “or you can receive it as a blessing. Do you know {John 1:12} Through faith {Romans 5:1} God loves us and offers us salvation as a gift, {John 3:16} If you desire to have all your sins forgiven by Christ, and not a priest who thinks he has this authority, if you desire to have assurance of salvation, If you desire to believe in salvation, and if you desire to have direct access to God who loves you, then receive it, and it's yours. 9inches: |
Haven't you felt you have been walking around in circles, you believe in a religion that not even you understand the hidden agenda's behind the scenes, try studying and learn why you don't see the things, you don't know. You see the truth, it's written-but you don't know it.. Do you realise you are walking on dangerous grounds-fear God, You believe their is a God, good, even the demons believe and tremble. 9inches: |
Speak up man, and let us into your hidden agenda-open yourself up, what is it man, tell us what you would like to say? Heskay001: |
The truth is you are afraid what you will find, you ask me can I prove the claims-I did from a Catholic site. 9inches:It's time to wake up, I can find Catholic sites everywhere-the sites you have given me, holds no truth. Your Church holds hidden secrets, you are to blind to see behind the scenes.. Forget about those sites you have tried to lay upon me, they hold no truth, Catholic's do not practice such, if you are expecting me to believe the lies, then at least come up with some evidence, to prove the Catholic Church is not a cult. 9inches: |
Deeper Life Church is no different to the next Church that prospers prosperity Mammon and heaps of it. My Pastor lives the high road, while I am living the low road, I don't support the poor, I don't feed the hungry and I don't give water to those that thirst, "I give to the Church to support those needy, while my Church gives none. My Pastor prospers aeroplanes, large buildings, houses, and fancy cars, and food on his table, money in his pockets and money to burn, While my people are hungry, thirsty, in prison, sick and poor and dying, while my Church gives none? {Matthew 7:15} Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. |
Easy, I will help you find a little info, but If you are really serious, then just let your fingers do the walking-everything about anything is planted somewhere..But if you are not serious, then you are wasting your time asking, but don't expect me to believe with you, because if you can't provide the Word of God to back up your Church theories, then you are wasting every bodies time, turning a blind eye to the real God, will only cause you grieve.. The Pope Claims to be God on Earth Author: Amazing Discoveries™ Publish date: Feb 24, 2009 Summary: Read proof that throughout the Roman Church's history, the Papacy has often claimed that the Pope is divine. More Resources: Sarto's Homily Read Articles By Subject Reformation The Pope Claims to be God on Earth Share with others: Throughout the centuries of Rome's existence, the popes have regularly claimed to be divine. As the supposed successor of Peter, the Pope claims infallibility, the position of God on Earth, and ability to judge and excommunicate angels. A letter from Cardinal Giuseppe Sarto (who became Pope Pius X in 1903) as quoted in Publications of the Catholic Truth Society Volume 29 (Catholic Truth Society: 1896): 11. A letter from Cardinal Giuseppe Sarto (who became Pope Pius X in 1903) as quoted... Cardinal Sarto, who became Pope Pius X, said this: The Pope represents Jesus Christ Himself...i This belief has so assimilated into society's thinking that it is believed by many beyond Catholic circles. According to TIME, Pope John Paul II's assassination attempt prompted a young Jewish man to say, "shooting the Pope—It's like shooting God."ii The statement above-"Pope Francis claims to be the Holy Father, and the vicar of Christ, Pope Francis does not deny the fact he is just a man, he expects his followers to bow down to him, he claims to be god, and you ask me, how do I know? The Papacy is not the only source of papal infallibility doctrine. Many Catholics and others use the titles of Christ to describe the Pope, as seen in the video below. This video is featured in the lecture That All May Be One by Professor Walter Veith. Purchase the DVD from the Amazing Discoveries™ webstore or view the lecture on Amazing Discoveries™ TV. We just need to listen to these people live, just to prove the point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBo7xFMNZTo The Doctrine of Papal Infallibility is UnBiblical It is clear that "the Popes have never reproved or rejected this title"xii of blasphemy and flattery, but the Bible does not support the belief of papal infallibility. It declares that "all of sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Roman 3:23). This includes the Pope. These boasts of the Papal State fulfill the Bible's prediction of what the Antichrist power would do: And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws...(Daniel 7:25). And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (Revelation 13:5-6). But Jesus knows you, that you do not have the love of God within you. Jesus had come in His Father’s name, and you did not received Him; but if someone else comes in his own name, {The Pope} you will receive him. How can you believe if you accept glory from one another, yet do not seek the glory that comes from the only God? {John 5:42-44} 9inches: |
Have you run out of words to say-you can't speak up for yourself any longer-since Lizzie is you, try studying the prophesies,"Do you really believe pushing for a One World Religion will solve the problem around the globe, why are you and Lizzie pushing for the One world religion to reunite together? {Thessalonians 5:3} "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction come upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Have you no fear in God. {2 Corinthians 6:14} The bible say's-Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? The Pope already claims he is the Holy Father on earth, the vicar of Christ, the Catholic Church have already claimed they have the power to change the written Word of God. So how does light and darkness join us together? 9inches: |
I can see your paranoid state of mind had kick in, Yes either way, if you feel you have something to say-then say it, my asking to be kind is obvious, that you keep your identity a secret. By your fruit we will know you, so far, you are lost in your paranoia state of mind, the secret society Illuminati had risen up once again.. Does the secret society have anything good to say about Christ? Heskay001: |
If you didn't understand my question-then you haven't a clue what to answer, it must be difficult to be paranoid, we are all hear for the same reasons, sharing our views about Christ? You still don't get it, Why am I asking you? I suppose it's a sign to be friendly.. Heskay001: |
What is wrong with Lizzie's message? What is wrong with Lizzie's preaching, and what is wrong with the Catholic Church below, can anyone guess?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhW9vAwCqM If Lizzie was preaching about Christ-fair enough, but she doesn't preach about Christ, she is preaching about how she'd wished that everyone should become a Catholic, and that everyone should return back to the Church above. But who do we listen too Lizzie, or do we read the Word of God, and listen to God. {2 Corinthians 6:16-18} And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you {We} are the temple of the living God. As God has said:“I will dwell in them, And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people. "Therefore “Come out from among them, And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you. “I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty. 9inches: |
Does it offend you, I ask if you are a believer? Heskay001: |
This should give you a better understanding to your question, you know it yourself-you don't even believe that everyone outside your Church such as Martin Luther, has anything to do with knowing your god. {2 Corinthians 6:14-18} Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people. Therefore “Come out from among them, And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you. “I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty. Hmmm What did she say, she said: nothing that would surprise me, the question that should be asked, whom is she worshipping-God or Mammon, I had noticed, she's after the money-she's a talker, and talkers can be great sales personal's. She's not producing us the Word of God that back's up her theories, to much talking not enough evidence. Without producing the Word of God, she is preaching another doctrine, she is actually making you tube video's of herself, to be her god-she is no better then all those she mocks with great pride, nor is she better than a prosperity preacher asking for cash standing in the pulpit, twisting and turning scriptures, to suit their needs. If the Catholic Church isn't preaching the Word of God-then the Catholic Church is not preaching at all-she needs to know, the Word of God is given free of charge.. After searching the net, this came of interest to me, and why doesn't Lizzie make a video's of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhW9vAwCqM 9inches: |
Good question to ask? Feel free to join in.. And are you a believer? Heskay001: |
You have told me-what you believe, this is how I know. You are a Catholic, what more can I say, you keep on showing yourself on youtube, if you had returned back to the Catholic Church then it shows-you never knew Christ in the first place, you were never truly born again-instead you are seeking after another spirit-the spirit of the Catholic Church is not the Spirit of Christ, you have join together under the New World Order-Pope Francis is not your God on earth-Girl I advise you to cry unto the Lord and repent. True born again believers know Christ-and Christ knows His own, And people who claim to be under the banner of the universal Catholic Church denomination, are not born again believers, the fruit tells the story, born again believers accept Christ to His fullest, we believe everything Christ had written, we don't change the scriptures, we don't add all remove the scriptures, born again believers believe everything the Lord had taught us through the scriptures, you don't believe the scriptures is enough to know Christ, the Catholic Church is based upon the traditions, rather then based upon the Word of God. The Catholic Church practices tradition's that provides no evidence to prove, Paul had said this, or that, Paul taught on traditions he taught on the scriptures, he never taught to pray through Mary and the saints, he never taught Mary is the Queen of heaven-nor the Mother of God, nor did he teach on indulgence or purgatory-none of this is written in the bible-Paul preached about Christ, free of charge, Paul taught the traditions of God, not traditions the Catholic Church had added and acted upon. 9inches: |
I will watch the video.. 9inches: |
Sometimes we do have to jump over our busy times, and plus I will speak up for both 9 inches and myself, we are glad you have come back. solite3: |
You only think I don't understand the scriptures, only because you don't understand them, you don't believe in the scriptures as well as you think you believe, you are Catholic, obeying the traditions of Catholics, claiming you obey the traditions of the apostles, and expecting me to criticize the Catholic's as well as you do. You speak about Catholic's obeying Paul's directions on traditions, and the bible doesn't have enough input to go by; concerning the Word of God, this is why you obey the traditions. Talking about traditions, I do remember the Catholic Church do prefer women covering their heads, Paul preached on these traditions-for the Church-but he also taught-{1 Corinthians 14:13} Judge among yourselves. Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him? But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering. But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. But the Church still practices the women's head should be covered with a piece of cloth. How about this tradition, the Church once followed-{Corinthians 14:34-35} Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. So why do you still deny the Word of God-when the Catholic Church doesn't practice all traditions, mainly because women are now head of man as priest. 9inches: |
I just posted to you what the bible teaches, this is the truth, you yourself should be focusing upon, "as a Christian I had expected you to lead me to bible scriptures to retrieve any information I needed; 'but you have done the opposite, you have turned me away from the Word of God, expecting me to criticise-the things the Catholic Church refuses to teach preach and believe. {Romans 10:14-18} How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!" 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world.” So you see, this must be ripping you to pieces, we can try to understand different messages from other sites, we could criticise the differences between Churches-but the truth is, we don't need any other book-to show us the Christ-we need His written Word found in the bible. 9inches: |
How do you know what Catholics believe? Did you not direct me to different sites-do we not hear from worldly news, and does the net not spread news across the globe-all things, how we know what Catholics believe? 9inches: |
It must hit home-when the truth is revealed, poor old Martin Luther-a legend in his time-dead and buried is still under persecution by the Catholic Church that shows no remorse, no forgiveness, and no repentance towards God and humanity. There are more people in Churches all over the world today,"lost" and as I said above, and this isn't criticizing-your continualing hatred against Martin Luther, shows you have no fruit? Is the Word of God being preached amongst the believers: is there another tradition of doctrines stopping God's people from hearing the message of forgiveness. Count the many Churches who are guilty of crimes against God and humanity, is the Word of God being preached amongst the believers: or do we find another tradition of doctrines stopping God's people to gain eternal salvation. The bible said: Love thy neighbour' as yourself, the Catholic's believe, love thy self righteous, as themselves? 9inches: |
{Romans 10:14-18} How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!" 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world.” So you see, I am seeking the truth from you-not from sites that has no meaning.. 9inches: |
And plus-I was hoping you would explain why you believe in God-and why you prefer to believe in something other then God's Word? But no you have pushed this aside-hoping no-one will ask you such a question-you had given me websites that can't possibly answer this question. So of course this gives you time to crawl under that rock you once came out from, again.. Can't any Catholic-give me the answer, are you saved, and how were you saved, and who saved you? 9inches: |
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The truth is dealing with you and making you feel attacked, right? It's time to put down your ignorance and learn about God from the original Christian source.
