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pryme:
So you are saying The french doctor (Didier Raoult) made his conclusions without clinical trials on real patients?

Whether it's controversial or not, do your research on a topic before you start looking someone that is smart by half, and am sure you will confirm this by saying hydroxychloroquine has been killing people for years.

French doctor who championed hydroxychloroquine to explain his actions to lawmakers
Issued on: 24/06/2020 - 15:51

French doctor and virologist Didier Raoult, whose use of malaria medication hydroxychloroquine at a treatment for Covid-19 has attracted worldwide attention and controversy, was to respond to questions of a parliamentary committee investigating France’s response to the epidemic.

The inquiry of 32 lawmakers from different political parties was launched last month to “learn lessons” about France’s handling of the Covid-19 epidemic.

After looking into face masks, the panel was to turn to hydroxychloroquine, a malaria medication championed as a treatment for Covid-19 by Raoult, who was to respond in late afternoon.

“What we want to understand from Mr. Raoult is how he managed to follow a policy of mass testing in Marseille”, a city which had “mortality rates well beneath” those elsewhere in the country, said right-wing lawmaker Damien Abad on Tuesday.

Raoult, who heads the infectious diseases department of the university hospital in Marseille, became widely known to the public inside and outside France by promoting hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Covid-19 in late February, just before the epidemics were taking off in Europe.

He has proved a divisive figure in media, cultivating a shaggy-haired, anti-establishment persona with a penchant for controversial remarks, claiming in early February the coronavirus was “not so mean” and subsequently assuring there would be no second wave of infection.

Hydroxychloroquine

Raoult’s claims about hydroxychloroquine are derived from two small studies combining the derivative of the chloroquine molecule, used to treat lupus and malaria, with antibiotic azithromycine.

The doctor said in late February the drug was “probably the least expensive and simplest way to treat the coronavirus”.

The claims have met with mixed reviews among scientists and health officials, with some heaping praise on Raoult and others objecting that the molecule’s efficiency has not been proven and that it could engender dangerous side effects.

United States President Donald Trump and Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro have defended the medication and Trump once declared he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure.

French President Emmanuel Macron said he was “convinced [Raoult] is a great scientist” after meeting the doctor in early April and called on rigorous trials of the treatment.

But France banned use of the drug as a treatment for Covid and the World Health Organization (WHO) suspended trials in May, following the publication of a study in medical journal The Lancet that suggested hydroxychloroquine posed risks of heart problems.

But the WHO reversed its decision after experts poured doubt on the findings and the journal withdrew the study when its authors declined to provide its data sets.

Raoult has continued defending the treatment in the days leading up to his appearance before the inquiry.

“I treated more than 3,700 patients with this medication, with 0.5 percent mortality and no cardiac toxicity,” he told Le Parisien newspaper in an interview published Tuesday. “What more do you want?”

Raoult also said he believed a large part of French citizens are already immune to the disease caused by the new coronavirus.

“My hypothesis is that part of the population was naturally immunised against Covid before the start of the epidemic,” he told newspaper Le Parisien, but said he had no idea why there seemed to be an estimated “40 to 70 percent” rate of natural immunity.

“What is sure, is that by speaking about natural immunity, I’ll be set on fire by the laboratories working on vaccines,” he told the paper.

In regards to efforts to develop a vaccine, Raoult expressed doubt: “It is statistically improbably that a vaccine will be available” at this point, he said.

On authors of two recent studies published in British review Recovery and French revue Discovery claiming the treatment is ineffective: “They are ignoramuses” who either gave patients too much or too little of the drug. “Had they asked my opinion, they might have been more effective,” Raoult said.

Asked about critics saying he published too often to be credible: “Do you ask Mozart did what he did? I’ll add that in addition to 150 publications per year, I published 10 books at the same time. We are not all equal. In this country, we love to decapitate people.”

https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20200624-french-doctor-didier-raoult-championed-hydroxychloroquine-respond-covid-inquiry-france-mps-medicine

basilico:
Hydroxuchloroquine has been used all over the world with covid. Has been used for other diseases too.

pryme:
Was Trump the one that conducted the study of the Hydroxychloroquine on Corona virus?
Or did Trump invent the drug?

CoronaVirusRelo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaQnX2Zomyw

Bluebyrd:
The President of the United States has a duty to keep the nation from panicking while orchestrating the necessary response to any national emergency.

THAT is what Trump did.

feedthenation:
McEnany defends Trump after Woodward book claims he said coronavirus 'deadly,' despite publicly downplaying it

Woodward book: Trump privately called COVID-19 ‘deadly’ early on, boasted of secret weapons system

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/woodward-book-trump-covid-weapons

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcenany-trump-woodward-coronavirus


White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany defended President Trump on Wednesday after a book by journalist Bob Woodward claimed Trump said he knew the coronavirus was “deadly” but went to great lengths to downplay the virus in public.

“When you are facing insurmountable challenges, it is important to express confidence, it is important to express calm,” McEnany told reporters in a briefing from the White House.

“He makes clear that he doesn’t want to see chaos, by the way, which is the second part of the quote which you failed to read,” she continued, addressing a reporter who had read part of the quote.

“The president just days after having this discussion with Bob Woodward, said this from this podium, on March 30, he said, ‘I do want them to stay calm, we are doing a great job, if you look at the individual statements they are all true, stay calm, it will go away but it's important to stay calm,’” the press secretary said. “So this president does what leaders do -- good leaders -- it’s stay calm and resolute at a time when you face an insurmountable challenge.”


Another spin by the WH has begin

feedthenation:
'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book - with tapes

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html

President Donald Trump admitted he knew weeks before the first confirmed US coronavirus death that the virus was dangerous, airborne, highly contagious and "more deadly than even your strenuous flus," and that he repeatedly played it down publicly, according to legendary journalist Bob Woodward in his new book "Rage."

"This is deadly stuff," Trump told Woodward on February 7.
In a series of interviews with Woodward, Trump revealed that he had a surprising level of detail about the threat of the virus earlier than previously known. "Pretty amazing," Trump told Woodward, adding that the coronavirus was maybe five times "more deadly" than the flu.

Trump's admissions are in stark contrast to his frequent public comments at the time insisting that the virus was "going to disappear" and "all work out fine."
The book, using Trump's own words, depicts a President who has betrayed the public trust and the most fundamental responsibilities of his office. In "Rage," Trump says the job of a president is "to keep our country safe." But in early February, Trump told Woodward he knew how deadly the virus was, and in March, admitted he kept that knowledge hidden from the public.
"I wanted to always play it down," Trump told Woodward on March 19, even as he had declared a national emergency over the virus days earlier. "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."
If instead of playing down what he knew, Trump had acted decisively in early February with a strict shutdown and a consistent message to wear masks, social distance and wash hands, experts believe that thousands of American lives could have been saved.

#TrumpKnew pic.twitter.com/neTJS8Cw3x

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) September 9, 2020

feedthenation:

Just another example of the white Supremacist MAGA terrorist group Proud Boys violently attacking some protesters with baseball bats and pepper spray in Oregon.https://t.co/46potaTh0b

— Ricky Davila (@TheRickyDavila) September 8, 2020

According to their Supreme Dear Leader Trump, White Supremacists are very good set of people

CoronaVirusRelo:
Trump so excited by his nomination that he has to tweet it by himself.

disstroyy:
To prove you wrong further, I could go edit that article and insert any silly Leftist comment from this thread and my edits would scale through the approval process in less than an hour.
You want to bet on that?

OpenYourEyes1:
Well, you said you guys do those^... I didn't say that.
Anyway, I am referring to street riots and burning of things in babylon. That should be pretty easy to stop as a leader if you do what pleases GOD and HE is on your side. But satan is not interested in stopping the choas in babylon, in order to blame the system, change the democratic structure and mount fully as king and dictator. He is creating the choas in babylon(i am not talking about Nigeria). What I post on this Nairaland Section will speak for itself in the future. It's Truth and Prophesies from GOD. So, don't disregard them.

Choas definition:
1. complete disorder; utter confusion

2. extreme confusion or disorder

chaos
noun ≡ disorder , confusion , mayhem , anarchy, lawlessness, pandemonium , entropy, bedlam , tumult , disorganization The country appears to be sliding towards chaos.

budaatum:
[quote author=LordReed post=93668836]Here's something our Christian Trumpists might enjoy lol:

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

Golan007:
The question on the lips of all Nigerians:

Who is bankrolling you?

Blabbermouth:
LMAO... You still haven't realized that the principal goal is not proving buda's god but proffering a God-Test to filter and discern real God/gods from fake Gods.
No one here gives 2 shit about anything else.

Don't Forget That The Choas In A Country Is Caused By "Satan"

Blabbermouth:
Buda's god has its tail between its legs... Take it home bro, it's scared.

LordReed:
Contradict each other by whose account? Why can't a multitude of gods and goddesses exist in a plurality forms and locations?

Blabbermouth:
Fortunately, you are a Christian and you believe in the God of Abraham. So you are eligible for the challenge. Take your time sir, we have a handful of hours from now till 9pm.

loneprof:
Bros, please rest with your poor analysis, it makes no sense cos you're just trying to squeeze your opinion across no matter what...
And I clearly mentioned that the present corruption in SA started AFTER Mandela's presidency.

You really don't have a point!

loneprof:
It's unnecessary to mention apartheid cos that was clearly a government controlled and run by colonialists. You seem to have a poor sense of comparison. It's just like judging Nigeria pre-1960, it wouldn't make any sense...

sexylassie2:

Six Democratic mayors in Minnesota announced they've endorsed President Donald Trump over Joe Biden

https://www.cbs17.com/news/your-local-election-hq/six-democratic-mayors-in-minnesota-endorse-trump-over-biden/

You went to a comment section to bring out fake news without backing or facts..Just imagine, Supporters of dementia Joe Biden can believe any thing made from thin air

sexylassie2:
https://m.youtub e.com/watch?v=vk61w0OyGN4

Democratic Minnesota mayor voting for Trump speaks out on Fox News.

Minnesota is a swing state and it is going Trump

loneprof:
Well, it's not a bad thing that you're comparing SA to Nigeria, but remember their corruption just began after Mandela's exit but we have been fighting the issue of corruption since 1960. We don't even have the infrastructures they have, otherwise our GDP would be sky high.

Either ways, whether they'll bounce back or not isn't mine to determine, it's left to their economic team. I wish them well as a fellow African country.

loneprof:
They'll bounce back... It's a global issue.

Qstorm:
Feds Seize 19,888 Fake State Driver Licenses (Made in China) in Chicago O'Hare Airport - ALL Registered to Vote -- ALL Democrat

https://admin.halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/feds-seize-19-888-fake-state-driver-licenses-from-china-in-chicago-o-hare-airport-all-registered-to-vote-all-democrat?

OpenYourEyes1:
Can you be able to resist satan if you are slave of satan and don't have GOD in you? My posts was targeted at everyone (unbelievers inclusive).

LordReed:
Here's something our Christian Trumpists might enjoy lol:

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

OpenYourEyes1:
Are you suggesting that satan doesn't speak to man? He spoke to JESUS while HE was fasting.
Satan has false prophets and teachers he uses as vessels and speak to just as GOD speaks to HIS own prophets/teachers. Satan uses them for his evil works, right or wrong? What are you really arguing about, my friend? Or you just want to contradict the truth I posted up there.

MrPresident1:


Trump is a messiah in his own right. He restored Jerusalem to the Jewish people, and placed the abomination of desolation in the temple.

LordReed:
Here's something our Christian Trumpists might enjoy lol:

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/