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Kobojunkie:
You mean the passage you quoted out of context earlier is what you present in defense of Islam? You previously scolded someone else regarding the quoting of verses out of context, yet you turned around and did the same... expecting me to do exactly what with that? 🥱🥱🥱

No, kobo, I did not "did the same" and quote verses the out of context to prove the Bible advocated murder. You'd note this if you read the posts and those that succeeded it. And if you read the below specifically, perhaps you'd not accuse me so.

budaatum:
Your post is like me posting the below and then claiming Jesus is calling for the murder of those who don't believe what he says they must, which is just plain stup¹d and ïgnorant, and should indicate I have not read the book or just don't understand what I read.

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Luke 19:27

But I'm glad you did not fall into the trap and quote Quranic verses out of context. It ensures my regard and respect for you remains intact, somewhat.

Double0h7:
Yaaay, buda! I love this 😆😆😆

Show me the roots, have they grown?

Are you going to pot them or grow them in water?

No visible roots yet. The stem just swells and absorbs water, the shorter one much better than the tall one, which looks brown and unhealthy. I'm cutting off the dead part today in fact, hoping it might thrive.

Will pot in soil once healthy roots appear.

Double0h7:
Hey budaa ☺️

Just a reminder to buy yourself the best avocados and to start putting the seeds aside because February is a week away ❣️

BB says hi 👋

Double0h7, I could not wait till February, and by your inspiration decided to try bitter leaf, a vegetable I love so much.

I put stalks in water mid December, and now have some leaves.

EBEk101:
I’m sure you’re chasing men with money, not because your parents didn’t raise you well, but because you’ve chosen to follow society’s influence and the mindset often carried by most of your gender.

I wonder why you'd be sure I'd be chasing men with money when my parents have trained me to go earn the money directly myself and not just be influenced by society.

Is it because you "follow society’s influence and the mindset often carried by most of your gender" and believe everyone must be weak like you are?

Kobojunkie:
4. I don't do interpretations of any book. I read and comprehend what is written as it is written, and that book clearly states that all Jews and Christians(including all those who do not believe) are fodder for those who do. 🥱🥱

Quote chapter and verse that you read that tells Muslims to kill non-believers then. It is that simple!

Kobojunkie:
Again, Look up the meaning and correct use of the word again, if you are still struggling beyond this point.

I so love how you ignore the fact that a city with only 15% of Muslims elected a Muslim whom you believe practices a religion that you claim wants to murder you.

Even New York that is 57-60% Christain just elected a Muslim mayor, but you want to believe Muslims are encouraged by their Quran to murder non-believers, and you want me to discard all those opinions and voters that disagree with yours and elected a Muslim and consider yours worthy of consideration. Sorry, no can do. Enjoy your opinion.

And I have read the Quran. That's why I know it does not encourage Muslims to murder you! And that's apart from the fact that I bet you meet Muslims every day and none of them have ever threatened to murder you, yet.

Kobojunkie:
Recall what you, in fact, posted, which is...London is not predominantly Christian. Yes, there are more individuals in London who are recognized as Christian compared to those who recognize any other religion, but again, London is not predominantly Christian. 🥱🥱🥱

That is predominance! It means more Londoners are Christians than any other faith, and not 'most Londoners are Christians', which is what you seem to think it means.

The fact is London, which is 40% Christian do not think Islam promotes their murder, or they wouldn't have elected a Muslim as Mayor!

Kobojunkie:
1. Do I need to wait for a muslim to actually attack me before I can acknowledge that indeed the Quran is a book that promotes violence against those who do not subscribe to the religion?

Yes, I think you should! Unless you want to argue that Muslims don't do what you claim their religious books says they should do!

And for your information, the Quran does not "promote violence against those who do not subscribe to the religion"! And claiming it does is like saying Christianity promotes crusades because some Christians interpreted their Bible so, or that Muslims adhere to the interpretations of boko haram!

Kobojunkie:
Huh?

I knew you'd want to argue it, so explain to me please how Christianity, with 40%, is not the religion with the most adherents in London!

And yet, he plans to charge for it!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/14/gavin-newsom-healthcare-low-income-immigration-status

Kobojunkie, and before you start arguing about predominance, perhaps look up its definition.

As used, it means Christianity has the most adherents of any religion, and we Londoners, including atheist me, elected a Muslim as Mayor!

Kobojunkie:
1. It isn't? Please, do tell us what aspect of the post is not based on that which concerns Islam? I am actually interested in reading your rebuttal.

The problem with some of you is you completely disregard your own personal experience and say what contradicts said experience.

I am very certain there must be Muslims where you live. Pray tell, how many of them have tried to kill you?

When you go to the market, how many times have you asked the religion of the person selling to you to ensure you are not buying from a Muslim who wants to put poison in what you buy?

Regarding your "This topic concerns the religion of Islam and its teachings for those who subscribe to it", the Mayor of London subscribes to Islam and has not killed anyone yet, and nor do we Londoners have any reason to think he intends to, which is why we have elected him three times already.

As to your "First, London is not predominantly Christian", "the religious composition of London comprised: 40.7% Christianity, 27.1% No religion, 15.0% Islam, 5.1% Hinduism, 1.7% Judaism, 1.6% Sikhism, 0.9% Buddhism, 1.0% Other religion, and 7.0% Not stated". Wiki. And you contesting this makes me think you are just pulling your supposed facts out of thin air.

Fenrir:
Thats my beliefs,
I follow no religion
I practice no religion
I believe in no gods at all

Thats definition of atheist

That is your own definition of your own atheism, which is your "belief".

I do not believe there are no gods because I know there are no gods, and that gods are created by human beings who believe in their imaginary existence.

So perhaps you should go do some more research so your "beliefs" can become actual knowledge.

Fenrir:
Then we agreed its all fairytale because I did not say "either existed" I just stated a moral framework

Wise man
War lord

Mohammed is alleged to have written the Quran, so a fair comparison would be him with other supposed writers of Bible books, some of who were warlords. And I'm very certain you wouldn't claim the Bible advocates murder just because some verses state that their God told them to murder people. Or would you?

Fenrir:
You tried to imply JESUS called for murder.

No I did not try to imply any such stupïdness, despite that might be the understanding of the quoted text if not read in context.

It's the same way you inferred the Quran was calling for murder which it clearly didn't, but you couldn't bother reading the book to find out.

Fenrir:
There is no god or gods at all
Jesus was just a wise man not the son of a god
Muhammad just a warlord

There was probably no Jesus neither, but that's irrelevant since we can argue the stories even if made up.

Fenrir:
How many people did jesus kill?
How many people did Muhammad kill?

Are you suggesting we don't ask "how many people did the Christian God and the supposed father of Jesus ask to be killed?

Or is it that your own atheism separates the teachings of Jesus from that of the Old Testament it was built on?

By the way, comparing Mohammed to Jesus just shows the limits of your knowledge. It would be more appropriate to equate him with Elijah who executed 450 prophets of Baal, and Elisha whose blessing led to bears mauling youths who mocked him, and Moses.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, every religion out there is a scam, but we all know ......

No, kobo, I don't know what you claim. So please say you know, without including me in your "we"!

Fenrir:
See, typical religious person
You attempted to change the rules

1st it was Jesus and you were proven wrong then immediately switched to comparing the religions

Proving yet more hypocrisy in yourself

I am likely way more atheist than you are, and only your blindness would make you claim I am of either religion.

This thread is entirely about religions. And that includes all the priests and prophets and writers in their respective books! And if either religion were calling for the eradication of people of other faiths (as opposed to the ïgnorants who think some faith calls for such eradication) that faith itself should be eradicated!

Kobojunkie:
Oh, I disagree with your assessment of OP's post. And I also don't buy the claim that anyone who calls out the Islamic truth does so out of hate. 🥱🥱🥱

You are entitled to disagree. Especially when you call ops post "Islamic truth", which it clearly is not.

If op's post were "Islamic truth", don't you think most of the world would ban it?

And do you think predominantly Christian London would elect a Muslim as Mayor three times if what op posted were "Islamic truth"?

Fenrir:
And..... "luke 19:27" not "jesus 19:27" shot yourself in the foot there.

And I suppose you missed your own foot when you quoted "Mohammed 60:8" instead of "60. Al-Mumtahanah"?

Fenrir:
Muhammad and Jesus are the exact opposite so you cannot compare the 2 in the way you can compare the 2 BUT NOT in that way

Muhammad used the sword to convert
Jesus used a towel and served

Thats just the biggest difference

I am very certain I can compare Islam and Christianity however, especially since the latter is not all about Jesus.

Or would you like to say God did not tell his own converts to use a sword?

Fenrir:
.... and to be honest I could NOT tolerate much of it

Which proves my point. You didn't read the book, and are quoting verses out of context with no understanding whatsoever!

And I am a born atheist bred in Europe, not that that should matter.

Fenrir:
Quoting primary religious texts is not hatred.
Applying the same standard of scrutiny across religions is not hypocrisy.

Your post is like me posting the below and then claiming Jesus is calling for the murder of those who don't believe what he says they must, which is just plain stup¹d and ïgnorant, and should indicate I have not read the book or just don't understand what I read.

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Luke 19:27

Fenrir:
On claims of “peace”, friendship, and hypocrisy (texts only, no insults).

Now be true to yourself and post verses from the Quran that tell you not to be hostile to those of other faiths. You do know they exist, right?

I have added the next verse to your Quran 60:8, in case you can be honest and not lie.

Theawakensoul:
1️⃣ Jesus Was Murdered. Not Sent on a Suicide Mission
The idea that Jesus came specifically to die is a theological interpretation that developed later.

It is rather difficult for most to understand this.

Many can't possibly comprehend how much more valuable his teachings would have saved them if they hadn't stood there yelling "crucify him", and then absolve themselves by lying to themselves that it was their God's plan that they murder him. Yet, look at them with their sins that they still suffer the consequences of.

Anyone can go to this so called imaginary heaven now. They just need to discover hell too so you can have the option of which you fly to.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/2160380/Harvard-scientist-heaven-real-knows-where/amp

CyynthiaKiss:
Every Islamist must read and digest this.

Nlfpmod Nlfpmod

It is a great pity that your own religion, which is obviously not Christianity, did not make you resist posting hatred against your religious neighbours.

Food will indeed seem too cheap for a farmer who is not recuperating cost.

Trump says he reached a ‘framework of a future deal’ on Greenland.

He has one of these on his health plan too, so we can guess how this ends up.

Goldensword:
Trump is one of a kind, once a platform fails to favour him and do his bidding, he'll seek to establish an alternative to rival such platforms, when Twitter fails to favour him, he went on to open Truth social, Noble peace committee didn't favour him, now he's seeking to establish board of peace to rival it, same thing he's doing to every other establishments that have been in place before his emergence as POTUS.

Like he's proposing an alternative to the United Nations. https://wapo.st/3ZlDnds

Putin has not joined yet though
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/putin-has-not-actually-accepted-trumps-offer-to-join-the-gaza-board-of-peace_uk_6971e117e4b0e15d54cbe5ca

This is like me, buda, acquiring some sort of power and then insisting you all here must join some organisation I create.

The woke people might support me, and I'm very certain the non-wokes will too, since I'd have acquired some power to force you to, or I'll just tariff your asses with my powers.

https://wapo.st/3ZlDnds