₦airaland Forum

drakeli:
The ancient Jewish kingdom of Israel of the city of David had existed in the region before the Jewish State was conquered and Jews driven into exile by the Roman conquerors before the fall of Rome after which the Othoman empire took over which led to mass migration of Arabs to the holy land before the creation of the modern Jewish State.

So there were people there, right?

Don't leave out the mass migration of the Israelites to the region in the first place now. If you looked closely at those who have lived there for centuries, apart from their culture, they look no different to Arabs, to me, despite some claiming to be Jewish. That area was always occupied by people from all over as it was a significant point along ancient trade routes and hence a melting pot for whoever arrived there.

LordReed:
So? How does your unrefuted comments affect reality? Are Republicans not in charge? Are they pussies? Why is a wide open target walking scot free? Nail her to the wall if you have the evidence.

And amazingly, those responsible for going after her now seem to be going after their boss instead, and appear to be finding evidence too!

I know. They must be planting it!

PurestBoy:
To be honest with you, beating him has not made soft because no matter how much you do, he doesn't cry for more than 5 seconds and most time he'll quickly hug you and say 'I love you " before you beat him, I'll just be weakened and free him

I want to pray that anyone who tells you to beat this child would never have children but since there's no gods to hear me, it's rather pointless!

I was beat proper growing up so take my word for it, if you continue beating him, your cane will get bigger as he grows older till one day you will hit him with an odo (pestle for pounding yam) and your child will stand there looking at you as if you hit it with a tiny reed.

If he's smart and correcting others he is showing a will to learn! Please add discipline (set times for things) and reading to the sports I and many others have mentioned and cut out junk from your family's diet.

Damn, I think I've contributed to this thread more than three times already!

lordsbiz:
First thing off all, stop beating him for christ sake! Else you are going to raise an hell of a rogue. If he's hyper active then there is the solution.hes your beloved son, then spend quality time with him, put him into sport let him start sport early, it's has happened before it could happen again, once he starts burning all the energy he will naturally calm down! Who knows you might have a boy in your hands that will win more Olympic gold than all these losers we have. Lol. But the first thing is to start seeing his situation has a blessing, stop beating the boy don't destroy his moral, who knows you may kill so much more in him

Thank you. They will claim there is God and that he formed them in the womb and all, and they will go ahead and beat destiny out of their child!

Imagine if he had an interest in football. Everybody will be dead on their feet at full time and your son will be fresh enough to play another full game and because of that Chelsea will pay millions for him!

You said telly gets him quiet so there's nothing wrong with him, he just needs interests. You got two of them so they can play lots of sport together. Reduce sweet foods and buy a football please and tennis rackets and running shoes and lots of other sports stuff, and give him lots of encouragement! I see the Williams, except brothers, or a Tevez, or even Ronaldo. That Duracell in him is your blessing if properly directed.

This sounds like someone, before Nigeria's independence, claiming there was no Nigeria, to me. Fact is the area being fought over did have people living there before the creation of the Jewish State. Arriving Jews did after all buy land from the inhabitants of the land when they first arrived.

Tolexander:
I pray they don't turn to future G girls

Nogodye:
Awon future internet gangstar...Gender notwithstanding

I agree o. In fact, let us help god and do more than pray. I will start a petition that girls should not have electricity sef just in case. Any girl enter room light will just quench gbam and father's should all keep their daughters in the dark. Then they will know where they belong! You two can be the first to sign it.

That should stop your future!

stevolution5:
Please take note: All y'all jubilating, every other party refused to observe the election because of the governors heavy plans to rig the election.

So they just kukuma left him to not have to bother rigging it? Yep, that's wisesense indeed.

Jokerman:
27-0 However this na LGA elections na.... nothing new....

Don't mind the ijiots with their stupid fakenewsism! As if everybody don know say for Presidential elections, different people, true true Imo peoples will arrive to vote en mass for a different party!

Mechiornu, or how dem de talk am again?

And by the way, Imo is not Igbo land! Imo people no de support the man from Daura, least so dem tell me!

Afamed:
Then una need to re- examining una self, if that's the case. I definitely know you ain't speaking for the larger part of the East.

And hopefully, not a large part of anywhere in Nigeria!

PrecisionFx:
Senseless.

Someone once said:

PrecisionFx:
Sense is free.

Now, I'm seriously wondering!

Good day.

PrecisionFx:
Every Nigerian is suffering the same thing under buhari.

No food.
No water.
No electricity.
No education.
No quality hospital.
No employment.
Etc.

Oh gone are the days when food just dropped into one's closed mouth, water dripped from every tap, electric was like at the turn of a switch and people were born educated. Hospital? Who needed them since no one fell sick? Even the dead were brought back to life! Everyone was employed, even 4 year olds and their parents, and then came that nasty evil Bubu to turn our heaven Nigeria into hell!

Just goes to show how much education there really was, don't it. They must have scrapped history off the curriculum! I'm absolutely certain it takes more than 4 years for people to be stupidly ignorant! Perhaps they are all orphans too, or their parents would have told them about Nigeria like 10 or 20, or 30 years ago!

winner01:
- My response is that those who kill do not do so because of some god or no gods but because of their desire to fulfil their own selfish ends

- Keep this energy when you see atheists say that religion is the biggest cause of violence throughout human history.

- I'm glad you now get the point.

I, now get the point? You funny winner. Did you not somewhere claim to have studied sociology? I expected you to at least have gotten this point from the start! It is the reason I engage with you at the level I do. Or am I wrong about your studies?

Anyone who says "religion is the biggest cause of violence throughout human history" is ignorant, if they truly don't know otherwise, or stupid, if not ignorant since they know better! And the fact that some people are stupid or ignorant is no reason for one to resort to equal stupidity and ignorance in refuting their false claims. It is hardly expected from a sociologist of graduate level, and much less so if the person has gone further in the study. It's even more stupid for an atheist, who in effect says there are no gods, to go on and claim gods, that don't exist, killed anyone!

The biggest cause of violence amongst humans is greed and dominance. And to whip up the support of people, sentiment is often used. Race, is a common tool, and has historically been the most used. Ethnicity is another (consider Nigerian politics, our civilian war and Rwandas, and 1930 Germany), as well as Ideology, which include religious and economic ideology (first and second world war, the subsequent Cold War, the crusades, current so called Islamic terrorism and Mao's cultural revolution.)

Those who want dominance may claim some god said they should go to war, or that some god or ideology (including religion and atheism) is what the fight is against, but they just use that to deceive the poor fools who's blood would be shed in the achievement of the selfish ends, or even what they think is an altruistic motive, of their leaders.

If you ever need help challenging this stupidity by atheists (or anyone), quote me and call on me to support you please.

StillX10:
OP is high on some unknown weed

I am actually amazed that PMB is getting the support he's getting. Nigeria hasn't been easy during his rule but people still support him to the extent that I strongly believe he'd win the next election, and in my opinion, deservedly so.

Anyone who wants Atiku must definitely be on something weird. They definitely have an agenda which can't include anything that's beneficial or good for our country! They want a looter so they too can loot perhaps. Only thieves would want a thief in charge!

Sprumbabafather:
We need Saraki more

Lol!

Myjanuzaj:
The voting pattern of Igbos was clearly demonstrated in the only elections held in Southeast after APC took over power.

APGA = 234071 votes

APC = 98752 votes

PDP = 70293 votes.

Thats the opinion of the igbos in Anambra
Below is the opinion of igbos in okigwe zone of Imo state.
Okigwe North Senatorial Rerun Results:

APC 48,921.votes

PDP 40,142 votes.

So what do you mean by voting pattern representing opinion, what these 2 elections show is that APC has started gaining grounds in igboland by real igbos not hatefilled "igbo". Which opinion are you talking about? Are u talking about IPOB opinion?

If I cover my eyes and refuse to look, don't you know I can make up rubbish in my head and call it the truth? I did it with my bank account and now there's an imaginary million pounds in it. One day I'm going to the Ferrari shop to buy a spanking brand new red Ferrari with it, except I haven't yet figured how to get the salesperson to cover their eyes and accept my imaginary money yet.

But watch this space. One day go be one day, I swear!

Myjanuzaj:
I understand you now. Igbos dont want presidency.

Well, they have said it many times on here, and that they don't care, so there. One has to wonder though, why they criticise the President if they truly don't care! They should know that if you're not in the room when the cake is being shared, it might be a bit late when you're given the smallest portion!

I'd say, those they call Islamic herdsmen and 'afonjas' aren't as stupid as some!

Blessed are the peacemakers, for their's is the Kingdom of God.

MuttleyLaff:
All this write up for me

Of course "amala dudu" (i.e. black amala) is made from dried plantain & yam flour.
Amala dudu" is cooked for the Ibadan and the Oyo mesi environs palate (Osun and Oyo States)

"Lafun" which incidentally is white, actually is black amala's brother from another mother
"Lafun" is made from dried cassava flour & originates from Egba land (i.e. Ogun State)

An "abula" is "amala dudu" or "lafun" plonked in a sea of ewedu, gbegiri, obe ata with all sorts of assorted orisirisi meats, like shaki, ponmo, oxtail, raincoats, jackets, abodi etcetera

The plonking, in the midst of those usual suspects, is the recognisable sign, that tells you're having "abula"

I know by names, its run by them.
It's just that I was curious which restaurant, when I heard they managed a top restaurant in Lagos for a decade.
Thought maybe they gained their experience working in Federal Palace Hotel, Eko Hotels or somewhere similar

Lolak on Choumert Road hasnt got the appealing look. It, just get as it be. Soulless

Dont know whether you remember, the back in the day & now defunct "Adani", situated along New Kent Road?
Used to operate from one of the blocks of shops just before the Esso filling station

Mentioning "Adani" is taking me down memory lane,
now I am now reminiscing, losing count of the number of times, when waiters come to our table,
and plunge drinks on it, less than fives minutes of our sitting down, after arriving unannounced
then saying at and to our quizzical looks, that one of their patrons sitting at the far end, instructed them to serve my better half and I the drinks
Upon straining to see who is the person, it either turns out to be one of my cousins or one of our mutual friends

Enish, hands down, beats 805.
Dont get me wrong, I havent anything against 805, not especially since after their improved on interior, major upgrade works etcetera.
There is the new Empire to the right of 805 and two others to its left .
The first left is Ghanaian or Sierra Leone, whilst the further away left one is Naija, just like Empire is too.

Give the Barking Road East Ham/Canning Town DLR "Abula" a trial
Your life will never be the same again

Nkan ngbe. Schistosomiasis what?
Man is his worst enemy

I enjoyed reading you taking pride in reaping the benefits of your work
eating and enjoying the fruits of your labour

Life is too short. Sighs

I must confess that I never used to eat out much since I'm a rather good cook myself. And now I eat much less so it's hardly worth eating out. I bought a pressure cooker today thoug. I'm hungering for beans, so I'm going to get some panla and ede during the week and kill it in pepper. Might have it with some dodo though I'm not usually one for frying.

I went to the further away one recently when I found there was a shortage of Guinness. Ireland have copied Nigerians' and the shops in my neighbourhood were trying to palm it off on me. I went to the further away one in the afternoon and the waitress swore Nigeria was written on the bottle she had except when she checked she couldn't find it written anywhere. Next time I went she hid behind the counter. Only other place I do go on Old Kent Road is Le Joint. It's a fish place run by Lado or something close. Tiny, but my old school association get a good deal so we like it.

I used to go to a place in Deptford called Broadway. T'was run by a lawyer, least she said she was, and her sons, but it's shut down now. I've also been someplace popular in Deptford, along the market, but they got crawlies, and I hate crawlies despite their nice takeaways so don't go no more. Then there's Flames on Lee High Road which used to be my local long before Pastor Sam and his Ghanaian wife took over. It started off with some nice lady who made good food which I liked, then some guys took it over before P. Sam. I liked it because I could go in at 2am and still get fed, and since it was always dead, it was a favorite of mine to go read a book. At times you'd of thought I worked there.

Sola did say he started off in Lagos having learnt from his ma. I must say, they've made a good go at it and have even opened a second place, in Finchley, I think it is. In the early days it was me and a book there too, but they get very busy these days, or perhaps I don't go in the afternoon anymore after half days at work. I might go check one of these days

Memories! I used to help with planning applications is how I got to know most of the local places really, and the fact my living wasn't conducive to cooking much. We Nigerians seem to always be looking for some corner to cut so I had to insist on paying for my food despite them offering me freebies. I used to hate they'd get slack just because I'm Nigerian!

Talking about books, for like since I was seven and ma whipped reading into me, I'd read everyday and would sometimes have up to five going. But the last two years since I got back from Nigeria, I don't think I've read five books, and that's an exaggeration, I think closer to less than two and a half! It's why you're getting this long story. I make more words these days than I actually read! But I think podcasts are taking over. I'm currently hooked on the History of China, and plan to listen to the Bible again, but this time I might do it in the nude to see what barriers get broken down.

Damn, do I not just ramble on!

MuttleyLaff:
Nah, no competition,
If I had done a Bobrisky, and put on a low cut blouse, then that's competition and competing

Given half a chance, you too, will do same, jump, on an awoof parade

I dont know why I've never added fake love along with agape, philia, storge, pragma, eros, tough, philautia and ludus as another different type of love.
I included tough love but fake love escaped me.
It just beats me how it managed to slip through.

Come out of Canning Town DLR, and it less than 5 minutes walk to the destination.
I think the place is called "Squires"

If you say there's is one in Peckham, you're then prolly referring to the one on Choumert Street.

I put that nondescript joint on Barking Road, Canning Town end side to be precise, with their "abula" speciality over and above the Peckham joint

You know what "abula" is, dont you?
You've tasted and eaten "abula" before, havent you?

I like its ambience
Prior to setting up Enish, which restaurant and where in Naija, were the couple before managing?

Do I know what abula is? You funny. Ifon Osun is in Osun State. We not far from Ibadan. About an hour if I'm driving. In fact, you get to go through it from Lagos to get to Ifon. And since it's half way there, you got to stop at Ibadan for abula, except when Ibadan people say amala, you got to check they don't mean lafun. Drive on to Osogbo and you wouldn't be disappointed. And only sub amala for iyan if you're a pig!

Enish is run by Sola and Eniola Medupin, a husband and wife couple, now plus a daughter born last Thursday. Sola's ma ran a restaurant in Nigeria, so I'd say they got pedigree. I'm light weight these days so subbed my iyan for fried yam with efo riro and fresh fish and washed it down with a Gulder. If I move suddenly, I just might burst!

The Peckham joint is called Lolak and is run by Mama Lolak. It is on Choumert Street. Her abula is £8, so cheaper than most places. It's not so much a restaurant I suppose, but a proper buka. Might go there someday soon.

I'm walking distance to 805 by the way, but don't go there much. Been supporting Enish instead. But all this talk makes me miss home. Three day old from seed tete or ugwu mixed with ewuro both from my farm, cooked in palm oil from my very own palm trees, tomatoes and peppers with smoked fish caught in the Owala River, eaten with yams I planted and washed down with palmy from my own palm trees is to die for. Except the bloody river is infested with schistosomiasis during the rain season, which paralysed me from the waist down! Talk about an ab'olonje ku, except the onje is all grown and cooked by me. There's nothing like killing oneself with one's own hands, I tell you.

Oh me in gott! I'm afraid I didn't remember to share with you all until I was done!

Amberon1:
The ones you would debunk even with all the glaring evidence. I believe the op is a Christian and wants help from God hence his reason for bringing the story here.

God lives here on Nairaland now? Seun must have built a Temple. I strongly advise everyone to bow to God's anointed therefore!

MuttleyLaff:
I was doing attache and gumming myself to you.
Not only you but I too, like to be in places where love is shown
and especially, where shown with some money please.
I was tarting up to look good, for tagging along with your rendezvous with 5helumiel

I know.
Business rate etcetera are killing

Rain, at times, could be a killjoy

Have you being to the nondescript Abula joint on Barking Road.
as I dont want to get nicked for DUI,
I used to jump on the underground for having Abula and my Naija Guinness there.

Haba! Ota l'ekunle! I figured the tarting was competition, you slimy, jumping on my parade! Ah well seems the individual involved doesn't quite love as much as I was thinking. Must be that "agape love", which, if you asked me, is seeming more like some fake love that doesn't exist. It sure sounds nothing like the master taught, least not like I understand it.

No, I never been to a joint in Barking. There's one in Peckham though, a proper mama put, I sometimes go for a quicky. But it's Enish today. The owners are friends I haven't seen in a while so today na today! I might post a picture just so no one misses out.

MuttleyLaff:
I didnt read you call out for bookings, so whats the "you booked late" all about

You rather I have the appearance of a hobo

Sumptious and I am salivating already.

I dont want to get water on my hair, so if it doesnt rain tomorrow avo, I'll be there
If I didnt know you better, I would have taken you to be a tight-arse git for asking me to pay for your guilder, pounded yam and efo riro

It wasn't a booking. You seem to have seen it as one however, hence the tarting. And I was going for the Gulder and pounced yam anyway, and they don't exactly give it a way regardless of the tightness of ones ass! All the same, I think rain is forecast. Thankfully I got no hair!

klimkid:
Well i trust PMB on this, he will never reinstate the dismissal of the DSS boss.

If he reinstates him, I swear I'm turning pdp, even if it gives me bad belle!

edupedia:
....all those who taught u in school ought to be caned for planting nonsense in their students...

If I had the opportunity, all those teachers will pay back all the salary they earned and no pension too till their students wise up!

Shelumiel:
I am not gay sorry .

Oh good. Cheap then. You can show me love without me having to pay you back. You just shout buda when you walk through the door please. I'm most grateful in advance.

MuttleyLaff:
Man period things?

Bud, I have nothing doing tomorrow I can't shelf.
Should I go have a manicure and pedicure done.
Have my finger nails done up, my toe nails painted and have myself tart up.
Which swanky restaurant you have in mind?
#NaDemDeyRushUs things

You booked late. Must be all that tarting you thinking about doing. Wonder what for.

I'm at Enish tomorrow avo. You may pay for my Gulder. I'm planning 2 but doubt I would get that far since I'm light weight lately. You may fork out for my pounced yam and efo riro though so it's worth your while. Lunch is at 4pm.

Shelumiel:
I do not know why you keep fooling yourself . But continue ...one day, you will know if there really is a God .

I don't know why you're so concerned about me. Must be love! Wanna show that love with some money please? What you doing tomorrow evening?

Shelumiel:
I seriously do not understand why people would want to pray naked .

How about, "to reduce the barriers the Holy Spirit encounters as it attempts to enter one"? One must help God help oneself na. Though, if God is tempted by the sight of naked flesh, one should wonder at the limitations and almightiness of that God, I would have thought.

Thank you Rilwayne. You saved me from having to bother.

The same process applies when Christians receive communion. It is not so much that the wine and wafer turn into the blood and flesh of Christ, but a process symbolising the acceptance of the teachings imparted by the numerous sermons one hears that are meant to make people better human beings.

Hey, hard, oh but for the grace of ....... go you. Or perhaps deep in my heart I might still be holding grudges. Sad me!

People who have no devil to stone or already know it all should have compassion for those struggling at the lower rungs of existence (except for the fools who literally believe the devil is waiting in Mecca to be stoned, of course, and the cannibals!)

Rilwayne001:
What most of you fools don't know is that this act of stoning the devil is not really meant to mean that devil is tied down at that particular place and people start stoning at it, rather it is parts of rite which anyone going for Hajj is obligated to do. It has historical background of which the significance hails from Prophet Ibraheem when the devil appeared to him three times. At each of the appearances, Angel Jibril told Prophet Ibrahim to pelt the devil. Thus, the basis of the significance of the ritual.
All three pillars represent the devil: the first and largest represents his temptation of Abraham against sacrificing Ishmael (Ismāʿīl); the second represents the temptation of Abraham's wife hājar induce her to stop him; the third represents his temptation of Ishmael to avoid being sacrificed. He was rebuked each time, and the throwing of the stones symbolizes those rebukes. It serves as nothing but rememberance of how the faithful men of the past showed faith in God just so we can learn from them too.
The stoning of the pillars also represents the repudiation of man's self and the act of casting aside one's low desires and wishes.

All these you fools don't ever bother to know, and you come shouting logic on what you have no iota of understanding. Where's the logic in the nonsense you posted now? If you don't know something, isn't it better to try to know instead of coming up with illogical assumptions?
See, you cant apply your understanding of Christianity and Bible to the Islam, the two are totally different.

obi58:
Exactly my point, why can't the government develop the cooperatives idea by providing education, exposure and. Finance?

Is there any special condition to forming a cooperative that precludes these set of Nigerians? Instead of giving one seller 10k and pat yourself on the back, why not encourage this same person to form a team with other sellers and thus access 100k each? There is something known as the multiplier effect bro. Basic economics

The government? You mean you and I, right? If you do, then the answer is that we actually do. But trust us to screw it up.

A government led initiative to form a cooperative for cassava growers was initiated in my home town. Those who joined had to own 4 acres of land to grow cassava, pay 1000 naira registration fee and 50 naira for meeting minutes every meeting with other fees added on as time went by. In return, a loan of 250k would be given, with a guarantee purchase of the cassava. Except when I attended a meeting, of the 100 or so other people attending, only about 15 did I know who were farmers, and less than half looked like they'd ever step foot on a farm.

Now, I grew cassava on approximately 2 plots, 200*100metres², of land. My land, not being the best for it means I shouldn't imagine harvesting in a year, which the loan was for, and better wait 2 years for a decent sized yield. In which time, apart from planting, which includes preparing the land, I would clear weeds at least 3 times at 4000naira a pop.

When I eventually harvested, I was offered 15k for my cassava. Which at 6 plots an acre means I'd get 45k for an acre and 4 times that for 4. Now you do the maths. Wouldn't I have been unable to pay back the 250k, plus interest, plus cost of growing the cassava? It's why the coop was called "gbe omu le lanta" (place your tits on a lantern), to denote the worrying you'd have to do in order to pay back the money! When I pointed this out to people, I was kindly told to take my Oyinbo head back to where I'd been deported from because it seems, "you don't know how things are done here". They all thought I'd have to have been deported if being a farmer back in what could best be described as "a village", was what I'd decided to go home and do. And I didn't disabuse them of their thinking though the real reason was to spend time with my father.

On further investigation, I found out that most of the people applying for the loan had no land to plant on and were being offered land to register for a fee of up to 20% of the eventual loan. They were told to do whatever they wanted with it and pay it back later, and my people, seeing a 'good thing', applied in droves. Except, after they'd paid the upfront fee for registering the fake land, and the 1000 naira and so many meeting minute and other fees (over 7500 naira in total per person in the end), the 250k did not materialise. The scheme got aborted because the government agency in charge of disbursing the money got whiff of the corrupt practises that had soiled the entire process.

It turned out the same scheme had been offered to maize growers, pig farmers, fish breeders and so on, and was a repeat of a similar scheme from 7 years prior where people who had borrowed the money ( it had materialised then) were unable to pay and ran away from town and those who did pay back had burnt tits.

See, we talk about corruption, but it wasn't the government scamming my people. We, the people, were the ones scamming ourselves! And until we learn to do things better amongst ourselves, cooperatively, with no underlying selfish motives, the next best thing is to rely on individual enterprise and self interest, give you 10k, call it a loan, and hope you'd pay it back in promise for more.

Better would be to spend all that money on providing electricity, of course. But we've done that so many times over in the past and are still living in the dark!