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oridavid:
OK no problem. Thank you for your time so far.

So, I would imagine that you think God has two separate wills - one for Adam and one for the other man you mentioned. That's fine.

I can understand why you think that way and I really do not want to try to change it.

Actually I think the writers of the story had separate intentions, one for themselves and the other for the outsiders who read their book. The first creation story is for them, while the second is for those they enslaved.

The origin of both myths are not even Israelites, and existed long before Abraham, and were used by Egyptians to enslave long before Yahweh was a thing. They too believed they were created in the superior image of their gods, while their slaves were created from inferior mud.

But that might be taking you way far out of your realm, I guess, especially since you think you can change me, at which I can only laugh.

Just know that one must have more knowledge than those whom one wants to enslave. It worked for those who enslaved us, and it continues to work in the creation of almanjeris, who are enslaved in our northern Nigeria.

You can not rule the earth and subdue and multiply and be blessed if you refuse to nourish yourself with fruits of knowledge. Some who ate fruits of knowledge sang Rule Britannia before they got on ships to go rule the earth and subdue and multiply, and were obviously blessed. In their hay day, the sun never set on their empire. And those who didn't know a tree produced fruits of knowledge were their slaves who produced for their blessed masters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhlgZ5Y5d60

omar22:
Schumacher was nowhere until when Ferrari...

Two Championships in a Benetton before he went to Ferrari, is nowhere?

Schumacher won his first Drivers' Championship in 1994. Driving the Benetton B194, which has been called the worst car to have won a Formula One World Championship and was difficult to drive.....

In 1995, Schumacher successfully defended his title with Benetton, which now had the same Renault engine as Williams; according to Motor Sport magazine, Benetton had the better team, while Williams had the superior car.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher

benalvino3:
Are you not the one posting his crap here when we all. Know he has gone nuts?

Don't you like being told he was always nuts when you thought he wasn't nuts and believed him?

isyourboy:
lol using 0.000000000000000000001% of case to argue against the 99.9999999999%. You’ll be alright

Comment after reading the below.

https://www.nairaland.com/8514857/what-women-bring-table-marriage#136739321

And please consider that if women don't bring anything to a relationship with you, you can always marry a man who does bring something into a relationship with you.

sorosoke101:
Have you experienced such before? Whether from family or friends.

Yes I have. And after learning to take responsibility for myself instead of blaming the nagger, I cut them off so they can nag me in absence.

Naggers, I find, nag to cover up their own deficiencies. If they look into their own sad imperfect lives and were honest with themselves, they'd be so too busy nagging themselves and would not have the time to nag others.

That guilt you say you feel? Stop it! If I slap your right cheek and you turn your left cheek and I slap and you turn your right and I slap and slap your left cheek again, you should not feel guilty for slapping me back once, unless you are Jesus Christ or God, who doesn't even allow himself to be slapped once before he brimstone and fires your ass!

advanceDNA:
.she felt remorse?? Can u still see the remorse now?? Or u just choose to deceive yourself like last time?
......baba....you are just a captain save a skirt....

What's amusing is he thinks he can deceive all of us here too, just like he is deceiving himself. lol.

Bemden, you must keep us updated please. We'd like to hear how this plays out in 2, 5, and 10 years time.

oridavid:
If you stopped watching then you’d never get a whole picture of the point I was making. I appreciate that you even tried but I’ll encourage you to watch the whole video, you’ll see it’ll make more sense and you’d be able to form a better argument against my point.

So far, your point don’t stand against mine because I’ve already discussed your point in the video. Kindly watch to the end, please.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzv5KM9Db3c?si=4Ca3zCPuKJfia2I 6

I accepted your reminder, and got to "the tree is sex organ", and can only say you are making stuff up.

Those God told to multiply will and must, procreate! So saying it was not God's agenda can only apply to Adam who was created from mud, and not to God's Image. God never told those he created in his Image not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, so I guess he's telling his Image to go have sex, since he also told them to multiply too, but banned sex for Adam who was told to not eat for in the day that he does eat he will die.

The mistake made by many is in assuming Adam, who was created from mud after God had rested on the sabbath, is the same as the humans God is written to have created in his image on day 6. You then have to do some wuruwuru gymnastics to make the instruction given to them separately seem like instructions given to them together, despite the obvious differences.

British people were also sold this belief that they were Adam, by Rome, and they believed it for like 1500 years. But when their eyes finally opened, they ruled and subdued so much that the sun never set on their empire, and still doesn't, if you consider their empire to be where thier language is currently spoken instead of land they directly rule.

Nigeria will do greater things than they did, when we finally open our eyes and see what we read with our own eyes instead of just believing what we are told.

Sorry, but you can't get any more of my time watching than this.

basilico:
When Tucker was at Fox , he was more or less reliable.

Of course you'd find him reliable. Even while he was lying to you.

We4all:
Over flogged topic! Have you ever heard of the word 'responsibility'? I believe in every home, every one is responsible for something. A man shouldering the financial responsibilities doesn't make him better than the woman who is shouldering her own responsibilities by taking care of the home front and risking her life to birth babies that will inherit his name and give him a bragging right. If women bring nothing to the table, then why don't you just continue to live a solitary lifesyle and leave women alone? Life is not that hard!

I'll tell you what's amazing.

In the very recent ancient days of the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun, men owned farmland, and married lots of women so they can produce the labour to farm it. Selling the produce was however the women's job.

The men will come home from the farm and go drink palmwine, while their wives who often went to farm with them returned home to process the farm produce - turn palm kennels to oil, take the kolanut and cocoa out of the pod, turn the cassava into more profitable garri and fufu, and so on, and sell it. The money, they of course had to give to their husband, but being so industrious, they always had ways of earning more, which most invested in educating their children. Those children they educated, often against the wish of their father's who needed them to labour on their farms, are the ones today taking care of those now old fathers, and building houses in the town.

If it were not for those wonderful mothers, the fathers would be long dead and forgotten.

raumdeuter:
When some people leave the limelight, they start behaving irrationally. Tucker needs medication at this point

He is now conspiracy for hire, If you call him that you have a link between Israel and Fulani herdsmen, Tucker will fly you to his studios

Tucker was always a conspiracist for hire, and a liar.

sonmvayina:
You don't understand anything. I really don't know where to start your education from. How about I start from the meaning of the word "epic" it is a story with a message. I was trying to make people understand the story, before figuring out the message the writer was trying to pass. Of course, it is not an actual story. It is not real history. That I know you and Buda don't know.

You need to understand the story yourself first before you can make others understand the story.

So here's a simple test of your understanding.

On what day were humans both male and female created in God's Image?

And on which day was Adam created from mud?

oridavid:
Thank you.....
I made a video explaining a lot of these things and especially as regards tree of knowledge of good and evil, procreation and so much more.

I'll appreciate it if you watched it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzv5KM9Db3c

I stopped when you got to the tree of knowledge. And I appreciate the mind you bring to this.

First, God did not tell those he created in his image not to eat the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil or they will die if they did. God is specifically written to have said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food".

As for the serpent, I appreciate you understanding that it was Eve using her mind to question what she was told, unlike Adam who was content to do as he was told. I in fact call Eve the second scientist, because after God, she was the second to use her mind to hover over her environment and question what she found.

Got to go hospital now. Might watch the rest if they make me wait.

Kobojunkie:
Why did she do that to herself? Why did she allow herself to bear all of that?

He's a bully. And her religion was, "obey your husband".

Then they arrived in UK and her eyes have opened.

Have you tried putting chains around her legs and tying her to yourself so she can't go see her ex-husband?

Seriously, I think your supposed love is turning your brain to mush, and it indicates a low self esteem in yourself, or you'd be asking us how to stop yourself receiving the abuse she's giving you.

What If The Serpent Was Right

Well, lets look and see, shall we.

4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

And on eating it, Eve did not drop down dead, but
the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

So, no death, yet, at least.

3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died

So, basically, the God's supposed "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die", was like at least 800 years latter, which would make the supposed poisonous fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil a very slow acting poison. And in the meantime while waiting for your surely death you give birth to Seth and Cain and Abel, and populate the entire earth.

Now think. If someone tells you at say 13, that a thing called knowledge will kill you if you eat it, and you eat it anyway, and afterwards give birth to children who will populate an ordinary village in a state and you die at 93 years old, would you call that a bad deal and claim the serpent lied?

But I guess you can't see it this way if you believe God and not humans like you wrote the book you are reading, because if you think it was written by humans, you'd have to ask what their intentions were.

sonmvayina:
The good Lord planted a garden and put the man

All this after God had created so called man in his Image, both male and female created he them, and told them to rule the earth and subdue and multiply and be blessed, and it was good. Then he rested on the seventh day and afterwards created this so called man he then created from mud and put the man in a garden to tend it naked.

Some of us know which of the two creations we'd rather be, I guess.

KingPure:
Now, this man must really think himself smarter than the authorities at CU, an institution that provided her student with different brands and cadre of iPad and Macbook, with equal access to highband wi-fi

You must really think that you're smarter than your shadows.

Point is, how are they going to police me having a sim card phone? Are they planning to look in my bra and pant where I hide it to get past security?

In fact, am I 10 years old?

otipoju:
I believe you. Women no like guys wey dey treat them nicely. Na one weybdey torment their live na him dem dey like even if they tell you them want a good,kind and decent guy...na lie. To them you are boring and boring is unattractive.

Try make you get small choco for head.

I can just about see you beating your woman because you love her.

DelilahMakinde:
What if the 1 million is only payable after the Honeymoon

Then he can keep his money. I'm not that desperate.

LoneSoldier:
Dear esteemed men, what do women actually bring to the table in marriage, because the way I see it men are the ones doing everything even though society deems it that way, I don't think it makes any sense for only one person to be shouldering everything all in the name of "man of the house" this is the main reason men are dieing constantly, the load is much.....

Dear esteemed men share your thoughts.....

I think there's a problem with where you've been looking, and I suggest you look elsewhere and wider. Perhaps start from inside your own mother's home, and come tell us she brought nothing to the family you were brought up in to.

As a point, a man and woman met at work. He was a lawyer and her boss, while she is an accountant. The work had a no married couple policy, so they decided the wife should resign. But when she told her boss, he informed her the company is doing a review, and would likely need accountants more than lawyers, so they reconsidered, and he resigned. The company eventually got rid of half the lawyers it employed.

Since then, like 20 years ago, the wife has been bringing home all the bacon, and the husbands contribution has been providing a roof, which he is able to do because his father has property.

They have 3 children that the man says bother him when he is watching Man U. He does not help them with their school work, nor engage with them much, which his wife has to do when she gets back from work. And when night comes, he wants to fuq, and she, being a Christian who believes its his entitlement, lets him.

They moved to UK last year, because the wife wanted to do her masters, and they now live in a house bought by her mother. She studies and works, while he still sits on his lazy ass watching Man U!

Now tell me she brings nothing to the table in marriage!

What if?

I wish you'd finish what actually is, before "what if".

oridavid:
Some think that it's actual knowledge, implying that the Adams were ignorant, a belief which is unlikely as Adam was taught by God, meaning he'll be the most intelligent of the human race.

Taught by God to tend a tiny garden naked, as opposed to rule the earth and subdue and multiply and be blessed? Not very knowledgeable, I rare say.

They called it the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, so what else could it possibly be?

The text even goes on to emphasis its effect on those who ate it:

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Or would you argue that ignorant people who have not nourished themselves with knowledge can be wise, even if you don't want to agree that it is knowledge that opens eyes?

But I must confess that I am not in the least surprised at this your view. Those in Plato's Cave would not enter, nor would they allow those who would to enter neither

Yet, your eyes will open one day!

basilico:
Budaatum. Your

I take it they sat in the White House and signed an executive order because they can?

Mineisgrace:
I have a small Ox standing fan I bought in 2022. So recently, we got a solar installation.
It was blowing so fast and nice. Few weeks after using it with solar it stopped working.

We asked a maintaince man to help us check it out, he said we are going to buy a Capacitor. I paid and after fixing it the capacito, the fan still didn't work.
He now said we are going to have to change the coil.

So I want to ask people who have changed a coil before, if it's worth it. Hope if they rewire or change the coil, it will work well and not get spoilt quickly?

Please! Man said na "capacito". He change "capacito", the fan no work. Then he says "change coil", and you are considering trusting him and changing coil?

I beg you to come tell us he told you "na your solar installation", and asks you to pay him to change your solar installation.

Alternatively, go look for a more competent maintenance man! Because, even if he is right this time, his previous wrongs show he does not know what he's doing.

That said. You remind me of a doctor I once met. If he behaved like your "maintaince man", I think i might not be alive.

https://www.nairaland.com/4437570/gospel-according-luke/1#72867008

benalvino3:
I KEPT asking ....

You've been responded to, though I know I shouldn't bother.

https://www.nairaland.com/8514478/sowore-vows-not-delete-anti-tinubu#136722717

If you live in zoo you must be an animal.

I am Nigerian, and I am a decent respectful human being. And the Igbos that Yoruba me knows are very decent human beings too who don't live in a zoo.

HeatSeeker:
So you are not married. Interesting...

I wonder how you've come to that conclusion, lol.

Should I introduce you to my husband or wonderful grandchildren so you can correct your assumption?

Dogalmighty17:
I just read the link you posted. We are well and truly f**ked aren't we? Does Dangote have enough products in storage to last till November? Or will we have to rely majorly on imports again.

It seems unscheduled, so he could not have prepared for it with product in storage. Meanwhile, some are praising further disruption by Nupeng, like they don't know any increase in cost due to their demands will only add to price of petrol at the pump.

We Nigerians will learn when it hits our pockets. And if we can't afford it, Dangote's market is way more than Nigeria.

https://businessday.ng/business-economy/article/these-4-african-countries-buy-petrol-from-dangote-refineries/

I must pay for seun to go learn from X so he can stop his reckless spambot deleting my posts!