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motymop:
I will be interested in your getting your reply on this.

Do you agree that all whites benefitted from the slavery of Africans?

No. Before the English came to enslave you they were enslaving themselves, and those slaves did not benefit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Britain

motymop:
We know that rich whites had slaves but indirectly, the general population benefitted from it even though majority of whites didn't own slaves.

This is like saying the general Nigerian population benefit from the looting by politicians. Do you?

motymop:
Should we then judge whites individually or as a group in the example I gave?

Stupid people claim all Nigerians are thieves.

Are you a thief? Is your father a thief?

Should you and your father be jailed because some other Nigerian stole something?

tunde1200:
See how people are supporting bad move all because of hates you have for Muslims.

Are all Israeli Christians?

Not even all Palestinians are Muslims.

motymop:
Lol...this is funny, you literally just jumped into conclusion.

I didn't see even share any experience but you have literally created one in your head.

but i like the way you kind of quickly said my expereince differs from yours, it makes it seems like you kiss their asses, even if they say some subtle racial stuff to you, you just laugh it over and let it slide.

So, the following was not you sharing your experience, and you were just making crap up?

motymop:
Lol..this is different.

A white might be friendly with you but still sees you beneath him and Take you like a child.

Do not forget that race theory is a real thing among white people.

These ideas are what form the average white man .ideology

You can go to any white country and try to live among the white people, you will see their hostility towards you, even the nicest white man can change once he is in the group of other white men.

Kind of makes it pointless reading your opinion then don't you think, since its not based on your experience or any knowledge you might have.

So, we'll deprive your child of an education if you don't pay tax?

Lets hope you got parents who care more than starve.

He can come enforce his will from the grave.

Basilico, has USAID stopped paying you to install solar panels?

HEAVEN4444:
investments don't pay that much. You want to sit down and be waiting for rent from a tenant ? Or be waiting for stock dividend payout ? 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 CASH IS KING 👑

This is just ignorant, and Dangote and Musk would likely disagree with you.

Do you not know you can invest in a factory that produces something you can sell for profit instead of just being a rent seeker?

motymop:
Lol..this is different.

A white might be friendly with you but still sees you beneath him and Take you like a child.

Do not forget that race theory is a real thing among white people.

These ideas are what form the average white man .ideology

You can go to any white country and try to live among the white people, you will see their hostility towards you, even the nicest white man can change once he is in the group of other white men.

Having lived amongst white people for about 80% of my life, I can safely say my experience differs to yours, and wonder what it is you do that makes white people treat you the way you claim they do.

In fact, please tell us the white people you've encountered who treat you with hostility and beneath them.

HEAVEN4444:
you get a job in naija. Problem solved. I don't see how you can be truly happy for a man who considers you an inferior

No one considers me inferior, and those who do are no different to ignorant people who think I'm in Oshodi. Their opinion of me is irrelevant because they know not of what they speak. And if they voice such ignorance, I'd just sack their ignorant asses because voicing such opinions is contrary to their terms of employment, which would include adherence to the Equalities Act 2010, which I'd ask you to go look up so you are better informed.

HEAVEN4444:
working for a white man is always a terrible experience unless you are a sycophant

Aha! Now you reveal your thinking.

I wonder how you'd think the white people who worked for me would have felt. Or where they sycophants too?

HEAVEN4444:
if pound sterling and naira are on same level your UK job is now useless

How is my UK job now useless, unless I get a job in Nigeria that pays the equivalent?

Would I be eating free air in Nigeria or what?

And do you really think a job is only about the pay and nothing else?

HEAVEN4444:
I have been there. Great place if you have a million pounds. Terrible place if you have to work 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Depends what your work is. If you are earning enough to save £25k a year, the money alone should make the place great for you.

P.s. I do not earn a quarter of a million a year and I did work, but perhaps it being my homeland makes our experiences differ.

HEAVEN4444:
it's not about the value of the money. Everything is not about money. A house is security and rest of mind by selling it and Japa you have murdered peace

It is your opinion that selling a house in Nigeria is murdering peace. Most who have stepped foot in Mutala Airport and landed in UK will not agree with you, and I'm certain you will not agree with yourself once you land here, legally.

Do let me know when you arrive so we can welcome you, and hear what you think of the place.

HEAVEN4444:
indulging others is why I made the thread . And that your reason for Japa is a huge lie. If the naira went 1 to 1 with the pound today I can guarantee you they would ally return to Nigeria on the next flight smoking 🤣🤣🤣🤣

And leave the job that is paying them pound sterling in UK? You must think we are stupid!

For your information, when Naira was 1 pound in the 80s, people japad. Even when 1 pound was 40kobo before then, we were japaing, which is why some of us were born here way back in the 60s, I'd have you know, and many who returned in the 70s rue their return.

Now, I'm certain you'd like to argue that the pound was never worth less than a Naira, so I'll educate you before you do. The below is the historical rate for the US dollar, but I'm sure you can do the conversion.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Annual-Naira-Dollar-Exchange-Rate-1960-2014-The-Wholesale-Dutch-Auction-System-WDAS_fig1_335869683

HEAVEN4444:
I specifically said those selling properties. Meaning you are a made man. Mafioso. In mafioso they use that term lol. Made man

If you sell a 100 million property in Nigeria, that's a mere £25000 in UK, which is just about enough for a deposit on a mortgage.

Dumb though if you intend to be here illegally for 40 years, since any job you get will likely pay you a lot less that 20k a year, and give you a heart attack from the constant fear of being deported one day.

ahmedio2017:
After 35years of service many Nigerian workers cannot bost of 5 million naira in there account so what's your point

Whereas, after 35 years of working in UK and contributing to a pension might earn you the equivalent of 5 million naira in less that about 3 months, if you were low waged.

HEAVEN4444:
lol forgive the insults. It's all internet bravado. But try to understand that I see where you are coming from and I agree with it BUT you need to indulge me in this game I am playing. It's a game of hypothetical questions. I am asking a hypothetical question and I need a direct answer. I am trying to understand this whole Japa movement from an acquisition point of view. Like am thinking these people sell properties here to go to a country where they can never make up to a million pounds ? Etc etc etc. Am just quantifying and qualifying this whole trend based on potential acquisition after 40 years of working and saving.

You could start by indulging others and refraining from insulting and instead learn.

Most people do not japa because they want to make a million pounds and return to Nigeria. Many japa because they want to educate themselves and better their's and their families life, or just for security and uninterrupted electricity.

And to be honest, most who japa and end up with a million pounds after 40 years would not settle for returning to Nigeria, because the entire world would be open to them. But if they insist on returning to Nigeria after 40 years, their (invested) pension alone will make it more than worth it because their pension pot would have been invested and earnt them much more.

motymop:
Elon is just a representative of the white race and yes, every White person think like he does, they might not be public about it but in private they sure do.

This is like claiming every black person is stupid.

HEAVEN4444:
you are digressing but from the points you have made I deduce you think 1 million pounds is such an obscene amount of money that can never be made through saving or labor. You believe that volume of money can only be made through investments. You see how I summarized your points for you without dancing around like you have been doing ? Straight to the point. You need to learn how to argue intelligently and not pugnaciously

Actually, I believe it is wiser to try to make a million pounds by investing than merely trying to have so much.

By the time you've saved up a tenth of a million, a wise person would invest anyway, if just because they can earn more investing than the interest they'd get from saving.

But please go on with the insults instead of learning, but know I'm not arguing with you. I'm educating you.

HEAVEN4444:
it's that easy to settle legal status ?

With 25k savings per annum? Yes. If legally earned.

HEAVEN4444:
lol you must think banks are mugu. Borrow you money because you have deposit ? This is UK not naija. They want to see your history not your deposit. Especially if you are naija guy

UK banks don't give a fuq whether you are Nigerian or Martian! If you have 25k in the bank they'd see your history as credit worthy, and even if they don't they'd just charge you higher interest.

If you are illegal though, and your business is drug dealing, I can see why they wouldn't lend to you, since you might not want to declare your source of income, and why you'd never save a million pounds or lose it if you did and eventually got caught, since UK is definitely not Nigeria.

HEAVEN4444:
you can get your credit score sorted if you are a legal citizen. What about the millions of Nigerians working under the table in the UK just saving and saving till they get found out and deported ? You see how you are being myopic with your posts

What under the table job do you intend to do and save 25k a year for 40 years?

Wouldn't you be wiser to spend some of that 25 securing your legal status?

HEAVEN4444:
borrow and invest ? You think banks in the UK just borrow every ton dick and harry money ? You will be lucky to get 1000 pounds from them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

With your first 25k saved, banks will be begging you to borrow because that's how banks make money, by lending to those who can pay it back!

Your 25k is good collateral for any lender.

HEAVEN4444:
your post makes no sense.so cuz I was a crazy youth means in future I can't get my act together and become rich ? Wow

Getting your act together will include getting your credit score sorted, if you have a brain at least, and can save 25k a year.

HEAVEN4444:
which is why I am asking the question but you keep ducking. The question is can you save 1 million pounds over a 40 year career in the uk

The answer is no. And you'd be stupid to try when you can borrow and invest.

Your first 25k is a reasonable 10% deposit on a house in some places, and the rental and appreciation value would get you to a million much sooner than saving.

But please ignore me educating you that the wise invest instead of save, and update me after you've saved for 40 years.

HEAVEN4444:
wow you are sounding more and more unintelligent. Listen one of my baby mamas is dealing with this problem right now. Wants to get a mortgage but she can't. Great job and tonnes of money in the bank however when she was younger she destroyed her credit. Was reckless with it. Didn't think it would catch up to her. And so this post of yours is doodoo

Destroyed her credit, so has shown an inability to manage money.

Would you like to explain to me how she will now save a million pounds?

HEAVEN4444:
credit score is based on your repayment history and having your name established in the voters register. Have a great repayment history. Whatever you buy say they give you a credit line in Russel and Bromley shoes on bond street, make sure you pay back on time. Build a great repayment history

You'd have likely done all this if you were saving 25k a year!

HEAVEN4444:
what the heck ? Many people got great jobs but bad credit. Bad repayment history. They are not qualified for mortgages

If you have bad credit you must not have saved anything!

HEAVEN4444:
credit score is not based on your savings. Yet you claim you have lived in the UK

What is credit score based on, please educate me.

HEAVEN4444:
Most immigrants don't have the credit score to get a mortgage.

This is really ignorantly, and can only come from a person who really hasn't been in Murtala Airport!

How the heck can you possibly save £25k per annum and not have the credit score for a mortgage?

Are you dealing drugs and therefore can't show evidence of your income perhaps, or do you just know nothing at all about credit scores?

HEAVEN4444:
ahhh you miss the point, see if you retire at 65 and you have a million pounds saved up, you can travel the world and enjoy yourself for next 20 years. If you don't have anything saved up ? You start calling your children for loan if you want to treat yourself .

If you retire and have investments, you'd continue to be paid long after you retire and died, and your descendant children will continue to benefit!

HEAVEN4444:
you are talking rubbish. Most immigrants don't have the credit score to get a mortgage. Most immigrants in the UK aspire to get council houses. That's as far as 90 percent of them go in the housing ladder so that they can start saving heavily because council rent is manageable than private rent. So all these points you are making reeks of someone who has never crossed muritala Mohammed airport before. Have you ever been on an aeroplane before ?

By the time you save a tenth of a million, you'd definitely have a credit score, and your bank would be calling to offer you investment advice and loans.

Most immigrants in the UK do not aspire to get council houses! They know that unless they have special circumstances they could be waiting up to 10 years, which is why in fact most aspire to get a mortgage and buy a house of their own and pay off in those 10 years.

As for your Murtala Airport, born in Lewisham and lived in UK longer than you've probably lived.

Have you ever been to UK?