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benalvino3:
Na your pal budaatum that was encouraging them to fight, start a war when they know they can't defend themselves.

Dude, stop with the lying. Say, buda bought them weapons to go fight war because buda is General Hamas.

WhizdomXX:
You are smart.

To be sincere, I wouldn't agree with you. I just try to cure myself of ignorance by checking the facts and evidence myself instead of ignorantly believing what I haven't bothered to research so I may know.

bayelsaowei:
You are still quoting Wikipedia and BBC? Aren't they all fake news?

I am rather surprised he hasn't said they are, but he'd then have to claim the wikipedia report of the massacre of the Ijaw people is fake news too. Or perhaps he'd argue they deserved it because they threw the first punch by murdering 12 policemen.

Ibime:
Like I said, partionimg in 1948 did not throw them off their land. Which part of genocide has consequences don't you understand? They fvkd around and found out, you are just bringing the found out phase as evidence.

No be who first throw punch suppose cry the most.

So, you do not see the UN resolution you posted there as the first throw of a punch of the land grab from those who lived there before the resolution?

I can just about hear you justifying the masacre of your own Ijaw people too, because of oil.

Ibime:
Like I said you are ignorant of history

Nigeria has not thrown me off my land and my village, I am just part of Nigeria though I may prefer not to be. Same way the Palestinians were not thrown off their land,

Keep ignoring the evidence while trying to convince yourself you are not the ignorant one here.

The international community considers Israeli settlements to be illegal under international law,[9][10][11][12] but Israel disputes this.[13][14][15][16] In 2024, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found in an advisory opinion that Israel's occupation was illegal and ruled that Israel had "an obligation to cease immediately all new settlement activities and to evacuate all settlers" from the occupied territories.[17] The expansion of settlements often involves the confiscation of Palestinian land and resources, leading to displacement of Palestinian communities and creating a source of tension and conflict. Settlements are often protected by the Israeli military and are frequently flashpoints for violence against Palestinians. Furthermore, the presence of settlements and Jewish-only bypass roads creates a fragmented Palestinian territory, seriously hindering economic development and freedom of movement for Palestinians.[18]

The unauthorized seizure of private Palestinian land was defined by the Civil Administration itself as 'theft.'[197] According to B'Tselem, more than 42 percent of the West Bank are under control of the Israeli settlements, 21 percent of which was seized from private Palestinian owners, much of it in violation of the 1979 Israeli Supreme Court decision.[128]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno

basilico:
Juvenile comparison. Did I indicate that only Israel is targeted. I listed resolutions against Israel compared to the rest of the world combined.
South Africa is part of the rest of the world .

Do you want UN to pass resolutions against Nigeria that is not doing much the UN is against?

Ibime:
Some would simply fall under the Israeli State rather than the Palestinian State, just like I an Ijaw man have my village and my fathers property but fall under the Nigerian State I may not like, and is the same for thousands of tribes in the world when countries were delineated after colonialism.

Its more like Nigeria chasing you off your Ijaw land and giving it to Yoruba me.

Bemeruca would say you should not fight me for stealing your fatherland, because Nigeria is stronger than Ijaw you. And you will accept my theft of you fatherland and claim it is capitalism.

Everyone is not weak accomodating you, and even I can not justify my theft like you are.

Ibime:
And you still continue your ignorance

Like I stated, no Palestinian was to be dispossessed from his land or village under the Partition plan voted at the UN

You can state whatever you want. The facts remain that Israel has been dispossesing Palestinians of land since even before 1948 and have continued dispossesing Palestinians of their land ever since.

Gotocourt:
I don't think so. China manufacturers produce based on customer specification and strictly for export.

Perhaps don't just think so, and consider the facts instead, because my research shows China is the second largest market for both Tesla and Iphone.

The second largest market for Tesla is China, following the United States. While the US accounts for the largest share of Tesla's sales revenue, China represents a significant portion, contributing around 21% of the company's global sales revenue, according to a report on Investing.com. Tesla has a strong presence in China, including a Gigafactory in Shanghai, which produces vehicles for the local market.

Tesla's sales in China have shown a mixed performance recently. While they experienced a year-on-year decline in Q2 2025, with a 11.7% drop in deliveries, they also saw some positive trends with a rise in sales in June after several months of decline.

The second largest market for iPhones is China. While the United States has the highest concentration of Apple stores and is a major market, China's large population and strong iPhone sales place it as the second largest market globally. In 2023, iPhones held a 17.3% market share in China, up from 16.8% in 2022.

In China, iPhone sales have experienced a recent resurgence with an 8% year-on-year increase in the second quarter of 2025

Ibime:
You are ignorant

That is capitalism. Money for hand, back for ground but no land was to be taken from any individual

This is capitalism?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gxwlhFXr8E&pp=ygUaSWFyYWVsIGlsbGVnYWwgc2V0dGxlbWVudCA%3D

Your compatriot Bemeruca would ask me to just back for ground because they are stringer than me, and sounds like, agree to you raping me because you are the man.

Ibime:
You are ignorant

The partition plan voted on in the UN did not provide for the dispossession or forced removal of a single Palestinian from a land they owned

You are rude.

Why is Israel dispossessing and forcing the removal of Palestinians from land they owned.

Heres from 1948

Expulsions and attacks against Palestinians were carried out by the Zionist paramilitaries Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi, which merged to become the Israel Defense Forces after the establishment of Israel part way through the war. The expulsion and flight was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession, and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba.[5] Dozens of massacres targeting Arabs were conducted by Israeli military forces and between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed. Village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning.[6][7] Other sites were subject to Hebraization of Palestinian place names.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

I've already posted recent dispossessions and forced removal of Palestinian from land they owned. You called it a buffer.

benalvino3:
If terrorist are shooting in the midst of civilians, again, those civilians will be collateral damage.

If terrorist are shooting in the midst of civilians, those civilians are murdered by the terrorist that killed them, and that's why we call them terrorists, for terrorising civilians.

If a countries army are shooting in the midst of civilians, they are murderers committing genocide.

basilico:
It would do you a lot of good to understand why UN is super biased against Israel.

Below are some UN resolutions passed against Apartheid South Africa. Were they passed because UN was biased against South Africa or because of what South Africa was doing?

United Nations.
Security Council Resolutions:
1963: Resolution 181: Called for a voluntary arms embargo against South Africa.
1977: Resolution 418: Imposed a mandatory arms embargo on South Africa.
1984: Resolution 556: Endorsed the General Assembly's determination that apartheid was a crime against humanity.
1986: Resolution 591: Strengthened the mandatory arms embargo, making it more comprehensive.
1984: Resolution 554: Declared the new South African constitution (based on apartheid) null and void.

Ournolly:
Automobiles are neither gadgets nor electronics.
What's your point?

At least we've moved on from your "China tesla phones".

Are iphones not gadgets?

Are electronic vehicles not electronics?

Ournolly:
Made in China tesla phones?
Is this even existing.

Read it again please. I never said "China tesla phones".

Tesla manufactures vehicles in China. Specifically, the Model 3 and Model Y are produced at Tesla's Gigafactory in Shanghai.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigafactory_Shanghai

Apple sells more than 220 million iPhones a year and by most estimates, nine in 10 are made in China.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx17361pw1o

Ibime:
We are talking pre 1948, you are bringing evidence post 1967 after winning 2 wars in which they were attacked

The result of wars when attacked is buffer zones for the victor. Same reason we have Kaliningrad in Germany

You are talking pre 1948 after your post October 7 argument has been unaccepted.

You can't just give some land to people because their holy book justified its theft and expect those who currently live there to accept it, especially if after you follow up your 1948 theft by further repeated thefts in the 2000s.

Only thieves would expect me to be okay with you stealing my land for your illegal buffer.

Ibime:
Stop shouting like a teenager.

Insult is the resort of magas when the evidence is not in your support.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Israeli_settlements

bayelsaowei:
i won't do that for you..

I won't even try it.. if you think only Palestinian journalists have died in the ongoing onslaught then suit yourself..

Believe what you want to believe...

The very first thing maga did was introduce a concept called "alternative facts, and they've not stopped peddling them since.

Read the below, Ibime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_Gaza_war

benalvino3:
Dude, stop. Deceiving yourself. If you don't seek peace and you are weak, you will lose everything.

I know you'd never get it at all, and don't expect you to. Just understand I am not you perhaps.

Baxilexi:
She’s a dual citizen, British first and then Nigerian.

Her children can become citizens by virtue of their grandparents, but it’s an uphill task for Kemi to apply for her children.
Neither her nor her husband has a Nigerian birth certificate issued, neither does any of her children.

It is not difficult at all, and definitely not an uphill task.

The Nigerian embassy in UK will literally accept you are Nigerian just because you have a Nigerian parent's name on your UK birth certificate.

Nigeria wants our children to come home and do not put unnecessary barriers in their way, apart from the cost which they know we can afford.

Baxilexi:
Friend, it’s harder than you think.

I doubt Kemi has a certificate of indigeneship.

You can follow up with immigration on this matter.

Certificate of indigeneship from where?

I, like Kemi, was born where she was born, and have dual nationality, and have no "Certificate of indigeneship" from either country. So I don't see why I should ask immigration about something I have experience of.

Its not like she's applying for a job in Nigeria, is she?

raumdeuter:
Where is Hamas? Do you have a location of where they are based that Israel can target? When Hamas is hiding in a school or Hospital shooting rockets then what should Israel do

So, you admit Israel can't fish out Hamas and are bombing Palestinians who may not be Hamas, and that's okay with you?

We have people who reason like you where I live. One black person commits a crime and they ignorantly condemn all black people. We call them racists. I add, ignorant.

benalvino3:
20% of Israel are Palestinian Arabs.

Who was chasing them out? When you start a war, you cause hatred and divide. And the consequences of war is loss of land. Ask Ukraine, they have lost lands. That is true to all wars. Westbank with settlers dispute did not attack Israel because Hamas is not leading the Westbank.

Israelis were chasing them out, and theres enough evidence for this for me to not feel the bother to further educate you.

When you chase me out of my house and occupy it, you have started a war with me because I am not a weakling like you are, and will fight for my property you stole even if you are more powerful than me.

If you are strong Russia and you invade my weak Ukraine, I will fight you, because if I don't you'd convert my Ukraine to your Russia.

That's what weak Britain did when strong Germany tried to invade. They didn't just roll over and capitulate over because of Germany's strength, but "we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be".

Ibime:
All media companies have independent productions and local journalists that shoot for them in Gaza. These ones don't die as much, na Hamas camera phone escorters dey die.

BBC even shot a documentary inside Gaza using a local production company about a child in warzone. Turns out the child was son of a Hamas official

A local production company is not BBC journalists!

The fact the documentary you mentioned did not meet BBC standards is evidence enough they are not BBC journalists!

The child son of Hamas was not a journalist. UK law does not allow BBC to hire kids. And the kid was not even reporting as a journalist, but as a narrator.

gidgiddy:
Everyone knows that Kemi Badenoch is right. Regardless of what the constitution says, if British born Kemi Badenoch tried to get Nigerian citizenship for her Children, not only will her dual citizenship be a stumbling block,

This is not true!

Nigeria does not have an issue with its citizens being dual nationals. That's why we travel to Nigeria on a Nigerian passport and save on visa fees, and return to UK on our British passports, both of which we show at both points of entry.

naptu2:
25 (c) in your screenshot.

You beat me to it, lol.

Baxilexi:
Can someone attach a separate photo of the page of our constitution where it states the above from the presidential aide?

Kemi was not born in Nigeria but inherited citizenship, and from my interpretation she is correct by saying she cannot pass it to her children.

25c in what you posted clearly shows her children are Nigerian since she herself is Nigerian by birth.

In fact, if you are born in UK and are black and have a Nigerian name, the embassy will not argue much about your nationality, as I found from experience. Its like the fact you say you are Nigerian is enough for them to accept you are Nigerian.

onome25:
come I'm not in support of this but , there is money ritual because lots of sudden wealth I've seen makes me believe there is one.
so every one should be very careful out there

Osinbajo, who used to live near me in Obanikoro, was assumed to have come into lots of sudden wealth, and some ignorant illiterates claimed he'd used his wife whom he kept in a cupboard in his bedroom and just called "owo" and money would flow out of her mouth.

I'd ask them how they knew this. Did they go in Osinbajo's bedroom and see money falling from his wife's mouth? They hadn't, and not seeing, they made crap up and believed it.

Is this why Made in China Iphones and Teslas are cheap low quality pioneers?

Kemetian:
She’s not ignorant, brother.

She is lying deliberately to discredit Nigeria.

This is what she does.

But Nigeria is bigger than her. She is inconsequential.

I'm very certain we will let her know how ignorant and inconsequential she is when her party loses more seats at the next election and she's replaced as the Tory leader.