₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
1. Yet, to date, not a peep out of y'all about seeing DEI installed in your native land. At least Kemi has wholly disavowed Nigeria, and so has her mind focused on ensuring the country she has sworn to uphold does not go to the dogs in the end. You, on the other hand, claim both Yorubaland and the UK; however, it seems your particular allegiance is to maintaining the culture and ways of the kingdom, no matter what, while you fight to destroy the culture and laws in the other. 😒😒

Nigeria has other problems I believe must be confronted first, like misogyny and the oppression of women and even our lack of participation in democracy to name but a few, which I am very certain you have seen me address many times on here.

And for your information, DEI was not the first step UK took in addressing the things you refer to as DEI. The suffragettes did not name their fight DEI, and neither did we when we fought against racial discrimination.

Kobojunkie:
2. Wow! Yet, to date, in Yoruba land, you do not become a Nigerian simply by being born there. Color me not shocked! 😒😒😒

And that's Nigeria's law. Fortunately, one is Nigerian just by being born to Nigerian parents and that's good enough for most.

Wike is telling Nigerians that we are not hungry anymore, and that we like our agbado, so Obi should not bother giving us a choice.

Everyone! Agree please.

P.S. I am Obidient, and I love some of Tinubu's policies despite the hardship they have caused. I believe Obi might do more and some of it will create even more hardship because we will suffer to fix our past mistakes and improve our nation..

LordReed:
It was glaring my dear buda. It is seems that ignorance is the primary tool for radicalisation.

It's not glaring to him who thinks he's the only one talking sense. But I guess that's the definition of ignorance.

Kobojunkie:
Speaking of gobbledegook, I notice you have not equally railed against the aristocratic leanings of Yoruba tradition. Why not demand DEI be implemented as part of Yoruba culture?

We hadn't got there yet!

The stupid oba of my town just used caterpillar to bulldose over 100 hectares of farmland of which 10 acres are mine. What he stupidly did is the equivalent of Egypt killing the Nile.

DEI is however not our preferred solution in my part of Yorubaland, as the Yorubas are very reluctant to abandon tradition, and not enough of us are woke enough to demand such changes. What we do do is shorten the reign of our bad kings, and that's an ongoing process.

Do know that the land I was born on is my country. And I do have the right to demand I be treated with dignity which ever land I'm on. But it is not I demanding "their aristocratic system be done away with", but the natives who have experienced the hubris of the aristocrat for centuries. Unless your own view is that I did this, of course.

raumdeuter:
Simple this is what emotional men are struggling to understand

It must be difficult and even impossible for some to understand how a grown man fingering a woman against her will is not rape.

I can understand if they were defending their sons who do that, but if the woman were their daughter would their fathers be unstruggling understanding unemotional men and call it play?

raumdeuter:
The court ruled that Trump did not rape Ms Caroll simple. If that is not satisfactory to you, Go and meet the court

No, dump did not rape Carroll. He just put his dirty fingers in her and grabbed what he wanted, and now has to pay her the initial sum of $5.8m with much more to follow.

LordReed:
You are so desperate to hang on to your ignorance you've taken up lying. Pitiful.

You noticed too, my Lord.

IjeBos:
Maybe you should become Trump's lawyer and reach out to the Federal judge in his case and tell the judge that he was wrong and emotionally wailing and that the jury didn't find Trump raped her.
And then go and tell the appeals court that they were also emotionally wailing and they shouldn't have denied his appeal.
And then go tell the Supreme Court that they are also emotionally wailing and that they shouldn't have denied his appeal as well.

Jesus, you've been at writing the same ido*tic thing for about a week now.
A normal person would have been embarrassed a week ago.
You? You're too emotional to have any shame or feel embarrassment.

And while he's at it, he should order that dump not pay Carroll for what he's been ordered to pay her for!

Kobojunkie:
What process? Any process that invalidates the founding religion of the people without a public referendum is already in violation of the people. But I don't think you care since you would rather have your way right now.

Like the rights of the British people were violated when Rome imposed Christianity on them?

Except the British did not vote for the Romans like states with Sharia elected those who imposed sharia on them

Kobojunkie:
2. Britain has always adopted foreign ideals. WHAT THE Bleep? 😖😖😖

You can WHAT THE Bleep as much as you want or go research how Britain adopted ideas from everywhere they colonised.

Kobojunkie:
3. There was nothing vague about anything I wrote there. One law for all was the goal, but now that is no longer the case in the same Britain, with freedom of speech as well as so many other rights near non-existent.... a real shame.

This is the Tommy Robinson notion of history. In UK there is one law for all. While in the past, there was a law for the plebs and a different law for the titled.

Kobojunkie:
4. DEI has destroyed the UK. It is funny you say "...no Irish," yet over in Ireland, the people are fighting to rid their country of all the DEI nonsense. 😂😂😂

That was the state of things all the way up to the early 80s. And by the late 80s when it was made illegal, employers and renters would still discriminate by colour, until the Equality Act 2010 (your DEI) firmed up the law.

Kobojunkie:
5. What sort of nutjob nonsense is this? What Constitution are you quoting? Are you sure you are OK? The Constitution instead declares every America equal.
Did it now! I wonder how you think they justified some owning 100s of black unequal men.

Please concern yourself with the discussion at hand and stop concerning yourself with my okness or not!

The U.S. Constitution originally accommodated slavery, most notably treating enslaved Black men as "three-fifths of a person" for state representation and taxation. However, following the Civil War, the document was fundamentally transformed by three Reconstruction amendments to explicitly abolish slavery, grant birthright citizenship, and protect the right to vote regardless of race.

All the way up to the very recent, Blacks were still being treated as unequals, but thank the gods for amendments, I'd say, and the fact some fought for change.

Kobojunkie:
6. When combined with the fact that the country now spends so much more on welfare than it brings in, with so much less spent on its Military along with the fact that it is poorer than the state of Mississippi, the poorest State in the U.S., it paints a gloomy third-world-like picture of the UK.

For you it might paint a gloomy picture, but we that live here would rather our tax money be spent on our welfare than on military stuff to go blow up others.

Kobojunkie:
1. You don't seem to be paying attention at all. [/size] Land ownership changes hands over time and families can loose their wealth as time goes on. That wealth shifts into the hands of others by that.

A process that might take centuries at best, if it shifts at all, during which time there aristos is established.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAyJWVRqMKE?si=W8ybtsdo5Rj7f4bR

Kobojunkie:
2. Wrong! All indicators point to the fact that the genesis of the problem dates back to the point where the people began undermining their own constitution/bill of rights, in favor of ideas that were foreign to them.

Britain has alway adopted foreign, from the Romans, the Greeks, the Vikings, India, Africa. It's what we do.

The Bill of Rights of 1689 you mention (note, Britain never had a codified constitution), was the product of agitation to undermine the overhanded powers of the monarch and the ruling class, so they could evolve to a freer society.

Kobojunkie:
Rather, than treat those who suggested the ideas for the treasons they were, they were allowed to remain and ended up destroying it to where it is today.

Your vagueness leaves me to assume you mean the beheading of despot King Charles. Do correct me if wrong.

Kobojunkie:
3. DEI in the UK is not a product of evolution but a result of the undermining of British Constitution; we saw the same nonsense attempted here in the U.S. Fortunately, we have had that rolled back and the government is now clamping down on all those who tried to erode our laws by way of that stewpidity.

Evolution or not, it is DEI that changed the UK society from "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish", to Nigerians now holding leading posts in UK's major parties and Indian Rishii Sunak as former prime minister. But I can fully understand how some might not appreciate the glass ceiling that kept some down is finally broken.

As for USA, their constitution made a black person three-fifths of a white person, which I'm certain most are glad was amended to make us equal. And the battle to awoke people further is not ended yet.

Kobojunkie:
4. I was in the UK as far back as 2010 when DEI was originally passed, and I couldn't wait to get back out of that place.

I take it you mean the Equality Act 2010.

I think your knowledge is limited because you were visiting. You'd have cheered if you'd lived here before it was passed, unless you liked oppression of blacks and minorities.

Kobojunkie:
5. That number represents a decline from the spending in past years
Interesting!

Does that number represent third world country to you? I did after all ask for a comparison with a third world country of your choice.!

Kobojunkie:
8. The question is simple! What aspects of the Sharia framework would you want?

None. Islam is not only about Sharia law, just as Christianity is not only about the ten comnmandments!

One can not eliminate religion from Nigerian governance yet, so I am willing to compromise. Hope we can soon though.

You sit on your lazy asses and refuse to vote, then you complain when fools rule you.

My sympathy is zero!

I celebrated him as another example of the impact of Nigerian professionals in the global medical and scientific community.

Kobojunkie:
1. Do you not believe what keeps happening every day in front of your eyes... the kidnappings and killings happening even right there in Yoruba land and increasing over time? OK! 😒

Kidnapping and killings happening in front of me in my own Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun in Yoruba land has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims, but with idiots in my town and the neighbours in Ilobu killing each other over land. So I guess I hear that more.

Kobojunkie:
2. I don't give a Bleep about or pay attention to those given that those of them who do have caused and continue to cause more deaths than can be ignored. 🤔

So you sweep everyone with your brush of generalisation and condemn all?

Sorry my mind don't work that way.

Kobojunkie:
3. The customary court of appeal is subject to the laws of the land; Sharia isn't. Sharia is literally a legal framework, complete with its own criminal code that does not respect any other criminal codes and law enforcement, including the one established by the Constitution of Nigeria. 😒

This is not true. You can appeal a judgement in a sharia court in Nigeria in the court of appeals

Kobojunkie:
4. Yet, not a single person, even in the state of Kano, remembers ever voting during a public referendum to have Sharia installed in the state. Interesting conclusions you make! 😒

Were they asleep when they elected people who imposed Sharia on them?

Kobojunkie:
5. There were no public referendums in the North on whether to have Sharia or not.

They voted in an election, and elected those who would impose Sharia on them!

Kobojunkie:
6. I should tell you which countries, because doing your own research or actually reading the Islamic books for yourself is beyond you? 😒

What you mean is you lack evidence for your lie.

Noted.

Kobojunkie:
7. You mean like the aspect that discourages the questioning of anything or the part that tells women their witness is equal to half of a man because their mind is deficient... that aspect encourages brain use?

The evolution of those aspects, since most Muslims are not in the dark ages of Afghanistan which most Muslims and people do not support.

Most religions have similar arcane ideologies written into their books. Thankfully most religious people don't adhere to whatever suggests the backwardness.

Kobojunkie:
1.You mentioned you wanted a framework that included aspects from all religions,

Perhaps read it as aspects contributed by all regardless of their religions. I'd not want some forms of Sharia just as I wouldn't want to be ignorant Adam in Eden, and nor do I fear any such nonsense can be imposed on Nigerians.

Kobojunkie:
I loathe the ridiculous storytelling you lot love to engage in. 🙄

Somalia, Sudan, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso, etc, are over 90% Islamists, yet every single day we read of Islamic massacres there daily. The excuse used in Islam to murder other Islamists is referred to as Taqfir, which renders halal all killing of fellow Islamists.
So, exactly what does it matter to this or any other thread that Yoruba's choose to live in peace[/i]V with others when Islamism makes killing them fair game? 🤔

It matters to me and millions of others who do not believe that Muslims are out to Taqfir. You yourself said, "the excuse used in Islam to murder other Islamists", but I'm certain you know Muslims who have no intention of murdering anyone so do not need to fabricate a stupid excuse.

Kobojunkie:
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2. See [i]sections 275 through 279 of the document🤔
The framers of that document intentionally added those clauses to ensure the failure of the system from the beginning. Section 10, the Secular Clause, states that the Government of the Federation or State shall not adopt any religion as the State religion. Yet, in the very same document, you find the same constitution allowing the establishment of Sharia courts, basically enshrining the religion and Sharia, and ultimately the two-tier policing system, aiding in the destruction of the nation. 🤔

Chapter 7. Part 2. Section 280. Allows for the establishment of a Customary Court of Appeal. Is that also to two tier and aid the destruction of the nation, or a recognition of our diversity?

Thankfully, it is still subject to the voters of the state whether they vote for Sharia or Custom imposition or not, and most Muslims in Yoruba land, at least, wouldn't vote for sharia, not to talk of my Ogun and Sango and Osun and Yahweh worshippers.

Kobojunkie:
You do know that the moral framework of Islam allows for your use as a sex slave(to be sold to the next man when no longer needed) or beheading, since you claim to believe in no deity -- you do not qualify as a Christian, Jew, or Zoroastrian who can be offered the choice of Jizya. What aspect of that framework appeals to you? 🤔

Actually, I know no such nonsense. And if I knew and believed this togwash, that Islam allows Muslims to sell me to a man as a sex slave, I wouldn't have elected Muslim Mayor Sadiq Khan as my Mayor! Perhaps tell me in which Muslim countries this is legal so I can be informed.

As to a framework that might appeal to me in any religion or ideology or philosophy, it's the aspect that encourages brain use, as I have no interest in everyone being atheist or Muslim or Christian or whatever in particular so long as they have brains in their heads and use it.

This is exactly how my Obi should gave wisely phrased whatever he said. It makes me want to direct my Obidience to the wiser indomitable Senator Natasha Akpoti-Uduaghan.

I trust some to start calling me Poti.

We live in a country where elected rulers coddle terrorists by engaging them in “peace talks,” whatever that means

Nigeria is not the only country engaging so called terrorists in peace talks, please!

The former oga of terrorists in Syria, Ahmed Hussein al-Sharaa, has been the president of Syria since 2025. Dump had peace talk with him at the White House on 10 November 2025.

And dump is currently sending U.S. Vice President JD Vance to be leading the American delegation in the ongoing, high-stakes peace negotiations with what some call the 'terrorist state' of Iran. Dump tried to eye for an eye despite Iran not eyeing to start with, but he of course has to TACO once he learns his folly.

Any one who knows a little bit of history might consider the difficulty in eradicating terrorists or bandits with an eye for an eye since you can only apply eye to the eye caught and not to the eye you have not yet apprehended.

According to one soldier in Mali.

No one is laughing at Nigerian me wherever in the world I have been. But that might be because I so let my light shine for the glory of my country Nigeria.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqXul0Y8i8?si=BGNGMy5d_rFEaqAb

“Jonathan remains the authentic candidate of the PDP. Or has he told anyone that he is not? No, of course not. He remains our presidential candidate.

My Obidience makes me consider that Ebele Jonathan is the only person who can lead PDP close to a win, but they would need to do a lot of what the Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Nyesom Wike, has proposed first for Ebele to stand a semblance of a chance to win or to even bother standing if he is wise.

Confession! I'm buying this insightful Nyesom.

We continue to dedicate 20% of our annual budget to education.....

Do you already, asked buda. The answer is below.

Then buda asked which other Nigerian States dedicate 20% of their budget to Nigeria.

My next question was, "list the percentage amounts of the budget that each state in Nigeria dedicates to education", but I will list only the top tier so you yourself can go find where each state is.

Please if you bother, do tell where you find my own embarrassing Osun State by asking "what percentage of Osun State budget is dedicated to education?" You'll see we must improve!

I wonder who you mean by Islamists. We have Muslims all over Yoruba land, and the majority know it is our custom to live amongst people who worship other gods without imposing any god on anyone, despite the pronouncements of a few. That said, care to show me where sharia is "literally embedded in the Constitution"?

A framework that incorporates the moral teachings from all our religions can not be sharia.

Kobojunkie:
1. Talking about Nigeria, the same country that Islamists are attempting to turn into a wholly Islamic nation at this point in time?

2. Evolve the current moral framework which elevates Sharia to a status above other religions(it is literally embeded in the Constitution) to a better framework? Any ideas as to what that framework should adopt at this point in time?

Kobojunkie:
If as an athiest, you wish to live under atheistic rule, then by all means, move to one....

We are talking about Nigeria, and no, I do not want Nigeria to be an atheist country so I can live there! Everyone does not need to worship athe for me to dwell amongst them.

I am simply suggesting the we evolve our current moral framework, which involves our religions, and evolve a better framework out if it that works for us.

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, you are wrong! Wealth used to be considered of great merit to society, even to this day, and as explained, Aristocracy included people based on merit and wealth, not just the one.

Dude, please! The aristocracy of Britain was based on land ownership and hereditary. None of the descendants of the first aristocrats and their linage thereafter were selected on merit!

Kobojunkie:
2.When we say a system is evolved, we almost always mean that not only is the current state a better version than its former state, but that all important indeces reflect this very reality.

Actually, when we say a thing has evolved, we simply mean its state has adapted to a changing environment over time. There is no indication the adaptation is good or bad per se, just that it enabled the evolving thing to prolong its existence where it was.

And that's how DEI came about. It evolved out of the previous system that oppressed others. And while I see it as a good thing, you don't seem to, perhaps because, unlike me, you never had to live here pre-DEI.

Kobojunkie:
The UK as it is today, is not only a complete shadow of its old self --- as it resembles a third world economy as it is ---, all indices point to it being a captured state, not the free state it used to be.

Personally, I think you should get on a plane and come live here and see with your own eyes how "third world economy" UK might be.

For anecdote, the UK education budget today is £120b. Choose a third world country and let me know how we compare. Don't forget to calculate per pupil, and population, please.

I'm posting you this so you know I'm not suggesting a country be ruled by any religion.

They might ban atheists like me if I let them..


https://www.nairaland.com/8698113/best-ruling-system-all-countries#139828865

Kobojunkie:
1. You are wrong in your thinking! Every nation is underpinneed by some moral code, and this code can be sourced from various existing sources or cooked up by the individual(s) in charge of drafting the constitution. "Abundance of minds" has never been a requirement for this.

2. No single nation/civilization on the planet has been built thus far by a combination of Islamic, Christian, and traditional ideals. Not one! As a matter of fact, the Islamic political system makes that feat near impossible to achieve.

3. As it stands, the best civilizations on earth to date have been realized through the separation of religious ideals, with Islam producing some of the worst of them. Man has learned through blood and tears that keeping religion separate and contained is the best future for all. There is absolutely no reason to waste more human blood and effort on trying to change that after all that history has taught us, and continues to

4. Christianity refers to the very same religion codified in the Nicene by the Romans.

Kobojunkie:
I didn't say it was the best system. Rather, I explained what it is compared to your claim of it being some sort of DEI nonsense.

And I repeat, the British Aristocracy were not chosen by merit, but by wealth, which is the same as choosing by about DEI, though not quite, as the DEI still needs competence which was not required for the aristocrat.

It was the system that evolved out of the much worst and ancient feudalism that landowners imposed on those they exploited until the rebelled, and which Kemi is benefitting from and denigrading.

The soldiers’ food was okay. There was meat and other things, but he told them to pull them out and make it look like those things were not there,” he alleged.

"Somebody commanded our soldiers"!

Kobojunkie:
1. Wrong! Aristocracy(rule by the best)

Aristocracy does not mean "rule by the best". And selecting them based on their aristos is like DEI based its on diversity, equally, incl

Kobojunkie:
2. It did not fail! Rather, it was eroded by dubious elements both from within and from without. That is why I am for bringing back the death penalty in the case of Treason. DEI has more than proven itself to be a disaster, and it will only continue to get worse.

Actually, it did fail, or at least it is being destroyed by those it disadvantaged who fought for change as DaddyJapan has rightly linked to.

Kobojunkie:
3. You seem more like one who is disconnected from the history of the British state/Empire in this.

I think you might change your mind when you realise that the British Aristocracy were not the best at anything, and often handed their supposed aristos to their slowpoke first borns.

DaddyJapan:
Source: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/leejasper_kemi-badenoch-rose-to-lead-the-conservative-activity-7476250552197263360-QR1-

Good read!

https://leejaspersnr.substack.com/p/kemi-badenoch-diversitys-most-ungrateful

DaddyJapan:
Sadly, there are so many other social climbers who act and think just like her.

She's trying to outfarage Farage.

Thankfully, there are many like us who either don't climb social ladders or not like her, and there's more like us who see her for the despicable she is.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense article! Kemi Badenoch's approach is common sense! DEI is a failed experiment. Successful empires were built and sustained by mostly meritocratic means. Britain has fallen from to levels near that of a third-world country because of the stewpid DEI experiment it has blindly committed itself to.

For your information. Britain was not built on meritocracy, it was built on aristocracy, which is like DEI for the privileged noble class.

And yes, it failed, and it was replaced with the current DEI in an attempt to rebalance the scales, for which I am personally grateful they tried.

And Kemi needs to go to school to learn some history apropo the below so she stops sounding uninformed!

But I damn sure helped create a Britain in which her CV and job application would be read.

Kobojunkie:
That said, Christianity is not a political system that one would imagine a nation could be built upon its doctrines alone. Christianity is wholly a religion. It does not come with a built-in political system on which a nation can be founded. Christianity, like many other religions out there, essentially offers a moral foundation/framework upon which a nation can then be built such as we have in parts of the West.

I'd think all systems are built on the abundance of minds, which devices the "moral foundation/framework", and underpins a nation. And I believe it can be built, with a loosely evolved definition of "a nation", and a combination of Islam and Christianity and our traditions as the "religion out there".

The below is to emphasise what needs overcoming before building commences. And beware we might not be meaning the same thing with the word "Christianity".

https://eu.vvdailypress.com/story/lifestyle/faith/2016/08/26/why-did-gandhi-say-x2018/985856007/

Let's hear this pastor.

budaatum:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1329264432743947&vanity=kbass1101