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raumdeuter:
To enter medical school you have to be the best of the best,

No you don't need to "be the best of the best" to get into medical school. You just need to meet the qualifying criteria. And if your father has clout, he can even pay to have that criteria waved for you.

You would still have to pass exams to qualify as a doctor however, because your father will not be paying for you to pass and qualify as a doctor. And even if he can pay, your incompetence will eventually be discovered and you'd likely be kicked off the course or be struck off after you qualify if you manage to magomago your way that far.

raumdeuter:
There is a minimum requirement to even qualify for training just like in Medical school, Not every student who desires to be a surgeon would be trained

They plan to train only the best of the best

DEI does exactly the same thing!

No one will waste money trying to train a person with all fs in science to become a surgeon!

If they can't pass simple science, no amount of DEI will make them qualify as a surgeon. And lowering the standards to qualify them will only qualify them to become surgeons of the dead that they kill on the surgical table, and they wouldn't last long as surgeons in that case!

benalvino3:
You can train people all you want, but talented and gifted people are gifted people. That is why we have someone like leonel messi

Yeah, ben. Lionel Messi just woke up one day and discovered he was gifted talent. His many years of "intense early training in Argentina, and the elite, specialized development at Barcelona's La Masia academy after overcoming a growth hormone deficiency" had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with his supposed gifted talent.

raumdeuter:
Maybe when you meet a smart Northerner who is even better than you then you will realize there are actual smart Northerners. Some southerners who are not as smart as Northers would start to wonder if its based on quota system.

I don't need to wait until I "meet a Northerner who is even better than you" to "realize there are actual smart Northerners". Nor am I an Ïgnorant southerner who imagines Northerners who are smarter than me are "based on quota system".

My brain does not work that way.

raumdeuter:
According to Ben Carson Affirmative action hurts the very people it’s supposed to help by promoting negative stereotypes about their competency and professionalism

Affirmative action only "promotes negative stereotypes about their competency and professionalism" to those who refuse to use their own brain. Those who use their own brain do not allow Ben Carson or anyone to promote ideas to them that they don't verify for themselves.

LordReed:
Meanwhile the signs are pointing to Trump's policy gutting the FAA/ATC as being responsible for the overworked ATC that caused the LaGuardia crash. These ones are busy looking for (their skewed sense of) DEI that doesn't exist.

Seun disapproved of my response to this.

https://x.com/BudaAtum/status/2039447384925548605?s=20

raumdeuter:
Just like you cant know which specific Nigerian govt employee from the North was quota hire and which one was a merit hire, You can start wondering at anyone frm the North same for from oil indutry locals

Sorry Raum, but I am far too intelligent to be wondering such nonsense since I know that the Northerner must still qualify to do the job they are hired to do especially where commercial airline flying is concerned.

UK, for one, would not let your unqualified pilot from anywhere fly a plane over London and land at Heathrow or Gatwick, so your airline better plan to stick to Lagos-Abuja or Kano route, until they crash the plane and no one flies in your unqualified pilot airline ever again.

benalvino3:
The difference between someone unqualified and someone qualified is the certification exam. Both can fly a plane; one took his exam last week while the other is scheduled to take his next week.

A person without a pass in the certification exam is not qualified to fly a commercial airline, and no passenger carrying airline would hire a person who has not passed in the certification exam to fly their plane!

It's as illegal as driving a car without passing a driving test, and Anthony Joshua's driver who I hear did not pass a driving test and does not have a driving licence and is being prosecuted springs to mind.

Kayode has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving, reckless and negligent driving, driving without due care, and driving without a valid driver's licence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cew8jxze027o

benalvino3:
Charlie was not racist for saying that; that's all. It is a valid criticism of the program.

Below is Charlie Kirk's statement.

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

All he saw was the colour of the pilots skin, and that is racist!

In fact, do you know what racism is? Define it for me so I know you know, please.

raumdeuter:
Actually United Airline specifically stated they wanted 50% of the new hires to be minorities

https://the-european.eu/story-52588/united-commits-to-50-diversity-at-new-pilot-school-in-effort-to-reshape-airline-training.html

Are you intentionally covering your eyes so you do not see "Plans to train"?

They still must qualify after training, Raum! No airline would just stupidly hire unqualified minorities!

LordReed:
Which airline was selecting subpar pilots because of skin colour?

I'd also like to know, my Lord, so I can avoid them when next I fly, and see how they qualify to fly that plane in any countries airspace.

raumdeuter:
There can be an unqualified pilot if he doesnt meet the strict criteria to get into flight school but was admitted using quotas

That pilot would never ever be flying a commercial passenger carrying plane, Raum, if they don't pass the commercial passenger carrying plane pilot test!

In fact, my airline that hires strict criteria qualified pilots will run adverts that my pilots are better qualified than your unqualified pilot hiring airline, and that will likely put you unqualified pilot hiring airline out of business especially when your unqualified pilot crashes your plane and puts you out of business first because airline passengers value their life and the airline owners don't want to end up in jail for negligence and murder!

Or do you want to argue that unqualified pilots wouldn't crash planes more than qualified ones might?

benalvino3:
You’re mixing up the idea of qualification with simply flying a plane. Sure, anyone can get a plane off the ground with minimal instruction, just like anyone can drive a car with a quick lesson. But being qualified means passing a series of tests and exams to earn certification from the proper authorities.

As I’ve been saying, or as Kirk has said, if the goal is to fill specific spots based on race instead of just any vacancies, they’re automatically leaving out pilots who might actually be more qualified. whose resume is impeccable.

Who the pilots are does not concern insurance companies. Pilots come and go.

Charlie Kirk was not talking about a pilot who just wants to "get a plane off the ground" or "simply flying a plane", but about commercial airline pilots who fly passengers for airlines, for which minimal instruction does not qualify!

Also, no airline on earth will have a "goal is to fill specific spots based on race" instead of proper qualified individuals!

And not understanding how important pilot qualifications are to airlines, and especially their insurers, my tongue is tied because we have an agreement you and I are trying out. But I'd like you to consider the payout if the airline is found to have hired an unqualified DEI to fly a plane that then crashes. Not only would the airline be done for negligence, it would likely be done for murder too, and it's their insurer that will have to pay out, while the airline owners might end up in jail.

The insurer might likely want to claim your unqualified pilot invalidates your insurance, but I'm certain the law would tell the insurer that it should have specified the level of qualification the airline ought to have when they insured it, and should have check before they issued an insurance certificate.

benalvino3:
Anyone can fly a plane with minimal instructions,

Please Ben, anyone can not fly a commercial airline's plane with minimal instructions! You can not even legally drive a car on the roads if your instruction is minimal, and you definitely can not get a driving licence in UK and start driving Uber and carry passengers without further instructions.

You hopefully wouldn't fly a plane of an airline that hires pilots with minimal instructions. And airlines would struggle to get insurance and even passengers if it is known their pilots received only minimal instructions.

Your minimal instruction would at best qualify you as a second pilot, under observation and further training for many years by a very qualified pilot, and that minimal is quite a lot of training indeed.

Please look up the requirements for piloting passengers so we know you know of what you speak.

raumdeuter:
So whats the criteria to register to vote in the UK

The local authority send you a form and you fill it out with your name, and I think they've included National Insurance number now, but every worker has one.

You are asked to state if you qualify to vote or not, and are reminded that you should not vote if you do not qualify. It is a criminal offence to lie, and the assumption is that they will find out.

You must provide id if you go to a polling station to vote. I vote by post, so no id is required.

Below is a list of id that are accepted.

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/voter-id/accepted-forms-photo-id

The following accepted items made me laugh, but know you must show id to get them. And the standard Oyster Travelcard we top up in the shops is not included.

Older Person’s Bus Pass funded by the UK Government
Disabled Person’s Bus Pass funded by the UK Government
60+ London Oyster Photocard funded by Transport for London
Freedom Pass

Do know that I have nothing whatsoever against id to vote. My objection, if any, is dump's weaponisation of it. But personally, if the hunter learns to shoot without missing, just learn to fly without perching and get the id, is my motto.

KobolanderSegun:
It depends on what is God and what attributes are referred to as belonging to God. If God is called the Creator then God Exists.

Obatala, and Brahma (Hinduism), and Ra and Atum (Egypt), and Izanagi and Izanami (Japan), and Gaia (Greece), and Pangu (China) are all gods that were called the creator of the universe.

Would you claim that they all exist or existed?

KobolanderSegun:
If an Unconscious act like the Big Bang created the Universe that Unconscious Act will be called God. If Unconscious Forces Created the Universe those Forces will be called God the Creator.

Unconscious how? Unconscious to whom?

And why call it god or God when you can simply refer to it as the Big Bang that it is?

KobolanderSegun:
Then why would an event that created everything have a small letter ?

I think you should first establish that an event created everything" before claiming it was created by anything. You haven't, so I'm not having it. Sorry.

Scientists do not claim the Big Bang "created everything". They concede that something big must have existed for anything to go bang even though they haven't a clue what that thing might have been. That is however not an excuse to call it God. They are very content saying they do not know.

UzorIyke:
Where else would he drop it "Aso Rock" bah ??
Even the strikes will be coordinated with the nigeria government.

Nigeria government that can not find terrorist will coordinate the dropping of bombs on terrorist?

I love you confidence not!

raumdeuter:
Every birth on US soil is a citizen by default

Not here in UK, sadly, since Maggie changed the law.

Parents must be here legally for the child to qualify. But I have the funny feeling compassion would make us apply that law leniently, as we tend to not deport children.

raumdeuter:
Black or women is not the disqualifying, Its the quota system that guarantee that a certain number

If I tell you that admission into flight school is 90% but we must pick 10 people from Osun, 10 from Gombe, 10 from Abia. What now happens if we have more than 10 people from Abia who score 90, but we only have 6 people who scored 90 from Osun?
That means you have t drop some over 90% from Abia because its pegged at 10 candidates
If you are trying to enforce 10 people from Osun, that will mean you have to pick 4 people who did not get up to 90%

In the future when passengers hear a pilot is from Osun, then they start to wonder, Boy, I hope he's qualified or Are you one of those under 90%?

DEI would make you ask why you have 90% from Abia and only 10% from elsewhere. And it will propel you to address the barriers, which can not include reducing the requirements for admission and final competence because of reasons I have stated.

Most countries will do DEI where women are concerned because it is recognised that barriers that have precluded women have existed for decades and need to be dismantled, and it does not involve lowering standards, but helping them meet the standards if assistance is required.

Here is an example from F1.

They are not making cars slower or anything, just making it possible for women to stand a chance of getting on the grid. Îgnorant people like Kirk would however claim that's how Lewis Hamilton got on the grid.

GracieX3:
I think you are on drugs.

Don't you worry. You'd stop thinking and actually know after you've been here long enough.

raumdeuter:
Your birth certificate is your proof of citizenship because either
1. It shows you were born in the US which automatically makes you a citizen
or
2. It shows one of your biological parent whose name is on your birth certificate is a US citizen which makes you also a citizen.

Similar here in UK I guess, ever since Margaret Thatcher abolished citizenship by birth with the British Nationality Act 1981, which came into force on January 1, 1983, and abolished automatic right of jus soli ("right of soil".

Like in USA, one of your parents must be a British citizen or "settled" in the UK to qualify. And you must provide evidence to prove it.

So, basically, a birth certificate is not sufficient to prove citizenship in UK, because it does not state parental status.

The below is from the copy of the new birth certificate I just got. My original does not however say anything of the sort.

raumdeuter:
Charlie stated that airlines are required to meet a certain quota of certain democraphics, So when they do not have enough of that democraphics, they reduce their cut off and admission criteria.

No reputable airline anywhere will "reduce their cut off and admission criteria" to the extent they hire unqualified pilots to fly their multimillion dollar planes. In fact, I very much doubt such an airline will get insurance cover to fly.

Even you are smart enough, I hope, not to fly on an airline that hires unqualified pilots. And if an unqualified pilot crashes a plane, which is to be expected, that airline will immediately cease to exist, and will have to pay millions in damages too.

But what's worse is how some will react to seeing a black person or woman is going to pilot them. They'd question their qualification, as if being black and or female is disqualifying, and white and male is a qualification.

Below is an example of the idiocy Kirk's rhetoric promotes.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFg4LCaxpa-/?l=1

bayelsaowei:
Is it that this man is ignorant as a president and an adult or just knowingly lying to his uneducated base.

What is this??

🙄

Both.

benalvino3:
Forget identities in the parliament, the UK made the decision.

Yes, In 1540! And the same UK is resisting to abolish it.

Cousin marriage has been legal in the UK since 1540, following a 1,000-year prohibition by the Church, allowing Henry VIII to marry Catherine Howard. Once common, particularly in the 19th-century upper classes, it declined sharply by the 1920s to around 1 in 300 marriages.

raumdeuter:
Your proof of citizenship is your birth cert which you were given at birth ....

I thought it might be. It isn't here in UK because of reasons I've previously stated.

IjeBos:
Yes, you have to get an appointment to bring your proof of citizenship.
So you have to Get proof of Citizenship.
1.) Get your proof of citizenship
-Get an appointment to get one
-Take time off to get one (if you aren't salaried, it will cost you a day's pay)
-Pay to get a duplicate one
2.) Get an appointment to bring in your citizenship proof
3.) Take time off to get the appointment (if you aren't salaried, it will cost you a day's pay)
4.) Pay for one
4.) Wait for the new id. If it doesn't get lost in the mail.

How much time and money would it cost to do all of that?
Again, you seem to have a problem with the details of all of this.

Please, what is a proof of citizenship?

And would I have one if my grandparents were citizens?

raumdeuter:
In the state of Texas, when you request for a ID, you bring your proof of citizenship then they will grant you an ID with a Gold star that shows you are a citizen, then mail it to your house within 1 week

Once your citizenship is verified, you can apply online for change of address, renew expired licenses without having to go to licensing office and you get it within 1-2 weeks

https://www.texas.gov/driver-services/texas-real-id/

I do not think I would necessarily have a "proof of citizenship" even if I was born in Texas. Ijebos, please correct me if I am wrong here.

I just got a new birth certificate here in UK, and it specifically states that it is not proof of identity, much less citizenship, since just about anyone can order a copy of my birth certificate if they have sufficient knowledge of my details.

In fact, I had to go to Scotland Yard to prove I am me the last time I renewed my passport because someone else had acquired one in my name. I had to give finger prints to prove I wasn't that person whose finger prints they already had because that person had been in jail.

raumdeuter:
When you enter a Hospital in Nigeria and see a doctor Adamu and start asking if they dont have a Doctor Uche or a Doctor Ade. That Dr Adamu might have been the best graduating student in Unilag but the hidtorical bias towards Northerners already created doubts, which is what Charlie Kirk was referring to.

Sorry Raum, but Charlie Kirk was not "referring to". He was outrightly promoting an idea he knows to be false!

No reputable airline would place their multimillion dollar plane full of passengers in the hands of an unqualified pilot regardless of race or color or gender, because it's just not economically viable nor sustainable for the airline.

tctrills:
So are you saying that the sacrifice of Christ was unjust to Him or unjust to mankind?

I would say, yes, the crucifixion of Christ was very unjust to him and humankind.

Humans would have benefitted more if they'd not murdered Christ and allowed him to teach some more. Unfortunately, they crucified him and then wrote a story to convince you he died for your sins, the same sins most are convinced they'd still be judged for when they die, which makes his murder a complete waste.

DeepSight:
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You mean the bold metaphorically don't you. I do love chess though.

You do? We should play sometime!

https://m.gameknot.com/stats.pl?budaatum

DeepSight:
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I have NO DOUBT in my mind that he is an atheist. And an amoral one at that.

I am deeply offended by the above.

His spiritual adviser, Paula White, is a Christian, and she is no different to dump!

ono:
Just to chip in that the Church approach issues differently now - standards haven't changed though. I used the word "differently" so TV01 will not be pissed with the word "evolve". I hope I am safe to do this, TV01?

Standards have changed, ono.

No church can today justify killing people they demonise as witches, and no church can justify slavery today neither.

And for your information, Christianity evolved from Judaism, and Yahweh evolved from brimstone and fire to meek and gentle Jesus. It would have died off if it hadn't.

DeepSight:
+ I never said "Christians are bound by the law" for example. I dont think Christians are bound by all of the law.

I put it to you that no human being on this earth is "bound" by any laws whatsoever.

Most countries have laws against stealing and murdering others or even beating wives, but those laws do not bind anyone such that they can not steal or murder or beat their wives or not if they so wish. The law will simply hold them to account if they do, which is not the same as binding, by which I presume you mean, "restrict so one can not break the law if one wants to".

I am of course being pedantic, note. And currently reading J. M. Kelly's A Short History of Western Legal Theory.