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ijebosb:
As I was saying, bullies generally need a group to do so, alone....

And one has to 'play' along with the bullies for their bullying to be effective.

It's after all not like we are in some play school ground where they can take my pencil or deprive me of my school dinner.

ijebosb:
Maybe, but I think the shock gets you first and then trying to unravel it.
Anyhow, read through part of the chat of the day, I guess my "convo" with him after she left, left him sufficiently concerned that I wasn't just some bum. As I was taking the train to the airport, he met me on the platform, asked for my card and tried to be nice and strike up a convo.

See what I mean by how one holds one's self? You showed him you are not just "shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops" and his attitude changed lol. It doesn't stop the initial racism, mind, but it sure does dictate the future.

Yes, the shock does get you first, and sometimes you don't unravel it till much later and often after it's too late to act. But once one has experience and obtains the privilege of a racism radar it becomes much quicker to spot.

I dress down much, so it's very easy for those who judge by looks to mischaracterise me and think they can talk to me anyhow, especially when I'm in places where blacks are not often seen. I love watching the shock on faces as soon as I open my mouth. It's why I understand that we are not all treated the same way since we don't all have the same privileges.

In fact, this reminds me of shopping. I'd go in a shop that sells expensive stuff and the shop keepers look at you like there's no way you can afford it. Then you bring out American Express and its all "yes ma, whatever you want sir".

Was in Rome once buying rings for my partner and I and they almost wouldn't let us in the shop. But by the end we were using their shop floor as a dance stage and even asked them to play our music. Never did buy the rings from them in the end, which must have pissed them off.

Saying that, I get the same in Nigeria. Some stupid idiot talks trash until they realise they are not on your level and then their attitude changes. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending how one sees it, status is not shown on Nairaland, so stupid idiots don't know their place. Thankfully, one can put them in their place by just not noticing them just as one wouldn't in real life.

ijebosb:
Edit: Added the Whatsapp of the Chat .....

Please do not ever post such things again.

It is not necessary for you to post such personal evidence here as no reasonable person would think you made it up, and the stupid idiots who have admitted their sole reason for being here is to troll would only troll you with it.

Also, have you noticed how the winds have gone out of their sails now we are not paying them the attention they crave? They so hate not being the centre of one's attention.

ijebosb:
I'm not sure how it works or what his job was.

The above is the key point. If you knew how it worked, you'd have likely told him where to go.

I've never been to USA, and don't particularly like the culture of the place. It's economically first world over there, but some things are just so backward. I lived and worked in Mexico City for a year and still never bothered. I'm scared someone might talk nonsense to me then shoot me when I talk back, which is not a fear I'd have in UK because no one has the right to carry. You just need to note how no one is trying to take over anyone's womb in UK like some are there to understand how far back USA is going.

If it were up to me, 'God bless America' would become 'God save America', from its self.

ijebosb:
I swear the universe or maybe Twitter is keylogging me.
I saw these two twitter posts this AM.

1.) https://www.theroot.com/evilest-white-woman-on-earth-the-criminal-injustice-1826220942
2.) A Republican TPUSA ambassador proud of her daughter saying the N word.

This is America

That is indeed America, where some are afraid of being replaced. It's probably because they are afraid of reaping the results of having replaced others themselves.

People in America might not understand why the likes of Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon end up in jail so much. It's because, unlike America, we learn from our past and from that of other nations, and we generally stand up for our neighbours regardless of race or gender or tribe etc.

I'd say London is like the crown jewel of cities and the last place to expect a brown/black foreigner to be mayor in. Yet here we are with Muslim Sadiq Khan as Mayor, and Hindu Sadiq Khan as Prime Minister of UK, and Muslim Humza Yousaf as First Minister of Scotland, and Zambia born Vaughan Gething as First Minister of Wales. And none of them are white.

This, is indeed Great Britain. And all that's needed is a Muslim from Northern Nigeria to lead in Northern Ireland so I'd be able to say 'This is United Kingdom' too.

We do not have the legacy of slavery and black oppression that USA has, so any official using the N word will immediately be disofficialised.

It's even a crime to unofficially direct it's use to a person of colour (as some describe us).

ijebosb:
Interesting, the US doesn't have anything similar to that. You're supposed to carry certain documents and they can look up other deets on a database. Outside of that they would write you a ticket and then you could appeal it in court. Learned something new.

When I was in the UK not to long ago on one of my 1 day layovers, I stayed at a hotel near the airport. A friend went to dinner with me and spent the night. The next AM I walked her to the train to head to work. She was obviously dressed up, suit etc for her corporate finance gig. Me, I was in shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops (I just got out of bed and walking her was a last minute decision). The train arrived and as I waiting to enter (was going to ride with her), the guy on the platform (not sure what he's called), walked over, told me the train was full and to step off. Just me. It wasn't, it was just taking time as someone was blocking the entrance. I asked why, he wouldn't answer and the train took off. My friend stepped off before then. He started walking off and I confronted him. I was so confused. The train was clearly not full. Felt like there was something I was missing. I had stern words for him, pisssed my friend was now late for work, and he looked over at her and asked why she was with me. And then it all made sense. She was this white woman, cleary doing well for herself by the way she was dressed with her LV purse, and I was this black guy in shorts and a t-shirt at 8 am of a workday on a platform with other people who looked and dressed similar to her. She saw the look in my eyes and calmed me down. She was confused and taken aback as well. We waited for the train and I took off. She was late and I was embarrassed. I went and found him when the train took off to exact a toll, we had a round of terse conversation. I got his info and then realized the pernicious thing about racism. Though, to me it was clear what he had done. He could stand behind the fact that he believed the train was full and needed to let the train move on to get to it's destination on time. I was in London for a about 10 more hours. So that was that.

What! Never ever heard of this before!

I guess you haven't lived here and so don't know how things work (that's a dig ), though your girlfriend should have known if she lived here.

If a platform staff on any train tells anyone here to step off because the train was full, they be asked how they can be on the train if it were full!

Regardless, platform staff don't have any such authority, and the fact he asked why your girlfriend was with you is enough to get him sacked or at least reprimanded, if you had had the time to follow through that is. I can just imagine him saying that to a Jamaican or a Brit Black. He'd likely get punched in the face too.

Racism is often not overt. But we Brits have our Racism Radars with which we detect it these days, and any whiff of it is opposed.

Aemmyjah:
Does someone not equally need to build in us a sense of intelligence, consciousness, language

See how shortsighted you are

Whatever built a sense of intelligence, consciousness, language in you most definitely did a sloppy job.

The question was about software in an AI machine.

An AI machine is a computer. You take the software that has been written and been placed on a physical medium to transport it, and you put it into the AI machine.

But I guess the word "physical" is your problem here since you all seem to only use your naked senses to reason.

bemeruca:
I really changed and talked sense into you. U don't need you to thank me. Just don't be the professional victim you once was.

Would love to tell you to stop being the stupid idiot you always have been but it would be a waste of time.

ijebosb:
I don't fully understand what a "producer" is. But, I am sorry to hear your experiences. Sounds similar to my experiences in the US.
But as you said, those experiences gave you perspective and privilege.
Like you, I'm equally privileged that I have the ability manipulate people's racism. But I am also understand I am uniquely situated to do such.

Not everyone is as intelligent as you or has the strength and know-how that it would take to cross oceans to reside in another country or even just move from a small town. You aren't in the mainstream and thus there are a lot of people who don't know nor have the ability to pull the levels of power needed to properly respond to racism.

A producer is a document police give you to go produce your documents at a station. And you did ask what I would do, which does depend on my knowledge and my ability and my status in life.

I wasn't always this privileged, as you have seen, but I sure am now. Golly, if a racist bus driver in UK stops me getting on the bus today, I'd probably go stand in front of the bus so it can't move and we'd sort it out when the cops arrive. But to be honest with you, I doubt any bus driver would be so stupid as to not let a black person on a bus in UK just because of the colour of their skin.

We don't have the situation you described where everyone in a small town including the police, would be so blatantly racist because we've had our Black Lives Matter decades ago and people have learnt not to be so racist. These days, other white folks on the bus and at the bus stop would raise a stink if it happened.

Obrigardo:
The republiqan maga party is not a serious party.
Just watching the decaying posture of majorie three toes Greene. This result is going to shatter her apart. She's been quite the enemy of the state in her rsbn interviews. Now watch how this is going to yank her apart. The house has stopped her every way she has went and the only time she ever did something useful was voting against her own speaker. She has lost so much to Congress I just can't count. Maga Cultists are true idiots

With 7 months to election. I fear she'll become the worst, the fall will be worse than lauren bobbert's.

Pity. I was looking forward to watching MTG try to prosecute Mayorkas in the Senate.

bemeruca:
You also talked to me about not calling you names ....

You can call me whatever you want as you do, and it would be water off the back of a duck, because as far as I am concerned you just are an irrelevant insignificant stupid toerag.

What you wouldn't get is me bothering to let you waste my time for days on end, which is what I wish Ijebos wouldn't let you do to him.

ijebosb:
Everything you said relies on the fact that institutional racism doesn't exist. How do you get justice when 1.) You can't afford a lawyer(your poor after all) and even if you could, the lawyers in your area are scared to take the case. 2.) the whole Police Department is racist. 3.) The Justices on the courts are racist 4.) And the appeals court decides not to take appeals from black people? Welcome to small town living. Where does this justice come from?

Now all those things I've mentioned, I didn't make up. Those are situations that have happened and most of them I've posted in this thread. You're speaking from a place of privilege which allows you to believe that you can affect how a racist person treats you. And it's your fault if you're the victim of racism. And honestly I find that highly offensive.

See my response to the stupid idiot, and here's another link about it.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/2330#102302250

I disagree with your gaslighting that "it's your fault if you're the victim of racism", since I never said any such thing. But yes, I do indeed speak "from a place of privilege".

35-40 years ago, I was constantly stopped just for driving a Ford Gti, which was considered to be a high performance car that I was assumed to be too young (and black) to drive. One week alone I had 3 producers to present my insurance and license at a police station within 14 days so I did. I gave the cop the first one and he registered my documents, then I gave him the second and he registered my documents again, and then I gave him the third one, and even he was shocked I had three in such a short time, and he was pissed I hadn't given him all 3 in one go. It was the last producer I ever had.

I was also once stopped for speeding though I wasn't speeding. It was an underpass on my way home from uni that I knew had cameras and I wasn't stupid. Cops checked my license and asked where I was from, so I gave my address, and was then asked where my parents were from "with a name like that", to wit I asked what my parents had to do with them stopping me. They then asked if they could search my car, and on finding nothing they said my tire had a gash on the side and was therefore defective and they gave me a fine with points on my license and 2 weeks to contest it if I would. So I wrote to the court what I've stated above, and that I'd brushed against the kerb on my way home and my tire fixer was just down the road where I was going to get my tire fixed as I didn't want to stop in the middle of a highway.

At court, the judge asked me if I was guilty or not, and I said I wasn't, so he asked the police to present their case and the lawyer for the police said the policeman who stopped me had refused to appear in court to testify, so the case was thrown out. Numerous times after that police would follow me for a while and eventually drive off because when they radio in to check my details they discover I've had producers and I'm not someone they can easily push over, I eventually found.

If I live in a small town where everyone is racist, then I would seriously need to check my head and ask why that's the town I choose to live and work in when I can very easily move my black ass elsewhere. But these days, one can sue for loss of earnings and mental health distress and for one's legal fees too, and I'm sure I can find an out of town lawyer to help me sue if I have evidence to prove the bus driver did not let me on the bus because of the colour of my skin, which I would have these days because the bus would likely have it's own CCTV showing the bus driver being racist, and the incentive for the lawyer is that he can sue for cost so it costs me nothing if I win.

That racist cretin of 35 years ago outsmarted me and I learnt from it and have since placed myself in the privileged position I am now in such that never again ever since, you see. In fact, it's like your "you can't know a place if you haven't lived there", same as I wouldn't know what to do if I hadn't had the experience I had that taught me what to do.

Fuq with me then, shame on you, but I'd be ashamed if I'm fuq with now.

bemeruca:
Isn't it funny how a couple of years ago I was telling you to keep your victim mentality aside that racism in the UK is almost none existent. It is only how you treat the few encounters will determine how successful they are. Also, you complained how you could not keep your job because of racism and you have to quit, sometimes they take the side of the racist.

You maths is racist as usual.

Here's a link to remind your stupid self.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/2331#102308219

bobestman:
He has 3 monickers but I only know the first one. But in one day I identified the other 2 monickers. How? Cos of his negative and evil aura. Even if he has 10 monikers I can identify all. You know a devil by his fruits. The irony of it all is that he call ppl devil why he is the real devil. He is a confirmed kid. You know it by his behavior

He definitely does argue and behave like a kid.

Can you believe he claims to be a lawyer, as if it's possible Nigeria can be that bad that his sort would qualify.

https://www.nairaland.com/7824040/dont-deceived-lot-christians-today#125509509

ijebosb:
Not necessarily true. That's where the dangerousness of institutional racism comes in play.

Consider this example.
You live in the middle of nowhere in a small town. And the only way to get to work is ride a bus that comes 1x a day. The same person drives the bus. You don't make enough to buy a car, no neighbors who can take you and it's too far to walk.
The bus driver is racist and won't let you on the bus. The person in the town is also racist so you have noone to complain to. You need to ride the bus to get to work to make money. What could your response possibly be that would mitigate the success in their Racism?

How is it possible that I'd have no one to complain to when I can simply Twitter and Snapchat and Facebook and Youtube etc, and write to my local councillor and my Member of Parliament and the local news rag to show the whole world the racist bus driver letting the white folks on the bus and not me?

I live in Blighty where the bus driver's racism can not stop me getting on the bus because I can very easily get him sacked so he doesn't drive the bus no more. And if he isn't sacked, I can sue the racist person in town and the bus company itself and cost them all money they'd rather not spend. The bus driver would after all have had to sign the mandatory equality policy of the bus company when he was hired, so why the heck would he be that stupid unless he intends to not be driving the bus the very next day?

Here in UK, even the white folks he let on the bus would protest on my behalf, and I bet I can get my white friends in USA to protest on my behalf too if my own black protests are not enough, because everyone in town and at the bus stop can not all be racist, and even if that don't work I'm certain I can very easily NAACP and ACLU his racist ass and just Rosa Park the bus company too.

There's laws you see, and the colour of my skin does not bar me from using the courts and my brain, and that's what I mean by "how I hold myself".

As Fela would say, gbami leti kín di olowo please.

Obrigardo:
If your day isn't going great and you need a good laugh, please check out this tweet's replies and laugh your stomach out 😂

He's been a right laugh.
https://twitter.com/MikeCrispiNJ/status/1772764447901102411

Time to start trading it's volatility, though I do plan to just watch.

ijebosb:
Disagree. Biden aggressively confronted Trump.

I happen to think Biden sat in his bunker and refused to go low with dump, which I appreciated a lot. But that's a matter of opinion I suppose, so we'd have to agree to differ. He isn't bunkering now though, and that bothers me somewhat.

I just hope Biden refuses to debate him this time round, as the pig would only revel in the publicity.

ijebosb:
For clarification, what do you mean by "racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way"? What is this certain way?

Read my response to your bag grabbers.

People may be racist to you but your response determines their success.

PotatoSalad:
Devaluate the naira.
Use CBN tactics to make the Naira appreciate back to original rate.
Increase taxes.

Prices of goods remain high. Why?
Cos the naira appreciation isn't backed by production.
If dem like make dollar go down to 500, prices of goods will remain the same. When CBN's abracadabra runs out, the real rate will show itself

You'd find this supportive, I think.

https://www.nairaland.com/8064253/nigeria-burns-foreign-reserves-support

ValarDoharis:
Life is too short to waste ot away learning forever. We don't need to reinvent the wheel, we makes laws, we should follow them strictly.

If we say rigging is survival of the fittest then we will never get it right!

Life is only short for the ignorants who would not learn because their ignorance kills them.

While we might not need to invent the wheel, we still need to learn the history of the wheel, and how the wheel evolved into the wheel that exists today, and how to make our own wheel and how and what to use our wheel for, and if we don't start learning now and just continue claiming the winner is the fittest rigger, then our suffer head will indeed be long though our lifes would be brutal and painful and short.

I mean, just see me since Shagari, and I bet they were yelling rigged in the first general election in Nigeria in 1923 when the Nigerian National Democratic Party (NNDP) won three of the four elected seats in the Legislative Council, and you might understand how long we have been mediocre at following our own laws.

Golly, we haven't even learnt to obediently follow our simple traffic rules and laws yet, so that should show you how much more learning we still need to do.

Difrent:
Na igbos dey scream upandan say people dey suffer like a rabid dog

So, it's Igbos talking Yoruba saying ebi n'pa wà, according to you, when I see my own Yoruba people in my own Osun State crying upandan?

O Lords Gods. Please get off your asses and exist to heal us Nigerians of our ignorant tribalism which is our greatest problem and the barrier to our success and the reason we are starving. Insha'Allah Àṣẹ Amen.

Meteng:
She seems like a good person with a good heart. Only circumstances. I like her

You have a good heart and seem like a good person. I like you.


Thank you Gerrard59 for the read.

ValarDoharis:
It is what it is!

I've been hearing this same rigged nonsense since the election of Shagari, and to me it sounds like the idle wailing of the losers. (And yes, rigging happens a lot in our elections!)

Chinua Achebe wrote that, "the hunter has learnt to shoot without missing, so the bird must learn to fly without perching", instead of wailing that the hunter shoots too well.

My Awolowo lost then, and my Obi lost now, and if he continues claiming he lost because others rigged, he will never ever win like my Awolowo never won.

ValarDoharis:
Is there a reason why you're so lenient in your expectations of this govt?

We've practised democracy for less than 30 years, so I don't expect us to be perfect at it yet because I am aware how little we know and how mediocre we can be and how much more we need to learn to be competent at choosing who leads us.

This government, is a government of we the people by we the people. We conducted an election amongst ourselves to choose from amongst us who shall rule us, and even if we chose by rigging, it just shows how incompetent we are.

Now, if you think I am lenient on us, it's because I am being considerate of us. When we have failed a bit more and chosen (or rigged) into power those who disappoint us a lot more, we would learn to not be mediocre in the conduct of our elections and in our choices.

My hope is that it's well before 2123.

ValarDoharis:
2019 and 2023 elections were rigged by APC using Mahmmud. They did not win the elections

Do you seriously think I am going to waste my time with this again?

ValarDoharis:
So you're celebrating a failed attempt? Why?

Thats celebrating mediocrity!

Why do you so lack understanding? Are you even trying at all or do you just want to show you've quoted buda?

Does the below from my previous which you quoted not suggest to you when I'd start celebrating if celebrating is what I'd do?

"Now, if this government goes just one step further and scraps Youth Service, which is a subsidy of labour for employers, this government would have made my day".
https://www.nairaland.com/8063900/should-obidients-group-banned-fg#129479107

Please quote me if you must but do bother to try to understanding what you read before accusing me of your own mediocrity, because my words are very carefully chosen to spot mediocrity in others so my time is not wasted.

crossbreedwears:
When you've hatred for a particular person, it will be hard to translate whatever the person says because your heart is filled with harted.

What commander - in - chief said he will reorientatate the Nigerian police by a new institution

You don't know who I hate or don't hate, but perhaps your own heart is full of hatred so you can't understand what I meant.

I don't believe the Nigerian Police can be reorientated even by instituting a new institution, because once you put Nigerians in the newly reoriented institution we will reorient it back to what it was because the flaw in our police is in us Nigerians.

Now, if you tell me he is going to reorient Nigerians so we have new hearts to the ones we have, I'd be more willing to believe him. He'd need to start with our education system of course, but I have not seen him say that yet, so sorry, I just can't see it.

ValarDoharis:
So you really believe subsidy is gone? Chai...don't be gullible!

Perhaps it's you who should "Chai...don't be gullible" and notice I wrote "their attempt to remove", which implies a lack of success.

TenQ:
One of their senior members on NL just told me that a Software in an AI machine is physical!

Does someone not need to create the software in your AI machine?

Do you not get something handed to you when you purchase software?

StillDtruth:
You are the very definition of a Twisted Liar!

You are the very definition of a brainless fool, and the response you deserve is below.

TenQ:
A Software in a machine is physical!?

No wonder!

Have a nice day

I guess it's hard for you to understand that you must physically write the software for it to exist instead of just dreaming it in your head, so you have a nice day too.