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greggng:
Are you talking to a child . Something that was televised for the whole world to see on cnn. In the history of America have you witness where a particular president supporters took over the national assembly ...killed police office who tried to stop them
Even attempted to kill Mike pence. He was saved by quick intervention of fbi... Anyways you can go tell naive people that it never happened not me .I am done talking

ayjay45:
Is it possible. Or guys are either straight or gay

ijebosb:
Here is a good thread if you want to understand why your "We the People" argument falls flat.
https://x.com/Mike_Podhorzer/status/1807816938589991189

ijebosb:
If that's not ur understanding, your understanding is wrong. At this point, you are arguing the definition of immunity or simply don't understood the ruling. It's the top line summation of the decision.

PDGguy posted a summation of the ruling.

PDPGuy:
10. Implications:
- The decision significantly alters the landscape of Presidential accountability and raises complex questions about the balance of power between branches of government.
- It leaves many open questions about how to categorize Presidential actions and when immunity applies, which lower courts will now have to grapple with.

PDPGuy:
The delineation between “official” and “unofficial” acts would rest with the DC District court. But as raumdeuter suggested, I would think that Judge Chutkin (of the DC District Court) would likely find that Trump, asking a Secret Service agent to assassinate a rival candidate for president, would fall under “unofficial acts”.

Obainoman6:
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Obainoman6:
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ijebosb:
So, the Supreme Court decided that the president's ability to make bold decisions as long as it's via some official act is more important than any laws that may be broken.

ijebosb:
But now the Supreme Court just bestowed immunity for official acts. So even if they are impeached and removed. As long as it's an official act they won't be prosecuted.

ijebosb:
Can I be honest, you sound as if you don't have enough understanding of this topic to even post remotely intelligently on it. This post is silly. It's clear u don't understand immunity or impeachment. Impeachment is a political process. Immunity means no one can prosecute him. I can repeat this a nother 5 times and you'll continue repeating the same lie.

Do some reading on this topic because u are spreading misinformation.

In the United States, impeachment is a remedial rather than penal process,[14][15]: 8  intended to "effectively 'maintain constitutional government' by removing individuals unfit for office";[15]: 8  persons subject to impeachment and removal remain "liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."[15]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

GenFunction:
So lawless fam

raumdeuter:
Since the rule was made today

I expect Trump to declare himself president tomorrow and Biden to announce he has won the November election since that's what they claim the scotus said

ijebosb:
It was an example.
I think you are having a hard time grasping the concept of immunity, or official acts or presidential core powers.
If they are immune, they can be impeached but not prosecuted by ANYONE, no matter who asks.

ijebosb:
Those people have won. The Court does not represent a majority of the US population.

ijebosb:
That should have been "Powers defined for the President"
Simple ex.
Say if the Constitution says a Presidential act is driving.
Now, while the President is driving, he decides to kill someone because he doesn't like the shirt they are wearing.
He is immune from Prosecution. Why?
Because he is perfuming a Constitutional defined power, driving.

ijebosb:
The founders of the US, debated this. They wrote Congressional immunity into the Constitution but did not write in Presidential immunity. Purposefully. The country was founded on the ideal that no man is above the law. We have no Kings. The Supreme Court just changed that.

You should find a constitutional lawyer you respect and read some of their opinions on this.

happney65:
But the constitution was clear on the transfer of power which Trump told his supporters to go and "Stop the steal" Isn't it? Did they not? Did Trump not try to stop it?

ijebosb:
Trump is not currently President so no.
And if Trump went and himself shot someone on Fifth ave he wouldn't have immunity.
But if he used an "official act" or a "Core Constitutional Power" to shoot someone of fifth ave, he would be immune.

ijebosb:
Dems don't want Trump shot.
THe ruling requires an understanding of Constituionally defined Presidential powers or Core power.
Then it moves on to official acts.

The court has just said the powers defined by the President in the Constitution are Immune from prosecution. Period. So, it doesn't matter why he uses them they way he does because they are immune. In fact you can't even ask the motivations. So, it follows if one of his powers is controlling the military, he could tell them to do anything and no one could question him. Anything like kill a rival. You get.

happney65:
And Yes,With this ruling Trump has just been given a free pass to stay in power because he will claim being under official acts.

ijebosb:
No he wouldn't as the parties are not the same.
At some point you are going to have to understand that.
Dems believe the shit they sell. Peace, Love, Democracy, rule of Law.
It's the reason Biden will let his son go to jail while Trump pardons everyone.

You're understanding of this ruling is off.
This is not hyperbole!!

ijebosb:
That's a bad understanding of the Constitutional Powers and Presidential Duties.
Ex. The Constitution gives the President control over the military. By this ruling the motivations of he uses it can't be questioned.
If he wants to use his war powers to drone someone. Ey. That's his right. Lol
Read the ruling.

ijebosb:
This is wrong.
And you are wrong.
Per this ruling, Trump could use an official act even with corrupt intent to kill someone and get off because it was an official act.
This is not hyperbole.

It does give Biden the same right. The difference I've been trying to get you to understand is that Dems don't believe anyone should have that right. Dems generally believe in the structures of Democracy not just Power. So, even though the Dems control the White House, they are upset over this.

ijebosb:
This is factually wrong based on Robert's own writing in the ruling. You cannot take motivation into deciding official and unofficial acts.

basilico:
You think the three dissenters would give the same ruling if Clinton, Biden or Obama was slapped with a gazillion counts

Naijayouth:
what is THEOCRACY?

basilico:
Be honest for just one time

nairavsdollars:
The judge also ordered the EFCC to pay the applicant N3million as damages for infringement of the right.

bemeruca:
The sky is falling.

ijebosb:
Budatuum has a soft/bind spot for Bemeruca's lies.