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This, in fact, better describes some of your questions!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_question

TenQ:
Most of the answers to my question is YES or NO; I doubt if there was once where you clearly stated such answers.


Except for Question 5, all the questions has answers that were YES or NO !

This is narrowness TenQ, born of one point of view.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-ended_question

We at least not the only ones.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/three-german-citizens-arrested-on-suspicion-of-spying-for-china

tollyboy5:
You dey cap bros.
If e vex you. Waka go there go open the gate Na

Like I said, jungle!

TenQ:
What is difficult with answering my questions?

I did answer your questions, TenQ. And making out I didn't is not what anyone who reads the very tangible evidence that is available in this thread would conclude.

You just did not like my answers because they were from numerous points of view, be honest!

TenQ:
Why must you answer a question I never asked you and attribute it to be the answer to my Questions : doesn't this make sense to you?

Are you suggesting that I don't understand the questions you asked me and that I answered extensively?

Or is it that you don't understand my answers.

TenQ:
Atheism is a spiritual disease: an infection that take deliverance from strong demons out of their lives.
It starts with the kind of question to EVE and conclude with "God does not Exist"

I've felt all along that this is the rub, and I am finally glad you confess.

Eve asked, will I die if I eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that Adam had told her they should not eat for on the day that she ate she would surely die, by opening her eyes to see that it was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, so she took some and ate it and gave some to her dumb believing husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

Yes, TenQ. The logical consequence of using one's heart and soul and mind to ask and knock and seek is to question the gods, the sources of all Wisdom, from all points of views imaginable.

TenQ:
TenQ set his question!
If you don't know the answer, don't ascribe the answers to the question I gvae you with your answers to your own question.

We are telling you that the answer you ascribe to your own question is from only your one point of view, and that there are other points of view, and that you can't just close your eyes and claim only your point of view is the only point of view, and that telling us to only consider a thing from your point of view is like asking us to look with your own eyes which might not even work as good as ones own eyes.

Or do you live on a planet where the blind see for those with eyes?

StillDtruth:
I dont think so.

Atheism is just the final point when a man real eyeses that God has cut him off and rejected him and is never gonna have anything to with him again.

Stop lying that you think!

Everyone should know that God does not "cut him off and rejected him and is never gonna have anything to with him again" to anybody.

TenQ:
Can Matter come out of Nothing?

Yes! See the nothing

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

TenQ:
Can Order come out of Randomness?

Yes. See the beginning of the ordering of the randomness below.

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

TenQ:
To the Atheists, YES!

Like buda. Yes!

TenQ:
I asked questions that were specific: Answers should fall in line with my Question !

But who are you? Our teacher? Our examiner? Are we to receive marks from you if we give you the specific answer that fall in your line?

And what if we have a better answer, a more nuanced and considered answer, must we abandon it and dumb down?

TenQ:
This is a simple issue.
After answering my Question, you may pose your own Question and we will answer it according to how you have formatted it.

Go back through the thread TenQ, and you will see many instances where we posed our own question how we formatted it but you refused to see it not to talk of answer any one of them, so it cannot obviously be as simple as you say it is now, can it?

TenQ:
But the n, you should understand that data in a storage device is meaningless if it is not in the expected format.

With this, you frustrate me.

We agreed, software for pc will not work in Android and Mac!

We agreed, Sign language is gibberish to computer!

And now you start your response with, "you should understand" as if I don't!

Please, TenQ, try to see the point of view of others instead of your own alone.

TenQ:
When a CD or HDD is written with 10 GB of Data, the truth of the matter is that NOTHING of a physical nature increases on the HDD.

Ergo, software lacks mass.

TenQ:
The Software is the FINAL Formatted Sequence of Binary or Hexadecimal Code that is written in the CPU or HDD.

That is what the software is to you, and from your point of view.

A person who sat down and coded every single line of the software might choose to look from a different point of view.

TenQ:
I think my question was very specific and demands that the answers be with respect to the point of view of the Machine

What you do not seem to understand is that you do not have the authority to demand what point of view I choose to respect, and that just really amuses me.

Why would I be an atheist, precisely defined as a person who refuses to only accept the point of view of the gods, now choose to worship the point of view of TenQ, to put it bluntly it I may?

Tell me. Is the person coding the software not writing the software, and is their final written code not the software too or must they too only see the machine's point of view?

triplechoice:
Yes ,it will lack it

And will it be tangible and have tangibility if I love my neighbour, and not insult those who insult me, and don't kill and don't covet control over my neighbours mind nor rob them of their point of view, my God, in Spirit and essence and everything anyone can choose to describe it, is tangible, or at least must be tangible to me because I am making my God real and tangible to my very self?

P.s. I intentionally made it gibberish, do note.

Imagine being told my infinitely massed God is not tangible because it does not have dimensions despite having the energy to create the entire universe, and it does change state with time, or at least understanding of it must.

Can you see me joke of talking to an ant?

helinues:
Very good

We now have a proactive government. Fact

What you actually have is a jungle!

A proactive government would properly investigate and gather evidence and seek a court order to shut them down. But since Nigeria does not follow its laws, we just swoop in!

What if this company contests the allegations and is found to not be guilty in court? Would Nigeria not have to compensate them for loss of earnings?

jmoore:
Was the supermarket setup to even make profit?

How many Chinese dey for Abuja compared to Nigerians?

This, alone, is enough to make one suspect they don't ban Nigerians.

Some schools in Wales, and only sometimes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh-medium_education

triplechoice:
Spirit is not intangible as you think. It depends on how it manifest, and there 're different manifestations of spirit. Spirit from a material point of view, simply means energy.

Triple, I am an atheist, yet I can agree with the bold depending on context.

Say, I were to believe and claim to worship God, but can not be bothered to love my neighbour because my neighbour does not believe what I believe or has a different point of view to mine, it could be said that my belief in God lacks spirit and is therefore intangible.

Just throwing it out there that one can worship God in tangible spirit, as by thy fruits suggest.

basilico:
You border on insane when it comes to matters abortion.
Seriously you need redemption.

You need to be sectioned in an asylum.

basilico:
I never lie. Trust me. I have checked your posts where you refer to a foetus as a thing.
What would your mom say if she read your posts on abortion?
Do you have a conscience?

Trusting you is like trusting a scammer, which only fools would do.

What would your daughters say if they read your posts here and see that you don't have a brain?

basilico:
Lordreed can't even point outba conspiracy theory Ive pushed that was effectively refuted..

Almost every post of yours is based on a qanon mules 2000 kraken conspiracy theory. And no, you will not have us waste our time pointing it to you. Because a simple search of your monicker and any combination of those words would point it out to anyone who bothers.

basilico:
Was an earlier quote from you answering me directly. I will never forget how callous, inhumane and unfeeling it sounded
Why you think I quote you every time Im talking abortion? it was precisely how you referred to a foetus as either a mass or clump of cells.

Provide the post where buda "referred to a foetus as either a mass or clump of cells" or you are basililiar!

Though, in all honesty you always have been a liar so that's not new.

LordReed:
Like he can be both things. He still was a conspiracy theorist much like you. Did you see the picture of him holding up a sign that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are working hand in hand? That's where you people's lies are going to land some people, mental illness or harmful actions.

My first thought on reading about him was to hope Basiloco does not go and burn himself.

TenQ:
I think I got tired of you at a point because i assume I was speaking from the position of knowledge.
I do programming on Microcontrollers and in those days, I did a lot of C/Cpp, Python programming.

One thing I never do is post credentials as a reason for knowledge. If I would, the relevant ones to this topic would be B.Eng Electronics and Communications, London. In my days we were 'programming' in COBOL and C and sometimes directly in machine code, so God help you if your one was in the zero's place. I would love my knowledge of philosophy and how to think and reason to hold sway here too.

When you program in C/Cpp, Python, you are "touching" it. If you want to debug your program, you will remove it from the machine and "touch" it to do so. So why would you insist we go looking for the software inside the machine despite some of us telling you what we would do? Would you tell us to go look for electricity inside the machine from the machine's point of view also and without using a multimeter?

TenQ:
I believe I kept saying that you can only look at this from the Point of View of the Computer

And we are saying that you don't impose a point of view on anyone! It's why we keep informing you that we can take the software out of the machine's point of view and place it in our own point of view so we can feel and touch and see it since we don't share senses with a machine and therefore feel and touch things differently.

The imposition of a point of view is how religion captivates it's audience. And you ought to by now know that atheists do not allow themselves to be captivated so.

Read some of my posts on the Garden of Eden. It's all about a point of view that differs to the generally accepted point of view, which you and I should perhaps discuss in its own right.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense#117003826

TenQ:
Not every tangible things are touchable (even though this is a general definition). A more precise definition would be that Tangible things are anything that has mass or dimension or energy or can change state with time.

TenQ, I agree with you that A more precise definition would be that Tangible things are anything that has mass or dimension or energy or can change state with time.

In fact, Quine, whom I will post at the end, is agreeing with you, and if I tell you a secret, my Lord and I have almost never disagreed and he agrees with you too.

LordReed:
My dear buda software is a non physical effect of physical interactions. They are like thoughts, even though it is the interaction of the brain and body that produces thoughts, thoughts themselves are not physical.

And just so it's not I'm lying, first person to find otherwise my Lord will make me pay 10k. Just quote link.

Unfortunately. There are no precise definition of words, or at least we human beings are not normally intelligent enough or know enough that the definition we give a word is more precise than any other. It's probably why there are so many dictionaries. Everyone writes their own because we do not agree on precision.

Personally? I think it is really rather absurd (gibberish, even), to claim one precisely defines any word with very complex and imprecise words like "mass or dimension or energy or can change state with time". These are words that have had so many meanings over the history of time, and that keep evolving, that precision just eludes them completely, just as that of tangible has and does.

Anyway, below is Quine. The entire article itself is revealing, and moreso the references.

In Quine’s influential Word and Object he speaks about “limning the true and ultimate structure of reality,” (1960, 221) and according to him, for an object to exist is for it to be necessarily quantified over in an idealized and regimented logical language used to truly and comprehensively describe the world. And he claims that the values of the variables of such a theory will only range over sets and physical objects, so “as far as he is concerned … only physical objects and sets really exist,” and, it must be noted, both objects and sets, even if the latter are abstract, are all regarded as ‘things’ or ‘objects’[3]

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/metaphysics-massexpress/

kkins25:
My Buda, good day to you!

I did reply to your Email oh. I assumed you'd forgotten your password or not had time to respond.

I must have missed it somehow. I am so sorry. Please if you would again. I hate being in debt.

kkins25:
@pocohantus, I hope you're doing great. could you help me confirm, do Nigeria Payoneer accounts have the "Request payment" feature activated? It's under the "Get paid" menu..

Cc. Chatinet

Why, by the way, have you not requested what I owe you?

kkins25:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFChdLN6nA?si=gRHAkMD-2uTy-z5X

Great collection of audio-Books with topnotch narrators... I can't stand the Auto-generated text to sppech..

@budaatum.

I do suppose Manly's opus magnus would need a more accessible rewrite. The below is for if you can stand the auto generated.

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-NXrCfPe_e-QETRFj/mode/1up

Guess they wouldn't be spitting on the "idol worshipping Christians" if they ban them.

But do note only the very far right think stupidly this way.

“The custom of spitting near churches or monasteries is an ancient Jewish tradition,” far-right activist Elisha Yered wrote on Monday in response to a video of Orthodox Jews spitting on Christian pilgrims.

The former spokesperson for MK Limor Son Har-Melech, of the far-right Otzma Yehudit party, said that there is an even a blessing that Jews are supposed to say when seeing a church: “Blessed is He who has patience for those who violate His will,” which Yered described as a “blessing that praises God for not immediately punishing idol worshipers for their wicked deeds.” https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-761490

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRguceI4h1Q?si=sKSv7946uo7m4yIY

TenQ:
Atheists of Nairaland have all come to a conclusion that the following are tangible realities
1. Life
2. Mathematics
3. Software Code within a machine
4. Information
5. Logic

There was even one clown who says that Grief is tangible. His evidence is that Webster definition says
/Her Grief was tangible and he seem not to know that it is a figure of speech.


Who will deliver them from this Ignorance Induced shamelessness?

Cc:
Budaatum LordReed jaephoenix triplechoice

In the context of this thread, which is spirits, those things mentioned are very tangible indeed is what you miss. Even My Lord who argued with me that tangible things must be touchable, and whom I assume might claim life is not touchable, might concede that life is tangible compared.

Go on. Ask all those atheists if spirits are tangible or not. Though now that we've got to the insulting stage, that bridge might have burned. Even as a figure of speech, I'd expect none to agree.

TenQ:
It was directed to the response of a particular fellow who arrogantly displayed his folly: and he was put in his place.

When last did you see me call you any derogatory name?

I hardly, and that is because you hardly call people by derogatory names

Then I take back my comment, and apologise. And know that despite our differences, I do appreciate our conversation, until you began assuming I had no knowledge of that which I speak just because you don't have the code to decode it. It's a call to being an authority, which I know is done by those who don't have any authority at all, and just want to bully and gaslight others into submission.

You should read it again in fact. I kept telling you that despite a computer calling a message in Hindi and sign language gibberish, that does not mean it is gibberish, but you could not see how it applies to us as individuals, that just because we are saying what the other disagrees with doesn't mean either of us are talking gibberish.

I really enjoyed our conversation. It's not the first time neither that we've done this, if you remember, and if I were to lay out my heart I'd say I love you for it. I wouldn't have spent so much time if you didn't have the brain for it, and that's rather rare here especially amongst those who just want to shove some intangible god down one's throat.

TenQ:
The post wasn't directed at you so I don't know how it is your business when a fool is called by his proper name.

The post was directed at atheists, which many would presume I am. And besides, it's not as if you haven't directly insulted me too.

Perhaps don't be so general next time.

Renas recorded a subsequent video call he received from the decision maker, which he passed to police and which has also been seen by the BBC.

The footage appears to show an individual using a laptop which has official Home Office software containing case files.

We Nigerians should be recording our corrupt officials too. Even if our law does nothing, just posting those videos here will force them to be more wary of getting punished, or at least ridiculed Gandollar style.

Truvelisback:
Good day, fellas. As a parent, what would be your reaction after seeing this?

How could I have been so stupid and irresponsible to put my food where my child can get at it!

If it was hot, nkọ?

That would be my reaction, after being gobsmacked. And it's because a sibling did exactly that and ma's reaction was brutal, so I ought to have learnt and know better.