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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 8:29pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
His teachings have nspired terrorists who went on to murder innocent people. A bomb doesn't chose what race or religion to hurt once it explodes

We have laws in UK. If you bomb people we will find you and arrest you and drag your bombing ass before a jury.

And as I have already pointed out to you but which you cover your eyes so you don't see, we drag anyone who inspires terrorists before a jury too.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 8:18pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Jihad seekers allowance. Bend yourself into a pretzel telling me what jihad is

One swan does not a summer make.

budaatum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 8:14pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Who told you that. I'll start a topic tomorrow hopefully with videos of them saying they are in it for the infidels handouts. Ever been to Somali? . I been there severally so I know what I'm saying.
Just leave that topic .

Dude, welfare in UK is little and barely enough for human progress, so its rather silly to want to come here for it unless you are starving in Somalia. And generous UK, apart from wanting to feed you in Somalia, would definitely not let you starve if you are in UK because our Christian duty precludes us from doing that and ending up in hell.

Hopefully, you will go on to have children whom we will educate not to rely on welfare for their daily bread but on the sweat they expire on their brow while seeking knowledge that they will pay to receive.

Incidentally, the image below is of Naomi Schiff. She will be on UK telly a lot this weekend presenting for Formula One. Her mother is Rwandan who integrated into Belgium, and definitely did not just rely on welfare.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 8:01pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
You want to hold me to the noble teachings.

I don't want to hold you to anything except the truth you see with your eyes. You lied and asked me to provide evidence, which I have.

You would not condemn the entirety of Christianity because of a few paedophile priests, and nor would you be arguing the Holy Bible promotes the priest acts. I should hope.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:56pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
I get you. How do migrants who purposely come to UK to live off welfare help the country ,And they are quite a number.

Migrants do not "purposely come to UK to live off welfare". UK people are not so gullible that we would allow migrants to come here and feed off the sweat of our brows. If you go and apply for visa to migrate here we will ask you to at least show us how you intend to feed and house yourself amongst lots of other things we'd ask you, and if we see you intend to live off our welfare we'd not let you in here.

We are Rule Britannia, and not Slaves so others may eat!

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:50pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Far East countries take you to the meat grinder before they grant foreigners citizenship.

Is "thou shalt not follow the multitude to do evil" missing from your God book?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:47pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Not here please, we are deviating from the section.
Post and mention me. And explain what do gooders are. Whether those who slaughter infidel are do gooders.Not here . Please.

If you want to discuss it somewhere else, go create a thread and mention me. Its your topic, so don't expect me to create a thread for you.

Do however note that buda has history of avoiding ignorant threads about which religion is better especially if created by ignorant people who think their stupid god is better than someone elses stupid god.

Most peoples' understanding of their gods are stupid as far as buda is concerned, and you are clear evidence of this well know fact.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:39pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
So what's wrong with wanting an ethnically or racially homogenous society?

Nothing is wrong with you wanting "an ethnically or racially homogenous society" if that's what you want.

I do however see quite a lot wrong in you wanting to turn an already diverse multiethnic society into "ethnically or racially homogenous society" and I hope you would too especially after you consider it might involve the removal of buda from UK and not letting black you benefit from DfiD funding and after you educate yourself about Volksgemeinschaft.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:31pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
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You might want to show me one single instance of the word Love in their holy books.Take that as a challenge and post it in another section.
A single instance of the word "Love'.

I insist on at least two.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:28pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
You saying the same thing. Europe ruling left calls conservatives far right as though it's a crime.

This is not true. And I am in fact insulted that you would adopt this ignorant level of discuss with buda considering the amount if time we've both spent here.

The Conservative Party in UK is not called far right by anyone with a brain! At worse they are near right if not centre right, and we can live with that as opposed to the Reform Party which is so far right that they fall so far off our UK scale that I predict zero seats in our House that we elect people into today.

https://www.rferl.org/a/french-far-right-win-national-rally-marine-le-pen/33017406.html

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:19pm On Jul 04, 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:18pm On Jul 04, 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:11pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Budaatum. ~~Sometimes you are reasonable~~, How you think about Macron joining forces with communists to prevent Le Penn taking over? Le Penn is a conservative.

Your "Le Penn is a conservative" is ignorant and shows a lack of knowledge that French people do not suffer from perhaps because they know their history, or as Ijebo would say, they live in France.

Educate yourself about Le Pen and perhaps you too might see how the fear of communists is far less than the fear of Le Pen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6ppjvq5jv1o

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 7:02pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
You bend over to ...

I will respond to you when you have something intelligent to say and can say it with intelligence, but while I have a person that uses their brain to reason and converse with, I don't have the time for kraken you. Sorry.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 6:58pm On Jul 04, 2024

IMAliyu2:
I say extreme, in respect to the attitudes and words of Spokespersons and popular online personalities from the UK. People like Muhammed Hijab, Ali Daawa them.

These people you mention are not spokespersons for the any significant minority, and are just loudmouths you get to hear.

On their other side are the equally obnoxious loudmouthed Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage, who decent people don't even listen to not to talk of let them speak for them, as will be shown tonight by how few votes Farage gets.

IMAliyu2:
But I'll be honest and say I'm ignorant on if the average UK Muslim, shares the same opinion with these folk or not.

They don't. Just as all Muslims in Nigeria don't share the same opinion with bokoharam, and are instead bokohalal, or they wouldn't be sending their children to school, so too are British Muslims not taliban.

IMAliyu2:
It should matter if the same tolerance and understanding you're extending to others is mutually reciprocated, or you might suffer the failing of the paradox of tolerance.

The is where UK's Christian heritage comes into play. Instead of an eye for an eye, we turn the other cheek because we know the power in the words of Jesus that we worshipped for almost like 2000 years, and are not all of a sudden going to throw the baby out with the bath water just because we are now secular.

Besides, we have laws, and we are not at all tolerant of those who break them regardless of your race or colour or religion or whatever. Basically, so long as you don't do it in the streets and scare the horses, we accept you.

IMAliyu2:
But I don't intend to sound like a right winger here, but I'm not of the opinion that all values and cultures are equal or worth learning from.

Perhaps give examples of values and cultures that are not equal or worth learning from so I know what you are talking about. But please note that your "from" is an issue here.

I think it is very worth learning about cultures that even takes twins to the bottom of the river and bashes their heads in. Not so I can emulate (from) what they do, but so I can better understand such cultures that do that and perhaps in my arrogance, educate them about my culture so they read my God book and converse on Nairaland in my language which is what I will use to promote and inculcate my culture and my values in to them.

Just the mere fact that you and I have discussed in the past and exchanged our opinions and views on cultures and values is directing our conversation here. And I bet our understanding of each others values and culture is what is contributing to and a factor that is enabling us to converse with our brains instead of with ignorance and emotions as some are doing.

Neither of us have necessarily adopted the others' culture or values in a "from" sort of way, but we at least have learnt to respect each others culture and values I think, at least from what I see so far.

IMAliyu2:
My axioms are one of freedom, fair & equal treatment to everyone. I don't have respect
for anything that violates that, and if a culture or value deprives someone of these things, I say throw it into the trash.

Neither do we here in Blighty respect anyone that deprives anyone of "freedom, fair & equal treatment". And that's because we want to be free and be treated equally regardless of our religion and race and values and culture, and so therefore treat others equally and fairly in return. We are after all a nation of Welsh and Scots and Irish and Brits and gays, all with different and diverse cultures and values that have learnt to coexist peacefully, so why should we think the addition of other cultures and values would diminish us when history shows us it grows us?

It is British culture and values that as we want others to do unto us, we first must do unto them so they may see and learn. We are so arrogant that we must first let our light so shine before others so they will see the perfection of the Father in us and bow. And we learnt that from our past ignorance when we thought we knew it all.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 6:13pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Grooming gangs come a very specific section of your society.
How many grooming blue eyed natives have been convicted?

Read the report I linked you and use your brain to comprehend it. It clearly explains the underreporting of your "blue eyed natives" grooming, (Brits are not overwhelming blue eyed, for you information), and the overreporting of non-brits which the ignorant like you often run with.

Its the same ignorance that promoted "no blacks no dogs no Irish" in the past and which we have thankfully educated ourselves out of.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 6:04pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
To Biden voters. You effing stupid
How many of you would recline on the passengers seat taking a nap with Joe Biden at the wheel for more than a mile?
And you think he is capable of running a $27 trillion dollar economy if you can't even accept a lift from him in a golf course?
Fools.

Do you believe it is not stupid to recline on the passengers seat taking a nap with dump at the wheel for a metre?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 6:01pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Trust the gov huh. Why call all those guys Asians instead of what they really are. Spare me. Liberals bleeped up and they will sugarcoat their failings to look good Tony Blair

No, Bas, not "trust the government", but trust the independent people who looked at the evidence and produced the report. And not under Tony Blair or the Labour Party, but under the even less trustworthy Tories whom we will be kicking out today, insha'Allah.

Unlike you, I do not replace verified facts with made up magakraken!

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:57pm On Jul 04, 2024

Here is an example of integrated Europe, and at the same time some in the same Europe not accepting his integration.

He would not have been elected by the majority if they or he were not integrated, and he wouldn't have been forced out if there weren't a minority who are not accepting of integration.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/03/germanys-first-africa-born-mp-to-stand-down-after-racist-abuse

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:50pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
There is a unique culture that seeks to dominate your adopted culture.

First, it is not my adopted culture. It is my born into culture.

Second, whether you outbreed the natives or not, you still can not dominate because school is expensive, and the fewer of your outbreeds you educate the lower you will be on the dominating wrung of society.

As for your "widespread grooming gangs", indigenous British born citizens groom more than any other group, and only idiots who get their Right Wing racist information from Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage believe otherwise. Here we call you ignorant. But if you wish to reduce your ignorance, read the government's independently produced report.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-characteristics-of-offending/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-characteristics-of-offending-accessible-version#a-note-on-the-role-of-our-external-reference-group

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:36pm On Jul 04, 2024

This is the sort of non-integration some want.

Instead of allowing her to integrate into the culture and values that include the freedom of thought and opinion, she is sanctioned for having her own thoughts and experiences and opinion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c978ygrg54yo

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:24pm On Jul 04, 2024

bemeruca:
that's good. it shows how you make lemonade when life gives you lemon. unlike some
you are not narrow minded i can say that

Thank you. I would be wasting my school fees if I were narrow minded, so I am going to thank my parents on your behalf.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:20pm On Jul 04, 2024

basilico:
Sadly a good number of them don't bother doing that, ....

So, they don't work or go to the integrated school or shop in the integrated market or work in an integrated workplace within an integrated workforce?

Well, just to inform you, since you may not know. Up till the age of 16, you don't have much choice whether you integrate or not since school is compulsory. And in that school you will be taught according to the integrated education curriculum which will instil British culture and values into you.

When you finish school and want to integrate yourself into work, your employer will check that you have the necessary British culture and values and work ethic that would enable you to be part of the diverse team you would be joining, so you better ensure you have sufficiently integrated or your ability to acquire your daily bread through the sweat of your brow might be limited indeed.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:10pm On Jul 04, 2024

bemeruca:
that's good. it shows how you make lemonade when life gives you lemon. unlike some
you are not narrow minded i can say that

Told you. Compliment.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:08pm On Jul 04, 2024

IMAliyu2:
The problem is that a lot of Muslim migrants in places like the UK, are not being integrated properly into the values, cultures and people of their host countries.

This is not true. To start with, UK starts by integrating its own citizens into the world, because we are not so arrogant anymore to think only UK has values and culture. Even if you go to what used to be a Christian school, you will be in class with integrating Hindus and Muslims and various other diverse people with different cultures and values, and you would be taught about various world religions in religious knowledge classes because we don't want you thinking "there is only one god" or culture and values.

IMAliyu2:
I've noticed there's a great difference in American Muslims and UK Muslims, with the UK Muslims usually being far more openly extreme.

I don't know about this. If the UK Muslim was as extreme as you seem to think, I do not think predominant white non-Muslim UK people in London would have elected a Muslim Mayor.

Muslims after all make up a mere 15% of London population, so not enough for a caliphate majority.

IMAliyu2:
Essentially European racism is the cause of the integration failure.

UK does not have an integration failure. I stopped the guy wearing the below in Lewisham Market yesterday to tell him well done I'm jealous. 4 white men joined me to tell him they admire too.

UK colonised most of the earth and have understood that even we can learn better cultures and values from others and that diversity helps us grow as a nation, so, instead of requiring that others become like us, we would rather try to understand how others are and integrate with them.

The Quran text below is what the British learnt from Muslims in India. It gives more understanding to "Man shall not live by bread alone".

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 4:45pm On Jul 04, 2024

bemeruca:
when someone says you are all over the place, they are not saying nice things about you.

When you say I am all over the place, I know its because you don't know nor understand those places I am all over, so while you think you are not saying nice things about me, I see what you say as a nice deserved compliment.

buda would be insulted if you had said I was narrow minded and only in one place.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 4:07pm On Jul 04, 2024

budaatum:
USA history of banning other cultures and traditions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Code_of_Indian_Offenses

https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/native-americans-and-freedom-religion/6th-grade/

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 4:00pm On Jul 04, 2024

bemeruca:
the people who fled were still Christians, they were not atheists. So with all the atrocities and deaths happening because of wars etc. The population was still flourishing. Today, no war but the West is dying.

They were not practicing the accepted form of Christianity that was prevalent in Europe at the time and were persecuted by the majority because of it, same as some now want to persecute those who don't practise the 'Christianity' some think is orthodox now.

Besides, the Christianity that was practised in the dawn of America where you claim the "population was still flourishing", was at the cost of some human beings who were kept in chains and worked for a whip, and some of us don't think that whipped portion of the population were flourishing, and nor were those who were met in America flourishing after europeans arrived and colonised the land.

As for your "all over the place", thank you for noticing I am not narrow minded like some. If you read some history instead of useless senseless youtube videos, your mind will broaden too.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 3:32pm On Jul 04, 2024

bemeruca:
When most embrace the imaginary God, there was desency,

No there wasn't! Go read some history please.

Europeans ran from Europe to go colonise America in order to escape the tyranny of uniformity of religion in Europe at the time. And some now seem to want to impose the same tyranny their forebears ran away from.

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel01.html

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