Christianity Etc › Re: Nigeria Must Start A New RELIGION & Export It Like They Sold Us Xtanity & Islam by budaatum: 7:06pm On Apr 29, 2024*. Modified: 8:00pm On Apr 29, 2024 |
One thing Nigerians would need to do to achieve what you suggest is that we would need to cooperate. Meanwhile, in my Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun, the Obatalans are in disagreement with the Oduduwans. So you might understand how we might not cooperate with non-Osunians when we can't cooperate amongst ourselves. Saying that however, Nigerians are reassessing the understanding of the holy books, and we are questioning the beliefs we are given. And it wouldn't be long before we understand the merits of Eve eating the forbidden fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which we will then respread around the world. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Could Serpent Talk In The Garden Of Eden? by budaatum: 6:54pm On Apr 29, 2024 |
No, snakes do not talk. Men just wrote that a snake spoke to Eve because they could not conceive that a woman could possibly have a brain with which to think and reason for herself, and they didn't women to ever think and reason for themselves and have used same programming to oppress women ever since. After all, snake means bad every where.
But womens' eyes are opening now that they are going to school to eat more fruits of trees of knowledge, and they are reasoning and thinking for themselves, so the poor men can no more enslave women to the kitchen stove.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Budaatum Confesses That Spirit Is Real! by budaatum: 2:43pm On Apr 28, 2024*. Modified: 2:45am On Apr 29, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Budaatum Confesses That Spirit Is Real! by budaatum: 3:19pm On Apr 27, 2024 |
budaatum: StillDtruth/Veecruz/dtruthspeaker, I see your spirit on Nairaland because your spirit is not invisible. In fact, the only people who would say that your spirit is not visible and not real and is intangible, are those looking at you with their naked eyes or those who want to measure the mass of your spirit on a scale or your spirit's dimensions with a ruler or those who lack the knowledge so feel they need to carve you up to get at your spirit inside a machine.
Your spirit is reflected in your words you post on Nairaland and in your conduct and how you relate with others and how you think and reason too, and it is real and it exists and it is tangible for those who open their eyes to look, and just the spirit in which you began the thread on spirits says quite a lot about your spirit.
Here is Christ teaching on spirit seeing.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Budaatum Confesses That Spirit Is Real! by budaatum: 3:08pm On Apr 27, 2024 |
StillDtruth: The record bears witness that you herein confess that spirit is real, so end of argument! Your spirit is real to buda. And I am not speaking for anyone else. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Budaatum Confesses That Spirit Is Real! by budaatum: 3:06pm On Apr 27, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Thus, we see that Budaatum affirms and confirms my definition "Spirit is the none physical and invisible part of a man" See another lie! Your spirit, Stillliar, is not invisible to buda! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Budaatum Confesses That Spirit Is Real! by budaatum: 3:05pm On Apr 27, 2024 |
StillDtruth: And Budaatum has just answered it confirming the Truth that man are truly aware of the existence of the spirit of man. Why do you lie so? How can buda possibly talk for all "man" when there are some men here telling you they are not aware of any spirits? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 9:58pm On Apr 26, 2024 |
NairaLTQ: Of course we know that the Software is REAL but the problem was you and some others decided that the Software was Tangible solely BECAUSE of the EFFECTS we observe it has on the Machine. This is not true! We did not "solely BECAUSE of the EFFECTS we observe", and you saying we did just shows you are not really hearing what you read or are just plain telling lies, because if you read what I and many wrote you will read where we said the fact that we may have sat down and wrote every line of the code and then put it in the machine is evidence that the software ought to be in the machine, and we offered methods to check, but it seems like you just want to go on the merry-go-round again by lying to yourself that we said what we never said while ignoring what was said. To wit, goodluck with that. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 9:00pm On Apr 26, 2024 |
Incidentally, Tenq's first post re this subject, was on the 16th of April and is posted below, and it was rather nonsense as was pointed out to him, and as I've now found with your silly definition of spirit as the invisible part of man as was quickly pointed out too. KnownUnknown: That sounds like nonsense, especially given the negative definition.
Defining something as non physical and invincible is basically describing nothing.
I can borrow your definition and say Tizizi is the non physical and invincible part of a woman. Does that make any kind of sense? No
Try again. StillDtruth/Veecruz/dtruthspeaker, I see your spirit on Nairaland because your spirit is not invisible. In fact, the only people who would say that your spirit is not visible and not real and is intangible, are those looking at you with their naked eyes or those who want to measure the mass of your spirit on a scale or your spirit's dimensions with a ruler or those who lack the knowledge so feel they need to carve you up to get at your spirit inside a machine. Your spirit is reflected in your words you post on Nairaland and in your conduct and how you relate with others and how you think and reason too, and it is real and it exists and it is tangible for those who open their eyes to look, and just the spirit in which you began the thread on spirits says quite a lot about your spirit. Here is Christ teaching on spirit seeing.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 8:18pm On Apr 26, 2024 |
StillDtruth: That is the point of TenQ's argument. And you peiple were supposed to keep quiet in shame but no, you people had to make it worse in your bid to extricate yourself only to end up reconfirming and stating what TenQ was impliedly saying in his poser, which is
like the rest of the world are aware of the existence of spirit in man and that your argunent in denial of you cannot see it, is most ridculous and a lie because, no one, incliding you cannot see a software and yet we all know like the rest of the world, that it exists.
And that is the point of TenQ's line of argument. TenQ, present your line of argument so you are not mischaracterized and misrepresented. Define spirit. Is spirit, the software in the machine? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 8:14pm On Apr 26, 2024 |
NairaLTQ: Hello Buda, This is TenQ I got banned replying one of your posts
And I have adopted ALL your definition as long as you apply your logic consistently. Apply what logic consistently? Though I know you know I do. We are talking about definitions, please, and have struggled over many pages on it, so I don't think we are ready for logic yet. Words, for users of them by some of us here, are fluid, and may mean different things in different contexts, which is why it is good that you define the words you contest, so asking for the sort of open ended consistency you wish for may meet exceptions, do note. NairaLTQ: Seems youve not read this verse before:
Isaiah 64:8 - But now, O Lord, You are our Father,We are the clay, and You our potter;And all of us are the work of Your hand.
I have read that verse before, Tenq. What I have not done is allow such a rubbish verse to become a part of the software that programs me such that I would stupidly equate myself with clay while some are potters and some are aspiring to be the work and even the Your Hand O Lord.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 7:18am On Apr 26, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Was this isssue not arising out of my thread Re: What Is Spirit? by Veecruz: 6:40pm On Apr 12 KnownUnknown: Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?
Clearly, all these argument is to put it to you that you like the rest of the world are aware of the existence of spirit in man and that your argunent in denial of you cannot see it, is most ridculous and a lie because, no one, incliding yo cannot see a software and yet we all know like the rest of the world, it exists.
And that is the point of TenQ's line of argument. We argued that software does exist, and not many would claim spirit, in as as much as it denotes life, does not exist in human beings, depending on definition. I wouldn't be surprised if someone even claims the spirit is even tangible, though that might stretch the word some, but software is far more tangible than spirit which is much less so, so how does one prove the existence or lack of or reality of the other? Did you intend to weigh the spirit and measure the spirit's dimensions or time it or determine if it changed in space or time, TenQ? We never got that far. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 6:51am On Apr 26, 2024 |
TenQ: It has nothing to do with my will for I defined properly my use of the word Tangible: as Realities that have mass, dimension or Energy ( almost a million times). And I think I agreed with your definition if that is what you understand. Then I gave you my definition, and I showed you how it is used by me so you too could understand. But you said no! That buda too must believe your definition as if words can't have many meanings and definitions or like you were buda's god. AND the consequence is Pain, Death and loss of control of the Earth And you now have the audacity to threaten to inflict pain on buda and kill buda and remove buda off the face of the earth, TenQ! TenQ: The Potter has the Right to make the clay ANY SHAPE He wants: don't you think so? buda is not clay, TenQ, and you are not anyone's potter, and you obviously don't have the right nor the authority as you can see from the tangible and intangible evidence that is before us all. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 6:30am On Apr 26, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Is it not because you already know that the machine operates with the software, is why you do noy ask nor intend to ask?
And that is the point i believe TenQ was making. TenQ did not make any such point, nor has TenQ claimed he did, TenQ has not made any connection to a living human being in fact, not as far as I have seen, though do please point to it if you have evidence I may have missed. It would have been interesting to read what was assumed to be the software in a human being if he'd dared. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 12:47am On Apr 26, 2024 |
TenQ: Thanks a lot, at least you were fortright in giving me your opinion.
I would have responded in full except that i noticed that people have at least TWO widely different definition for that which is Tangible. Thus, I made two posts to clarify them and you were quoted. School of thought ONE: I believe that this is where you fall on Any reality that have effects on matter are tangible
School of thought TWO: This is where I belong Any reality that have mass or dimension or have energy
I wish everyone will take a position and stick with it and the attendant consequences! You can wish all you want but the fact remains that you can't impose your wish on anyone since we all have brains inside our heads. In fact, this lesson is taught very early in the Bible where God failed to impose his wishes on Adam and Eve, so it is rather arrogantly amusing of you to be trying it here, and I can only hope you learn from the failure. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 12:34am On Apr 26, 2024 |
TenQ: And my quest was to show you that there are Existences that are Not Tangible but Real. The fact that you used software that is really in the machine just shows how little you know, especially when you insist on the "view of the machine's context", and disregard the fact that none of us intend to ask the machine if software is in it or not. And the fact that you fail to realise that the theory of tangibility and reality go way back to before Christ and before the Bible shows how little you have to show. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:15am On Apr 26, 2024 |
happney65: Breaking news: The Supreme Court appeared poised to reject Donald Trump’s sweeping claim that he is immune from prosecution on charges of trying to subvert the 2020 election, but in a way that is likely to delay his stalled election-interference trial.
Washington Post I'd love to see how they accomplish that delay. https://wapo.st/4aHjQs1
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:59pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
ijebosb: Imagine. Pecker authored all these fake headlines and more in service to Donald Trump's election. He admitted it today on the stand. He helped rig the primary by making up fake stories against Ted Cruz and Rubio, then helped in the General. Donald Trump, King of Fake News. Damning Testimony. I wonder how many of these stories found their way onto this thread. All of them. The thread was awash. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:55pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
basilico: Its very painful to realize you have been duped. Highly paid reporters could not tell Russia collusion was a hoax peddled by Clinton to FBI? While basilico could. You been duped. They knew it was a lie , They lied about it . They were an integral part of Trump take down crew. They gleefully published leaks by Robert Mueller team and by Adam Schiff. For 4 years they lied with a straight face. Then you excuse them saying the coup enabling criminals got it wrong for once. A single crime makes one a criminal despite your past.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 11:46pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 11:38pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
TenQ: It is all about context. My context was very clear from the beginning It is indeed all about context, and the context of this thread is Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible, and it was very clearly set in the beginning and before you arrived in the thread TenQ, so your request to change the context to suit yourself is emphatically tangibly denied! |
Education › Re: Evolution by budaatum: 11:32pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
Evolution was not taught in my secondary school, though I had learnt about it in primary as both were in different countries. Made secondary school very confusing in fact, and rather annoying too. budaatum: What is Evolution and how does it work? Evolution 101 provides the nuts-and-bolts on the patterns and mechanisms of evolution.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 11:10pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 11:04pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
Aemmyjah: Why then did you n LordReed not agree on what is tangible? My Lord and I do not have to agree on what is tangible, nor do Aemmyjah and I need to agree on what is tangible considering you and I have not discussed it in particular, and neither must TenQ and I agree despite discussing it at length. What is important is that my Lord and TenQ (and not you though unless you bother to read the conversation), understand what tangible means to me and that I understand what tangible means to my Lord and to TenQ in the context of a conversation about spirits. We are all presenting tangible evidence of the intangible thoughts in our heads for everyone to see so that by our fruits (tangible words and behaviours), we shall be known.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 10:48pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
TenQ: I did some elementary Biology and I think I havent forgotten everything. Only that I have never come across LIFE in a biological cell before. How can you possibly teach anyone anything to do with science if you only think you remember? Or rather, who in their right mind and with even just elementary science would let you set the context and teach them? Your elementary Biology must have been in nursery school or you weren't paying attention since life is what biology is the entire study of.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 10:28pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
TenQ: Summary:
Conclusion: 1. If we insist on using Tangible to mean ANY EXISTENCE that produces EFFECTS on matter, then we must be CONSISTENT with our definition as Gravity, Electric Field, Magnetic Field, Mathematics, Software, Logic, Information, Consciousness, Mathematics will be Tangible. But note that other than these Effects there is NO EVIDENCE for them. Whatever we have is a NOMENCLATURE that describes the cause of the Effects we observe
2. If we use Tangible to mean ANY EXISTENCE or REALITY that can be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time (whether by touch or machine other than softwares) then we must be CONSISTENT with our definition as Gravity, Electric Field, magnetic Field Software, Logic, Information, Consciousness, Mathematics will NOT be Tangible.
Do we agree to these two basic rules. We have an understanding asd a rule of Engagement No! You do not have any such agreement that there is no evidence for Gravity, Electric Field, Magnetic Field, Mathematics, Software, Logic, Information, Consciousness, Mathematics, especially if you insist on putting them on a scale to weigh them or measure the space they occupy with a ruler or time them. And neither do you have the authority to set any rules of engagement! |
Christianity Etc › Re: 101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible by budaatum: 10:12pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
Reverend: I believe the Bible to be the work of man that has been corrupted many hundreds of times over the years to fit in with the ideology of the times. Many of you choose to read and take all the Bibles writings as being true and accurate without question. I am more open minded and willing to question the facts. |
Education › Re: Books Required To Educate The Youth by budaatum: 9:27pm On Apr 25, 2024 |
kkins25: Okay.. Do you use any of these platforms: Worldremit, Remitly, Moneygram?
If so, a momo transaction should suffice. I'll send another email with my details. My deepest gratitudes. Moneygram. What's momo? |
Education › Re: Books Required To Educate The Youth by budaatum: 10:01am On Apr 24, 2024 |
kkins25: Done. Flutterware wouldn't take my card. Or rather, my bank wouldn't let me! And Gmail has bounced my email to you too! |
Travel › Re: Not All Schools In UK Speak English by budaatum: 10:00am On Apr 24, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 9:41am On Apr 24, 2024 |
FRANCISTOWN: The substance in the law means hypostasis (The reality of existence) but because your brain is too weak and your IQ is lower than that of a fish. You couldn't understand. Sir, please be aware that the person you mention is not the only person learning in your classroom, and that if you were to ease up on the insults you would need fewer words to teach me and I would learn much better. With gratitude in advance. Thank you.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by budaatum: 12:29am On Apr 23, 2024 |
TenQ: LordReed, Budaatum, triplechoice, KnownUnknown, Jaephoenix, HopefulLandlord, Everyday247, Seun, It is dishonest of you, TenQ, to drag this from where everyone said what they said so everyone can read the tangible evidence themselves instead of your intangible point of view. You didn't even provide a link! So this is going to be my last response to you! Good day. |