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benalvino3:
This is BS

I wonder how many of these bs of dump you can put up with.

greyapple, it is good that you ask. It shows your mind is opening to understand like your eyes have opened so you see.

Do keep pondering. You will understand one day.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/8566328/man-adam-before-fall#137553078

https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

Now he is bathing in prison for 11 years where he must watch his behind in case his fellow inmates try to make use of it.

truthera:
I am convinced now that you do not want to be objective because I've on several occasions pointed out ....

I have the funny feeling that you think because you you have pointed out your opinion on several occasions that it must therefore become my own opinion. That is why you can not accept that I do not agree with what you claim you have pointed out.

It's the same way you insist that a 'majority' that you have shown us no way to determine should just impose an interim government on us instead of us voting for our government for our self.

Good luck with that. And vote for Obi please.

bemeruca:
That's not remotely close to what I am saying. You make a strawman argument almost always.

People recognize patterns and data, it shapes judgments and suspicion. If people hold a certain ideology that is a problem, those people should be scrutinized. Even if it's me.

Ben, please, I am not strawmanning anything. Stop putting barriers up that blind you to my point.

You look at me and claim to "recognize patterns and data" that you have allowed to "shape your judgments and suspicions". Basically, you were looking for anyone who fit the patterns and data that already shaped your judgement and suspicion and then you saw me and feel I threaten your security.

But I get you. If you knew the history and philosophy and sociology and effect of the sus law in UK and Jim Crow in USA, and even heard claims of minority tribes like the Igbos being disenfranchised because their so called "patterns and data" shape the judgments and suspicions of ign0rant big0ts, you might think otherwise.

TV01:
I hope you note that the first sub-heading of your "research" clearly states "alleged". Nothing has been proven.

I hope you can understand that it is my own opinion that Tommy Robinson is racist and islamophobic and that you do not have to agree with me. It's like, I don't agree with your views on Islamic ideology should be of no significance to you.

P.s. I do not waste time with those who have so little regard for the views of others that they'd call it waffle. If my words have no import to you, do stop requesting them.

Seun:
When we tried to use the bot for this, it went too far and it couldn't be controlled. Tell me what you want us to do about it.

I want you to ban any one who says I should marry you!

bemeruca:
If anyone holds and ideology that is a security risk, then Visa from people with that ideology should be scrutinized.

The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity. It is not Islamophobia

I agree with the bold. The word "if" implies you know i have such an ideology, perhaps because you have evidence of me yelling "I am a security risk". In that case arrest me and Guantanamo bay my ass.

But you then say, "The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity", meaning you want to Guantanamo bay me because I adopt a ideology of Allah worship?

Sorry ben, but I can only smirk at you, and need to let you know that further responses to this your reasoning would be me trolling you because I haven't better things to do.

MONEY247:
Boko Haram jihadist, kidnappers and all sought of religious fueled criminality is thriving on sentiment of religious bigotism.

I have the feeling you don't quite understand fully yet.

I mean, just see how many times you yourself inserted religion in the above despite the fact everyone knows deep down that "boko haram jihadists kidnappers and all sought" are all just criminals.

Your thread is a start though. We must all start watching our sentiments and be vigilant of the sentiments we ourselves have. Then we must lead!

bemeruca:
If anyone holds and ideology that is a security risk, then Visa from people with that ideology should be scrutinized.

The risk is the ideology, the ideology forms and identity. It is not Islamophobia

Did you read where TV01 said "I love muslims, and like many have muslim family members"? Maybe learn from him that many of us know Muslims and have muslim family members who do not have the ideology you call a security risk and want to scrutinise for.

Think of this. A person who is prejudiced against white people says, "I don't mind the color of their skin, it is their ideology I don't like". He then passes a policy to test the ideology of white people. Is that racist or not, or colorist, to be more specific. And is it not reprehensible behaviour?

The simple difference with Islamophobia is you can't tell by color. So you ask me, and when I tell you, you start your discrimination. I mean, if I want to be sarcastic, you'd send me to Guantanamo Bay for assessment for risking security just because I worship Allah!

To be sincere with you, you really ought to look in your mirror to learn what an inquisitor is. It will be very ignorant of me who knows about it to advocate for it today. And it's even more ignorant to advocate for it knowing those I'm advocating it to know about it too. I think one might look silly.

Goosethetruth:
We all know your antecedents. We can read between the lines. Your rebellious history preceeds you. We all know your advocacy is not for democracy but for anarchy. It is either your way or no way.
Despite your surreptitious attempts to mask it,we see through you. The agenda is either an Ibo man becomes president of Nigeria OR anarchy and rebellion to achieve Biafra. That is all what you have masquraded under this sesquipedalian write up. We know your antecedents.

Had to go look it up. Appear intellectual or pretentious lol.

I want Peter Obi to be president! He is an Igbo man. And I have no reason to believe he will do "anarchy and rebellion to achieve Biafra". He wouldn't be able to anyway because the Senate and Reps and Governors. And I want APC out. They been there too long and we do need a change, and Atiku just don't tickle my fancy.

I must say however that if this fear of "anarchy and rebellion to achieve Biafra" is valid or even promoted a little by a more vocal few, then I guess......... Sadly.

But I don't believe it! So, vote for my Obi!

bemeruca:
Someone hating Islam does not mean the hate Muslims too. Islam is an ideology, a religion. Who cares about Islamophobia?

Why is there no name for people who hate Christianity? Or Hindus etc?

No it doesn't necessarily need to be that Someone hating Islam means they hate Muslims too, but if your hatred for Islam now makes you advocate for policies, like the visa denial to people who claim to be Islamic and therefore Muslims that some of you have promoted here, then I do care about your Islamophobia enough to challenge you so your policy is not adopted.

The lack of knowledge of a concept or thing does not deexist the thing nor concept.

Christianophobia or Christophobia, and Hinduphobia.

TV01:
Ideologues can never argue straight or debate honestly. You quoted part of my post and tried to slur me . Your inability to deploy canned tropes and resort to slurs in defence is what makes you uniteresting. I said this
I hate Islam. It is a blight on humanity and has, and only can lead to death and destruction.
Where is the evidence for TR being a racist or hating muslims?
TV

I think you let your emotions rule you. See how you create reasons, "can never argue straight or debate honestly. You quoted part of my post and tried to slur me", to avoid your own reasoning.

How can I possibly slur you when anyone I presumably slur you before could easily go back and read your full post? Or don't you have faith readers of this thread will do that? TV01, Do you believe those on here labelling others gay pdf are slurring those they think they slur or are they not just showing themselves for what they are? Do you think I am so stupid that I think I can slur you by doing something so obvious like that with the intent to slur you without knowing it slurs me much more?

I did not slur you. I simply quoted the part of your post that I wanted to refer to. Those who read me, since my response to you is not only to be read by you, know very well that I do that, so please stop victimising yourself.

Also, I am arguing honestly. I have no reason not to. But if you think my argument is not straight or that I debate dishonestly then simply contest my argument and debate with your own honest and straight argument and debate and trust that the dark will be conquered with light.

I love muslims, and like many have muslim family members. Islam is a blight on the world!

The adoption of Islam is what makes people muslims. It's an ideologie they adopt and it's their behaviour that you judge, I hope, and not just what they believe in their heads, which is why you can say the above without reasoning it through, I dare say.

If you hate Islam, TV01, you'd hate your Islamic family members too. But I don't think you hate Islam. You just dislike the behaviour of some who claim they are doing what they do because of Islam, I put to you.

I hate bokoharam. I do not support their kidnapping and terrorising, and I want them wiped off the face of the earth. They are not muslims and their ideology is not Islamic. I hate far right groups too, especially British ones, because of their ideology. But I still sit and drink In far right pubs since I don't particularly hate far right people, and even love sticking my black ass in their face and watch how incapable they are of being racist to me. Golly! I'm a Millwall fan. We were notorious for far rightism, lol, and I'm as left as left is, but know, I wouldn't go and watch football with bokoharam.

Do recognise, like I do, that whatever evidence one provides for you will never prove to you that TR is the equivalent of racist towards Muslims and a criminal and much worse. I dislike him only because of the ideology he promotes and what some are going on to do because of it, and because history, of which,here is some personal neighbourly history that I think it unwise not to learn from because, they are now increasingly going for Muslims just like they went for jews.

truthera:
Are you aware that all federal institutions at the national level including INEC and judiciary, relevant in your country's electoral process have been captured by Tinubu?

If true, Tinubu is the president. The majority of voting Nigerians elected him there to go and do as he pleases within the Constitution.

If you don't like it, replace him with someone else by voting for someone else at the next election.

And please consider my Peter Obi please.

TV01:
I hate Islam. Islam is not a RACE!!!

Tommy Robinson hating muslims because of what a muslim may have done to a family member if his is the equivalent of hating black people because one black person killed his family. That's ignorant and discriminatory!

If you hate Muslims because of your hatred of Islam, then you are prejudiced against Muslims and that's Islamophobia. It's the equivalent of racephobia, the hatred of people because of their race, just that your hate is because of others religion.

truthera:
A government that refuses to obey the will of the people is an undemocratic government that deserves to be dissolved....

This is not true. And I wonder where you get the idea from. Its definitely not from our Constitution nor is it in any other countries constitution as far as I know, unless by "thrown out" you mean impeached, for which a democratically elected majority is still required.

A government that does not "obey the will of the people" should be voted out by the people at the next election.

Please do a documentary about seun's spambot.

truthera:
When I say revolution, what I mean is a massive protest involving a large number of Nigerians calling for a national conference to allow for a referendum on the country's unity....

List of protest below. Tell me how many produced a desired result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_in_Nigeria

truthera:
The condition I believe will be that if the government of the day do not honor this request then it should be dissolved to allow for a caretaker interim government with the sole mandate of conducting this referendum which should take place within a year of it's existence....

So, you want to overthrow a democratic elected government that we protested for the right to vote to elect and that won the election we voted in and replace it with "a caretaker interim government"?

Sorry truthera, I cannot support your undemocracy!

Download and read The Democracy Playbook.

TV01:
Yes, there are reasons. The question is what are those reasons?

No. These are excuses and grist for the mill of grifters.

Nigeria can;t solve for open defecation because " complex one of deep history, environment, geography, climate, trade, wars and conquests, chance, the butterfly effect, and much much more. Even flora and fauna count."

The requirements to build a minimal viable society or functioning country are not difficult. They are all known, and can literally be copied or bought. You can even develop alternative systems.

Japan rebuilt all surrounding infrastructure 10 days after a major earthquake. There's a thread up in here somewhere. I'm happy to agree that Japanese people are in no way superior to Nigerians.

Id like to understand why Nigeria cannot demonstrate this - almost basic - level of civilisational wherewithal. Japan's climate is clearly less forgiving. no? Abi it's because of flower?


TV

My response might unfortunately make you think I am being Japanisist, but I am going to take the risk.

Japan has had a longer period of unity than Nigeria has had, and the national adversity they all faced further unified them to work together for the common good. Basically, the unifying glue of the Japanese is stronger than Nigeria's, so yes, "Nigeria can't solve for open defecation because complex one of deep history, environment, geography, climate, trade, wars and conquests, chance, the butterfly effect, and much much more", which, be warned I will call it bush.

And yes "Even flora and fauna count." Flowers produce food, and flower was always plenty in the Nigerian bush so any Nigerian could go by themself and take what they want but now the bush is small and the flower is less and the Nigerians are more plenty but we keep our bush ways.

Japan was the same for centuries, some resulting in the 1637 Shimabara Rebellion, 1905 Hibiya Incendiary Incident, 1918 Rice Riots, massive 1960 Anpo treaty protests, and 1960s/70s student uprisings, so we too shall one day learn.

Oh. Least I forget. The Japanese people are in many ways far superior in achievements than we Nigerians are. We have Asejire Dam. They have Fukushima.

TV01:
If you can show that Tommy Robinson has an agenda to harm or disadvantage black people or minorities in the UK, then I will agree he's a rascist.

TV01, I'm sorry to barge into this, but why should anyone show you if tommy robinson is racist when you can very easily consider the evidence yourself?

It is rather ironic that some here with no evidence will call others gay but can't be bothered to check available information about tommy and racism.

The below is my own bias. Do your research please.

DeepSight:
But the second one was unbelievable: your claim that Tommy Robinson is not racist/.

You telling me you never heard ben tell how unracist Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon Andrew McMaster Paul Harris Wayne King Stephen Lennon Tommy Robinson is?

He must correct that. Ben!

nairalanda1:
We have not had light long before tinubu came around. Power cuts have been a way of life for nigerians since 1978.

So, what does that mean.? It doesn't mean that tinubu is doing well, or that tinubu is fantastic.

It means that tinubu is starving the discos and gencos of funding by not letting them charge a cost reflective tarrif.

Experts have repeatedly said it, yet the agbado meister is ignoring them, because he wants to get elected.

Same mistake your past governments , millitary included, have made.

You cannot tell someone to sell something that costs N200 AND above to make, at N61 and below, and expect miracles. No way.

Don't mind them.

They think they can tell me how much to charge for my Electrical Tomatoes!

truthera:
Tinubu will never want to play by the book as long as 2027 election in which he will participate in is concerned..... This is I believe a revolutionary movement pushed by the masses will need to happen for a national referendum on Nigeria's unity to take place.

Explain what you mean by revolution.

What is it that the masses will be doing so we can say the masses revolted?

How will "revolutionary movement pushed by the masses" be achieved by "Nigerians lack the unity required for national elections"?

Cushion:
I will marry you, after I have married my babe Mariangeles

Why would you marry me?

Do you have a spam bot?

truthera:
As it stands, only a revolution can bring about a national referendum as Nigeria's government has gone to the dogs....

75% of registered voters in Nigeria going out to vote is a revolution!

And it is a referendum too, just not on what you'd rather it be about.

truthera, I am not a god believing person but I can tell you that all the gods around the world are working towards this revolution. The record turnout at the next USA president election will show the world the power of voting, and because we see it with our own eyes we too will learn that power and use it.

Unless we want to continue to suffer, of course.

Ebenezer2021:
this bot is malfunctioning

Seun please reprogram this one.

I am begging a richer better man to marry me!

https://x.com/BudaAtum/status/2034990170190094474?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcI1Uz0rXFE?si=KfdQESKbysYO8fHG

Kushites:
THIS MAN TALKS SO MUCH SHIIT.

SEE THE PUNK THAT WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA.

He kind of really does have a little bit of a loose mouth.

I am so very pleased to hear this!

bayelsaowei:
our upstream sector has been plagued by the following below (as a minimum), reason why Nigeria struggles with oil production decline:

1. Under investment: declining reservoir pressures for existing assets, with a few new investments to scale up production.

2. Oil theft: this is a major cause limiting Nigerias ability to meet up with our OPEC quota. Illegal (bunkers) sales of Nigerian crude, and vandalism of oil assets. We lose nothing less than 100kbpd of oil to oil theft and production losses due to asset damage.

3. JV funding: cash call issues, especially from the government, which stifles newer investments.

4. CORRUPTION 😂😂🤣🤣

And sheer wuruwuru often.