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budaatum:
Man are inferior pricks.

Hand me a knife please someone!

HenryDion:
Even when you enjoy with friends and family, you'll still suffer and die alone. It's the bitter truth called life.

TenQ:
But the studies involving the Soul exist in Philosophy!
Not everything logical or Scientific is physical or biological sciences!

TenQ:
I have no problem with using the mind and the soul synonymously.

Only that I feel that the mind is a little restrictive as it concentrates more on the intellect and less on emotion or will of a person.

DeepsightX:
I am not sure to what extent the question of souls is a matter of science at the physical level, at least not the science of today.

HenryDion:
How do you conclude I don't provide for my friends?

HenryDion:
It's alone in the top.

See me spending the Val alone, in the pool.

I really need friends here, but what if they turn me to their ATM?

If I go broke they will run.

I need real friends but they are hard to find.

In the meantime, self love.

HenryDion:
And yes, capitalism is bad.

The very cause of poverty.

Change my mind!

TenQ:
You have never seen God, yet you know/believe He is!

TenQ:
In the scientific community, we have what is called a THEORY!

A theory attempts to explain the unknown by what is known.

TenQ:
No one has be able to cut open a body and bring out the mind/soul. Meaning that until that happens, every understanding about the mind/soul will be just a THEORY!

HenryDion:
I'm grateful for where I am, and what I have. It hurts me that there are people out there who don't even have food to eat. Let's blame capitalism. Because there's enough food to feed the the entire human population.

killyaselfie:
The Brain is the source of the WILL, INTELLECT, EMOTION. These three effects amongst other are part of conciousness or mind and you don't need a soul to explain how the brain generate the effects.

TenQ:
Of cause, the "me" cannot be your brain!
The "me" in this case is the unseen you inside your body. It is the one who feels all the emotions and makes all the decisions you make.

Just as your Physical Identity is your BODY, your Soul is your Internal/Personal Identity.

TenQ:
Now, just as you feed your body with food and other nutrition for it to grow well, you also feed your soul but this time with Knowledge and Experience!

TenQ:
Perhaps you have gotten me wrong.
By personal Identity/Internal Identity, I mean
1. how you recognise yourself as you
2. how you don't confuse yourself with another person
3. The person you describe as ME, MYSELF, I
4. Your consciousness

It has nothing to do with how you want to perceive yourself. It certainly has nothing to do with ones status

TenQ:
In summary: We do not have sufficient information similar to that which we have with softwares acting on a computer: thus, we can only generalise

TenQ:
One may not be able to localise or locate exactly where the soul resides in the body because it isn't tangible. But one can say that there seems to be a strong interface between the operations of the soul and the nervous system (including the brain).

TenQ:
Just as your Physical Identity is your BODY, your Soul is your Internal/Personal Identity.

killyaselfie:
The mind itself is nothing but a product of arrangement and interaction of matter. And it doesn’t matter how much you believe otherwise..

This is what Francis Crick, codiscoverer of the structure of DNA, called “The Astonishing Hypothesis.” In Crick’s words, “You, your joys and your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your sense of personal iden­tity and free will, are in fact no more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells and their associated molecules.”

DeepSight:
Very well then. Alas we must leave it at that.

TenQ:
What is the Soul?
The Soul is the self/personal/internal IDENTITY of a person: the source of our WILL, INTELLECT and EMOTION! These three effects of the Soul is called the MIND! Someone like me sees the soul as the Software of the Body (hardware).

LordReed:
It seems you don't understand the question. The mind and the body are a singular unit which much like an autonomous vehicle is a working combination of intangible and tangible, you on the other hand believe that mind is an aspect of soul/spirit that drives the body like a human driven vehicle. My question is how can we tell which position is correct.

The facts on ground do not support the view that some spirit/soul is driving the body. They have consistent point to the fact the mind and the body are a functional unit not a duality.

DeepSight:
Perhaps you need to find a simpler way of communicating your thoughts to me because I mean it when I say I am mostly at an complete loss as to the things you say.

DeepSight:
Honestly you deeply befuddle me. I don't know what you mean here. For what it's worth, what I mean by "consistency" there is simpy cogency against known factors and our collective as well as subjective experiences of the nature of our lives and being.

DeepSight:
What I have done is simply question the consistency of the materialist worldview.

DeepSight:
I must honestly tell you that I generally have a hard time understanding you: in this instance let us be clear - there are evolutionists who are materialists and there are evolutionists who are not (in fact the Catholic Church endorses belief in evolution). So I dont understand how I have strawmanned all evolutionists: I have merely spoken about the strict materialists who evidently have no recourse to anything beyond matter in arriving at the explanation for life and consciousness/ mind.

I just dont understand you. I haven't offered any "theory of everything." What I have done is simply question the consistency of the materialist worldview.

DeepSight:
I dont know.

DeepSight:
Well that is the cup of tea of anyone who believes in a God who created this world. I dont believe in any such thing.

sandrajbru:
Your ideas are excellent! I admire your love for Nigeria very much, and your optimistic attitude and perspective of continuous progress are worth learning from.

DeepSight:
I therefore say that there is as yet no proof that life, with its unique properties (especially the property of reproduction / self replication) could have arisen spontaneously - virtually magically - from otherwise dead matter - not to speak of then evolving into minds.

kkins25:
i dont see any chains on their neck, do you?

kkins25:
because while Buda makes excuses for them saying they've been marginalised bleh bleh...

kkins25:
They we go again with more "i suffered pass you".

Banchotmods:
Ya isa support ah it.

https://www.nairaland.com/post/103148832

budaatum:
To be honest with you Ben, you are making it hard for me to observe Sunday Rules, and I'm even beginning to doubt I could possibly stick to Disstroy's all week rule!

The above shows you have not bothered to read the book because what you claim is very clearly not written in it nor is it even inferred, and anyone who implies that what you are claiming is what is in the book, is either being evil or is just plain ignorant and I can't honestly decide which is worse.

Do know that what is written in the book does apply to all teachings, and that biases in the education system does a lot of damage to those being 'taught', and while a government should rightly ensure equity in a school system, a parent must go much further and seek superior education for their offspring. That is the reason some chose to pay their child's school fees instead of sending their children to free state schools. It's to get superior education for their child, and not equity education that government schools provide!

DeepSight:
Jesus wept!