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benalvino3:
Na them sabi

You too would sabi if you bothered researching his lies.

lesmondo's mini-tournament IV hasn't ended yet, but the King George 1st CXLIX that began 6 May 25 just ended, and I'm joint 3rd.

https://m.gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=97271

Thegamingorca:
Goal: "Youngest F1 player to win a grand Prix"

Kimi Antonelli wins Chinese Grand Prix race!

He is not the youngest F1 winner however.

I wonder what reason you'd give for you spam botting my semi-defence of you, seun.

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raumdeuter:
Sports are easier to make analogies

Give women options between Medicine and Engineering both great stem careers and more women might drift towards medicine

Same thing if you give a Hispanic smart kid a choice between Law and Finance they might overwhelmingly choose one for whatever reasons

They dont have to go to each side equally because they have preferences and personal choices of what they want

"Might" is the key word here. And you might as well claim women "might" drift towards tying themselves to a stove while ignoring that's the only option given to most women.

DEI encourages you to give people the widest options possible so they can choose the one they want instead of the choice you pigeonhole them into.

The below is not because women did not choose STEM, but because STEM was not a field they were encouraged into, after centuries of actually discouraging women to earn incomes of their own.

raumdeuter:
This is some incoherent rambling

Black people too have their preferences on what they want to do

If you go to a high school with black and white kids, give them options between basketball and Fencing, most blacks probably will choose basketball

You should not be forcing them into the fencing team when they obviously dont want it

Why only give black people the options between basketball and Fencing when you can also give them other choices like astronaut and president?

Is it because you have occam razored their choices before you gave them those choices?

This is what DEI challenges. The bias that makes you give them such limited choices.

raumdeuter:
Liberals are notoriously anti common sense.

Sense that is common requires no effort to acquire, and is usually just picked up from those around one with no personal scrutiny of its validity.

I am very "anti common sense", and prefer sense you work for instead of that which is simply common and popular.

Below is the result of your sense that is common to most.

raumdeuter:
Or occam razor that women just dont like that career field and prefer something else

So no use trying to force women into a field they are not just interested in

So there is no way you can force a 50-50 outcome when your input is 90-10 without compromising standards

First, I'd like you to change women in the above to black people, so you can see how you reason. Black people are 90-10 and not 50-50 because you occam razored them?

Occam razor reasoning is what was used to create your 90-10 and force women out of fields they now thrive in. Women were defined as the rib of men, despite all evidence showing they produce the men, and ever since they've been occamed as second class citizens who do not deserve the same opportunities men are given. You so called conservatives even talk of tying women to stoves in the kitchen in this 21st Century, though I'm certain your women just laugh at you behind your back

Besides, women are not being forced into a field they are not just interested in. They are in fact taking full advantage themselves of opportunities they now have since you men are finally being taught that equally were you created both male and female. We just hope you learn before we start deciding many men are not the equal of women, and then farm you for the only thing you are good for.

raumdeuter:
What do you consider this to be when someone said before searching that my pick will be a XX XX XX

Like saying I want to pick a CEO and my pick will be a Hispanic man.

That is the way liberals view minorities they cannot make it on their own so we have to reduce the bar to accomodate them

The bigotry of low expectations

You must think liberals are anti-profit if you believe they'd pick an unqualified Hispanic man as CEO, or don't have a valid business reason why they might.

We should be concerned though if no Hispanic person is found, since we are very unlikely to choose an unqualified person to run our business. Or do you believe liberals would hire an unqualified Hispanic person as CEO of a company?

raumdeuter:
What do you call it when there are 10 women 90 men but you insist that your pick must be 50-50 men and women even if they do not make the cutoff but we have a pre detrmined quota in mind that must be fixed

Equity, and the realisation that I might have 90 men and only 10 women because I might have been biased against women, or women might not have had the opportunity men might have had to make the cutoff.

rock003:
Of course, a pot can't see its own underside. So, it's ok if yoiu can't detect how diarft yoiu are.


Can yoiu point out where I mentioned election or government in my comments to you so far? You just unconsciously point out another reason why you are diarft.

I mentioned elections and government. It's part of educating you.

https://www.nairaland.com/8632965/nigeria-overtakes-india-highest-number#138725086

raumdeuter:
It is abut picking the best when everyone is considered

Its equality of opportunities not equal outcomes

DEI is about ensuring everyone is considered and given equal opportunity. Though, that "equal opportunity" is debatable if you didn't give it early enough.

An example of that latter is Ben's sons whom he wants school to give equal opportunity in maths to, while I spend my time giving my children superior extra lessons. Our children don't have equal opportunities, and would likely not have equal outcomes. And no, I am not asking DEI to make up the difference, since it very much can not unless at the expense of my superior in maths children.

raumdeuter:
This is you not understanding as usual,
There might be few black people qualifying if they are not interested or unaware. or prefer other career paths. E.g Some women are just not intrested in Engineering regardless of how much exposure you give them to it.

You will not force them into Engineering even when they do not like it and prefer to be Doctors

Not agreeing with you is not the same as not understanding. Note.

DEI is about making people who were not aware, aware. Like making women and those hiring understand that women can be engineers. History does show that they were not even considered, and even when they accomplished in their fields, the credit went to their husbands.

Marie Curie faced intense, lifelong discrimination as a woman and a foreigner in male-dominated, early 20th-century French academia. She was rejected by the French Academy of Sciences in 1911, had her Nobel Prize-winning work attributed to her husband, and faced xenophobic, sexist media attacks labeling her a "foreign homewrecker".

dederocs:
If the bandits or kidnappers terrorists hold you, you won't say this anymore.

If victims of bandits or kidnappers terrorists hold me, I very likely would say this since I am not their kidnappers terrorists or the bandits that held them.

But apart from that, one should not let one's emotions dictate justice which should be rationally administered.

benalvino3:
If I run a country, you cannot get a visitors visa if your religion is Islam.

You can call your "if" country bemeruca, so we can call you the benalvino of bemeruca.

It would need to be a dictatorship, because no one with functioning mushy substance in their head would elect you to tell them what to think or believe.

raumdeuter:
Rice succeeded not because she was picked to satisfy a quota, rather she had that talent which was superior to most and fit Stanford. When Stanford reached out to demographics they dont normally look at, the found Rice.

That is DEI!

raumdeuter:
which means go to every zip code to find the talents look outside your regular channels to find people but ensure its not to fill a certain quota

This is DEI!

raumdeuter:
He believes a black man can only be a top neurosurgeon if you are helped with a quota, ......

This is you lying to justify your position.

No one believes "a black nan can only be a top neurosurgeon if you are helped with a quota. You however need wonder if only a disproportionate few black men qualify for neurosurgeon school since you agree black men have brains too.

We can discuss black women neurosurgeons once we've exhausted black men. DEI would not let you discriminate against me just because I've taken time out to increase the population.

raumdeuter:
Evidence are plenty people like Obama, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice etc all rose to the pinnacle of their careers by being the best and not propped up

Everyone can rise to the top when you give them the same opportunities as everyone

You seem to not be aware that DEI is about giving the same opportunities to those who have historically not been given the same opportunities, or you just don't think the history of not giving everyone the same opportunity is consequential today.

raumdeuter:
Why? Because Smart and best people come from all sex, race etc

How: By subjecting everyone to the same standard, same exam, same cutoff for everyone

The argument for DEI is that everyone is not subjected to the "same standard, same exam, same cutoff for everyone".

If you underteach or underfund some schools based on race for instance, you can't claim same standards at the exam.

Ref:
https://edtrust.org/press-room/school-districts-that-serve-students-of-color-receive-significantly-less-funding/

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/26/696794821/why-white-school-districts-have-so-much-more-money

https://www.heritage.org/education/report/the-myth-racial-disparities-public-school-funding

That last is like a minority report.

Price of eggs. But coffee!

https://wolfstreet.com/2026/03/11/food-inflation-in-america/

SirCloudControl:
Why?

So you can hear their defence and judge them accordingly. They might be so guilty their sentence is death.

samuelson06:
Their victims deserve justice too.

Yes they do. In a court of law and not just jungle justice like this person got.

budaatum:
I was at Ketu Busstop some almost 50+ years ago when someone starting yelling "ole, ole". Suddenly, some man was grabbed and begun to be beaten. I jumped in, as small as I was, telling everyone it was not true, and eventually, he was let go.

What had really happened and which no one saw was that the person who yelled "ole" was the ole, and only began shouting when his hand was caught in the pocket of the person he accused. And when he shouted ole, the members of the Ketu Busstop Pickpocket Association joined in to protect him.

That man, a teacher, paid my bus fare for that week, but we both had to avoid Ketu busstop for a while and walk to Ojota instead.

killsmith:
I share similar views.
Nigerians complain about change but sell their votes for about 2 dollars. My hatred for black people increased in this administration.

Many are part of the problem they are wailing about. They refuse to vote or sell their vote for a pittance, then come here to wail about their starvation.

My hope is we learn so more than 50% vote for the next Nigerian president and 90% for the one after.

rock003:
When a diarft person is diisgriaced, he tries to change the focus of the discussion

rock003:
Yoiu realized that yoiur comment is diarft. That's why yoiu are trying to shift focus.

I do not agree that my comment is daft.

If you refuse to go and vote to elect your leaders you will wail when bad leaders rule over you with bad policies..

Thankfully, we are a democracy. You can resit every 4 years.

esnbrutality:
Dont need your jargons .

Do you need your jargons?

raumdeuter:
Why? Because Smart and best people come from all sex, race etc

How: By subjecting everyone to the same standard, same exam, same cutoff for everyone

You want to subject everyone to the same standard now, despite evidence you never did?

Is that not like claiming everyone can equally rise to the top, after you remove the ladder (laws, ideologies, advantages) by which you rose?

esnbrutality:
As you watch from the comfort of your home, say a prayer for iran. A real prayer..awon silentmakers

I'm not a noisemaking praying person. Whatever happens to Iran and USA and Israel, happens.

Apart from the fact inflation will hit my pocket, which is a consequence of being alive today, telly. In the comfort of my home, for now.

givedemwotowoto:
If not for the outrage and planned protests, they would have used the Iran war as an excuse to keep the price at N2,000+ by now. If you like keep explaining and defending rubbish because of tribe and partisan politics.

They actually can not "keep the price at N2,000+ by now" , because at a certain point price increases will destroy sales volume, and the need for cash will make sellers reduce price.

It would be different if the sellers were a monopoly or a cabal of course, but then there's always smugglers.

Oh! And because you mention tribe. Vote for Obi!

esnbrutality:
Funny enough...you. an fly to Saudi and enter Iran by road.

Noisemaker

Why, silentmaker, when it's interesting and safe watching it on my telly in my living room?

raumdeuter:
Black people do not need quotas just give us a chance.

Why? And, how?

We got to wonder which God wants destroyed between American/Israel religions or Iranian religions.

Personally, I think this too shall pass just as all the other unfulfilled JW predictions have.