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LordReed:
LMAO! You've done nothing I didn't do to myself.

That's true, actually.

Logic007:
I'm very sorry for the late reply. I am also sorry to tell you that what you wrote is verbose bias from christian indoctrination

The simple fact is that Galileo was persecuted by the church

Copernicus's died before his book was publish and so, he faced no persecution from the church. His book was banned though.

Christianity and science/technology have never been friends

Funny then that Galileo and Copernicus were both Catholics who went to Catholic schools where their minds were developed to ask and knock and seek as Scientist Christ taught one should.

Have you heard of Giordano Bruno?

Refs:
https://www.nairaland.com/4999309/what-christians-ruled-world/2#75983492

https://www.nairaland.com/4854652/name-favorite-heretic/1#74378861

buzorcharles:
PR OLOSHO GROUPS

You are hired. Just do a good job please, as I will not pay you for shoddy work.

buzorcharles:
and OLOSHO Speaks

And poor you wails.

LordReed:
Budaatum has done nothing to me,......

Liar!

TheSourcerer preaches The Source!

UltraSphinx:
Na soo

even madness is a choice these days.
obviously, OP doesn't know that everyone seems to have an opinion on the internet these days, irrespective of the value such opinions being into the conversation.
***spits*

Not everyone is born of Aten.

My Lord and his troll, lol.

My troll is better than your troll, my Lord, because my troll is self-sufficient and does not need encouraging so I need not feed my troll my time.

hopefulLandlord:
salamanders and starfishes grow back lost limbs though

We are not salamanders and starfishes, but humans who can use our brains to design prosthetics to replace our lost limbs and even our hearts and kidneys which salamanders and starfishes can not grow back.

A God person will say we are Gods, but I guess we should settle for Image of God so as not to assume how so powerful we are.

truespeak:
is that not what it means to truly know?

So I do not see any problem here!



See how you kill yourself!

This is not a counter to my assertion that they trembled because they knew.

It rather supports it!

They Knew who it was before them thus they trembled and must tremble!

Thus I am discharged and proceed no more!

You believe, Lol. You do not seek to understand so [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4%3A13&version=KJV]you depart from buda[/url]

emonis88:
u say u r a hard working person, but what I observed is dat u got nothing doing but putting up replies to everything?

My belly is full. You can see I never wail.

I see the redpillers are out in force. I have not got time to respond to all your sour grapes so this will need to do.

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DEMZEE:
Hmm interesting

So an atheist then??

buda is buda who does not fit in boxes.

As Christ said, one must not live by bread alone or one will be malnourished.

But for current purposes, consider Atheist Christian Muslim etc etc etc, if you must define buda by the Words buda eats.

HellVictorinho:
This is unnecessary.

Trust me it very is necessary. Because if Plead believes you about buda, Plead might share belief you about our mother too, which will be very improper indeed, so buda must check.

LordReed:
I have my dear buda. I still need the mud and the pool.

Now we definitely have a challenge on our hands because I can not at the moment define or dejunkify the pool and the mud. It's like you hit my ignorance point so I must now seek and knock and ask with all my heart and soul and mind and being until an answer is found.

I have opened a thread to remind us. We must not be surprised if others populate it.

What is the mud and the pool?

LordReed:
LoL! The question was partly to draw your attention. Still hoping for guide from the holy spirit, so that the Cherubs and flaming sword can be dispelled.

Meaning
A well developed critical mind informed with eyes (senses) that see (work).

One must detheistise, as in, become as a child, to see things anew - a project we agree you have undertaken, my Lord.

truespeak:
If you truly knew what that meant, you would not say what you say!

Did you not see the Demons tremble when they saw Christ? And rather sought His permission to flee from His presence?

Meaning they saw Christ, recognised who He is further meaning they surely knew Him (believe) (not your understanding which means not sure) but Certainly knew Him which produced their trembling!

One can not "truly knew what that meant" unless one understands what that meant, is precisely the point!

The fact remains that with all their believing, they trembled. It's similar to many who claim they believe in God but lack faith in their belief. When the storms come and the rains fall and the winds blow, their belief is blown away like a house built on sand, which is why the word belief is omitted for the more powerful does in the verses below.

Build on the Rock
24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

You do because you understand the benefits of doing, whereas, you believe because you hope you are right but do not know for certain whether you are right or not.

You may understand better when you consider my favourite Parable of the Orangutan where Christ said, "Emulate the unbelieving pagan Samaritan and not the believing Priest and the Levite", both who sinned precisely because of their beliefs.

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truespeak:
The Truth is in the Past!

You folks have all been deceived into thinking believe means something you just hold on to when you are not sure!

Verily I say unto you if you knew the true meaning of be-live then you would know that it means to live on or be-living on that which know to be true and good exactly as you stand on a ground you know to be solid.

No one begins to live or will be-living on a falls( false) ground for he knows that he shall surely fall and break his neck!

The fact that it is described as something demons do is enough of a hint to show it can not exactly be the good thing you believe it to be unless the intention is to make one tremble like demons.

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Kokobilo87:
And yet those folks are at home doing about their business while the clowns still sings his name.

We are waiting for the haters to move on now. What a turn of event

Is this an alternate moniker of your's?

https://www.nairaland.com/5981755/us-politics-today/74#99923314

LordReed:
What is to be gleaned from a mix of half truths, hyperbolic tales, allegories and truths? Is that not a formula for confusion?

A [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+4%3B1-24&version=NIV]formula for confusing some[/url]. For as is written:

10 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that, “‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’” 13 Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable?

While for some, it makes ask and seek and knock with all their souls and minds and beings in order to gain an understanding.

Perhaps consider what seems like the "mix of half truths, hyperbolic tales, allegories and truths" to you, as the cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life on the east side of the Garden of Eden so the underserving may not pick of its fruit and refuse to die.

hopefulLandlord:
Christians also keep forgetting Jesus said they'd ask anything in his name and it would be done as long as they have faith even if the faith is as small as a mustard seed. Christians forget this when it comes to amputees as they'd rather give amputees indomie than ask Jesus to give them new limbs.

But it is true. The sad thing is most don't know the meaning of it, and do not even have the mind to find out.

When I ask for my breakfast in Jesus name, I am told the work must do to get the money to go to the shop to buy the good and bring it home to cook and dish out on a plate and eat it.

Hence, is Jesus the Logos, as in, the sense and ability to understand and do that which is necessary.

Perhaps if I say Jesus is the Wisdom calling aloud outside; She raises her voice in the open squares, you might make sense of it.

As for limbs. Perhaps its wiser to ask for the ability to move around instead of the limbs you lost?

HellVictorinho:
Just go ahead and accuse him of not understanding English!!!!
That's your talent.

I do know he understands English and he is definitely not lazy like you or he would not have been able to use his well developed mind to post an intelligent well thought out op like this.

FatherOfJesus:
Most religions of the world see science as a threat to their faith. Science depends on observation, data, asking questions, not assuming the answers in advance. So we test, we test again. Hypotheses that fail the tests wind up discarded. If we disprove an idea, we leave it behind. But this cannot be said about religion.

Science does not have an anti-God bias. Remember, science depends on observation. Can one observe God? No. Furthermore, the Scriptures themselves demonstrate that God works in arbitrary and sometimes contrary ways, almost as if to frustrate the attempt to find him and understand him, this is one of the measures religion take to manipulate narratives to justify their conclusion. Since science can’t find any evidence of God to study, and everything we do study appears (evidence!) to have natural causes and to be natural phenomenon, God simply cannot be a part of any hypothesis or any conclusion.

Nor is science “pro-evolution.” Evolution is “change over time.” Populations change. Science studies those changes. It can’t deny that change has happened, because that is what the evidence clearly says. It isn’t a “bias” to accept that things change, including populations of organisms. We see it in the laboratory. We see it in the fossil record. We see it in farming techniques. We see it in the genetic records. It would be a “bias” to deny it.

What your religious teachers are trying to do to you is to make you come to your conclusions first, then try to find evidence that supports it later. If you can’t find evidence that supports your conclusions, then you make stuff up, or lie about the evidence, lie about the science, lie about the scientists, lie about your own credentials. Creationists — especially the ones writing the books, collecting your money — lie. It is their livelihood. They literally make a good living by lying.

I’m someone who likes to see evidence in all ramifications without special pleading for the existence of a god. If god has to exist then there must be a testable way to measure that and that’s why I would always tilt toward atheism and believe science most of the times. If a structure that follows evidence like science makes you uncomfortable, it means there’s something wrong with your belief system and you are trying very hard to cling to it.

The picture you posted is if a person who worked, cooked, ate and was celebrating a full belly, and not a lazy hungry fuq wailing that bubu did not feed them.

truespeak:
You say this erroneously for if you knew the true meaning of be-lieve you would see that it only comes after you have asked all the reasonable questions that can be asked and after trying the answers they stood and withstood the fire, then you know you can begin to live (believe), lean, rely, stand on it.

Anything called believe, that did not go through these test is just air, false and cannot be relied for it will surely fail you in the day of adversity!

I think it is you trying to make "believe" mean something else.

Like I often say, you do not believe your mother is your mother unless you are not sure that the woman you call mother is your mother.

You do not just believe if you have asked and knocked and seeked and now know.

gfon:
everything sir/ma

Well, you still need to ask questions in order to be taught, or you are not yet ready to learn I'm afraid.

I'm going no where. When you are ready I'm here.

peteregwu:
My confidence as a chatistian is in Christ Jesus. Jesus was speaking to those without Jesus. The Jews that rejected Jesus and embrace their religion based on their own righteousness that's is not accepted by God.

Actually, when we read our Bible today, we must recognise that Jesus is speaking to us, especially in this instance, those of us who are overconfident that our self righteousness is accepted by God.

gfon:
okay have got my notebooks ready,when does the lectures start.

As soon as you start asking questions so we know what you need to learn.

gfon:
still read this statement again,does it make sense to you?

Do you think I would write it if it does not make sense to me?

Why not just be responsible and admit that it does not make sense to you? There is no shame in admitting some things are above your level of comprehension, especially if you are prepared to be taught.

Kokobilo87:
So much moving on. You talk trump more than his cult. So much obsession.

After 4 years of that orange turd, yes, I am obsessed with making fun of you one term losers!

gfon:
read the thrash you just wrote,does it make any sense to you??don't be sentimental when evaluating a issue,be logical

Can I not be however I want to be?

I mean, it's not as if you pay for my data nor am I your slave that you get to tell me how I must be, or am I?

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