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It is not I who needs to see the truth about Hell.

It is Hell who needs to see the truth about Hell.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meKhfr_CjQ0

HellVictorinho:
You never determined the truth.

Indeed I don't.

The truth determines itself. And when we see the truth with our own eyes no amount of denying it with our hearts can ever make it go away.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is our Master who taught us how to read people's hearts through conversation that's why their Pastors often tell them "don't discuss scriptural matters with JWs"
So people do have good hearts but humility to listen, learn, obey and be blessed is what most can't do!

The Word is the Master through which buda learnt to read first buda's own heart and then that others too may have hearts worth reading. I say it this way because buda's learning really did start with the Word long before buda then learnt that some call The Word Jesus Christ the Messiah and Saviour.

buda does not really care to distinguish between those who say Paul or those who say Apollo or JWs or Christians or atheist or Muslims, because the Lord God created all beings and inasmuch as I do to the very least of them all, God in heaven whom I see not must be pleased with buda, sayeth the Word

As for humility, lol. We both know buda is far to arrogant to have any because God never told buda to "listen, learn, obey and be blessed" except perhaps when buda was a child. Now that buda is grown into an adult and has put away childish things, God says that buda must "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth and be blessed".

TheSourcerer:
Morality not by choice but how my genetic profile is made me to be , formed me to be . the same way you were formed .
The word created is so transitional, who created you ? Who is gods creator ? Who created god? Who created gods creator ? You see the problem with the word created. Why should I or you be created why not formed

I can't understand this your God obsession, TheSourcerer. Are the things you see and know not sufficient enough for you to bother with?

I mean, I don't know the specific details of your own precise creation but mummy buda and daddy buda created buda one afternoon during an encounter of hot steamy sex, or so mummy buda narrates the story daddy buda being somewhat too forgetful to recall the details though mummy buda says its because his head was full of sexy steam. Nine months later, buda pops out from between mummy buda's legs and thus was buda created.

Was your own creation much different TheSourcerer, like mummy TheSourcerer and daddy TheSourcerer made you in the middle of the night or there was no steam something, because I really have hardly come across anyone created in a very different way?

buda's morality was not by buda's choice as also not was buda's creation. buda mummy and buda daddy educated morality into buda from conception instilling in buda the morals they too had learnt, like eat in moderation, say please and thank you, do not covet what is not your's, do not slap others unless you like being slapped and so on and so so including the ability to learn even morals they did not specifically teach buda like do not kill your fellow human beings and do not commit adultery etc.

But despite all these teachings, it is buda and not the genes of buda that get to decide whether buda eats in moderation or does not say please and thank you or slaps others or kills or commits adultery, and it is buda and not buda's genes that get to reap the reward or punishment of so doings though I must be honest and say I think buda and buda's genes both bear the rewards and the punishment like twofold, each with equally full doses of two lots of both sorta kinda especially where the punishments are concerned, because while the rewards are considerable in their own right, the punishments are like double doses of punishments and enough to make me want to behave morally!

TheSourcerer:
a you a slave to your Chi?

No! The whole point is that my Chi must serve me. But Chis are complex sometimes and might disobey because they often know better and what's right for you.

The art is in knowing when to be the master of the Chi and when to let the Chi be the master.

It's like Max said,

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying you're truthfully doing this? 1Corinthians 9:27

I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

TheSourcerer:
Sorcerer never read this post .

Yes you did, lol. You just can't believe your own eyes. But I'll let you know about that red because I now really want some red.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying you're doing this? 1Corinthians 9:27

Yes that. Though I often stumble human that I am.

But there's an even better verse that I can not remember but trust the Holy Ghost might send me through thee.

MaxInDHouse:
Truth is bitter in the stomach of those hearing it but sweet in the mouth of those declaring it! Revelations 10:8-11
So we are not worried when people say many things against us for bearing the truth! Matthew 5:11-12

Oh, but I still must constantly check, least I be falsely justified in my own eyes but not in God's.

TheSourcerer:
budaa I see you're free . you're actually free!!! Free from mind and subconscious . well you show the signs so I believe so , but then again the universe is infinite.

Yes, the universe is infinite. And freedom is relative.

At the moment, I happen to be imprisoned to my toilet. Yes, you read that right, my toilet. You see. I want to go to the supermarket down the road but my weak bowel is like something wants to emit and since all the pubs on the way are on lockdown I'd have nowhere for a pitstop so I'm imprisoned at home by the toilet.

Oh, it's not like I have not got food in the house, and like if I do not go to the supermarket I'd starve or anything. I got beans with oxtail and dodo and cider to wash it down, and I got rice with fish stew and vegetables soup too, and I in fact don't particularly need anything from the supermarket and really just want to go for a walk. But toilet. Prison. Free buda, lol.

I'll tell you what. I'm going to have another cup of coffee then say yes to my Chi Toilet and see if it does not say yes back or if I need a new toilet. We'll call it a test of buda's freedom, lol, and I just might grab a bottle of red wine.

MaxInDHouse:
Buda (female) i know from the way i've read her heart through her comments can't hurt a fly, i can say that anytime even though i never take her to be a Christian but she has a big and caring heart!

I will drag myself to the hottest part of hell and put chains around my neck and rocks on top of me so I cannot escape my just desserts if I am guilty as charged!

Max, just thinking of possibly being guilty is making me cry tears of guilt!

You are not God. No one cares about your prefers.

The truth must hurt though.

budaatum:
Worst than yourself who seems to spend a lot of time on Nairaland instead of joining your mother on the farms to assist her with her burden so she does less and is less worried and less wretched?

I don't think you help your mother on the farm at all, hell. If you did help your mother on the farm, you would be far too busy than to be posting rubbish on Nairaland. In fact, you now make me feel guilty for helping you waste your time here instead of on the farm helping your mother!

HellVictorinho:
Let this be the end.
Your power doesn't amaze me.

You have that power at least. You may at any time you desire, choose to stop responding to buda.

The power you do lack is that which determines if buda responds to you or not.

TheSourcerer:
Delving a bit into the bible ,

"Delving a bit into the bible" is like delving a bit into life or a plate of eba and ogbono soup with assorted meats and two odekus.

You know very well you could not have possibly eaten enough by your mere delving and any opinion you may have will be conceived from little data because you will be insufficiently drunk.

HellVictorinho:
R.I.P to your false accusations.
Let this be the last day unless you don't respect yourself.

Stop threatening buda. You are powerless.

TheSourcerer:
and yes the whim of the gods of 'our' genes yes .

Sorry, but you are going to have to speak for yourself, because for the intent and purpose of the current state of this discussion, buda pleads Igbo and states that if buda says yes and buda's Chi of buda's Genes do not say yes with buda, buda will take that disagreeing Chi of buda's Genes to the bottom of the river and bash its head in and get another Chi of buda's Genes that are more agreeable with buda.

You'd get it if you've read Things Fall Apart.

TheSourcerer:
buda where do you stand ? You know where I stand , you want me to question where I stand ? Respectful just like Socrates , but where do you stand? Its a direct question .

Trust your eyes! You can very clearly see with your eyes that buda has no stand, apart from love one another of course.

And when you see buda's standlessness, ask yourself the direct question why you stand where you stand.

TheSourcerer:
Buda We are not human. Is all I'm trying to say .we are what we don't know , we are humans because we do not know what we are . Light I believe we are , light .

You yourself said we are who (and what) we are, so why quibble over whether we are light or humans? As long as we can agree that we are not pigs or ants or tables and have the freewill to become whatever we may wish, I really do not get your point.

Hope, however, is about what we can become, so you might find it's needed, unless you are satisfied with who or what you currently are.

TheSourcerer:
I am on topic , meditation is aided through herbs , it is traditional , it is ancient and pure . so why discard so critically? Never mind , buda has his reasons .

As I said, stuff you can not imagine for longer than you've lived.

TheSourcerer:
I put it to you buda that we are who we are genetically , there is no freewill in choosing who or what we do . there really is no freewill , the fingers grow because it is given pictured detail of how it should be and move , millions of these cells make us , and know these cells work independently and dependently on each other , who is to say we have free will .?

If there is no free will then your existence must be at the whim of the Gods of your genes.

Do you agree? Explain why or why not.

Kokobilo87:
You ask if a militia can acquire an Apache helicopter and the answer was yes, then you called me intentionally being dishonest then brought an article that says yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vpzpjKVsw

Tell me what you think

Hilarious

Demilitarized!

Or do I need to ask you to shoot me with a demilitarized Apache helicopter for you to know what that means?

TheSourcerer:
buda you are aware there are certain herbs and incence when smoked/burnt , helps in transition in meditation .?

I am not interested. Stay on topic.
Drug induced meditation is delusion.

TheSourcerer:
I'm glad budaa smoked before buda judged .

Sadly, probably longer than you've lived and stuff you'd probably never smoke.

TheSourcerer:
the very best thank you . but you know theres no hope because que Sera Sera , with or without hope que Sera Sera buda

Why do you insist that your beans must be my beans? If hope is que Sera Sera for TheSourcerer must hope therefore be que Sera Sera for buda?

Do we not all have the freedom of will to determine our future and whether to be hopeful or unhopeful?

Do you think buda places buda's life in the hands of the Gods like TheSourcerer does?

TheSourcerer:
buda I smoke , kicking yourself over what you see as 'wrong /bad habit' is actually not worth beating yourself over , we are humans after all , we are perfect that way

You may smoke. But you can not possibly have smoked like buda smoked or you will get why I kick myself for smoking in my dream.

lilvicky68:
That guy needs mental,physical,spiritual and all round help..

But he unfortunately thinks he is very well.

TheSourcerer:
How often do you meditate ? Budda

Before I write a post on Nairaland I have to meditate on it to ensure my words express accurately the contents of my mind.

Every single moment of my life apart from when I sleep I meditate to ensure I'm not deluding myself.

Every single moment that I sleep and dream a dream I meditate because I'm constantly trying to bring the billions of Naira in my dreams into my non-dream life!

Just the other day I smoked a cigarette in my dreams and was kicking myself for being weak.

Short answer. [url==https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazen?wprov=sfla1]buda zazen[/url]!

TheSourcerer:
that explains the difference , ever hopeful ? Why ? We would end up in space 3 million years from now or less , I could be in Venus and you Galaxies away , so the essence of hope I really don't understand or comprehend that emotion or instinct .hope you are having a good day though?

"Space 3 million years from now or less be in Venus and you Galaxies"? What the fuq! Are you trying to depress yourself or something?

buda woke up at exactly 6:39am. The time is now 16:18GMT and buda has only had one cup of coffee all day, but buda is having a very good day thank you very much, and buda is hopeful that buda will not starve to death today nor tomorrow nor the day after, and that is hope enough for buda.

You see, I can understand how you don't understand or comprehend the essence of hope, but what sadly amuses me is how you don't even attempt to understand the essence of hope and just discard it yet hope I am having a good day.

Are you having a good day, TheSourcerer? I very much hope you are.

HellVictorinho:
You are still the one that doesn't understand me.
Getting imprisoned is different from being made ineligible to contest XYZ for life!!!!!!!!!!

Forget joing parties or being arrested. Go help mother on the farm!

HellVictorinho:
Another accusation.
How did I never assist her in the farm
Your so-called love is nothing but a tendency to make false accusations.
You accuse me of not understanding bla bla bla.
Then you accuse me of not being helpful.
You are one of the worst people I have ever seen.

Worst than yourself who seems to spend a lot of time on Nairaland instead of joining your mother on the farms to assist her with her burden so she does less and is less worried and less wretched?

I don't think you help your mother on the farm at all, hell. If you did help your mother on the farm, you would be far too busy than to be posting rubbish on Nairaland. In fact, you now make me feel guilty for helping you waste your time here instead of on the farm helping your mother!

Please go through the thread. You'd find it was he who dragged it to 16 pages, and he will wilfully waste your time dragging it through another 16, for that is his way.

triplechoice:
The op is about what has happened already and not what is yet to happen. You're wholely focused on the later to downplay the former.

Why can't you focus on the main thing? Can't you see that you're crying over a milk that is spilt already?

Modify. Where is the evil in the Union in you're condemning?
do you have anything to prove that any of them don't love each other?
What gives you the certainty that the child would turn out not to know God?
and how are you sure the unbeliever spouse don't get converted tomorrow?
has the Bible condemned couples who find themselves in such a situation?

Kokobilo87:
Civilians can own tanks, fighter jets and attack helicopters. Some civilians in the US own those machines.

Are you intentionally being dishonest on purpose or do you just not understand the meaning of demilitarized?

I repeat! Read through the thread to see the forest in your own eyes!

shadeyinka:
[s]Ask yourself this question:
Why should an atheist consider fornication as immoral between two consenting adult who practice safe sex? Why?[/s]